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Oct 12 Wed 2022

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101UL Lafayette+7½
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109Temple+25
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113Navy+13
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115UTSA-33
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116Florida International+1 Markets+33
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127Penn State+7
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142Akron+1 Markets+13½
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151Minnesota-3½
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153Miami Ohio-6½
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154Bowling Green+1 Markets+6½
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157Old Dominion+10½
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158Coastal Carolina+1 Markets-10½
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179Auburn+15½
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180Mississippi+1 Markets-15½
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183Kansas+7
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184Oklahoma+1 Markets-7
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187Iowa State+14
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188Texas+1 Markets-14
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125Miami Florida-7½
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126Virginia Tech+1 Markets+7½
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119Buffalo-16
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120Massachusetts+1 Markets+16
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139Connecticut+9
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140Ball State+1 Markets-9
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167California-14½
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168Colorado+1 Markets+14½
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117Kent State+8
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118Toledo+1 Markets-8
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121Alabama-7
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122Tennessee+1 Markets+7
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123Vanderbilt+38
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124Georgia+1 Markets-38
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135Maryland-10½
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136Indiana+1 Markets+10½
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137NC State+5
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138Syracuse+1 Markets-5
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155Northern Illinois+2½
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156Eastern Michigan+1 Markets-2½
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163Arkansas+3
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164BYU+1 Markets-3
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177Texas State+16
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178Troy+1 Markets-16
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185Oklahoma State+3½
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186TCU+1 Markets-3½
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189Ohio+2
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190Western Michigan+1 Markets-2
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193Western Kentucky-7
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194Middle Tennessee State+1 Markets+7
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195Charlotte+23½
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196UAB+1 Markets-23½
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149Tulane-10½
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150South Florida+1 Markets+10½
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159James Madison-10½
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160Georgia Southern+1 Markets+10½
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191Wisconsin-7
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192Michigan State+1 Markets+7
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197Louisiana Tech+6
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198North Texas+1 Markets-6
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173Arizona+15
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174Washington+1 Markets-15
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199Rice+5
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200Florida Atlantic+1 Markets-5
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133LSU+2½
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134Florida+1 Markets-2½
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161Arkansas State+3½
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162Southern Miss+1 Markets-3½
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181UL Monroe+17½
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182South Alabama+1 Markets-17½
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203Utah State-9
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204Colorado State+1 Markets+9
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129Mississippi State-6½
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130Kentucky+1 Markets+6½
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143Nebraska+11½
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144Purdue+1 Markets-11½
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145Clemson-4½
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146Florida State+1 Markets+4½
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147Memphis+4½
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148East Carolina+1 Markets-4½
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205Stanford+14½
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206Notre Dame+1 Markets-14½
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131North Carolina-6
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132Duke+1 Markets+6
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165New Mexico-6
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166New Mexico State+1 Markets+6
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169USC+3
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170Utah+1 Markets-3
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171Washington State+3½
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172Oregon State+1 Markets-3½
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207Air Force-9½
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208UNLV+1 Markets+9½
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175San Jose State-7
-105		O 49½
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176Fresno State+1 Markets+7
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201Nevada-4½
-110		O 48½
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202Hawaii+1 Markets+4½
-110		U 48½
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gonna be a few fun games this week. other than the SC/Utah game, the one I'm most looking forward to watching is Okie Lite/TCU.
 
UConn, y'all? Live dog...Ball State went 0-for-13 on third down, gained only 4.5 yards per pass attempt and 2.9 yards per rush attempt, and was even on turnovers in a 17-16 win over Central Michigan.
 
No one has mentioned it, so i'll give it a shot. Weird spread alert. Circa opened it -2.

I've got Okla St @ TCU. OkSt is 2 pts better on a neutral, pick'em with TCU at Home. The spreads I just pulled are -3.5/-4.

What am I missing here?
 
Clemson -4 really shocked me. That’s my biggest bet in a month.

Also surprised by Nebraska getting 11, NC State getting 5, Iowa State getting 14, Illinois getting 3.5, and Wisconsin favored by just 5.5. I need to look more closely before pulling the trigger on those.
 
