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<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=wht-title bgColor=#16177c><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD noWrap>Run Line</TD><TD noWrap>Money Line</TD><TD noWrap>Total Runs</TD><TD>More </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>901</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Arizona D-Backs
D. Davis



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -177 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+116 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>902</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Florida Marlins
S. Mitre



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +167 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-124 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -104 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>903</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Mets
J. Maine



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +109 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-146 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +100 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>904</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Pittsburgh Pirates
M. Morris



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -119 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+138 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -110 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>905</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Philadelphia Phillies
K. Kendrick



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +145 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-112 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>906</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Washington Nationals
T Redding



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -155 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+104 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -104 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>907</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Francisco Giants
R. Ortiz



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 +102 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+222 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -109 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>908</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Atlanta Braves
T. Hudson



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 -112 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-240 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -101 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>909</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -161 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+134 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +109 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>910</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Milwaukee Brewers
Y. Gallardo



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +151 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-142 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -119 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>911</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cincinnati Reds
P. Dumatrait



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+180 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>912</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-191 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>913</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Colorado Rockies
U Jimenez



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -131 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+180 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 7.5 -106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>914</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Diego Padres
C. Young



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +121 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-188 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 7.5 -104 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>915</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Houston Astros
J. Jennings



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -137 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+171 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 7.5 -124 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>916</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Los Angeles Dodgers
B. Penny



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-179 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 7.5 +114 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>917</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Tampa Bay Devil Rays
A. Sonnanstine



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 +115 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+235 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 +100 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>10:05 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>918</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Boston Red Sox
D. Matsuzaka



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 -125 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-255 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 -110 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>919</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Baltimore Orioles
E. Bedard



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -157 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+131 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -105 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>10:05 AM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>920</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Yankees
P. Hughes



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +147 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-139 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -105 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>921</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Minnesota Twins
S. Baker



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -174 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+121 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 -119 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>01:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>922</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Seattle Mariners
J. Washburn



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +164 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-129 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 +109 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>923</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Detroit Tigers
J. Jurrjens



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -120 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+176 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 -112 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>924</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cleveland Indians
F. Carmona



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +110 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-184 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 +102 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>925</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>LAA Angels
D. Moseley



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -168 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+118 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 -104 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>926</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Toronto Blue Jays
S. Marcum



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +158 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-126 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -106 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>927</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Kansas City Royals
G. Meche



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -220 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-119 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 10 -106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:35 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>928</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Texas Rangers
V. Padilla



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +200 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+111 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 10 -104 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Wed 8/15</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>929</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago White Sox
M. Buehrle



</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -214 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+106 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 +104 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>930</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Oakland Athletics
J. Blanton



<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +194 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-114 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 -114 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ff0000><TD class=sports-label colSpan=3>Wednesday, Aug 15</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>1:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Baltimore at NY Yankees
Home Plate Umpire: Wegner, Mark



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
E Bedard
P Hughes
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>1:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at Boston
Home Plate Umpire: Schrieber, Paul



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>
A Sonnanstine
D Matsuzaka
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>4:35 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Minnesota at Seattle
Home Plate Umpire: Barksdale, Lance



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>S Baker
J Washburn
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Detroit at Cleveland

Home Plate Umpire: Bucknor, C.B.



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Jair Jurrjens
F Carmona
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:07 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>LA Angels at Toronto
Home Plate Umpire: Kellogg, Jeff



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>D Moseley
S Marcum
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:35 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Kansas City at Texas
Home Plate Umpire: Welke, Bill



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>G Meche
V Padilla
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Chi. White Sox at Oakland
Home Plate Umpire: Dreckman, Bruce



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>M Buehrle
J Blanton
Bullpen Availability



</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Arizona at Florida
Home Plate Umpire: Drake, Rob



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>D Davis
S Mitre
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Philadelphia at Washington
Home Plate Umpire: Layne, Jerry



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>K Kendrick
T Redding
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>NY Mets at Pittsburgh
Home Plate Umpire: Nauert, Paul



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Maine
M Morris
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:35 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>San Francisco at Atlanta
Home Plate Umpire: Carlson, Mark



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>R Ortiz
T Hudson
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cincinnati at Chi. Cubs
Home Plate Umpire: Wendelstedt, Hunter



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>P Dumatrait
T Lilly
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>St. Louis at Milwaukee
Home Plate Umpire: Eddings, Doug



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Pineiro
Y Gallardo
Bullpen Availability




</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Colorado at San Diego
Home Plate Umpire: Iassogna, Dan



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>U Jimenez
C Young
Bullpen Availability



</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:10 PM ET</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Houston at LA Dodgers
Home Plate Umpire: Hoye, James



</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Jennings
B Penny
Bullpen Availability



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Blue Jays look very tempting tomrorrow. Dustin has been getting dusted lately boasting a 9.35 ERA in his last 4 games. On the other hand, Marcum has been domoniating with a 40 record 2.36 ERA. Blue Jays have won 7 out of 8 times vs the angels at home. Great stats....so what gives??
 
