Tuesday 03/18/14 NBA discussion thread

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The Spurs can suck my manhood
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Miami Heat[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-9 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+9 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Toronto Raptors[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-2.5 1.926[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]04:35 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Atlanta Hawks[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+2.5 1.980[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-1 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Sacramento Kings[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+1 1.952[/TD]
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I like the Wizards here as well, especially since I see no real reason for Kings to try too hard.
 
Toronto on the road on Tuesday

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[TD="width: 100%"]TORONTO IS 7-3 SU AND 8-1-1 ATS IN THESE GAMES.[/TD]

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[TD="width: 10%"]DATE[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]HOME[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]PTS[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]AWAY[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]PTS[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]SU RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]H LINE[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]ATS RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]O/U[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]O/U RESULT[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]02/25/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]CLE[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]93[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]99[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]193[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]02/18/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]93[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-2½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]196½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]01/07/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]IND[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]86[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]79[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-9[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]187[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]12/31/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]CHI[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]79[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]85[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]186½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]12/03/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]GS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]112[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-8[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]201[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]04/16/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]96[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]113[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]196[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]04/09/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]CHI[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]98[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]101[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-3½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]185[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]02/19/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]WAS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]88[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]96[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-3[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]190½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]01/15/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]BKN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]113[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]106[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-7[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]P[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]189½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]12/18/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]CLE[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]99[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]113[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]189[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

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Atlanta at home on Tuesday

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[TD="width: 100%"]ATLANTA IS 2-8 SU AND 1-9 ATS IN THESE GAMES.[/TD]

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[TD="width: 10%"]DATE[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]HOME[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]PTS[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]AWAY[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]PTS[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]SU RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]H LINE[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]ATS RESULT[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]O/U[/TD]
[TD="width: 10%"]O/U RESULT[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]02/25/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]103[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]CHI[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]107[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]189½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]02/04/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]85[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]IND[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]89[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]3½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]200½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]12/10/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]92[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]OKC[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]101[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]3½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]204[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]11/26/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]92[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ORL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]109[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-7½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]199½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]04/16/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]96[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]TOR[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]113[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-5[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]196[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]05/08/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]BOS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]86[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]-2[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]175½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]05/01/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]80[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]BOS[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]87[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]-4½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]172½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]04/24/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]109[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]LAC[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]102[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]193½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]04/05/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]90[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]SAN[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]97[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]194½[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData1, width: 10%"]U[/TD]

[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]03/22/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]ATL[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]81[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]CHI[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]114[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]181[/TD]
[TD="class: AlternatingData2, width: 10%"]O[/TD]

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i believe Lowry is ? for tonight's game vs the hawks - will probably have to wait until game time to see if he is going to play
 
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[TH="class: statistics_cellrightborder statistics_cellbottomborder"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: statistics_cellrightborder statistics_cellbottomborder"]Injury[/TH]
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[TD="class: otherStatistics_table_alternateRow statistics_cellrightborder, bgcolor: #FFFBF0"]03/17/14[/TD]
[TD="class: otherStatistics_table_alternateRow statistics_cellrightborder, bgcolor: #FFFBF0, align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="class: otherStatistics_table_alternateRow statistics_cellrightborder, bgcolor: #FFFBF0"]Kyle Lowry[/TD]
[TD="class: otherStatistics_table_alternateRow statistics_cellrightborder, bgcolor: #FFFBF0"]Illness[/TD]
[TD="class: otherStatistics_table_alternateRow statistics_cellrightborder, bgcolor: #FFFBF0"]is upgraded to probable Tuesday vs. Atlanta[/TD]
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[TD="class: statistics_table_row statistics_cellrightborder"]03/10/14[/TD]
[TD="class: statistics_table_row statistics_cellrightborder, align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="class: statistics_table_row statistics_cellrightborder"]Patrick Patterson[/TD]
[TD="class: statistics_table_row statistics_cellrightborder"]Elbow[/TD]
[TD="class: statistics_table_row statistics_cellrightborder"]out indefinitely[/TD]
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^
appreciate that... just keep an eye on it close to starting time,,seems the last few weeks players have sat at the last minute...
 
I took Toronto -2 and Wizards -1 when I had the chance. Hawks play 3 game in 4 days and the only good team they won, were the tired Cats, whom they won the last 11 games in a row.
Toronto 3 - 1 ATS playing on the road, off a home loss, after day's rest or more (the only loss was by one point).