Iowa St's offense is really bad. They're lucky to score 14 pts game against any team with a defensive pulse. Against Baylor they scored 10 pts late in the 4th, down 31-14. Ohio has the 118th def. Idk who SEMU is. I'm going out on a limb and saying Texas is the best offense they played after playing multiple teams with questionable QB's or Adrian Martinez.

I do have at Texas -11 though. Mysteries of life.
 
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M.W. said:
Clemson -4 really shocked me. That’s my biggest bet in a month.

Also surprised by Nebraska getting 11, NC State getting 5, Iowa State getting 14, Illinois getting 3.5, and Wisconsin favored by just 5.5. I need to look more closely before pulling the trigger on those.
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State I assume is due to the Leary injury as even though x ray was negative he might not play against Cuse.

I took a juiced 14 with the huskers (line was 12.5) as I like what Joseph has done in terms of emphasizing physicality and uglying up the games a bit as that should keep them in pretty much every game the rest of the way.
 
Thanks. I was out with my wife last night and missed the Clemson and NC State games.
 
M.W. said:
Clemson -4 really shocked me. That’s my biggest bet in a month.

Also surprised by Nebraska getting 11, NC State getting 5, Iowa State getting 14, Illinois getting 3.5, and Wisconsin favored by just 5.5. I need to look more closely before pulling the trigger on those.
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Nc state qb is hurt. Their backup isn’t capable of throwing a forward pass.

With ya on Neb. Worst case, that’s a backdoor waiting to be hit
 
Yeah, the NCSU backup came in for 5 series, but one was the final series that they took knees to end the game, so really only 4 series. He had 0 completions on 1 pass attempt. On one series NCSU got the ball on the FSU 10 or 15 yard line because the FSU punter punted the ball past the line of scrimmage. NCSU proceeded to lose about 25 yards and had to kick a 50+ yard FG.
 
Chris Fallica

Saturday is the 2nd time in CFB history there are three matchups of teams 5-0 or better on the same day - 5-0 Penn State at 6-0 Michigan, 6-0 Alabama at 5-0 Tennessee and 5-0 Oklahoma State at 5-0 TCU...

The other instance was October 16, 1993 when 1 Florida State beat 15 Virginia 40-14, 6 Nebraska beat NR Kansas State 45-28 and 19 Auburn beat 4 Florida 38-35.
 
Big 12 Defensive scoring efficiency rankings YTD Top 4 are top 25 nationally, the rest are outside the top 50:
Texas Iowa State Baylor Kansas State TCU Oklahoma Oklahoma State Kansas Texas Tech West Virginia
 
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M.W. said:
Clemson -4 really shocked me. That’s my biggest bet in a month.

Also surprised by Nebraska getting 11, NC State getting 5, Iowa State getting 14, Illinois getting 3.5, and Wisconsin favored by just 5.5. I need to look more closely before pulling the trigger on those.
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Now tigers down to -3.5. Im huge fan of what going on at fsu but the Mfers couldn’t beat ncst in a game they should have won. Inexplicably couldn’t score in the middle 2 qrtrs against wake suspect d. I don’t see any chance in hell they beating clemson! DJ has been playing so much better and noles defense isn’t all that strong and if they struggled scoring for large portions against wake and last week vs ncst they damn sure gonna struggle with clemson d!
 
Clemson is getting back at least 2, if not 3 starters on defense (Bresee-DT, Mickens-safety, Jones-corner) and a few 2nd string safeties (Greene and venables). This will the the healthiest the defense has been all season. I am a homer no doubt and this line is fishy as hell but I don’t see how Clemson doesn’t cover easily.

I realize I just mushed it, but oh well.
 
Situationally, I told myself Saturday night that I would be on Minnesota at anything under 3 coming off a bye and (apparently) getting Mo back. Combine that with Illinois coming off back-to-back physical games with Wisconsin, and especially last week with Iowa, and the somewhat unknown status of DeVito after getting banged up Saturday, and I liked the play. It opened at -3.5, so it was close, but I didn’t have the stomach. It didn’t take long to climb, which did surprise me a bit. I think Illinois -7 (if it gets there) is a “safe” pick, but I won’t play it.

