week 12 big ten

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Last one for me...I'll let bar do next few weeks..he's got his maize and blue kool aid about 2 liters full now..

Worst I've seen conference in 20 years. Just no interest really.

Think most of cfb is a fraud minus Bama and Clemson. Noone beating either of them..and Clemson won't sniff Bama's jock. Bama won't lose until 2020 at the earliest. As long as Tua is there. Saban evolved..that's scary. GL rest of cfb.

OSU/Maryland..very little will be shown from tosu..they getting ready for Nov. 24th

Michigan/Indiana...see above

Michigan State/Nebraska...no clue

PSU/Rutgers...really?

NW/Minnesota...such a joke NW is in big ten title game..complete joke...they get to finish with Minny and Illinois while UM/Ohio State play week prior...a joke.

Iowa/Illinois...really? my god this conference sucks

Wisconsin/Purdue...fuckin terrible

Terrible conference...teams were way overrated..but most of CFB been bad this year...

Not usually a negative guy but this year has seen very brutal football all over the USA.
 
Disagree on OSU...they need to get Haskins' head right after focusing on the run vs. Nebraska and having problems passing in the wind vs MSU....they need a chuck it around and run up the score game...I think they get it.
 
They need to work on a lot of things marsski..Urban seems to want to get that run game going.

Zach Smith is just getting started on twitter again. I got a lot of popcorn ready. He's the best thing I've seen in the big ten all year.
 
They need to work on a lot of things marsski..Urban seems to want to get that run game going.

Zach Smith is just getting started on twitter again. I got a lot of popcorn ready. He's the best thing I've seen in the big ten all year.

He's a fucking dumpster fire.

Dwayne going home to Maryland too....expecting a showcase game...
 
That is a good and interesting point Marsski. I can definitely see it working out that way. Ohio State does need to build confidence this week for Haskins and the entire offense. They need to, but can they?
 
Ho hum week in conference last week....


Minnesota played some defense I guess and ran all over Purdue. That was a stunning final score to say the least. The Boilers have had the definition of highs and lows this season. Basically they are right back to where they started. Nice win for Minnesota to at least have a chance to get bowl eligible. It looked bleak after the Illinois game, no doubt.

Michigan did what they needed to do at Rutgers. One miscommunication led to the huge play (thank goodness for the team total) but otherwise they went in and got about the final score I saw coming. Basically just wanted to get out of there without anything too bad happening. The injuries and concussion do not appear to be severe. Hill was in protocol Monday but rumor is he should be fine. We'll see.

Penn State gutted out a solid win at home. They can still achieve a solid bowl game send McSorley out with a nice Florida Bowl. Wisconsin simply isn't that good and it showed this year. Injuries have mounted, obviously. This game was pretty ugly in general.

Nebraska, aka Team Value, rolled over Illinois. This was no surprise. They still gave up plenty on the ground but the Illini had to be happy with the prior weeks win and couldn't keep pace with the Husker offense. This game was the definition of getting the point spread at the right times.

Maryland and Indiana was a close game. I saw none of this other than the scores scrolling by with weird numbers. Both teams are now 5-5 with chances to get to a bowl game. Remember that for capping their matches the next two weeks.

Michigan State and Ohio State was one or the toughest watches in football in some time. It was ugly. The OSU punter won the game, basically. I'll have more on Michigan State as it relates to this game and next week coming up... Solid road win for the Bucks.

I liked Iowa to roll, and I was wrong. I think they had their chances to get a few scores on the board but they could not capitalize on drives at all. Finally the seal broke, and NW got the lead. Good, old fashioned knuckler game. It was ugly but Northwestern just 'wins' games. Bottom line.


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Okay, we have an interesting dynamic with the Spartans. Lets recap and talk. I am going to be brief here so if I missed a part, forgive me...