Kings are 0 - 5 ATS last 5 home games as dogs. Wizards one of the best road teams in the league ATS wise and won the 5 out of 6 road games SU (lost only to Heat in Miami).
Resting Cousins agaisnt Minny shows that Kings maybe have little tanking in mind.
 
TOR-3 1 unit:Play On - Road favorites (TORONTO) average defensive team (43.5-45.5%) against a poor defensive team (45.5-47.5%) after 42+ games
156-90 over the last 5 seasons. ( 63.4% | 57.0 units )
21-7 this year. ( 75.0% | 13.3 units ) + Atlanta in B2B

WAS-1 1 unit: SAC 1st game back off BC's 7 game road trip to eastern conference, might be tired, WAS has 2 days rest and is very good on the road. WAS is 22-11 ATS on the raod and 12-4 ATS on the road vs sub 0,500 teams +NBA | WASHINGTON at SACRAMENTO
Play Against - Any team vs the money line (SACRAMENTO) poor defensive team - shooting pct defense of >=46% on the season, averaging 53 or more rebounds/game on the season
191-87 over the last 5 seasons. ( 68.7% | 67.6 units )
88-56 this year. ( 61.1% | 18.0 units )

MIL +12,5 1 unit:
MIL covered 4 of last 6 games ATS, has revenge vs POR, Por in 2nd game back off 5+ game trip, letdown after 1 pt loss vs GS, Plus getting 12,5 pts vs a POR team who averages more than 100 pts on defense@home is clearly EV+. Por without Aldridge and williams injured.

ORL +13 1 unit:
revenge season loss for ORL. ORL has not lost by more than 12 pts over last 5 losses. ORL has 3 days rest. GS just outscore opponents by 5,5 pts as a double digit fav this season while ORL just lost by 5,5 pts as a 10 pts++ dog this season.
 
Took also couple of unders: MIL-POR under 208, TOR-ATL under 200:NBA | TORONTO at ATLANTA
Play Under - All teams where the first half total is 100.5 to 105 in a game involving two good offensive teams (98-102 PPG) after 42+ games, after allowing 120 points or more
29-8 since 1997. ( 78.4% | 20.2 units )
and GS-ORL: Under 202
 
DOn't know what to do with MIA-ATL: i see many contrarian angles /trends for both teams. just passing on this one might be the "right side" lol
 
BC's Stats for Sac/wiz favor the Kings ... FWIW

then there is - Wizards 15-2 ATS on the road off a home game.
 
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Eric Lewis reffing in Sacramento equates to a blind bet on the Over.

Dude is 41-13 to the Over and hemorrhages foul calls like no-other.
 
who has the refs trends for tonight's games?

Not mine - from another forum.
Looking for the best ref trends for each of tonight's games....

Miami at Cleveland: (Mia -9.5 and 196) Road teams are 29-16 ATS with Eric Dalen this season, including 8-5 ATS as favorites. Road teams are 32-24 ATS with Zach Zarba this season, including 16-6 ATS as favorites. Miami has basically neutral ATS records with these refs, but Cleveland has done poorly with them. Miami is 5-5 ATS with Dalen and 4-4-1 ATS with Zarba. Cleveland is 2-8 ATS with Dalen and 2-6 ATS with Zarba.

Toronto at Atlanta: (Tor -3 and 200) Road favorites of fewer than 5 points are a strong 13-3 ATS with Derrick Collins and 8-2 ATS with Jason Phillips this season. Some mixed numbers in the team-specific trends.

Milwaukee at Portland: (Port -12.5 and 207.5) Several conflicting trends with this crew. Tre Maddox is 2-13 o/u with totals higher than 205 points, but Portland is 7-2-1 o/u with him. Double-digit road dogs are 4-1 ATS with J.T. Orr this season, but Milwaukee is on a 0-6 ATS run with him.

Washington at Sacramento: (Wash -1.5 and 201.5) Eric Lewis is 41-13 o/u this season, including 18-4 o/u in games with totals between 195 and 205 points. Washington is 4-2 o/u with Lewis, and Sacto is 4-1 o/u with him. The other two refs, Bennett Salvatore and Marat Kogut, have solid leans to the Over overall this season, but both have neutral records with totals in this range. Sacto is 5-4 o/u with Salvatore and 7-2 o/u with Kogut. Mixed ATS trends with these refs.

Orlando at Golden State: (GS -12.5 and 202.5) Neutral and conflicting trends with this crew.
 
usually when a key player is missing in team's first game without him totals tend to move down buy finish over the total.
Don't understand why line is increasing in GS-ORL total?
 
^
Yup that is what i was looking for...thank you

on a side note- scares the shit of me that every trend points to the plays i like...
 