Marcum has a 6.03 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, over his last 6 home starts. He's been much more impressive over his last 6 road starts by comparison (1.49 ERA, 0.87 WHIP)
 
Braves and the OVER... Russ Ortiz is back.. this guy has made me more money than any other pitcher.. I'll fade him every chance i get
 
all stats based on opening lines

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Houston enters Wednesday's game vs LA having won 3 straight games following a loss, for the 9th time this season. Following their previous 8 instances, they are 2-6 SU, conceding an average of 7.00 runs to their opponents (pretty much explains the SU record, and their O/U 6-2 mark, for said games).

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Favourites are 11-2 SU in LAA's last 13 games.

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Through their last 28 games, the losing team in Toronto's contests have only once scored more than 4 runs (and then, 5). The losing team averages 1.89 runs in these games, which explains TOR's U/O 22-6 mark - losing teams simply arent contributing anywhere near their share to Toronto's totals.

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Colorado averages 5.42 team runs the game after being shut out this season.

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San Diego is 5-4 SU, U/O 5-4, conceding an average of 3.44 runs, at home off shutting a team out this season.

San Diego is 7-3 SU, U/O 5-4-1, conceding an average of 3.70 runs, off a win by 7 or more runs this season.

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San Fran's last 8 road losses have been by 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2 & 1 run margins.

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In going 1-8 SU in their last 9 home games, the Cleveland Eskimos cold bats have averaged 2.55 runs/game, while they've conceded an average of 5.22 runs/game.

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I am beginning to like Baltimore +131

Boston/TB -- this is the 3rd time TB has faced Dice-K this season. Will the third time be a charm? It was brought to my attention that teams get to Dice-K the 2nd and 3rd time playing him. I'm trying to convince myself on the TB ML but something about putting money on Sonnanstine and the TB pen screams "don't"
 
They can't make the Cubbies line expensive enough tonight...

Reds are just a flat joke vs the crafty type lefties (ala Moyer, Lilly, etc)

Reds have five hits in 13 inns off Lilly this year w/ an eye popping 19 K's...
 
Blue Chip, IMO a team like Tampa is good for 1 or 2 winning efforts on the road at a venue like Fenway (or the Bronx, etc). Whether they actually win with such efforts doesnt matter to me, its whether the effort was there. I'd say I've seen such efforts in both the games played so far in this series. So from my POV, I don't expect to see a 3rd straight, and the fact the pitching mismatch on paper plays into such an expectation is simply coincidence. No matter what was on paper, I'd hold the same perception.
Their previous visit to Boston was the same: 1st 2 games lost 1-4 & 5-7, 2 decent efforts which at least could have yielded 1 win. Then a more typical effort from them came forth in the last game, losing 4-15. (Further example? latest series at the Bronx: won 14-4, lost 3-7 (the 2nd hardly a non effort)... then lost game 3: 5-17, & game 4: 4-21).
They dont have the resources, or fortitude, to sustain "winning efforts" on the road against teams of this calibre, unless something is internally wrong with that opposing team, injuries/conflict/meltdown mode, none of which are present with the RSox. While they did go 2-2 in Detroit recently, and in both their losses might have stolen wins, Detroit was dealing both injuries and a meltdown mode.

Thats my take.
 
TB +1.5 would be the only play but no way in hell would I take TB with their history in Boston or against Boston. I believe TB has packed it in. Just watching the 1st two games was enough for me. They have aenough young talent but lack the pieces to the puzzle. Bet is right when he says this team has no "fortitude". Add to the fact that the Yanks are on Boston's ass and it seems like TB is a no play. I love playing big dogs but this is not one of them. The way baseball has been watch TB win 5-3. lol
 
nice hit, Blue Chip. I'm not about to change my "template" that I expounded on (since it's stood the test of time), but I have to give credit to Tampa for such an effort.
 
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