The best play for this game IMO is the U39. It opened at 36 and went to 38 by last night, and I just noticed it has moved north another point since, so I might hold off to see if it climbs some more. With or without a healthy Mo, Minnesota is going to (try to) run the ball. Illinois run defense is solid, and they’re physical. Minnesota isn’t going to push them around. Fat Bert loves to run the ball, too, and DeVito likely won’t be 100%, so I expect they’ll try to pound the ball. Both defenses have a good 3rd down efficiency, and I trust both will force FG’s. I wouldn’t be shocked to see 17-13-type game, close throughout.

If I decide to play a BIG spread this weekend it’ll probably be Wisconsin at anything under 10. My only concern is I don’t like it situationally with the back-to-back road games and back-to-back home games. However, I feel like that win at NW was a huge weight lifted, and I also believe Leonard will get this team playing back up to its potential. Sparty has really struggled since playing at Washington, and I don’t know what they’re going to be able to do to turn it around. Yes, they’ve not had an easy schedule to start B1G play, but they haven’t performed well on either side in any of those games. There appears to be a lot of issues there from top to bottom. Considering the predicted weather and the probability that Wisconsin will shorten the game with the run game, the U48.5 might not be a terrible idea.

That’s my $0.02. BOL fellas.
 
counselor said:
Situationally, I told myself Saturday night that I would be on Minnesota at anything under 3 coming off a bye and (apparently) getting Mo back. Combine that with Illinois coming off back-to-back physical games with Wisconsin, and especially last week with Iowa, and the somewhat unknown status of DeVito after getting banged up Saturday, and I liked the play. It opened at -3.5, so it was close, but I didn’t have the stomach. It didn’t take long to climb, which did surprise me a bit. I think Illinois -7 (if it gets there) is a “safe” pick, but I won’t play it.

The best play for this game IMO is the U39. It opened at 36 and went to 38 by last night, and I just noticed it has moved north another point since, so I might hold off to see if it climbs some more. With or without a healthy Mo, Minnesota is going to (try to) run the ball. Illinois run defense is solid, and they’re physical. Minnesota isn’t going to push them around. Fat Bert loves to run the ball, too, and DeVito likely won’t be 100%, so I expect they’ll try to pound the ball. Both defenses have a good 3rd down efficiency, and I trust both will force FG’s. I wouldn’t be shocked to see 17-13-type game, close throughout.

If I decide to play a BIG spread this weekend it’ll probably be Wisconsin at anything under 10. My only concern is I don’t like it situationally with the back-to-back road games and back-to-back home games. However, I feel like that win at NW was a huge weight lifted, and I also believe Leonard will get this team playing back up to its potential. Sparty has really struggled since playing at Washington, and I don’t know what they’re going to be able to do to turn it around. Yes, they’ve not had an easy schedule to start B1G play, but they haven’t performed well on either side in any of those games. There appears to be a lot of issues there from top to bottom. Considering the predicted weather and the probability that Wisconsin will shorten the game with the run game, the U48.5 might not be a terrible idea.

That’s my $0.02. BOL fellas.
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I think goohers roll Illini, unfortunately I can’t bet the Illinios team games.
 
I can’t wait for the prop numbers to come out. I did a ton of work this week and feel really good about where my numbers are for guys in about 10-12 games! Just have to wait and see which ones they fuck up!!
 
I’ve already said it but can’t say enough how crazy the clemson line is, I been noles biggest fan but they struggled terribly in 2nd and 3rd qrtr against a garbage wake d. Only put up 17 in a game against ncst they should have won. They are gonna have a nightmare of a time scoring on tigers and DJ gomna have a field day with qb runs in this one!
 
Really hope the weather not bad at wvu on Thursday. Lot of prop opportunity there if passing conditions are solid.
 
