To win series: Thunder -350. Timberwolves +280
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Timberwolves vs. Thunder Series Discussion Thread
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skanless13
Fly, Eagles, Fly!
This going at least 6 right?
DOUBLEUP4LIFE
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Nuggets roster was a mash unit with a HC who barely got his feet wet and they still took OKC to 7 ...
Don't discount the NBA and the networks wanting SGA and Anthony Edwards to be part of the next mega superstar group ...6 games is highly likely , 7 is their wet dream
Don't discount the NBA and the networks wanting SGA and Anthony Edwards to be part of the next mega superstar group ...6 games is highly likely , 7 is their wet dream
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I have been thinking about this series a bit today, and in all honesty, I need to see some tape first before any wagers come into play...
This feels like a defensive series, though -- game #1 could be a feeling out event, and that UNDER 216 would be my only lean and initial stalk on the live betting market.
This feels like a defensive series, though -- game #1 could be a feeling out event, and that UNDER 216 would be my only lean and initial stalk on the live betting market.
If I am doing the math correctly..
Anthony Edwards shot 24-66 in the 4 game season series vs Minnesota.
I'm not trying to over handicap the regular season. Why? Because these teams were done with the season series with several days left in February.
In fact, these two teams played 3 times between February 13th (last game before the ASG) and February 24th.
OKC only had the break and a road game in Utah during that stretch.
My big thing with Minnesota is that the team we are seeing in these playoffs is the one that finished 17-4 the last 5-6 weeks of the season. The Ant Man we are seeing is the one that calmed down and wasn't as inconsistent in that same stretch as the other 75% of the season beforehand.
That's how I'm trying to analyze Minnesota -- the last 32 games.
The most memorable regular season matchup was the final one, an OT thriller. That was a wild Minnesota 41-19 fourth to tie it and eventually win in overtime. I remember that one well -- I either lost or won on that game (lol).
Anthony Edwards shot 24-66 in the 4 game season series vs Minnesota.
I'm not trying to over handicap the regular season. Why? Because these teams were done with the season series with several days left in February.
In fact, these two teams played 3 times between February 13th (last game before the ASG) and February 24th.
OKC only had the break and a road game in Utah during that stretch.
My big thing with Minnesota is that the team we are seeing in these playoffs is the one that finished 17-4 the last 5-6 weeks of the season. The Ant Man we are seeing is the one that calmed down and wasn't as inconsistent in that same stretch as the other 75% of the season beforehand.
That's how I'm trying to analyze Minnesota -- the last 32 games.
The most memorable regular season matchup was the final one, an OT thriller. That was a wild Minnesota 41-19 fourth to tie it and eventually win in overtime. I remember that one well -- I either lost or won on that game (lol).
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
Yeah... a series that is best to see teams first... Agree also that Under or nothing probably this series.
Game over.
Huge, HUGE credit to OKC staff and adjustments at HT.
They flipped the script on Julius and Ant Man in the 2h....
OKC efficient from 3.
Minnesota wildin from 3.
Both teams have great length. The OKC length won out over 48 mins.
Just typical OKC.
Lastly, SGA is a great frickin player. The SM slander is hilarious. Give it up simps.
KJ
Minister of Communication
Wasn't aware but it would be silly to say I'm shocked. So enjoyable avoiding that trash...and that includes any show involving sports debate as well.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
No real opinion on side, I think both series starting to look like gentleman’s sweeps to me but not willing to bet wolves, they are really just outclassed imo. Okc defense is the huge difference imo, they the best defending the 3 point line and still great taking away the paint cause the 2 tall white boys! Just think they too much, I laid it both games in okc, I just can’t bet against thunder right now. I def expect we see Ant best game, but I don’t trust Randle, Naz has been freaking horrific from 3, that been going on most these playoffs, without him burying corner 3s he worthless. McDaniels the only minny player I trust outside ant and ant hasn’t exactly been a model of consistency. If they gonna take one this prob it but I’ll just roll w the props.
KJ
Minister of Communication
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I went back like 4 games and he hadn’t hit 1 trey in any of them, that shooting 5-7 a game! It’s awful. Without him and the spacing he provides pulling one those bigs out the paint it making it really hard on everyone else. Randle really picked on old, bad, short handed defenses the last 2 series, I just don’t believe in him vs this okc team defense. If they gonna win a game I do think this be it and think it take ant having a monster game. I hope he does and they make it 2-1 cause then im pounding thunder games 4 and 5! Getting little confidence back taking thunder the 1st 2 of series, it’s like those 8 points didn’t mean shit!
Of course I took it up the ass on Knicks last night, cost me a few nice parlays, why the fuck didn’t tibs call time out and get a good shot? That last shot was garbage! I did hit all my props tho. Thanks to Siakam being the sole reason for pacers winning. The other guys stayed under and Robinson was a racing machine again. Feeling like both these series end up 4-1.
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
Yeah, but I assume if we check any team in the league today, 3 point % decides a lot and would have similar % (compared to each record overall obviously)...