What a spot for the BUCKS. Portland playing 2nd game off a 5 game road trip, AND B2B check BC's thread. Will post in my thread as well.
 
only thing that's prevent me from betting over in WAS-SAC is previous meeting (177 pts scored this season) 24 pts under today's total. So i will pass on this total instead of "forcing a play". But just can't take the under with the refs in this match up
 
What a spot for the BUCKS. Portland playing 2nd game off a 5 game road trip, AND B2B check BC's thread. Will post in my thread as well.

that's what i mention in my analysis, but a bit scared, nearly all the lines in bets i took today are moving against me and in long run we all know closing are the true spreads/odds
 
that's what i mention in my analysis, but a bit scared, nearly all the lines in bets i took today are moving against me and in long run we all know closing are the true spreads/odds

i value opening lines much more than closing lines
 
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7:00 PM


521 Miami Heat
522 Cleveland Cavaliers
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24%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 73%
27%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 52%
48%
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -9
195.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -10.5-110
194u-103
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -11
194
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -11
194
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -11
194
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] -10.5
195o-106/+102
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -11
194
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -11
194.5
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7:30 PM


523 Toronto Raptors
524 Atlanta Hawks
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23%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 64%
36%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 51%
49%
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1.5
202
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3-108
201u-104
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3
200.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3
200.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3
201
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] -3-103/+102
201o-104/+100
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3-115
200.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -3
200.5
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3/18

10:00 PM


525 Milwaukee Bucks
526 Portland Trail Blazers
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[TD="class: pct"] 35%
65%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 43%
57%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 42%
58%
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207
-11.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207o-110
-13
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207.5
-12.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 208
-12.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207.5
-13
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] 207o-107/+103
-13+103/+103
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207.5
-13
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 207.5
-13
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10:00 PM


527 Washington Wizards
528 Sacramento Kings
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[TD="class: pct"] 76%
24%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 77%
23%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 60%
40%
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1
202
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1-103
201u-103
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1
201
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1
201
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1
201
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[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] -1-107/-111
201o-104/+100
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1.5
202.5
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] -1
201.5
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10:30 PM


529 Orlando Magic
530 Golden State Warriors
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66%
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[TD="class: pct"] 44%
56%
[/TD]
[TD="class: pct"] 71%
29%
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 201.5
-12.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5u-102
-13-112
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5
-13
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5
-13
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5
-13.5
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook_full"] 204.5o-103/+101
-13-108/-108
[/TD]
[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5
-13
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[TD="class: sportsbook"] 204.5u-105
-13
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Breaking it down simply - opening lines are what the bookies think, closing lines are what the gamblers think (barring late withdrawals, of course).

Generally prefer to side with the books if I can.
 
Breaking it down simply - opening lines are what the bookies think, closing lines are what the gamblers think (barring late withdrawals, of course).

Generally prefer to side with the books if I can.

You really don't think the public moves the lines do you? That's why all your big books open with lines for very small limits until they're hammer by the sharps then later the limits get large.
 
No, not entirely but I value the publics' perception (sharps included). Money moves lines, 1 dude or 20.
 
@nbafan and @emkee: Well that's interesting because used to read everywhere that in long run if you are able to win 0,5 pt or 1 pt by line shopping over closing line you should end up long term winner. Well, if line and closing line is due to sharp action despite 75% of Joe public bets, i value more the closing one, but like you mention if public is moving the line in his direction (squares) prefer opening line as a decent public fade. Emkee: most of the time, lines put by book are what they think but not everytime. if a Laker-warriors should deserve a 205 pts according to their handicapping methods/database, they are more likely to open the ltotal at 207,5 pts or something like that cause they know most of public bets are going to land on the over on a lakers match up, so basically they are betting against the public with a nice edge in their favor in addition to the juice they take
 
I'm strictly a 'side' guy, Edou1x. Haven't played a total since 2005 and in-case it's mistaken I value the closing line over the opening line when it comes to sides.
 
I never pay any attention to the lines, but it's a known fact that beating the closing line in a long term = profit.

I never care about the line, mostly because we never know who moves it, why it moves and so on.

Trying to read in to it, it's just like a coin flipping in my eyes.

I wouldn't be surprised to know that bookies move it sometimes, just to throw people off...

Many times I see Pinnacle, one of the largest in the game, bookie, not moving the line, but rather lower odds. You can see as a default option, Team A -5,5 for 1.80 odds or even lower.

In such cases btw, I do think that bookies choose side as they tempt you with the lower line, because they think that the other side has value (or they got too much action going the other way and want to balance things - but usually it's not a good idea not to move lines in such case).
 
