Week 2 Discussion Thread

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Sep 8 Fri 2023

06:30 PM
351Illinois+4
-110
352Kansas-4
-110
Sep 9 Sat 2023

10:00 AM
301Vanderbilt+11½
-110
302Wake Forest-11½
-110
11:00 AM
303Notre Dame-8
-110
304NC State+8
-110
11:00 AM
307Ball State+43
-110
308Georgia-43
-110
11:00 AM
315Purduepk
-110
316Virginia Techpk
-110
11:00 AM
317Nebraska+2½
-109
318Colorado-2½
-111
11:00 AM
343Troy+16
-110
344Kansas State-16
-110
02:30 PM
305Western Michigan+20½
-110
306Syracuse-20½
-110
02:30 PM
329Miami Ohio-5½
-110
330Massachusetts+5½
-110
02:30 PM
331UNLV+36
-110
332Michigan-36
-110
02:30 PM
333Texas A&M-5½
-114
334Miami Florida+5½
-106
02:30 PM
335Iowa-4
-110
336Iowa State+4
-110
02:30 PM
341Texas State+11
-110
342UTSA-11
-110
02:30 PM
349Mississippi-6
-107
350Tulane+6
-113
03:00 PM
309Marshallpk
-110
310East Carolinapk
-110
03:00 PM
345Kent State+38½
-110
346Arkansas-38½
-110
04:00 PM
327Tulsa+35
-110
328Washington-35
-110
04:15 PM
363Appalachian State+16½
-110
364North Carolina-16½
-110
05:00 PM
337SMU+16½
-110
338Oklahoma-16½
-110
05:00 PM
365New Mexico State+13
-110
366Liberty-13
-110
05:00 PM
367Ohio+4½
-110
368Florida Atlantic-4½
-110
05:00 PM
369UAB+5
-110
370Georgia Southern-5
-110
05:00 PM
371UL Lafayette-7½
-110
372Old Dominion+7½
-110
05:30 PM
311Cincinnati+7½
-110
312Pittsburgh-7½
-110
05:30 PM
373North Texas-13
-110
374Florida International+13
-110
06:00 PM
355Middle Tennessee State+21½
-112
356Missouri-21½
-108
06:00 PM
357Houston-9
-110
358Rice+9
-110
06:00 PM
359Oregon-7
-110
360Texas Tech+7
-110
06:00 PM
375Jacksonville State+13
-110
376Coastal Carolina-13
-110
06:00 PM
377Connecticut+5
-110
378Georgia State-5
-110
06:00 PM
379Memphis-21
-110
380Arkansas State+21
-110
06:00 PM
381Central Florida-3
-110
382Boise State+3
-110
06:00 PM
383Texas+7½
-110
384Alabama-7½
-110
06:30 PM
323UCLA-13½
-113
324San Diego State+13½
-107
06:30 PM
325Wisconsin-4½
-110
326Washington State+4½
-110
06:30 PM
347Eastern Michigan+19½
-110
348Minnesota-19½
-110
06:30 PM
361Arizona+9
-110
362Mississippi State-9
-110
06:30 PM
387Charlotte+24½
-110
388Maryland-24½
-110
07:00 PM
339Air Force-15
-110
340Sam Houston St
+15
-110
09:30 PM
321Oklahoma State-3
-110
322Arizona State+3
-110

09:30 PM
391Stanford+29½
-110
392USC-29½
-110
 
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A few notables: (Edit: I must have not refreshed).

Huskers touched 3 at DK earlier today, now settled back at +1.5; Back to 3 (-120)

Kansas opened -3.5, down to -2; Back to -3.5

OU opened -14, up to as high as -17, now -16; back to -17

Bama opened -6.5, up to -8

A&M -7.5 in advanced line, opened -5.5, now -4.5; back to -5.5
 
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Usually don’t fire early, but there was some value this week.

Somehow Texas state taking money. Locked that in at Utsa -11 and seeing 10.5 now

Cuse snagged at -20. Under 3 TDs I’ll bite

Have Iowa -2.5 and Miami +7.5 from GOY lines

UM Over now at 58.5.. still fired anything under 60 feels pretty safe

Really don’t love playing massive televised game, but I’ll take Texas at 7.5 or more
 
I’m so curious where they gonna come with the auburn/cal total? I hit cal over and couple ott props week 1, everything I read lead me to believe 53 was prob way low, cal offense is not the old cal offense, they going fast now. No secret bout Auburn offense changing. Not sure that cal be able to run on auburn like a garbage unt run d but I am pretty sure there gonna be a lot of playin in this game and several long plays! I see other totals but not one for this game, they struggling w it? Lol
 
