Week 2 discussion

[s--k]

Some things that I thought were noteworthy.

WKU at Army should be interesting given the offense WKU is running vs what Army does. Army -4/54.5

I think Ohio State had been hovering in the 11/11.5 neighborhood, but now seeing 14 after Oregon struggled with Fresno and Thibodeaux's injury.

Pitt short fav at Tennessee (2.5)

East Carolina FAVORED home vs South Carolina (2.5)

NIU short home dog vs Wyoming (4)

Rutgers only -1 at Syracuse

Back to back weeks of New Mexico being a 3 score favorite!

Air Force -6.5 at Navy

Iowa State down to 3.5 pt favorite

South Bama a DD road fav! (-15 at BG)

After an utterly embarrassing opener, Houston -9.5 at Rice

ACC favored at SEC (NC St -2.5 at Miss ST)

Michigan jumps up to a 5 pt favorite!

MWC favored over SEC! (ColoSt -5 vs Vandy)

Arizona actually a 1 pt fav of San Diego State

Oregon State DD fav (-11 vs Hawaii)

Lots of interesting things there.

Beware of overreactions

 

[Inspekdah]

I think Tenny is awful and BG is even worse than I thought. It’s why I played Tenny but Joe Milton is the worst QB in the nation, still. That means Pitt is a monster and fading BG is in the cards, too.

 

[Inspekdah]

I think Tenny is awful and BG is even worse than I thought. It’s why I played Tenny but Joe Milton is the worst QB in the nation, still. That means Pitt is a monster and fading BG is in the cards, too.

Tenny won’t rush for 350 yards vs Pitt and BG won’t be able to slow SoAl

 

[KJ]

Tenny won’t rush for 350 yards vs Pitt and BG won’t be able to slow SoAl

Tenny will still play more up tempo than 95% of the teams in the NCAA, thus over for me. Both teams should contribute plenty

 

[carolinablue]

I am probably playing the overreaction for sure with Michigan but man after watching both their game and the huskies game, I will take my chances with the -5.

 

[carolinablue]

Same goes for playing against Tennessee as I probably would have taken pitt up to 6 in that one

 

[VirginiaCavs]

Sep 10 Fri 2021

6:30 PM
301	Kansas	+27½ -115		O 53 -110
302	Coastal Carolina	-27½ -105		U 53 -110

8:30 PM
303	UTEP	+27 -110		O 55½ -110
304	Boise State	-27 -110		U 55½ -110

Sep 11 Sat 2021

10:00 AM
305	Illinois	+11 -110		O 54½ -110
306	Virginia	-11 -110		U 54½ -110

10:30 AM
307	Western Kentucky	+5½ -110		O 54½ -105
308	Army	-5½ -110		U 54½ -115

11:00 AM
309	Oregon	+14½ -110		O 63½ -110
310	Ohio State	-14½ -110		U 63½ -110

11:00 AM
315	Pittsburgh	-2½ -110		O 53 -115
316	Tennessee	+2½ -110		U 53 -105

11:00 AM
317	South Carolina	+2 -110		O 55 -110
318	East Carolina	-2 -110		U 55 -110

11:00 AM
321	Miami Ohio	+21 -110		O 56 -105
322	Minnesota	-21 -110		U 56 -115

11:00 AM
323	Tulsa	+12½ -110		O 51 -110
324	Oklahoma State	-12½ -110		U 51 -110

12:00 PM
313	Florida	-29½ -110		O 56½ -110
314	South Florida	+29½ -110		U 56½ -110

12:30 PM
325	Wyoming	-5½ -115		O 46 -110
326	Northern Illinois	+5½ -105		U 46 -110

1:00 PM
327	Rutgers	-2 -110		O 52 -110
328	Syracuse	+2 -110		U 52 -110

1:00 PM
329	Middle Tennessee State	+20 -115		O 54½ -115
330	Virginia Tech	-20 -105		U 54½ -105

1:30 PM
333	Toledo	+18½ -110		O 52½ -110
334	Notre Dame	-18½ -110		U 52½ -110

2:00 PM
335	Purdue	-33½ -110		O 56½ -110
336	Connecticut	+33½ -110		U 56½ -110

2:30 PM
311	Boston College	-37½ -110		O 59 -110
312	Massachusetts	+37½ -110		U 59 -110

2:30 PM
319	Georgia Southern	+6½ -110		O 48 -110
320	Florida Atlantic	-6½ -110		U 48 -110

