Wednesday 12.09.15 NBA discussion thread

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The Spurs can suck my manhood
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Locked in Pistons for 1.5 units
Really hate to bet early but------this seems very lucky
 
Pinnacle took this game off the card for now, due to Gasol's injury, that didn't sound too serious. If Gasol plays, not sure how much value in Pistons as favorites you got here mate...
 
few years ago, prime time games were on thursdays right (with 2 games on board). how do we know when a game is a nationa tv/prime time game?
When it's broadcast on abc? ESPN? TSN? TNT? sportsNet?
 
hey nba...i'm curious...when you say strong line for the heat does that mean that you think that the heat should be more of a fav or less or that the line is right on?

early leans to

char...very good home team...mia 2-3 in only 5 road games this year
c's....much better defensive team
spurs...fade me
majic...current form very good
jazz....couldn't have been more wrong last night...should have listened to the board....knicks starting to look like the knicks

work to do but maxed out today....back later
 
Don't like this card too much.
Bulls are the first obvious option. Boston rarely win a team that doesn't make many turnovers (1 - 6 this season) and 8 of their wins are against the most prone turnovers teams in the league.

Maybe Over in Utah. This team plays crazy pace with Gobert injured...
 
As for Charlotte, 9 - 3 at home, losing only to GSW, Cleveland and Hawks in the beginning of the season. ATS wise, in those losses, they lost by a point to Cleveland (should have won ATS), pushed against the Hawks and got rolled by the Warriors, but the whole league is getting rolled by them... Wouldn't hurry to bet against them in Charlotte.
 
Pinnacle took this game off the card for now, due to Gasol's injury, that didn't sound too serious. If Gasol plays, not sure how much value in Pistons as favorites you got here mate...

This would be a joke right:cigarguy:
 
Very unfunny. I just took a look at the refs.
Danny Crawford pretty good
Ben Taylor
pretty bad
Michael Smith Satan on Earth home favorites 1-10
So why did I play Detroit last night.
I saw Gasol might not play.
Detroit has won and covered 5 in a row at home
3 of those were on Wednesday
Memphis as a dog this year is 1-7 SU and 2-6 ATS 2-9 last 11
If you go to their game logs what you see after they get smashed is that if they are favored they usually smash weak teams. This has altered. The last 2 times the dog covered. third time the dog did not cover 4th time the dog did cover.
When they have been dogged after getting smashed their record is
Lose at Utah, cover at Clippers, fail at home vs Portland
This team has learned a bitter truth. They simply can not compete with quality teams and Detroit has a long memory and hates them
 
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Had Bulls lined up as a decent play, then I saw the spread.

Line should be 1.5 max. Pass.
 
hey nba...i'm curious...when you say strong line for the heat does that mean that you think that the heat should be more of a fav or less or that the line is right on?


I saw the line at heat -1.5 and i thought that was the opening number but I believe it opened at PK. When I say strong line, i essentially mean that I think the linemakers are tipping their hand. Kind of the opposite line of thinking of most bettors though.
 
Not a pick yet. But leaning to under in Bulls at Boston.
Still thinking about this but Bulls will want a low tempo with Clippers tomorrow. Boston not sure they cooperate but they have GS coming in in 2 days. Just a lean now.
 
Two dogs have interest off the top.
Atlanta
Orlando.
Suns generally do very well vs teams playing b-b but here despite that Orlando really is playing with superior rest. No action yet on either. If Tyson plays which is apparently possible all bets are off
 
Suns under?
Killersports has a 11-0 trend for the Suns under since Jan 30 2015. Recent trends like this are very strong.
Some lean to Miami today
 
Agree. The refs favor home teams. Boston has lost 3 bad games to the Bulls including a 16 point game at home. We are talking triple revenge. Play Bulls if you like to lose. They understand the situation. They play all out at Celtics they are very unlikely to survive the Clippers. Boston or Nothing as a side here.
The last 13 times the Bulls have played at home on Thursday they are 12-1.
Lose at home to the Clippers. Have not played Boston yet but I will.
 
hey nba...i'm curious...when you say strong line for the heat does that mean that you think that the heat should be more of a fav or less or that the line is right on?