Let me preface with saying that I was thinking Lewerke was hurt earlier in the year. Now, I am not saying it was bad then but he has had some bruises I believe. Okay, so something happened at Penn State? The Michigan game comes and he looked like hot garbage...but then again...every QB in conference this season has looked the same way versus them. After the game, Dantonio says that he didn't practice all week. The OC said he did practice. Lewerke himself seemed surprised at what his own head coach said and kind of just went with things. Okay, Lombardi starts versus Purdue and has a good game. Now, at Maryland, out comes Lewerke again. Okay, both played there and neither was great. Okay, then we have the Ohio State game and Lewerke starts again and is horrible. Lombardi enters, runs a solid 2 min drill that amounted to nothing huge. He then looks brutal in the third and Lewerke magically re-enters in the 4th quarter. He, again, sucks and looks bad....

So, after all that...

-Neither player wanted to comment or seemed happy
-Lewerke was motioning to sideline that he was hurt yet he was playing?
-Did Dantonio re-insert an injured player into the game in the 4th quarter? Did he play a guy with what could be a bad injury for the 2nd time in four weeks?

There are lots of questions and answers up in East Lansing right now.

And, that doesn't even take into account the fact they stopped trying to run the other day. The throwing from their own end zone several times was preposterous.


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One more Michigan State thing on a personal level for the SEMCON contingent...

I knew that this team was getting way too much hype entering the season. With that being said, @HUNT got me thinking about their RSW total Under back in the summer. We went over each game and potential records. Looking at it as impartially as I could helped me get on board with this play but he was the definite catalyst on this one. So, big props to him on the Spartoons RSW under. It cashed with last weeks loss to Ohio State. So, yes, I was rooting for the Buckeyes on Saturday.


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As far as this weeks schedule....


Purdue needs to get bowl eligible. With that being said, this game has so many questions. That current number is nothing I would think about laying. This game is a good stay away, imo. Although, those that cap on the bowl eligible premise may be looking at this harder.

Iowa has to just be deflated. The losses to Penn State, Purdue and Northwestern were all heartbreaking. That doesn't even count the Wisconsin game a few months ago. Now, it is just about where they end up playing in December. Despite all this, they should wear down the Illini. My only advice here would be to look at the 2nd half line if this game is close or Iowa is trailing slightly. That is when Illinois seems to lose steam a lot.

Penn State and Rutgers holds zero appeal for me. That is whether it is betting, watching or even knowing the final score.

Northwestern has clinched their division with 2 weeks left. It is pretty impressive and also speaks to how the West is. Now, this is a potential letdown game for them in Minnesota. The thing is, even if they win out... what does it mean? It helps to see Minnesota rebound after the change last week with a big win. I don't see myself betting Minnesota but I would not bet Northwestern. For all you trap line types, this game reeks of it, right?

Nebraska and Michigan State is an interesting game. Last week was a big blow for MSU. They had designs on winning out and going to the Rose Bowl. That is what the fanbase had talked about for a few weeks going in. Now, they are going to get stuck in the Outback Bowl (oh please happen, please happen since they boycotted Outback last December) or something even worse like the Pinstripe Bowl. The 7th win will come next week in 'The Situation Trophy' game so this game is their chance to be playing for a 9 win season in a bowl game. As we talked about earlier though, what is going on up there? Then, there is Team Value on the other side. This is an interesting game of weaknesses vs strengths. I won't lie, NU is my lean as of now. I would not have said that a week ago.

Indiana always is a tricky game for Michigan. It just is. It doesn't help it is the week before The Game this season. I expect a solid enough performance where Michigan is happy to get away with a grind it out win that won't be too pretty is my guess.

Ohio State visits Maryland. Homecoming for Haskins, as Mars pointed out. This team is still trying to establish the run I think because without it they are a sitting duck in a few weeks. I think we'll see them play their best overall offensive game in awhile here. Now, Maryland should be able to run on them a bit but I think that OSU puts some points on the board. It might be a good game to finally look at a TT for them again. It has been awhile. Obviously, weather permitting.