2:30 PM
337	Air Force	-6½ -110		O 44 -105
338	Navy	+6½ -110		U 44 -115

2:30 PM
339	Ball State	+23 -110		O 53½ -110
340	Penn State	-23 -110		U 53½ -110

2:30 PM
341	Temple	-7 -110		O 51½ -110
342	Akron	+7 -110		U 51½ -110

2:30 PM
343	UAB	+26½ -108		O 43½ -110
344	Georgia	-26½ -112		U 43½ -110

2:30 PM
345	California	+10 -110		O 48 -110
346	TCU	-10 -110		U 48 -110

2:30 PM
347	Buffalo	+11½ -108		O 52 -105
348	Nebraska	-11½ -112		U 52 -115

2:30 PM
351	Texas A&M	-16½ -110		O 52 -110
352	Colorado	+16½ -110		U 52 -110

3:00 PM
353	South Alabama	-16 -115		O 51 -110
354	Bowling Green	+16 -105		U 51 -110

3:30 PM
349	Iowa	+3½ -115		O 44½ -110
350	Iowa State	-3½ -105		U 44½ -110

5:30 PM
355	Houston	-9 -110		O 54½ -110
356	Rice	+9 -110		U 54½ -110

6:00 PM
331	New Mexico State	+18 -105		O 53 -110
332	New Mexico	-18 -115		U 53 -110

6:00 PM
357	Appalachian State	+8 -110		O 54 -110
358	Miami Florida	-8 -110		U 54 -110

6:00 PM
359	Texas State	+1 -110		O 54 -110
360	Florida International	-1 -110		U 54 -110

6:00 PM
361	NC State	-1½ -115		O 56 -115
362	Mississippi State	+1½ -105		U 56 -105

6:00 PM
363	Eastern Michigan	+24½ -110		O 51½ -110
364	Wisconsin	-24½ -110		U 51½ -110

6:00 PM
365	North Texas	+22 -110		O 72½ -110
366	SMU	-22 -110		U 72½ -110

6:00 PM
367	Liberty	-6 -110		O 59½ -110
368	Troy	+6 -110		U 59½ -110

6:00 PM
369	Memphis	-5½ -115		O 64½ -110
370	Arkansas State	+5½ -105		U 64½ -110

6:00 PM
371	Texas	-6 -115		O 58 -110
372	Arkansas	+6 -105		U 58 -110

6:30 PM
373	Missouri	+5½ -110		O 52½ -110
374	Kentucky	-5½ -110		U 52½ -110

6:30 PM
375	Georgia State	+25 -110		O 60½ -110
376	North Carolina	-25 -110		U 60½ -110

7:00 PM
377	Washington	+6 -115		O 50½ -110
378	Michigan	-6 -105		U 50½ -110

9:00 PM
379	Vanderbilt	+5½ -105		O 48 -110
380	Colorado State	-5½ -115		U 48 -110

9:00 PM
381	San Diego State	pk -105		O 47½ -110
382	Arizona	pk -115		U 47½ -110

9:15 PM
383	Utah	-7 -113		O 47 -110
384	BYU	+7 -107		U 47 -110

9:30 PM
385	UNLV	+33½ -115		O 54½ -110
386	Arizona State	-33½ -105		U 54½ -110

9:30 PM
387	Stanford	+17½ -110		O 50½ -110
388	USC	-17½ -110		U 50½ -110

10:00 PM
389	Hawaii	+10½ -110		O 60½ -110
390	Oregon State	-10½ -110		U 60½ -110

 

[twinkie13]

Kansas is 27’ dogs to Coastal?

Wow

 

[EL CAPO]

what's the reason for rutgers being such a short fav ? cuse much improved ? they were double digits worse than rutgers if we base it on last year.

nc state seems to have alot of positive momentum thought that line would be higher against missisippi state

Vandy vs colorado state in the "who was embarrased most last week" bowl

 

[Grovehard]

NC State big. I also expect the Texas Arkansas game to look a lot like the Texas Lafayette game. The off season love for Arkansas has been so weird.

 

[KJ]

NC State big. I also expect the Texas Arkansas game to look a lot like the Texas Lafayette game. The off season love for Arkansas has been so weird.

Arkansas has had the game against Texas marked on the calendar since it was announced, not comparable imo. This is a bowl game for them.

 

[twinkie13]

NC State big. I also expect the Texas Arkansas game to look a lot like the Texas Lafayette game. The off season love for Arkansas has been so weird.

