Week 14 discussion thread

[D-Woww]

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[TD]TEN TITANS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]MIN VIKINGS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Dec 09[/TD]
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[TD]ATL FALCONS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]CAR PANTHERS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Dec 09[/TD]
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[TD]ST. LOUIS RAMS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Dec 09[/TD]
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[TD]MIA DOLPHINS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]SFO 49ERS[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Dec 09[/TD]
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[TD]ARI CARDINALS[/TD]
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[TD]DET LIONS[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 9"]NFL - REGULAR SEASON - WEEK 14 - GAME LINES[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 9"]MONDAY,DECEMBER 10TH, 2012 - GAME LINES[/TD]
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[D-Woww]

yikes that pasted terribly. sorry.

love jags/jets under 38.5

Raiders +10.5 big. Both teams on short rest, so Denver wont have killer instinct, they will be in "lets just get in to oakland and do enough to win the game and not get anybody hurt" mode

Vikings are bad. AP is a beast but they have nobody else at all and Ponder blows. Lean Bears -3

zona team total under.

 

[JumpOnBoard]

Really strange card.

 

[twinkie13]

10s, 3s, and 7s

 

[C-MAN]

Already bet Jets under 38.5, Car +4 (-125) and Indy -5. Expect all of them to move by game time.

 

[raems]

Very very doubtful that Atlanta prepares well for this week's game.

 

[jdoggoakley]

TB/Philly over 46 - not sure how this doesn't go over this number (maybe by halftime).
Eagles can't stop a runny nose. Foles and Brown are actually moving the ball.
TB will score with you, happily.

 

[Play2win]

first one i jumped on was Cincy -2, think its up to -3 already

 

[2daBank]

love the cincy play,,i thought it should have been -4.5 at least, dont see any reason why cincy doesnt keep making playoff push..they should dominate the los on both sides of the ball...

that phi/tb ov was the first total that stuck out, everyone scores on phi, we say it every week (tb tt has to be in play).. i guess the thing is can foles continue getting better if phi struggles to run? prob so against bucs secondary, brown gonna fumble once or twice whether that fumbles to set up scores or cost phi in the red zone would be my biggest concern,,that number def on the rise early tho as i see some 47s already..

oak/den 1st half un cause i always play under in the thu night gm, usually works out..

ten/indy 49 feels high, maybe that should tell me something considering how low 1st gm was but indy typically plays lower scoring gms at home and d has to look to play better than they did in det..i would think indy would like to get back to more rushing attempts than they have had lately as well..

agree with atl not being up for this gm,,id think i play panthers or pass but not sure yet...

 

[Lareux]

yikes that pasted terribly. sorry.

love jags/jets under 38.5

Raiders +10.5 big. Both teams on short rest, so Denver wont have killer instinct, they will be in "lets just get in to oakland and do enough to win the game and not get anybody hurt" mode

Vikings are bad. AP is a beast but they have nobody else at all and Ponder blows. Lean Bears -3

zona team total under.

Will be on the Raiders as well, home dogs of +8 or better is over 90% L3 (or L5) years if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Marlo]

first one i jumped on was Cincy -2, think its up to -3 already

This.

 

[Marlo]

Jump can maybe comment on this, but Cincy's secondary has played extremely well the last month or so. Law Firm seems to be breaking out recently, and Dalton is finding people besides AJ Green in the passing attack. One of the hotter teams right now.

 

[Marlo]

Look for the Bears to play this vikings game pretty dirty. Ponder has played better at home than on the road, although he's just terrible in general. Fans are screaming for a change, but its not happening. Vikes had a few cheap shots on the bears players a few weeks ago at Soldier field. I think the Bears smoke us, but this team seems to be on the decline right now.

 

[Marlo]

49ers have bounced back big after a loss this year, I think they do here as well.

What's Detroits mindset? 4-8, and no division or wild card hopes. I watched the Packers run the ball alot more this past weekend, than I have in along time. Jordy likely out? GB seems like a nice teaser partner with someone.

The Last time the EAgles defense gave up less than 26 was 2months ago.