Teams that catch a decent night behind the arc usually beat a team that have a bad night jacking three pointers...
2daBank
Voice of Reason
And thus the problem for me trying to figure nba out anymore, lol
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
My problem is that I feel that the coaches in the league forgot how to use real Centers on both ends of the floor. Gobert is catching so much heat, but he is super solid. They simply don't use him correctly. Under today's coaches and style, Shaq wouldn't have seen a minute on the floor...
Adams, Gobert, Robinson - you see the impact they bring. They change how the other team plays on offense and they are constant rebound threat under other team's rim, making it so much harder to go on fast breaks, yet so little respect.
Why? Because teams too often forget that coaching shouldn't be only about auto-switches on defense. That would leaves big guys guarding quick small players... I hate auto switching. Fight through screens, play zone, bring help, but it's annoying sometimes to see that one team can do the same play 4-5 times in a row and get the same match up...
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
I hate screens in general. No one is ever set and the game wasn’t designed to have a dozen if not more screens every possession.
NBA quick fix is screens need to be established for a full 2 seconds and can’t be done outside of the arc.
It would bring the big man back from not having to guard all of these silly screens. If you can’t separate to get your own shot then dump it into the paint and play inside out.
Screens have really ruined the NBA
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Never heard this take, not sure I agree but it interesting. Being someone who usually needed a screen to get to rim it hard for me to sign off on that! Lol. I do agree they get away with not being set to often but in general I think the problem is defensive players unwillingness to fight thru them and as @divol said all the damn switching cause everyone hunting 3s so coaches feel the need to switch everything. There only a handful of guys I’m worrying bout taking 3s off the bounce, outside those guys I don’t get why switch and have a guard putting your big on skates? It not like Brunson or the majority these guys getting the screens are gonna kill you w 3s they not even looking for them usually they doing it cause they know they will get the switch over and over to get the matchup they want. Call me crazy but if I know why they doing something I’m not gonna give it to them!
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
I don’t think basketball was intended to see 6 back screens and players running marathons each game. Fighting over a screen is one thing but why didn’t this happen in the MJ era? Because you could simply hand check the ball handler off his spot on the screen. But these guys need to be set like Malone was for Stockton. You need to know it’s coming and it should be so set that the defense can talk about it each time. They need to do something to encourage more paint play. Screens are where I’d look.
divol
The Spurs can suck my manhood
No rest for the wicked
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Makes sense, I miss hand checking, I could have never played one the guard positions without it!! I’m with you we prob get far more screens than needed all in a effort to get the switch they want, which again kinda falls back on how they coaching defense and all the switching, I doubt we would see that many screens per possession if they wernt all being switched and I agree they should be required to be set which I’m pretty sure is the rule, they just seem pretty loose in enforcing it. I certainly didn’t need 3 different screens when I was playing guard, I just needed one and then I put my head down and went to the rack! Or if was playing one the front court spots I wasn’t setting a bunch, one for ball handler then I roll or pop out for the the J. I was a big fan of setting them off ball on baseline to free a guy but again it 1 screen and go, not multiple in an effort to get a slow guy guarding a quick one.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
As much I’d like to see both teams actually bring the d tonight I still lean over several guys props. Almost impossible not to like Randle over 18.5 points, outside his awful gm2 in okc he has cleared this in all but 2 playoff games! Obviously the difference being the 1st 2 rounds he was facing old, short, slow teams! That said he has cleared this pretty easy in 2 of the 3 in this series. Right or wrong think this a must.
I wanna go back to the Mcdaniels point prop ov 12.5 also, lost it last game but had the game not been another garbage blowout where he sat last few minutes of the 3rd and entire 4th he most likely hits.
After his worst performance of playoffs it tough not to like SGA even at 31.5 isn’t it? Playing this one would totally contradict my feeling both play good d tonight but I’m still tempted. I don’t think McDaniel going over in particular would mean no defense, it actually might be the contrary.
I wanna go back to the Mcdaniels point prop ov 12.5 also, lost it last game but had the game not been another garbage blowout where he sat last few minutes of the 3rd and entire 4th he most likely hits.
After his worst performance of playoffs it tough not to like SGA even at 31.5 isn’t it? Playing this one would totally contradict my feeling both play good d tonight but I’m still tempted. I don’t think McDaniel going over in particular would mean no defense, it actually might be the contrary.
Screens create confusion, meant to get mismatches. I coach a top high school team in the state and we run cross screens, down screens, back screens ,double screens and every other screen you can think of. Slipping the screen has become a big part of the game now at every level. Defensively we switch everything so screens dont bother us.
KJ
Minister of Communication
They are probably why I'm much more interested in NBA than in the past but then I was a guard that needed screens to get shots. Sometimes multiple screens. I absolutely despise one on one basketball which, again, is probably why I enjoy the game more today at the pro level than in the past. Also why I really don't enjoy watching KD play even though he's been a sun. Bores the shit out of me. Need ball movement.
Inspekdah
My man, Michael Jordan!
They can’t influence this style anymore. Smart to not let it influence. But just funny no rest for Scott
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