With all due respect that's insane. Beat the closing line long term win money long term that's a fact not an opinion.

with all due respect, that's not my capping style whatsoever

i don't make my own lines and try to find the edges based on what the actual lines are.... sometimes the whole premise results in completely opposite plays from those that look for "value" or whatever you want to call it

there are many different angles and such that I use, i guess you can label it situational handicapping.... all this beating the line stuff is nonsense to me... especially in pro sports where the linemakers know more about the matchups than all of us combined.... thats my view on it
 
the heat line is very strong....

cleveland coming home from a successful three game wc road trip....

[h=2]HEAT AT CAVALIERS, 7 P.M. ET[/h] March 18, 2014 · 6:26PM
TV: League Pass

  • Heat small forward LeBron James is making his second visit to Quicken Loans Arena this month. “The Chosen One” was an invited guest for Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ jersey retirement ceremony on March 8, which he watched from the Cavaliers’ bench, alongside former teammates Daniel “Boobie” Gibson and Delonte West. “That was uncharted territory because I didn’t sit on the bench much when I was here,” James quipped. “But I understood how important that night was for ‘Z’, and it couldn’t have happened to a better person.”
  • During his pregame press conference, James also was asked if he had any interest in returning to play for Cleveland. The four-time NBA MVP spent his first seven seasons with the Cavaliers before signing with Miami as a free agent in July 2010. “For right now, it’s too hard for me to think about that,” said James, who can opt out of his Heat contract following this season. “For me to try and take my mind somewhere else is almost impossible, knowing what we have ahead with the playoffs.”
  • Heat center Greg Oden will make his second straight start as coach Erik Spoelstra attempts to get the 7-footer ready for the postseason. “Greg has done everything he can do off the court, but there is no way to simulate what game action is like,” Spoelstra said. “This also guarantees Greg some minutes and cleans up a lot of things in our rotation.” In two previous starts, the oft-injured Oden averaged 2.5 points and 5.5 rebounds in 13.0 minutes.
  • Miami shooting guard Dwayne Wade (rest) was a late scratch as Spoelstra opted to give him the night off. Wade has played in 48 of the Heat’s 64 games this season, averaging 19.4 points and 4.9 assists.
  • Cavaliers shooting guard Dion Waiters returns to the starting lineup – filling in for All-Star point guard Kyrie Irving (left biceps strain) – while Jarrett Jack shifts from shooting guard back to the point. Irving, who will miss at least two weeks, was injured Sunday when he fell to the floor following a hard collision with Clippers center DeAndre Jordan during Cleveland’s 102-80 road loss.
  • The Cavaliers will only have 11 players in uniform as small forward Luol Deng (left ankle sprain), rookie power forward Anthony Bennett (left patellar tendon strain), and rookie shooting guard Carrick Felix (left patellar stress fracture) are also out. Shooting guard C.J. Miles (left ankle sprain) and rookie point guard Matthew Dellavedova (left ankle sprain) are both active and available.
– Brian Dulik
 
season = 2013 and AF and p:L and total >= 198 and playoffs = 0
SU:64-13 (7.70, 83.1%)
ATS:54-21-2 (3.08, 72.0%) avg line: -4.6
O/U:45-32-0 (2.03, 58.4%) avg total: 206.6

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[TD="class: TSN1b, width: 100%, align: center"]Atlanta at home vs any opponent in any month on Tuesday[/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/25/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Chicago[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]103-107[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+2 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189.5 [/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/04/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Indiana[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]85-89[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 199.5 [/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]12/10/2013[/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]92-101[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 203.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/26/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]92-109[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-7.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 199.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 195.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. LA Clippers[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]109-102[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-1.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 193 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/05/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. San Antonio[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]90-97[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+5.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 194.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/22/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Chicago[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]81-114[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+4 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 182 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]03/15/2011[/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]110-85[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-5.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 173.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+4.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 183 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 192 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]116-101[/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-6 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 185.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-10 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-12 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 202 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-8.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 200 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-88[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-11.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 193.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]04/15/2008[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]105-121[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-1 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 204.5 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]118-135[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-2 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 221 [/TD]
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[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]90-94[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+4 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]P [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 182 [/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 100%"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 100%"] [TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Records[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Points[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Straight Up: 7-13
Against the Spread: 5-14-1 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Home PF - 1951 (97.6)
Home PA - 2035 (101.8)
Away PF - 0 (0.0)
Away PA - 0 (0.0) [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
 