I saw the line at heat -1.5 and i thought that was the opening number but I believe it opened at PK. When I say strong line, i essentially mean that I think the linemakers are tipping their hand. Kind of the opposite line of thinking of most bettors though.
Trend wise its Miami for sure. On top of everything else they play at the Pacers next where they almost never win. They are playing off 1 day rest where they are 10-4 and this season they have NEVER lost consecutive games. Score it
 
The truth is Toronto is probably a play as well. In that last game the Spurs shot 61.8% and 81% on 3's.
Toronto is 7-0 ATS against over 500 teams this year. May or may not play this. Still looking at it.
This season Toronto is 5-0-1 ATS on Wednesday
16-4 ATS at home on Wednesday.
ATS the Spurs after a 20+ plus game win are 3-3 ATS this year
By the way I am having second thoughts about Atlanta
 
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Agree. The refs favor home teams. Boston has lost 3 bad games to the Bulls including a 16 point game at home. We are talking triple revenge. Play Bulls if you like to lose. They understand the situation. They play all out at Celtics they are very unlikely to survive the Clippers. Boston or Nothing as a side here.
The last 13 times the Bulls have played at home on Thursday they are 12-1.
Lose at home to the Clippers. Have not played Boston yet but I will.

Can't agree there. The difference between 2nd and 9th place in the East is one game!!! That's amazing! Eastern teams should really be concerned now with winning each other...
Anyway, I took the Bulls. IF they lose, double up on them tomorrow against the Clips. If they lose again... Let's hope not :)
 
Big line movement in Dallas. Suddenly they are dogs at home against the Hawks...
 
hey nba...i'm curious...when you say strong line for the heat does that mean that you think that the heat should be more of a fav or less or that the line is right on?


I saw the line at heat -1.5 and i thought that was the opening number but I believe it opened at PK. When I say strong line, i essentially mean that I think the linemakers are tipping their hand. Kind of the opposite line of thinking of most bettors though.

got it. thanks nba
 
Not a pick yet. But leaning to under in Bulls at Boston.
Still thinking about this but Bulls will want a low tempo with Clippers tomorrow. Boston not sure they cooperate but they have GS coming in in 2 days. Just a lean now.

to add to this thought process....boston's fastest games are when the other team is turning over the ball, they are slower on def rebounds where they tend to walk it up...if bulls do not turn over the ball much then it stands to reason that the game will have less shots taken
 
Laker game looks like an under. This is a game I doubt they care about. The game they care about is at the Spurs. The game MInn cares about is at Denver Too many plays right now.
 
c's bulls game a head scratcher....turnover angle has me worried about c's winning but watching both teams play it just seems to me that the bulls are missing something....not sure if it's chemistry,spark or what but it seems to me like the intensity of the c's will be the difference in this game....if bulls get out big quickly they may pull it off but if it's close for a couple quarters or so i think the c's will pull away....but not super confident
 
the warriors are going to stomp boston....c's probably know this but maybe their ego's are so big that they think they can compete....they can't, nor can they even come close...so if i'm the c's i am leaving it all on the court tonight....they do that anyway i believe....but not sure if this is their thought process
 
Lakers
Lineup 12/9
Jordan Clarkson PG
Lou Williams SG
Kobe Bryant SF
Larry Nance PF
Roy Hibbert C
 
Tyson Chandler (hamstring) has been ruled out for Wednesday's game against the Magic.

Tiago Splitter (hip) will be available to play Wednesday against the Mavericks.

Nene (calf) will not play, Drew Gooden (calf) will remain sidelined, Kris Humphries will not play


Dwight Howard will play Wednesday

Luol Deng will come off the bench Wednesday
 
it sucks that boston has GS coming in but I don't see how Stevens lets these guys look past the bulls
 
Made the bets I mentioned. Regarding Divol's remarks. He could be right. Trouble is he essential always wants to bet against Portland and frequently Boston so--really do not want to heard it.
If I lose with Detroit because of the Ref do I really want to hear random remarks. Not really. When he actually posts with reasoning and facts that will Change
 
Couple of thoughts:

rose use has no explosiveness anymore
bulls offense is ugly..
Heinsohn is completely unlistenable
 
Not a good spot for Dallas schedule wise. Dirk said the team is looking forward to being home for an extended time finally. Not something I like hearing. The Mavericks seem to be pretty awful at home. Must be something about the city really (Cowboys)
 
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DJ just totally facialized Monroe.

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Made the bets I mentioned. Regarding Divol's remarks. He could be right. Trouble is he essential always wants to bet against Portland and frequently Boston so--really do not want to heard it.
If I lose with Detroit because of the Ref do I really want to hear random remarks. Not really. When he actually posts with reasoning and facts that will Change
I really don't always want to bet against Boston. I have no problem with Portland, but my opinion of them and bookies opinion are different, so yeah, I bet a lot against them. As for Boston, the number of times I bet on them is about the same as the number of times I bet against them this season.
 
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