2daBank said:
I’ve already said it but can’t say enough how crazy the clemson line is, I been noles biggest fan but they struggled terribly in 2nd and 3rd qrtr against a garbage wake d. Only put up 17 in a game against ncst they should have won. They are gonna have a nightmare of a time scoring on tigers and DJ gomna have a field day with qb runs in this one!
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If Clemson is able to get pressure w/out blitzing, this game is already done...
 
Does @JROCK1966 or anyone else know Levis status this weekend? I been all over messy st all year, lost the lsu game, won most the others, but if Levis can go I think uk upsets them. As much I like messy st d you can run on them, Rodriquez gonna go Ham, he just needs Levis to keep drives moving so they can continue pounding them, Levis plays I like the +6 and ml,
 
Kansas is getting +9? Lmao, I know Daniels out but the other kid looks pretty good. They gonna pass and Neal will run all over lousy Sooners.
 
Everyone laughs at me cause I keep talking bout tcu d every week, I know they give up points but I think their secondary pretty good and makes plays when they have to. I def think their secondary better than okie lite. What everyone think of that game?
 
2daBank said:
Kansas is getting +9? Lmao, I know Daniels out but the other kid looks pretty good. They gonna pass and Neal will run all over lousy Sooners.
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he's got talent, but he's also super raw. watched about half that game last week. one, TCU was lucky AF to win (and cover for most). two, he missed so many open receivers. didn't see them over the middle wide open. and there was one easy toss to a RB out of the backfield that he overthrew. he was upset, knowing he blew an easy FD. Just saying he's mistake prone being so raw.

i'm leaning Kansas too, but trying to see if Gabriel is playing. if he is, i may just play TTs or the over.
 
Yanks27Sox9 said:
he's got talent, but he's also super raw. watched about half that game last week. one, TCU was lucky AF to win (and cover for most). two, he missed so many open receivers. didn't see them over the middle wide open. and there was one easy toss to a RB out of the backfield that he overthrew. he was upset, knowing he blew an easy FD. Just saying he's mistake prone being so raw.

i'm leaning Kansas too, but trying to see if Gabriel is playing. if he is, i may just play TTs or the over.
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I didn’t get to catch last week so I’ll take your word for it but in previous weeks while they have given up a bunch of points tcu secondary has also held pretty strong offenses down at times, they made things really tough on a excellent smu offense for a couple qrtrs before getting lit up in 4th. Actually one the reasons I been on the tcu bandwagon cause I think the d gets no respect cause of Dykes no defense rep, he inherited some talented guys in secondary tho and think they do a solid job confusing qbs, I think that a tough d for kid making 1st go of it. Sooners on other hand have showed freaking nothing on d. Ku d obviously leaves a ton to be desired but I don’t hold tcu against them much and thought they had shown better in last few before that game, they were way better vs duke than I thought they be. Even if it a total shootout I just can’t imagine Sooners can build and keep a dd lead, I assume that be the most popular dog of weekend tho so I might look more into Neal rush props.
 
2daBank said:
I think goohers roll Illini, unfortunately I can’t bet the Illinios team games.
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I hope so, but I’m not confident as you. One “intangible”, at least in my experience, is Bielma always has his teams ready to play Minnesota. He hates the Gophers, and he isn’t shy about it. I believe his teams feed off that when they play. Again, I hope you’re right.
 
counselor said:
I hope so, but I’m not confident as you. One “intangible”, at least in my experience, is Bielma always has his teams ready to play Minnesota. He hates the Gophers, and he isn’t shy about it. I believe his teams feed off that when they play. Again, I hope you’re right.
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The goofy thing it don’t matter to me since I can’t bet it: I would pound minny tho.
 
I really don’t follow Illini real close tho since I can’t bet their games it waste of time for me so I could be wrong! Lol
 
2daBank said:
The goofy thing it don’t matter to me since I can’t bet it: I would pound minny tho.
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Man you need to get a VPN that recognizes you as in Iowa. You could bet at home and bet on games in Illinois.

Not that I know how to do it but someone does and I don't think it's that tough, I think you're close enough to get one there instead of Illinois.
 
KJ said:
Man you need to get a VPN that recognizes you as in Iowa. You could bet at home and bet on games in Illinois.