Illinios gettin little more respect than I think they deserve. I didn’t see much that makes me think they can slow down the ku attack, certainly not convinced they can score w a team who can put the points up Kansas can these days.
 
im not a fan of former Uva and now ncst qb Armstrong, I’m usually not a fan of what ncst does offensively, I know it supposed to be different now but not sure different means any better. Oc came over from cuse, I think Armstrong similar to that
Qb so I feel like this not real hard to figure out. I can’t see good defenses having much problems w these guys, qb lacking big time arm, bunch of short passes and lot of running from a qb who has more will than actual talent! we actually have a great point of reference for ND since they played cuse last year. Keep in mind irish had basically no passing game so not like they were tough to stop! They held cuse to 61 rush yards on 25 attempts and only allowed the qbs to go 16-36 for what was generally a high completion rate attack. I really don’t think any good dc is gonna worry much bout getting beat over the top by this offense, take away the qb runs, smother the short shit in the passing game and this offense will look awful. They beat cuse 41-24 with a garbage passing attack. Don’t really know how cuse got to 24 seeing how they had less than 300 total yards and avg 4ypp? Prob were field position scores from both sides. Anyways the point being is there enough similarities for me to say ncst isn’t gonna put up 300 yards of offense in this game and if they score more than 17 I’d be surprised. So basically you gotta either love the Irish by 14+ or ya gotta really like the under! Personally I think Irish win by double digits.
 
Call me crazy, maybe I am cause I have mixed feelings bout Sattrerfield, not really taking much from smashing some terrible little school but I think his offense is gonna allow Emory Jones to actually live up to the 4 star recruit he was years ago. Think this the 1st time in all his college years he has a offense that suites him best. He has a bit more size, better arm, and I’d assume more durable than cunningham was. I think cincy might be a tad underrated, I assume they still have some pretty good defensive players left over? I can’t see myself passing up +7.5 vs pitt. Not a big fan of their qb or passing game since Pickett left and they shifted the offense back to a run heavy approach. If I recall correctly their secondary got roasted quite a bit last year including satterfiekd ville team scoring 17 in the 44th qrtr. I suspect Cincy d will do a better job against pitt run game than ville did. I actually like cincy outright.
 
That AM/canes 50 total feels like it could be way low to me. I expect canes play way faster this week, that game vs Ohio really didn’t give us a chance to see what they gonna play like imo, Ohio basically started taking a knee from the opening snap, it was pretty clear they thought it was a great chance to collect a check and have a good time in Miami. Sadly they showed no desire to even try which made it all to easy for canes not to show much. Van **** is gonna put up numbers when they crank that thing up. We know Aggies will run a bunch of plays w Petrino calling the offense.
 
2daBank said:
Illinios gettin little more respect than I think they deserve. I didn’t see much that makes me think they can slow down the ku attack, certainly not convinced they can score w a team who can put the points up Kansas can these days.
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Is Daniels gonna play for KU this week?
 
Eye test I was NOT impressed with Miami. They covered 2h for me because I figured Miami OH would be spent in the heat/humidity but they're offering nothing different besides perhaps a speedier defense. That QB blows. The "swag" may come back in a year when these pups grow up and the freshman starts. A&M should be able to beat them.
 
2daBank said:
That AM/canes 50 total feels like it could be way low to me. I expect canes play way faster this week, that game vs Ohio really didn’t give us a chance to see what they gonna play like imo, Ohio basically started taking a knee from the opening snap, it was pretty clear they thought it was a great chance to collect a check and have a good time in Miami. Sadly they showed no desire to even try which made it all to easy for canes not to show much. Van **** is gonna put up numbers when they crank that thing up. We know Aggies will run a bunch of plays w Petrino calling the offense.
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Miami offense sucks
 
SMU will play to the end and a backdoor is wide open - but I see OU as trying to blow out their way into the top 10 and doubt they let off the pedal. Wasn't impressed with SMU playing with LA Tech for most of the 2h despite trying to pass/score. Hank was more of the reason for the cover than SMU doing anything great.
 
Purdue / VT has a doom feel to both programs. Sort of sad. Don't even want to watch a minute of that crap fest.
 
Northwestern a home dog to UTEP? Thoughts? My power rating of NW +10 in this matchup must be off?

Arkansas -37 1/2 also seems too high vs Kent St.
 
Loves2kickass said:
Northwestern a home dog to UTEP? Thoughts? My power rating of NW +10 in this matchup must be off?

Arkansas -37 1/2 also seems too high vs Kent St.
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NW probably worst p5 team. Kent St in mix for worst team overall in D1.