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Hunt said the conference is bad...like 20 years in the making bad....

Lets think about it a bit....

I personally will say the worst the conference was in the last 30 years was in 2009-2010 or so. It wasn't pretty at all then. There were surrounding years there as well...

The big thing going into the season is you had 3 teams ranked too high. You know I said it about Wisconsin all summer. I wasn't high as most on Penn State as well. Add in that Michigan State was about 10 spots too high in the original polls.

Things change throughout the year. This year, and I was thinking about this the other day really highlights how important it is to have depth and good all-around coaching staffs.

The West is still not great. They keep knocking each other around while one team has just kept winning out there....the Cardiac Cats.

All of college football is down though to be honest. The 'vaunted' SEC has two great teams as we projected and then one very good team (LSU) and the rest of the conference is just like the rest of the Big Ten.

A lot has gone on at Ohio State, Maryland and Michigan State the last few years. That doesn't help things.


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I give Northwestern credit. They are not pretty but they win. They are well coached and a heck of a defensive team this year. The loss to Akron is mind-boggling. The loss to Duke highlighted maybe the one game where their coaches were not up to par. Otherwise, they have lost to the #4 team at home in a close game. There will be no layup here for Ohio State or Michigan in the Championship game.


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Alright, I'll add more throughout the week. Any questions, ask them up...
 
Nebraska really struggles to stop the run, esp the power game. I will say this. For whatever reason, Nebraska historically has been able to move the ball pretty well against their defense. Remember, our 5 win team in Riley's first year beat the sparty playoff team.
 
I'll also say this...I think Nebraska has the best offense in the conference. Pretty amazing turnaround.
 
Nebraska really struggles to stop the run, esp the power game. I will say this. For whatever reason, Nebraska historically has been able to move the ball pretty well against their defense. Remember, our 5 win team in Riley's first year beat the sparty playoff team.

They do, big-time.

But, Sparty struggles to run the ball. Although, you can use the Maryland game as sort of a comparison...they had 45 for 189 if you take away that 80 yard run (just trying to look at the consistency factor).

So, does MSU comes out and run Mike's goal of 40+ times or do they have a weird-ass game plan like last week?
 
I'd lean Sparty but wont bet it just because these are games they win when no expectation and everyone down on them. Hope Corn kills them and they go play in NY for a bowl game or somewhere in Alaska, serve the miserable fuck fan base right.

PSU will probably cover against Rutgers, this isn't a game where Mr Peanut has to make a decision that costs his team and it is a game where he can puff his small dick out and try to impress some people to make a NY6 game, which is still in play for them somehow someway. Such a Franklin cover type game here.

I'd lean OSU and won't touch Michigan. With our defense we can cover any game but i don't know with OSU on deck how intent we will be to drill IU obviously by 4 plus TDs, its irrelevant for big picture. I personally would like to hit M fans over the head for worrying about this game though. Cmon.

Because I love watching horrible football, I sat through PSU Wiscy game as a I had under and teased under with Wiscy. So I get to watch Franklin make two more boneheaded decisions:
At end of quarter, wind at his back, Wiscy player got injured with about 25 seconds on clock, thus stopping clock. PSU in the meantime had FG team all lined up on field ready to go so they can kick with wind without having to use a timeout. Play resumes clock ticks down to 16 seconds, still plenty of time to kick with wind at back and Franklin comes out on field calling for TO. Now he has done two things, wasted a timeout with plenty of time left and froze his kicker for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. Kicker misses FG.

He completely mismanaged the end of first half clock as well allowing Wiscy to get the ball back with time to do something but their QB was awful and threw a pick, thus saving his stupidity.