<tbody>
[TD="class: TSN1a, width: 100%, align: center"]Head-to-Head Search Result(s)
[/TD]

</tbody>

<tbody>
[TD="class: TSN1b, width: 100%, align: center"]Toronto away vs any opponent in any month on Tuesday[/TD]

</tbody>

<tbody>
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 100%, align: left"] [/TD]

[TD="width: 100%"]

<tbody>
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 12%"]Date[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 25%"]Opponent[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]Score[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]SU[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]Line[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]ATS[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 10%, align: center"]O/U[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/25/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Cleveland[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-93[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-4 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 193 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/18/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]103-93[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+2.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 196.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]01/07/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Indiana[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]79-86[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+8.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 187 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]12/31/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Chicago[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]85-79[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-1 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 186 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]12/03/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Golden State[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]103-112[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+8 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 201 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]04/16/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Atlanta[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]113-96[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 195.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/09/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Chicago[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]101-98[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 185 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/19/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]96-88[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+3 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 190.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]01/15/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Brooklyn[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]106-113[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+7 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]P [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]12/18/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Cleveland[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]113-99[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]11/27/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Houston[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]101-117[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+6 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 203 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/20/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]98-106[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 183.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]11/13/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Indiana[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]74-72[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+9 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 185.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/06/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Oklahoma City[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]88-108[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+8.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 197 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]03/20/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at New York[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]87-106[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+8.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 199.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/13/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Cleveland[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]96-88[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 195 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/28/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Houston[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]85-88[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+10 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 190.5 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]01/24/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at Phoenix[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]99-96[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+5.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]01/10/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]at Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]78-93[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+2 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 184 [/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]04/05/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]at New York[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]118-131[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+9.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 221 [/TD]

</tbody>
[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 100%"] [/TD]

[TD="width: 100%"]

<tbody>
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Records[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Points[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Straight Up: 10-10
Against the Spread: 12-7-1 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Home PF - 0 (0.0)
Home PA - 0 (0.0)
Away PF - 1922 (96.1)
Away PA - 1962 (98.1) [/TD]

</tbody>
[/TD]

</tbody>
 
def helps the milwaukee play....

[TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1a, width: 100%, align: center"]Head-to-Head Search Result(s)
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1b, width: 100%, align: center"]Portland at home vs any opponent in any month on Tuesday[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 100%, align: left"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 100%"] [TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 12%"]Date[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 25%"]Opponent[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]Score[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]SU[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]Line[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 8%, align: center"]ATS[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 10%, align: center"]O/U[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/11/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Oklahoma City[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]95-98[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-1 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 211 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]01/28/2014[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Memphis[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]81-98[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 198 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]11/05/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Houston[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]101-116[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-1.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 207.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/12/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Memphis[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]97-102[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+1.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 187.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/19/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Phoenix[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]98-102[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-6.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 193.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]01/29/2013[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Dallas[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]106-104[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-3 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 203 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]03/27/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Oklahoma City[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]95-109[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+4.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 198 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/20/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Milwaukee[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]87-116[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-3.5 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]U 206.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]02/21/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. San Antonio[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]137-97[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-4 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/14/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]109-124[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-15 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 193.5 [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 100%"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 100%"] [TABLE="width: 100%"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Records[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 50%"]Points[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Straight Up: 2-8
Against the Spread: 1-9 [/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 50%"]Home PF - 1006 (100.6)
Home PA - 1066 (106.6)
Away PF - 0 (0.0)
Away PA - 0 (0.0) [/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]
 

I'm not trying to argue just a discussion and we're all entitled to look and play as we wish. But I've been in this business all my life and been in Las Vegas for almost 35 years that in itself doesn't mean I'm always right but in this game of sports betting your looking for CLV over long term. I've seen players bet 10k on a side and the line didn't move and then watch a guy come in and bet $2500 and the line moves a point. John Q follows but doesn't move numbers.

There's a reason why Cris and Pinny and sharp books will take $500 on an opening line and once it's hammer into place the limits go through the roof. Do you really believe that these books survive on there opening numbers. Enjoyed the discussion guys and I'm not here to cause problems or tell anyone what to do so please don't take it that way were on the same side as far as winning money. Good Luck to all I really enjoy this thread and I apologize for taking the thread off track a bit.

Good Luck let the games begin.
 
no thats not what we are saying... we are saying that the opening number is what incorporates all the knowledge that the books know... the closing number is based on a multitude of factors

books dont just open lines without knowing all the factors necessary

if the opening number didnt matter, why isnt tomorrows magic/suns line out yet when all other lines are out?
 
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