Not that I know how to do it but someone does and I don't think it's that tough, I think you're close enough to get one there instead of Illinois.
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I just don’t know shit bout any that shit. Plus it kill me if I did then they found out and I get totally fucjed. I really like cash so even tho some drawbacks it works for me.
 
2daBank said:
I just don’t know shit bout any that shit. Plus it kill me if I did then they found out and I get totally fucjed. I really like cash so even tho some drawbacks it works for me.
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All it would show is that you placed your wager in Iowa. I mean when I was back there I was able to get CFB props that weekend, would still be able to go to the casino here and cash it.
 
2daBank said:
I didn’t get to catch last week so I’ll take your word for it but in previous weeks while they have given up a bunch of points tcu secondary has also held pretty strong offenses down at times, they made things really tough on a excellent smu offense for a couple qrtrs before getting lit up in 4th. Actually one the reasons I been on the tcu bandwagon cause I think the d gets no respect cause of Dykes no defense rep, he inherited some talented guys in secondary tho and think they do a solid job confusing qbs, I think that a tough d for kid making 1st go of it. Sooners on other hand have showed freaking nothing on d. Ku d obviously leaves a ton to be desired but I don’t hold tcu against them much and thought they had shown better in last few before that game, they were way better vs duke than I thought they be. Even if it a total shootout I just can’t imagine Sooners can build and keep a dd lead, I assume that be the most popular dog of weekend tho so I might look more into Neal rush props.
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the kid is good, and has tons of talent. he just missed a couple easy throws, and missed seeing wide open receivers in the 4th. the broadcast showed the replays pointing them out. he was nervous, which is to be expected. probably had some tunnel vision too on those plays.

on the flip side, he competed and had kansas in position to at least tie the game up. even with him playing instead of a hurt daniels, it still felt like kansas and tcu were equals.

i'm waiting to see if gabriel is playing. but what's the sooner pass rush like? i haven't seen much of them at all. if the kid is pressured, and on the road, i'd expect more nervous mistakes. if he's got time, and avoids multiple turnovers, he should be successful.
 
2daBank said:
Does @JROCK1966 or anyone else know Levis status this weekend? I been all over messy st all year, lost the lsu game, won most the others, but if Levis can go I think uk upsets them. As much I like messy st d you can run on them, Rodriquez gonna go Ham, he just needs Levis to keep drives moving so they can continue pounding them, Levis plays I like the +6 and ml,
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He should be playing last I read….
 
Yanks27Sox9 said:
the kid is good, and has tons of talent. he just missed a couple easy throws, and missed seeing wide open receivers in the 4th. the broadcast showed the replays pointing them out. he was nervous, which is to be expected. probably had some tunnel vision too on those plays.

on the flip side, he competed and had kansas in position to at least tie the game up. even with him playing instead of a hurt daniels, it still felt like kansas and tcu were equals.

i'm waiting to see if gabriel is playing. but what's the sooner pass rush like? i haven't seen much of them at all. if the kid is pressured, and on the road, i'd expect more nervous mistakes. if he's got time, and avoids multiple turnovers, he should be successful.
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I don’t think Sooners pass rush been anything special, they 48th in the country in sack rate.

Last I read Gabriel gonna play.
 
2daBank said:
I don’t think Sooners pass rush been anything special, they 48th in the country in sack rate.

Last I read Gabriel gonna play.
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X factor for me is pretty simple. How does a team like that that was rolling straight off the doormat pick up the pieces after their first loss then the QB news? I can't buy that this game comes down to x and o type stuff. That's why how this coach handles the disappointment of the last week after they'd been on cloud nine.
 
KJ said:
X factor for me is pretty simple. How does a team like that that was rolling straight off the doormat pick up the pieces after their first loss then the QB news? I can't buy that this game comes down to x and o type stuff. That's why how this coach handles the disappointment of the last week after they'd been on cloud nine.
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I think I’m way more confident he handles it and gets his team back up way better than Venables did! I think ku hit a home run with this guy and fully expect we get another A effort from them, I dunno if that evough but if Sooners continue playing like dogs it should be!
 
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