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VirginiaCavs

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Jul 24 Sun 2022

12:05 PM
901Chicago CubsD. Smyly -L+1½
-155		+122O 9½
-125
902Philadelphia PhilliesB. Falter -L-1½
+135		-132U 9½
+105
01:35 PM
903Miami MarlinsS. Alcantara -R-1½
+100		-169O 7½
-105
904Pittsburgh PiratesM. Keller -R+1½
-120		+156U 7½
-115
01:35 PM
915Toronto Blue JaysR. Stripling -R-1½
+100		-144O 11
-115
916Boston Red SoxB. Bello -R+1½
-120		+133U 11
-105
01:35 PM
917New York YankeesN. Cortes -L-1½
-110		-171O 9½
-108
918Baltimore OriolesD. Kremer -R+1½
-110		+157U 9½
-112
01:35 PM
929Los Angeles AngelsR. Detmers -L+1½
-120		+173O 9
-110
930Atlanta BravesI. Anderson -R-1½
+100		-188U 9
-110
01:40 PM
905St. Louis CardinalsM. Mikolas -R-1½
+115		-130O 10
-105
906Cincinnati RedsT. Mahle -R+1½
-135		+120U 10
-115
02:10 PM
907Colorado RockiesC. Kuhl -R+1½
-120		+173O 9
-105
908Milwaukee BrewersE. Lauer -L-1½
+100		-188U 9
-115
02:10 PM
923Cleveland GuardiansS. Bieber -R+1½
-175		+115O 7½
+100
924Chicago White SoxD. Cease -R-1½
+155		-125U 7½
-120
04:07 PM
925Texas RangersM. Perez -L-1½
+130		-122O 8
+100
926Oakland AthleticsP. Blackburn -R+1½
-150		+112U 8
-120
04:10 PM
909San Francisco GiantsA. Cobb -R+1½
-118		+183O 7½
-115
910Los Angeles DodgersC. Kershaw -L-1½
-102		-199U 7½
-105
04:10 PM
927Houston AstrosF. Valdez -L-1½
+155		-108O 7
-120
928Seattle MarinersR. Ray -L+1½
-175		-102U 7
+100
07:08 PM
913San Diego PadresJ. Musgrove -R+1½
-205		+103O 7½
-125
914New York MetsC. Carrasco -R+1 Markets-1½
+175		-113U 7½
+105
 
Ryno14 said:
Need @2daBank late night thoughts like I need water
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Sorry man, I just been kinda bummed since last dr visit and my eye not seemingly getting any better. Couldn’t muster the desire to put enough work into it for a few days and didn’t want to post shit that I didn’t give my best effort to. I did end up making a couple plays yesterday and today.
 
Dean Kremer ov 3.5 k’s +105., I was thrilled to get this number on him: he has solid swing and miss stuff and yanks not above striking out a bunch, really just comes down to him being good enough to go 4-5 innings, long as he doesn’t get run early I don’t think he have much problem fanning 4+ and great price imo. After I bet him it did go to -115 but I still think that fine, that actually where he opened and I had wrote down, apparently his under just took some early money which doesn’t worry me any, lessor known guy and going against the most popular team.

Rangers Ff -.5 ev., don’t wanna have anything to do with rangers pen but think this a good price to back who I think the better pitcher who matches up better vs lineup he facing: our guy @Vap'sBack always talks up Blackburn road splits and his last start at texas wasn’t really good, so expect they give Perez enough support to cash this in Oak where he hasn’t been as strong for whatever reason: this the kind of game Perez should give his team a great chance to win if he is that guy (even tho for my money Gray is rangers ace, doesn’t mean Perez hasn’t been fantastic).

Fish/pirates Ff u3.5 -105. Thought we would have to pay more juice on this, little question alcantara will do his think and hold pirates to 0-1 run thru 5, he has no problem w lefties. Really comes down to trust in keller and you guys know I like him, he has been really good recently and I’m just gonna trust he keeps it going, watch out for this kid if he gets traded to a good team w a good staff!!