I'd imagine Arky will try to run the ball more here. They weren't great in that area Saturday. Maybe that, shortening the game, could help the Flashes.

Utep kind of stb at Jax St but that game should help them here. I want no part of backing NW right now.
 
UCF only giving 3 1/2 to Boise is also a suspect line in my opinion. I don't believe there's too much separation between Washington and UCF. Boise just got destroyed by 31 in Washington and are getting just over a FG at home this week against UCF. UCF winning in Boise by DD seems very possible to me.
 
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Clones are gonna beat Iowa then lose to Marsski and STEED next week
 
Inspekdah said:
Miami offense sucks
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Miami offense used to suck, are we sure if gonna suck this year? I feel pretty confident in saying Van **** could be very good, as in good enough to get drafted at some point. I watched him a lot 2 years ago and the kid can sling it all over the field! Whatever happened during that shit show last year before he got hurt wasn’t his fault. Now they bring in a oc who been learning under Holgerson for 4 years, I have a pretty good idea what this offense will look like. I know this qb is 10x more talented than the qbs who put up yards at houston basically throwing to one Uber talented wr, I assume canes have 3-4 guys who as talented as that kid was!! I hate Cristobal as a HC but the one thing other than recruiting he does very well is build olines! If I’m wrong feel free to remind me and laugh, lol, god knows trusting Miami and Cristobal are not things I’m excited about even if I do long for the canes heyday as I grew up loving that team! That has nothing to do with this, im telling ya, canes are gonna be able to light up most anyone!
 
brewers888 said:
Lots of money on Miami with the line I saw at 3.5 this morning. I'm probably not betting this game but I trust Petrino more than any coach on the Miami staff so if I bet the game I will take A&M.
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To me it all about the over baby! I agree bout petrino but I think Holgerson system is gonna suite Van **** incredibly well, and as I mentioned above I think Cristobal a terrible HC but he is pretty damn good at building Olines, if this offense has a strong line blocking for them they are gonna put up numbers! I don’t know much bout Aggies players but the reason I’m excited for over cause im In same boat as you that I just believe in Petrino to have a very good offense w the kind of talent they should have.
 
2daBank said:
Call me crazy, maybe I am cause I have mixed feelings bout Sattrerfield, not really taking much from smashing some terrible little school but I think his offense is gonna allow Emory Jones to actually live up to the 4 star recruit he was years ago. Think this the 1st time in all his college years he has an offense that suites him best. He has a bit more size, better arm, and I’d assume more durable than cunningham was. I think cincy might be a tad underrated, I assume they still have some pretty good defensive players left over? I can’t see myself passing up +7.5 vs pitt. Not a big fan of their qb or passing game since Pickett left and they shifted the offense back to a run heavy approach. If I recall correctly their secondary got roasted quite a bit last year including satterfiekd ville team scoring 17 in the 44th qrtr. I suspect Cincy d will do a better job against pitt run game than ville did. I actually like cincy outright.
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Didn’t Cincy lose a ton this past year?
 
Inspekdah said:
Runs that Rich Rod WR motion screen 5 yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 10. No ability to throw down the field.
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Van **** will be throwing down the field. I dunno where ya’ll coming up with this conclusion? The houston offense has been pretty damn good since he been there under Holgerson. They averaged 8.2 yards per pass last season w a qb who not close to the arm talent Van **** has. Am I missing something? The OC was in houston the last 4 years correct? Are we basing this off week 1 or what? Im so confused how ya’ll have determined he bad after 1 game in which they didn’t have to show anything as they played a team who took a knee starting at beginning the game!! Canes didn’t even play fast week 1, That wasn’t the offense we will see going forward. Unless im so high I got the wrong guy, the wrong team, something?? If this the dudes 1st year and he was Holgerson oc the last 4 I dunno how you and @brewers888 have determined this offense is bad??
 
satnightfever05 said:
Didn’t Cincy lose a ton this past year?
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Yes but More offense than D. I like that the offense been replaced, they still have some pretty good defensive players that stuck around, they lost a few good ones to the draft and maybe 1-2 to portal but the front 7 has lot of guys that were in fickle team I believe? Which big here since the key to this game is jamming up pitt rush attack and not letting them play keep away from cincy offense.
 
satnightfever05 said:
Decker is out for ISU right with the gambling stuff? Can’t see Clones winning here
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If I actually capped it I would prob like iowa. Problem is this iowa vs isu, capping it is a exercise in futility! Just know it prob be very low scoring and the dog covers this game a lot!! (7 of last 10 I believe).
 
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