I didn’t get to see much but that’s an idea for sure

 

[twinkie13]

NC State big. I also expect the Texas Arkansas game to look a lot like the Texas Lafayette game. The off season love for Arkansas has been so weird.

You like your boys tomorrow?

 

[twinkie13]

Arkansas has had the game against Texas marked on the calendar since it was announced, not comparable imo. This is a bowl game for them.

I don’t know what to expect there. Agree, HUGE game for both schools

 

[twinkie13]

More ArK obv

 

[s--k]

what's the reason for rutgers being such a short fav ? cuse much improved ? they were double digits worse than rutgers if we base it on last year.

I would say that Rutgers has better chance to improve year-over-year more than Syracuse. That said, I just think there has not been a ton of respect given to Rutgers last year or this year. Even towards the end of last year when the odds should've caught up to them ,they still pulled upsets as 11 and 6.5 pt dogs and nearly pulled upset vs Michigan as 12 pt dog. Their win total was only 3.5 this season. Assuming they would be favored to win Temple, Cuse and Delaware that is only giving them the potential of zero to 1 B1G win. They won 3 last year. So I think there is a general rating on Rutgers that remains low in terms of power rating. Atleast that is about the only way I can explain it.

Syracuse has a little more life, although their game at Ohio wasn't quite as dominant as first glace of the score implied it might've been. Cuse closed as 2-2.5 dog in that game. So maybe there is some adjustment on Syracuse from what looked like a good game at OU? But if so, then why no adjustment for Rutgers hammering Temple? Which also was a little misleading in terms of their production in light of having 60 points.

Syracuse still has a liability at QB I'd say. They were able to run all they wanted on Ohio so they didn't need much out of the passing game. Feels like maybe an Under game.

 

[Grovehard]

Arkansas has had the game against Texas marked on the calendar since it was announced, not comparable imo. This is a bowl game for them.

It may be the only bowl game for them if KJ Jefferson is who I think he is.

 

[Grovehard]

You like your boys tomorrow?

I liked them under 10. Until I see improvement from the defense the back door will always be open. I was hoping for a lazy number on the Ole Miss team total, but I see a 43. I think they get there, and I may go small, but after seeing so many bad quarterback performances this weekend I’m a little gunshy.

 

[Ryno14]

UTEP/Boise over on Friday night

 

[VirginiaCavs]

Can confirm Fayetteville has been amped for a while over Texas. Tonight I saw a Church sign say: „something something spiritual things are eternal. Nevertheless, beat Texas“

Totally overlooked Oregon lookahead angle last week. Florida looks like a big one this week but history under Mullen suggests slow starts then regroup at halftime.

My take on Ducks/Bucks: Oregon vs. Ohio State Preview Article

 

[KJ]

UTEP/Boise over on Friday night

UTEP team total on my radar

 

[s--k]

As somebody who lost UTEP 1st H-10.5 and game-20.5 their game vs Buthune Cookman was concerning. The 1st H vs NMSt was more their potential. I don't know what the hell last week was. Uninspired and lacking execution.

 

[2daBank]

Initial thoughts.

1st look I think I love pitt, is that a sucker line tho? I gotta see how ppl are bettting that game as I’m unsure of vols perception? Lol

I wish wku/army wasn’t such a early kick, Mars got me on the wku over week 1 telling me bout the offense and transfers, was wanting to play their overs for next several weeks but army does what that do and early kick worries me.

I’d lean ducks if Thebodeaux could go but have no idea? He was in a boot after that early play he got rolled up on. Last I heard wasn’t serious tho, that kid is a one man wrecking crew on defense. He a game plan changer! Ducks offense not very impressive but neither is osu defense, you would think ducks will have success on the ground.

App st +8 vs canes is tempting. That a tough game coming off the bama ass kicking.

Uab team total under anyone? Lol. Or does Uga defense have a emotional letdown? Certainly possible.

Ncst another acc team I’m kinda high on going to a sec team. Have to look way more into that one, will ncst run game have success?

It gonna be hard for me not to play liberty!

I think horns beat ark. That a nuetral site game correct?

I sure don’t see a lot of dogs I like this week like there were in week 1

Iowa getting more than a fg very tempting.

 

[TahoeLegend]

Rarely bet early, but liked a few this week. I'll post when I have time. Heading out to party in Sausalito

 

[2daBank]

I liked them under 10. Until I see improvement from the defense the back door will always be open. I was hoping for a lazy number on the Ole Miss team total, but I see a 43. I think they get there, and I may go small, but after seeing so many bad quarterback performances this weekend I’m a little gunshy.

is Lane being away a problem? Isn’t he the play caller?

