Wednesday Discussion/Thoughts

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<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=wht-title bgColor=#16177c><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD noWrap>Run Line</TD><TD noWrap>Money Line</TD><TD noWrap>Total Runs</TD><TD>More </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>951</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Mets
M. Pelfrey

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +117 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-138 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +102 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>952</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Washington Nationals
M. Chico

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -112 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>953</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Florida Marlins
D. Willis

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -151 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+135 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 -114 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>954</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Atlanta Braves
C. James

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +141 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-143 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 +104 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>955</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Milwaukee Brewers
D. Bush

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +117 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-138 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +109 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>956</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Houston Astros
J. Gutierrez

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -119 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>957</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cincinnati Reds
T. Shearn

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+164 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>958</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-172 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>959</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Philadelphia Phillies
J. Moyer

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -181 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+102 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>960</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>St Louis Cardinals
A. Wainwright

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +171 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-110 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -116 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>961</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Los Angeles Dodgers
B. Penny

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +120 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 -108 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>962</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Colorado Rockies
J. Fogg

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+120 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -102 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>963</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Francisco Giants
B. Zito

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -169 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 -111 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>06:40 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>964</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Arizona D-Backs
D. Davis

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +159 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-135 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 +101 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>965</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Pittsburgh Pirates
I. Snell

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -154 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+157 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 7 -107 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>966</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Diego Padres
C. Young

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +144 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 7 -103 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>967</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Detroit Tigers
N. Robertson

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -110 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>09:05 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>968</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cleveland Indians
C.C. Sabathia

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +118 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-173 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 +100 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>969</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Seattle Mariners
F. Hernandez

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -105 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>12:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>970</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Oakland Athletics
D. Meyer

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -138 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+122 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -105 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>973</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Baltimore Orioles
B. Burres

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 +146 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+270 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10.5 -110 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>974</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Yankees
A. Pettitte

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 -156 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-300 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10.5 +100 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>975</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Boston Red Sox
C Buchholz

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +145 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-121 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>976</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Toronto Blue Jays
J. Litsch

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -155 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+113 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -116 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>977</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago White Sox
J. Contreras

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -173 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +100 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>978</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Kansas City Royals
B. Bannister

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +163 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-136 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -110 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>979</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Texas Rangers
V. Padilla

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +110 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>980</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Minnesota Twins
M. Garza

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +155 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-135 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -120 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>12:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Detroit at Cleveland
Home Plate Umpire: Darling, Gary

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>N Robertson
C Sabathia
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>3:35 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Seattle at Oakland
Home Plate Umpire: Holbrook, Sam

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>

F Hernandez
D Meyer
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>3:35 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at LA Angels
Home Plate Umpire: Runge, Brian

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
J Howell
E Santana
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Baltimore at NY Yankees
Home Plate Umpire: Fletcher, Andrew

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
B Burres
A Pettitte
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:07 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Boston at Toronto
Home Plate Umpire: Hickox, Ed

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
T Buchholz
J Litsch
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chi. White Sox at Kansas City
Home Plate Umpire: Hoye, James

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
J Contreras
B Bannister
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Texas at Minnesota
Home Plate Umpire: Dimuro, Mike

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
V Padilla
M Garza
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>NY Mets at Washington
Home Plate Umpire: Fairchild, Chad

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>M Pelfrey
M Chico
Bullpen Availability

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:35 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Florida at Atlanta
Home Plate Umpire: Iassogna, Dan

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>

D Willis
C James
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Milwaukee at Houston
Home Plate Umpire: Tschida, Tim

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
D Bush
J Gutierrez
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cincinnati at Chi. Cubs
Home Plate Umpire: Marquez, Alfonso

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
T Shearn
T Lilly
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Philadelphia at St. Louis
Home Plate Umpire: Montague, Ed

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
J Moyer
A Wainwright
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:35 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>LA Dodgers at Colorado
Home Plate Umpire:Cederstrom, Gary

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
B Penny
J Fogg
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>9:40 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>San Francisco at Arizona
Home Plate Umpire: Barrett, Ted

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
B Zito
D Davis
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Pittsburgh at San Diego
Home Plate Umpire: Everitt, Mike

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
I Snell
C Young
Bullpen Availability


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 9/19</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>951</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Mets
M. Pelfrey

</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +117 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-138 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +102 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>952</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Washington Nationals
M. Chico

<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+130 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -112 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


After 2 slugfests, why is the over 9 1/2 AND plus money? With these 2 bums pitching?
 