Lyles ov 15.5 outs +125.. I didn’t dig in real deep on this one but I know he good enough to pitch 5+ innings with minimal damage vs this milw lineup, another great price imo, I think he has at least a 50% chance of surpassing this number:,
 
VANGIO said:
under Again San Diego/ NY Mets
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I went Carrasco over 4.5 k’s to cap few 2 teamers (cause over was -160), def like both pitchers but think pads a fairly easy team to rack up the struck outs against, don’t think they gonna run him early, he has a swinging strike percentage upwards of 13%, against a team w decent amount of swing and miss this number shoulda been 5.5 imo so just thought this play held the most Value but I like musgrove also and agree w under.
 
VirginiaCavs said:
Let me try to summon him…he‘s disappeared from us lately
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I’ll push thru and start trying to post stuff again, just got little down after last dr visit and couldn’t muster the will to cap them properly. Kinda annoyed cause Friday I just skimmed card and coulda easily had winning day, I just don’t like betting my money or suggesting plays to you all without doing the proper work, not fair to anyone!! Im done being a vagina for now, no more pity party so I’ll be back at it: if I skip a night just give me little slack, shit frustrating when the vision not getting better and dr’s have nothing encouraging to say, just that I had to pay bunch of money for more stupid drops cause too much pressure on my eye!! Im just ready to start seeing some progress or hear some kinda good news!! They could at least lie!! Lol

It did make me feel good when you text me @Ryno14 post last night, so thanks for that guys!!
 
2daBank said:
Dean Kremer ov 3.5 k’s +105., I was thrilled to get this number on him: he has solid swing and miss stuff and yanks not above striking out a bunch, really just comes down to him being good enough to go 4-5 innings, long as he doesn’t get run early I don’t think he have much problem fanning 4+ and great price imo. After I bet him it did go to -115 but I still think that fine, that actually where he opened and I had wrote down, apparently his under just took some early money which doesn’t worry me any, lessor known guy and going against the most popular team.

Rangers Ff -.5 ev., don’t wanna have anything to do with rangers pen but think this a good price to back who I think the better pitcher who matches up better vs lineup he facing: our guy @Vap'sBack always talks up Blackburn road splits and his last start at texas wasn’t really good, so expect they give Perez enough support to cash this in Oak where he hasn’t been as strong for whatever reason: this the kind of game Perez should give his team a great chance to win if he is that guy (even tho for my money Gray is rangers ace, doesn’t mean Perez hasn’t been fantastic).

Fish/pirates Ff u3.5 -105. Thought we would have to pay more juice on this, little question alcantara will do his think and hold pirates to 0-1 run thru 5, he has no problem w lefties. Really comes down to trust in keller and you guys know I like him, he has been really good recently and I’m just gonna trust he keeps it going, watch out for this kid if he gets traded to a good team w a good staff!!

Lyles ov 15.5 outs +125.. I didn’t dig in real deep on this one but I know he good enough to pitch 5+ innings with minimal damage vs this milw lineup, another great price imo, I think he has at least a 50% chance of surpassing this number:,
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Yes.
I'd wager Blackburn on the road before him @ home. His last start, that you brought up, was after he heard he made the all star roster. Started that game poorly but settled down. My thought is always... will the A's do enough to score runs, which they tend to have problems doing sometimes this season.
 
Vap'sBack said:
Yes.
I'd wager Blackburn on the road before him @ home. His last start, that you brought up, was after he heard he made the all star roster. Started that game poorly but settled down. My thought is always... will the A's do enough to score runs, which they tend to have problems doing sometimes this season.
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Oh yea, now that you mention I recall you saying you wouldn’t have messed w if you realized he just named to all star. If memory serves me right he settled down and was fine after poor early start. Still like seeing rangers hit him, don’t think they need but 2-3 runs amd expect that be enough for Perez to get the 1st 5 cash!!!
 
gotta think perez comes up w big performance against a lineup he shouldn’t have problems w and his team needing to avoid the sweep.
 