 

[2daBank]

Kansas is 27’ dogs to Coastal?

Wow

the crazy thing is the line probably short!! Lol

 

[Grovehard]

is Lane being away a problem? Isn’t he the play caller?

It’s not ideal but Kiffin doesn’t call plays exclusively. Lebby is very involved, and I think you’ll see a Brilesque game plan tonight.

 

[carolinablue]

the crazy thing is the line probably short!! Lol

I think Coastal rolls in this one as I don't see how KU keeps this within 30 as they just won't be able to keep up...Seeing it something like 52-17 give or take...

 

[VolsWhiskeyMaker]

What am I missing on the following teams and why their lines are lower than I would have thought? NC State, Michigan, Texas and Rutgers

 

[gsro]

any updates on Thibodeaux? Like tOSU again with him in thre. There was a ton of hype over their chances and nothing really impressed. CJ got better as the game went on and the weather won't be as trash.

 

[2daBank]

It’s not ideal but Kiffin doesn’t call plays exclusively. Lebby is very involved, and I think you’ll see a Brilesque game plan tonight.

yea I was just doing some reading and sounds like Lebby did lot the play calling anyways, didn’t realize that. Sounds like this game could be a good showcase for him as sounds like he be a HC sooner than later.

 

[2daBank]

What am I missing on the following teams and why their lines are lower than I would have thought? NC State, Michigan, Texas and Rutgers

beats me, I agree on several of those being short. Ncst and Rutgers in particular. Not so sure Texas line short? think hogs will give them a game. That said if ya made me pick id prob take horns laying less than 7. Rutgers was head scratching for sure. I’m not sure Michigan line short? Before udub looked terrible Saturday I think they were pretty well thought of. I dunno if I wanna overreact to that game or not? Not like I all a sudden trust Michigan much.

 

[CPA-hole]

The dumpster fire that is UConn football now has Edsall stepping down immediately. DC now interim for rest of year.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Can confirm Fayetteville has been amped for a while over Texas. Tonight I saw a Church sign say: „something something spiritual things are eternal. Nevertheless, beat Texas“

That same sign has been up since December 1969.

Will learn alot about Texas this week. Put a lot into the LaLa win.

 

[s--k]

That same sign has been up since December 1969.

Will learn alot about Texas this week. Put a lot into the LaLa win.

Wonder how Texas OL will do?

Arkansas has a LBs have a targeting problem it appears. Bumper Poole out 1st H this week.

Arkansas loses second linebacker to targeting ejection against Rice

Arkansas loses its second linebacker of the day because of a targeting penalty.

www.google.com

 

[Frank Costanza]

Wonder how Texas OL will do?

Arkansas has a LBs have a targeting problem it appears. Bumper Poole out 1st H this week.

Arkansas loses second linebacker to targeting ejection against Rice

Arkansas loses its second linebacker of the day because of a targeting penalty.

www.google.com

I think that was the biggest concern coming out of the game. But I trust Flood to get things in order.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Arkansas has had the game against Texas marked on the calendar since it was announced, not comparable imo. This is a bowl game for them.

Prior to a month ago I would have agreed with this. Maybe not as big now given that they will likely be playing each other every year now starting with this one.

 

[KJ]

Prior to a month ago I would have agreed with this. Maybe not as big now given that they will likely be playing each other every year now starting with this one.

Thought about that but I can't imagine this group of players thinking like that even if it could happen starting next year

 

[Ryno14]

Initial thoughts.

1st look I think I love pitt, is that a sucker line tho? I gotta see how ppl are bettting that game as I’m unsure of vols perception? Lol

I wish wku/army wasn’t such a early kick, Mars got me on the wku over week 1 telling me bout the offense and transfers, was wanting to play their overs for next several weeks but army does what that do and early kick worries me.

I’d lean ducks if Thebodeaux could go but have no idea? He was in a boot after that early play he got rolled up on. Last I heard wasn’t serious tho, that kid is a one man wrecking crew on defense. He a game plan changer! Ducks offense not very impressive but neither is osu defense, you would think ducks will have success on the ground.

App st +8 vs canes is tempting. That a tough game coming off the bama ass kicking.

Uab team total under anyone? Lol. Or does Uga defense have a emotional letdown? Certainly possible.