HUNT is right about everything, this conference is so fucking bad this year its disgusting. But so is 98% of college football. I don't remember overall seeing a worse year in the sport and its really weekly where there are no big time games on. The best game this week is Cuse vs ND at 2:30. Last weekend I was at a wedding and I didn't care because all the night games were trash. I can't even watch B12 football as exciting to some as it may be because the defense is just brutal, Id rather watch hoops if i want to see teams scoring every 10 seconds. AWFUL!
 
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How did Indiana‘s fg kicker get big 10 player of the week? Talk about an absolute fucking robbery. The reward must not mean much to those who hand it out
 
Last year's NFL draft had a lot of qb's in the first round. May make sense that this year is a down year especially in the night games where USC, UCLA, and Wyoming aren't able to deliver entertaining performances
 
Last year's NFL draft had a lot of qb's in the first round. May make sense that this year is a down year especially in the night games where USC, UCLA, and Wyoming aren't able to deliver entertaining performances
I was just thinking about the Big Ten upon waking up and my first thought was about the Cal QBs and the entertainment that is Wyoming football.
 
Maryland HC Matt Canada confirmed that sophomore QB Kasim Hill tore his left ACL and will miss the remainder of the season.
Hill (6'2/234) missed most of last season after tearing his right ACL. Another long rehab process is coming and it would be a surprise if Hill was healthy enough to take snaps in September next year. He finishes this season with 1,083 passing yards and a 9/4 TD/INT ratio on 49.4% completions. Tyrrell Pigrome will take over under center. Nov 13 - 12:30 PM
 
Gut feel on Sparty / Nebraska is that Frost has them playing really hard and intense at home this weekend while you may see Mich. State a little comatose. NU is sniffing a little success now and, if they lose Saturday, it won't be because they're not focused and giving 100% in this game. Huge for Frost to finish off the season the way NU is currently trending.
 
Purdue held to season low 233 total yards last week and was 0-for-12 3rd down. What are the chances they bounce back with a good showing this week? Badger D more susceptible this year.

Last year after Michigan held them to 189, PU posted 439 vs Min the following week (2nd most yards allowed by Gophers last year). After Wisconsin held them to 221, PU posted 474 vs Rutgers the next week (3rd most allowed by Rutgers).

Was just such an uncharacteristic game by an experienced Brohm O last week. Under normal conditions I would expect a good performance tomorrow...unless, has Brohm been distracted with Louisville goings ons the last week?
 
Purdue held to season low 233 total yards last week and was 0-for-12 3rd down. What are the chances they bounce back with a good showing this week? Badger D more susceptible this year.

Last year after Michigan held them to 189, PU posted 439 vs Min the following week (2nd most yards allowed by Gophers last year). After Wisconsin held them to 221, PU posted 474 vs Rutgers the next week (3rd most allowed by Rutgers).

Was just such an uncharacteristic game by an experienced Brohm O last week. Under normal conditions I would expect a good performance tomorrow...unless, has Brohm been distracted with Louisville goings ons the last week?
Yeah, it's going to loom over the team these next two weeks. That's the tough part to factor in.
 
I've been super busy this week, sorry for not adding a lot to the thread since the first day or so...

Quick, last thoughts about tomorrows B1G card...


I wouldn't recommend anything on the Michigan-Indiana game at all. I can see something like 34-14. I can also see something like 38-7. Once again, no Shea designed runs please and Higdon out of game as soon as possible. Stay sharp. Do not overlook the Hoosiers. Well, if you asked me for one play, I would say take the U55. I am not playing it myself but that is the best angle I can find.

Does Iowa care enough anymore? Are they mentally fried? That is the key here. If they are into this game, they should roll. If their heads are not there they will have a tough time covering. This is the kind of game, as I said the other day, that Iowa should wear them out in the 2h.

Purdue and Wisconsin bring about similar questions. There are still too many 'what ifs' in this game. I frankly think it is not worth looking at with the outside issues that are going on for Purdue and the head coaching situation. If they are there to play though, the TT might be worth a look. Just capping the game itself, I would lean that play but the distractions make me pause.