2daBank said:
I’ll push thru and start trying to post stuff again, just got little down after last dr visit and couldn’t muster the will to cap them properly. Kinda annoyed cause Friday I just skimmed card and coulda easily had winning day, I just don’t like betting my money or suggesting plays to you all without doing the proper work, not fair to anyone!! Im done being a vagina for now, no more pity party so I’ll be back at it: if I skip a night just give me little slack, shit frustrating when the vision not getting better and dr’s have nothing encouraging to say, just that I had to pay bunch of money for more stupid drops cause too much pressure on my eye!! Im just ready to start seeing some progress or hear some kinda good news!! They could at least lie!! Lol

It did make me feel good when you text me @Ryno14 post last night, so thanks for that guys!!
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Sorry things aren’t getting better yet, man. Hang in there. I know you got this. I hope you know I was just rustling your jimmies.
 
Late to post as I’m on my annual summer casino tour trip with my dad, but I grabbed a bad Smyly # +105. Also took Kremer +160. Likely another add or two. Do like Carassco tonight.
 
Yesterday was a lot better day for pitcher props. I ended up going 3-1 but didn’t post cause didn’t have energy to write out and didht cap them properly, just went off feel and memory! fucking Quintana cost me the 4 for 4, prick had 4 k’s in 3 innings or so, just needed 1 more, pitched 7 innings but never got the 5th punch out vs fish who fan redic amount vs lhp. Annoyed me cause his pitch count was plenty low they coulda let him pitch 8th!! I was super confident in that one and turned out to be only loser! Go figure! Lol.
 
Ryno14 said:
Sorry things aren’t getting better yet, man. Hang in there. I know you got this. I hope you know I was just rustling your jimmies.
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No I appreciate it brother. It motivates me to do it knowing you guys get something out of the post!!
 
I know it only been 2.5 weeks since the surgery and they said 4-6 weeks to hopefully get the vision back,,, but fuck, this started 2 weeks before the surgery so I been blind in the one eye for a month now, just taking it’s tole at times!! Then they can’t even be bothered with the guy who did surgery taking any his precious time so I get stuck w some other prick kid not making me feel any better!!
 
Ryno14 said:
Late to post as I’m on my annual summer casino tour trip with my dad, but I grabbed a bad Smyly # +105. Also took Kremer +160. Likely another add or two. Do like Carassco tonight.
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I woulda played Kremer/o’s ml If I didn’t like his k number so much. Freaking Cortes a nightmare for me so rather avoid having to figure out his line! Kinda goes hand in hand, if Kremer beats yanks he def have 4+ k’s imo! Yanks pen all a sudden been showing some cracks lately so hopefully O’s can get him out the game. I was thinking they can hit cortes but then I saw he has fanned a ton of O’s in a earlier start this year and also in previous year. Worried me a bit.,almost wEnt cortes ov 5.5 k’s but I do think there a chance balty gets to him!!!
 
Wow. Scrubbies/Phillies one those series I say gotta be careful, sure as hell didn’t expect scrubbies to sweep these guys!! Lol
 
I was super torn between just playing Alcantara or the Ff under. Feel like even tho he pitched the 1 inning in ASG This kinda one those Alcantara starts w little extra rest where he been straight up dominant. As I said the FF under really comes down to my belief in keller and not wanting to lay a big number or runs against him. He could go back to shit but he could also keep this 0-0 or 1-1 thru 5! Alcantara over 20.5 outs should be good also but the juice got bet up higher than I wanted before I could play it.
 
I don’t think it a coincidence keller has gotten much better the closer we get to trade deadline, you know he dying to get traded to a contender! Or at least a team with a coaching staff who can get most out of him! Man I’d love to see cardinals go get him but I dunno if pirates will to trade in division! Proper coaching and I think keller turns into a legit 2-3 starter with upside! Hell his arm talent good enough I think he could get turned into a Cole or Glastnow!! Remember how bad Glastnow was as a pirate? Lol.