Ncst another acc team I’m kinda high on going to a sec team. Have to look way more into that one, will ncst run game have success?

It gonna be hard for me not to play liberty!

I think horns beat ark. That a nuetral site game correct?

I sure don’t see a lot of dogs I like this week like there were in week 1

Iowa getting more than a fg very tempting.

I missed you

 

[Frank Costanza]

Thought about that but I can't imagine this group of players thinking like that even if it could happen starting next year

I don't know - it's one thing for the message to your team to be "This is our one chance for the next 15 years to beat these assholes from Texas." But then knowing you'll have that chance every year, it sort of loses its luster.

Should be interesting.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Initial thoughts.


I think horns beat ark. That a nuetral site game correct?

Fayetteville

You may be thinking Arkansas and Texas A&M. They played in Dallas for several years.

 

[twinkie13]

I don't know - it's one thing for the message to your team to be "This is our one chance for the next 15 years to beat these assholes from Texas." But then knowing you'll have that chance every year, it sort of loses its luster.

Should be interesting.

Audition for more to come. I’m tuning in

 

[2daBank]

Fayetteville

You may be thinking Arkansas and Texas A&M. They played in Dallas for several years.

ah, yea maybe. i thought i had heard they were playing this game at jerryworld but hell i might have dreamed it. lol.. glad someone told me, no interest laying it with horns in true road game i dont think..

 

[2daBank]

I think Coastal rolls in this one as I don't see how KU keeps this within 30 as they just won't be able to keep up...Seeing it something like 52-17 give or take...

sounds reasonable to me.. ku was lucky to get a W last week, they acted like they just won the national championship. they def getting rolled in this one!

 

[PaintCrew]

I hit the Hawkeye/Clone under the moment I saw it. I see now it's gone up a point...more than likely will add a little. First one to 17 wins IMO.

Definitely lean Iowa and 4.5 that's out there now however last week against Indy probably should've been a 20-6 type game (not sure Iowa would be getting as much love if that was the case) although Penix sure was generous with the football.

OT is in play and will be dangerous with a total this low and a game that likely will be one possession but so be it.

 

[2daBank]

I hit the Hawkeye/Clone under the moment I saw it. I see now it's gone up a point...more than likely will add a little. First one to 17 wins IMO.

Definitely lean Iowa and 4.5 that's out there now however last week against Indy probably should've been a 20-6 type game (not sure Iowa would be getting as much love if that was the case) although Penix sure was generous with the football.

OT is in play and will be dangerous with a total this low and a game that likely will be one possession but so be it.

i dunno if iowa would be getting as much love or not? i cant really speak for the masses but when kj told me the look ahead line on that game was iowa+6 i loved it before they played the hoosiers game. so for me anyway the result of hoosiers game or isu struggling didnt really effect my perception. agree with you it be a low scoring slugfest so im naturally drawn to the points in that type of game.. since the line was +6 before the games guess fair to say perception on both changed a tad, although as i said i thought 6 was awful high before the games were played.

 

[2daBank]

hard not to like Cal+10.5. i love nevada this year (along with a few other mw teams) so im not gonna hold that loss against Cal too much, i actually think they did pretty well holding wolfpack to what they did. the Cal offense def leaves something to be desired but i think they can limit the tcu rushing attack and keep Duggan from doing too much damage with his legs,, if they do that i think they can be right in this game. another one that should be pretty low scoring so getting double digits points has a lot of appeal for me!! the under 48 might not be a bad play either, defense def the strength of both teams..

 

[2daBank]

You would think that defense tcu plays with only 2 linebackers would play into Cal’s hands since they really need to have success on the ground to make their offense go.

 

[s--k]

Help me with my math.

UTEP was just a 20.5 HF vs Bethune-Cookman
UCF is a 39.5 HF vs Bethune-Cookman

UCF was 6.5 HF vs Boise
Boise is a 26 HF vs UTEP

 

[2daBank]

Help me with my math.

UTEP was just a 20.5 HF vs Bethune-Cookman
UCF is a 39.5 HF vs Bethune-Cookman

UCF was 6.5 HF vs Boise
Boise is a 26 HF vs UTEP

you hurt my brain trying to sort that all out bro. Lol..

so basically we saying boise laying too many? Cause those lines imply ucf as 19 points better than utep but utep 26 point dogs to a team ucf was a td fav against, at home? Do we think ucf woulda been about a pick’em at boise? Therefore 26 is a td higher than ya would assume boise should be?