I'd say in part because Wash has a decent under record for home games, and the pecentages for them reeling off an all-Over home series simply arent there - they have 1 all-Over 3 game series vs another NL team this season, their very first (vs Florida).
 
I think Shields and Willis are both not pitching. Puhols was a pinch hiter, Edmonds out and Pence did not play for the Astros.
 
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AMERICAN LEAGUE - all stats based on opening lines
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Oakland is 3-1 SU off consecutive home losses since the AS break.

Oakland is O/U 9-1-1 at an average of 12.27 runs their last 11 games.

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Seattle is O/U 15-6 at an average of 11.09 runs their last 21 games.

10 of Seattle's last 13 road wins have been by 3+ runs.

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Toronto is 3-5 SU at home vs Boston this season (having lost both previous Game 3s there).

Toronto is U/O 6-2 at an average of 7.62 runs at home vs Boston this season

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Boston is U/O 7-2 at an average of 8.00 runs their last 9 instances of playing a road game off a loss.

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18 of the Yankees last 21 home wins have been by 3+ run margins.

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Baltimore is O/U 18-7-2 at an average of 13.15 runs their last 27 games.

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The Angels are 0-4 SU off their last 4 instances of consecutive wins.

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Kansas is 3-7 SU off their last 10 wins.

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The CWS are 1-10 SU their last 11 instances of playing a road game off a road loss.

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Cleveland is 1-3 SU & 0-4 on the runline their last 4 home Game 3s.

Cleveland is 3-4 SU off their last 7 instances of consecutive wins.

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Detroit is O/U 4-2 at an average of 10.16 runs in their 6 wins over Cleveland this season.

Detroit is 7-3 SU off their last 10 losses.

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Minnesota is 8-3 SU off their last 11 wins.

Minnesota is 5-10 SU their last 15 home games.

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Texas is 5-14 SU their last 19 road games vs teams not from Baltimore.

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NATIONAL LEAGUE - all stats based on opening lines
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11 of the Cubs last 14 home losses have been by 3+ runs.

The Cubs are 11-3 SU off their last 14 losses.

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Cincinnati is 10-4 SU off their last 14 wins.

Cincinnati is 2-5 SU their last 7 road Game 3s.

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Saint Louis has seen the Favourite go 16-4 SU in their last 20 games.

Saint Louis is 1-12 SU their last 13 games.

Saint Louis is O/U 8-3-3 at an average of 11.64 runs their last 14 home games vs teams not from Chicago.

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Philadelphia has averaged 8.16 runs in their last 12 wins (scoring less than 5 just once), as opposed to averaging 3.41 runs in their last 12 losses.

Philadelphia is 24-13 SU off a win since the AS break.

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Houston is 16-14 SU in Under results vs 9-20 SU in Over results, since the AS break.

Houston is 11-6 SU their last 17 home games off a home loss.

Houston is 6-1 SU their last 7 home Game 3s.

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9 of Milwaukee's last 11 road wins have been by 3+ run margins.

Milwaukee has managed 1 sweep in their 19 completed series since the AS break (and that was at home).

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The Mets are 2-8 SU off their last 10 losses.

The Mets are O/U 5-2 at an average of 14.14 runs off their last 7 losses (lowest total of 7 runs).

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San Diego is 10-2 SU the last 12 home games they opened as the Favs in.

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The Dodgers are 2-16 SU in the last 18 instances they were held to 4 runs or less.

The Dodgers last 9 wins have been by 3+ runs.

The Dodgers have gone 36 games without a road team winning one of their games by a 1-2 run margin (Home teams 12-0 SU in 1-2 run games during this period).

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Colorado is 0-6 SU off their last 6 instances of 3 straight wins.

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Arizona is 2-5 SU their last 7 instances of playing off a win that followed a loss (L->W->x)

Arizona is O/U 6-1 at an average of 11.28 runs off shutting a team out then facing that same team in their next game, this season. Their only Under result went under by 1 run.

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San Francisco is 2-8 SU their last 10 road games, after going 7-3 SU their 10 road games previous to that.

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Atlanta is 1-6 SU off their last 7 instances of 3 straight wins.

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Florida is 0-22 SU when held to 3 runs or less since the AS break.

Florida is O/U 10-5-1 at an average of 11.37 runs in their last 16 road games.

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You gotta like Detroit I think. Even though it's big CC on the mound for the Indians, the Tigers gotta muster something. Thoughts?
 
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