I keep preaching it, but Baltimores offense on the road is terrible. I think they can contain RG3, and that total is about 3-4 pts to high.

 

[HUNT]

Detroit has no mindset. They cursed.

 

[HUNT]

Is clay Matthews back? Big Ben?

 

[aplous]

I hammered Steed's Browns -4 -120 and will have more at -5.5. They have the chance to win 3 in a row in forever and all the emotion that KC summoned up last week will come crashing down on them IMO. This week they have the services and all the fallout. Crennel, Dabbol, Hillis & Quinn..... little reunion in Cleveland.

 

[Play2win]

Skins right back...

 

[nbafan88]

Law Firm seems to be breaking out recently


:bong:

 

[Silkydiamonds]

I wouldn't take the Skins, starting CB Cedric Griffin suspended for the rest of the season & DHall on crutches

 

[aplous]

Ya Im veeeeeeeeery interested in Baltimore coming off that tough L, especially if I can get +3..... I know teams have a bad record after Pitt but Skins off the huge MNF win, awful pass D as is and now Hall and Griffin are Q...

 

[Play2win]

maybe i have Balt D and O too low

 

[IvyinBarondise]

Can I get a prop bet in the Jets/Jags under 14 for +400?lol

Total in that game REALLLLLLLY stands out....I gotta look at it a little more but I'm very enthused....

Jets biggest weakness defensively is that they can be run on. Unless MJD is active, I'm not too worried about Henne tossing it to a banged up Shorts and Blackmon. We both know the Jets cant score, basically ever lol. I mean, does anyone like the over here?

 

[IvyinBarondise]

Seattle too

 

[tee*dub]

I see Ponder got engaged.. I am happy for him actually.. I think he is a good kid...

 

[Coverdatspred]

Sam Steele must have a golden pussy.

 

[tee*dub]

I see Ponder got engaged.. I am happy for him actually.. I think he is a good kid...

Ya, plans call for a wedding without a RECEPTION.

:tiphat:

 

[jdoggoakley]

LOL!

 

[Coverdatspred]

Ya, plans call for a wedding without a RECEPTION.

:tiphat:

Especially if his WR core are in the wedding, I hear that Harvin won't be ready by then.

 

[Coverdatspred]

I just read that he couldn't decide on the groomsmen so he just decided to close his eyes and pick six.

 

[C-MAN]

I know KC is in a tough spot, but a couple of guys on their roster are returning to Clev for the first time so they should put forth a decent effort.

 

[ScopeY]

Rams jump out to anyone??

 

[NYGiants25]

Brian Urlacher out 3 games ... possible rest of season ....

An MRI on Tuesday confirmed Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher has a Grade 2 hamstring strain, and is expected to miss the next three games, and possibly the rest of the regular season, the Chicago Tribune reported.


Urlacher suffered the injury on the play just before the Seattle Seahawks' game-winning touchdown in overtime on Sunday at Soldier Field. The Tribune reported he heard a "pop" while chasing quarterback Russell Wilson.

Urlacher was on the sideline with his right leg wrapped when Sidney Rice scored the winning TD.


According to the Tribune, Urlacher hopes to be fully recovered by the playoffs. It's uncertain if he expects to be back for the Dec. 30 season finale in Detroit. The Bears are 8-4 and have lost three of their past four games.


Urlacher, 34, sprained his posterior collateral ligament in last season's finale against the Minnesota Vikings. He had arthroscopic knee surgery in the offseason, and there were reports he underwent other procedures. He missed most of training camp.


An eight-time Pro Bowl selection and former NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2005), Urlacher will be a free agent after this season. He has professed his desire to retire a Bear, but the team wants to wait until after the season to discuss his future.


On Tuesday, the Bears signed linebacker Dom DeCicco, who likely will back up Nick Roach when the Bears travel to play the Vikings on Sunday.

 

[bones]

The lines that peaked my interest without further study were:

Jaguars +2.5.....are jets going to win this game?

Ravens/Skins Total 47........why will there be 14 more pts in this game than Monday night's?

Skins -2.5......if Cedric Griffin was not out I would hit this line now. Probably will. RGIII will get this done, right?