This is how busy I have been this week, I had no idea that Minnesota was now favored. As stated earlier, dangerous game for Northwestern here. Run away, run far far away. Now, numbers-wise, a bet on NW might be warranted. Not my cup of tea to honest though.

Someone said it early, big bully James Franklin might take things out on Rutgers this week. I cannot imagine Rutgers gets more than 10 points in this game. Again, the TT may very well be in play for the Lions. Check the weather first and maybe see if the number goes below the hook. I just cannot see PSU not trying to blow this one out.

Ohio State will do well to get the running game going again but mix in some pass to get Haskins going as well. I think if they get a good size lead they let off the gas a bit before next week. Maryland could be in the tank at this point. It has been an emotional few weeks and they may have run out of gas on this season. I would lean OSU here and maybe 1h TT. The game TT would also be an option if I wasn't scared they were liable to just get out of there with a win. They could use some style points though.

Nebraska is now a fav at home. Team value has another line go in their direction. It is a weekly thing with them, and for good reason. Only recommended play here is Nebraska ML. I am still not sure what I may do as far as betting this game. I lost the initial number but I do feel they can/will win this game. Michigan States front 7 will have to win it for the Spartans. The total is down to 47.5. I know some guys bet the 49 over earlier in the week. I do like this to go over 47.5 as well. I'll likely play this after my weather checks.


Okay, enjoy the games....CHECK YOUR FORECASTS around the country and have a great Saturday.
 
Only injury word I saw...

Levert Hill out

Josh Mettulus is a maybe.

Both will be good to go next week though.
 
OSU is gonna roll tomorrow. Haskins has 2 single-season records he can set tomorrow in front of his friends and family in Maryland.
Without a doubt.

After looking the forecast up and down I'll be on the 1h TT over for sure unless the number gets out of hand. I have it projected at 20/20.5 now.
 
Does Iowa care enough anymore? Are they mentally fried? That is the key here. If they are into this game, they should roll. If their heads are not there they will have a tough time covering. This is the kind of game, as I said the other day, that Iowa should wear them out in the 2h.

Iowa fans screaming to run the ball and stop the run. Iowa has run the ball for under 3.56 ypc 5x this year - they just aren't a really good running team like past Hawkeye teams. One would think that Illinois D provides Iowa the opportunity to do whatever they want. Surprising to see NW's Fr RB Bowser run for 165 5.32 last week - that is not Iowa football.

I have been lulled into a false sense of optimism twice on Illinois this year. I felt maybe they could beat Maryland, and they lost 63-33. Here again I'm thinking they could beat Iowa...maybe...kinda...sorta... if that were remotely possible it is going to take Iowa sucking today. The only real reason to think that would be they are feeling the effects of a rough 3 game losing streak. Probably the most likely scenario is Iowa gets 'healthy' today...but that is boring. Hopefully Illinois can make it a game.
 
Purdue rolls. This coach stuff from a team distraction standpoint couldn’t be more overblown. They will show up today on senior day needing a win to get bowl eligible against a team they haven’t beat since the 90’s or something ridiculous.

Purdue 38-14
 
Purdue rolls. This coach stuff from a team distraction standpoint couldn’t be more overblown. They will show up today on senior day needing a win to get bowl eligible against a team they haven’t beat since the 90’s or something ridiculous.

Purdue 38-14

I like the confidence. Hope the Boilers are equally confident and focused.

Agree that I like the fact this is Purdue and Brohm's chance to beat a marque program in Wisconsin. I've said it before I think that kind of stuff matters to him. Purdue was over matched last year, but still, somehow, made that game vs UW close. Boiler Up Baby!
 
Purdue‘s run D will have to be way better today to limit JT

Yeah. Outside of last week, there is some reason for optimism....have held some run Os in check. Plus Purdue can maybe count on a Taylor fumble or two.
 
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