Cards strengthen their rotation and that lineup is good enough to compete and beat any team in playoffs imo, their pitching just isn’t good enough as is!! It’s unfortunate I don’t trust them to make any moves outside washed up retreads, if someone told me they would go get a keller and one other legit starting pitcher I’d say they be a great future bet!! Can’t trust them to make any impact moves tho!! They more likely to try and get a Grienke!! Lol
 
Cards have tons of young big league ready talent, not to mention they could sucker someone into taking Liberatore who still holds ton of value but these clowns will refuse to deal him and watch his stock plummet next 2 years!! Can’t believe they thought they were gonna get a big time cost controlled pitching prospect from tampa who worked out!! Rays don’t stay competitive making bad trades!! Our depth insane w emergence of all these youngsters! We don’t have room for them all, this the time to trade from position of strength to go get some front end pitching, or at least front end potential like keller! Him or Castillo would make my day but it never happen.
 
Keller looked fantastic in 1st. Usually can tell quickly with him, could be in for a classic pitching duel with him and Alcantara!!

Kremer with a 10 pitch 1st and 1k.
 
Alcantara strikes out side in 1st. All a sudden my guy has jumped up another level now become a guy striking out way more like you would expect! Was surprised his k’s were only 5.5 but won’t matter long as Ff under cashes!
 
Damn. Can’t believe O’s let Cortes off the hook that inning, they really needed to cash in at least 1 run there.


Cmon guys, I’m back ready to watch and talk the games. Nobody else?!?? Lol
 
Cortes gonna hit his k prop. Kremer better get his cause I leaned Nestor also. Still baffles me how Cortes gets so many swings and misses!!
 
This ump squeezing Kremer on a couple pitches and he still fanning guys! Cmon ump, missed 2 blatant k’s!
 
2daBank said:
Cmon guys, I’m back ready to watch and talk the games. Nobody else?!?? Lol
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Love watching Saratoga this time of year and learned real quick I can't juggle bases and horses on Sundays. Too many games starting at the same time. At least they get spread out on Saturdays.
 
KJ said:
Love watching Saratoga this time of year and learned real quick I can't juggle bases and horses on Sundays. Too many games starting at the same time. At least they get spread out on Saturdays.
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I enjoy watching pony’s but I don’t know how to profit off them and this bout money so all baseball for me! Lol.

Cash Kremer ov 3.5 k’s! So lovely he got bet to plus money before I hit him!!
 
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Dunno why I didn’t bet reds Ff. I know they hit Mikolas. Only problem was mahle off IL but expected he be good,
 
Wow. Goldsmidt remains on fire. It gonna really piss me off if cards don’t go get pitching at deadline cause this the best offense we have had in a decade!!!
 
Another incredible performance by keller so far. At the moment we at the 1-1 I predicted!! Just need Sandy to get 3 outs to cash Ff under!
 
Unreal. Reds exposing no yadi at catcher. 1st and 3rd 2 outs and 1-2 count and they able to sucker cards catcher into throwing to 2nd and letting man on 3rd score while guy stealing 2nd in rundown. Eat the ball and let Mikolas get out the inning, can’t be handing over free runs down 5-2!
 
Awesome start for rangers spotting Perez 3 runs! Hopefully he can make that hold for 5 innings!!

Man I all a sudden got my driving mojo back, at bout 2:45 decided I wanted to get down on Kershaw ov 6.5 k’s and snakes 1st 5 over tt so I flew back to casino!
 
Damn. Kershaw throwing a ton of pitches, he does got 3k’s thru 2 innings but he gonna need a couple real efficient innings or he won’t go past the 5th
 
Ryno14 said:
Late to post as I’m on my annual summer casino tour trip with my dad, but I grabbed a bad Smyly # +105. Also took Kremer +160. Likely another add or two. Do like Carassco tonight.
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Same with Kremer I like Carrasco k’s more than betting Mets. I could see him getting in little trouble or musgrove out dueling him but pretty confident he fans 5+. Kremer was really good till those b2b jacks, wasn’t bad but just didn’t get any help. He cashed his k’s easy tho, I thought 3.5 was stupid low for him., I just don’t like betting against or on Cortes, that dude tough for me to figure out! O’s let him off the hook in Bottom 2nd then of course that when Kremer gives up his runs in next half inning, never fails. Gotta cash in your chances!!
 
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