Boys/Bengals Total 45.5.....seems low

Cards +10.5.......need to look into this, but I see a ground and pound game. If Cards can get 14 points, a big if, wont they be able to cover?

 

[tee*dub]

I just read that he couldn't decide on the groomsmen so he just decided to close his eyes and pick six.

very nice'an_horse'

 

[C-MAN]

Rams jump out to anyone??

Rams jump out to anyone??

Thought about them, but:

StL 4-0-1 vs division, 1-6 vs rest of the league

StL 0-3 vs AFC East

StL 4-2 home, 1-4-1 away/neutral

Buff 3-2 at home, 3-1 ATS L4 games and have rushed the ball really well in all four of them.

 

[tee*dub]

I like Buff in a big way. already loaded it b4 it moves off the 3...favorite play of the weekend

 

[C-MAN]

Also warming up to Chi and Giants. Will likely be on one or both of them. Minny has been solid at home, but Chi has their number lately and will be motivated off a loss and GB on their heels having won 6 of last 7 games. We have seen how Giants can take care of business when they show up. Don't think Coughlin let's them play two shitty games in a row, especially with division now in question. Basically two legit playoff teams who will be motivated against two non-playoff teams with serious flaws.

 

[C-MAN]

Clev up to -6.5 at my book. That is crazy ... They are still the Browns.

 

[twinkie13]

Giants on a short week, we may get a nice line for them

HUUUUUGE revenge game, when the Saints torched em last out......gimme under a TD for anything

 

[D-Woww]

im starting to like the Colts a lot. They have bad pass d, but their run d is alright, and I don't trust Locker to exploit the pass d much. Could easily see a 27-17 game

 

[D-Woww]

Look for the Bears to play this vikings game pretty dirty. Ponder has played better at home than on the road, although he's just terrible in general. Fans are screaming for a change, but its not happening. Vikes had a few cheap shots on the bears players a few weeks ago at Soldier field. I think the Bears smoke us, but this team seems to be on the decline right now.

Marlo am I nuts that i really like Joe Webb? The guys been money every time hes ever gotten a chance to play. If you're not gonna use him, send him to a team that will. Joe Webb for Eagles qb of 2013!

 

[Play2win]

Skelton starting for Arz

 

[Play2win]

Sanchez starting for NYJ

 

[C-MAN]

Marlo am I nuts that i really like Joe Webb? The guys been money every time hes ever gotten a chance to play. If you're not gonna use him, send him to a team that will. Joe Webb for Eagles qb of 2013!

Jeez. Someone calling for Joe Webb? That (and the QB's on The roster in Arz) should tell you something about the lack of QB talent/depth in the NFL. Then again, I guess you could consider Webb a decent backup when you consider some of the alternatives.

 

[Marlo]

Marlo am I nuts that i really like Joe Webb? The guys been money every time hes ever gotten a chance to play. If you're not gonna use him, send him to a team that will. Joe Webb for Eagles qb of 2013!

Not sure what the deal is with Webb. I think its something to do with the playbook, but idk. It can't be that hard, hand off to adrian on 1st and 2nd down, and throw an incomplete pass on 3rd down, punt, and rinse and repeat.

 

[Marlo]

Pretty sure Percy Harvin has played his last game as a Viking. He's out for the year.

 

[Marlo]

That makes me sad. He's an amazing player, who will likely demand a trade this offseason (like he did this one ).

 

[Gaius.T]

I like Buff in a big way. already loaded it b4 it moves off the 3...favorite play of the weekend

Hey t! Why the big Buff love? I assume It's more than just a few trends pointing against the Lambs.

 

[wiseplayer]

I'm guessing its because the Rams play like dog meat on the road. They'll struggle to contain Buffalo's offense of Spiller, Jackson and Johnson. Also, the Rams came up empty vs the Jets (at home) after they played the Niners. They might come up empty again after another OT game. Lets face it, Bradford is very talented but he just doesn't have what it takes mentally to win in this type of situation. What are the chances he plays well in this spot? I give the Rams a 15% chance to win this game because of Bradford.