Saturday Discussion/Thoughts

[reNew Orleans]

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan="7" class="blk-title">MLB Baseball - Sat 8/4</td> </tr> <tr class="wht-title" bgcolor="#16177c"> <td colspan="3">Game</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Run Line</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Money Line</td> <td nowrap="nowrap">Total Runs</td> <td>More </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">951</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Colorado Rockies
U Jimenez</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -125 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+177 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">952</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Atlanta Braves
T. Hudson</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +115 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-185 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -115 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">953</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">New York Mets
J. Maine</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-104 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 12:55 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">954</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-104 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">955</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Houston Astros
J. Jennings</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -147 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+143 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 -105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">956</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Florida Marlins
S. Mitre</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +137 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-151 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -105 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">961</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -201 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+103 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 -108 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">962</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Washington Nationals
J. Hanrahan</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +183 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-111 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 -102 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">963</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">San Francisco Giants
P. Misch</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -175 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+123 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8.5 -105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 07:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">964</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">San Diego Padres
C. Hensley</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +165 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-131 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8.5 -105 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">965</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Arizona D-Backs
L. Hernandez</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -141 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+165 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8 -107 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 07:10 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">966</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Los Angeles Dodgers
D. Lowe</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +131 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-173 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8 -103 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">967</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Texas Rangers
K. Loe</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -128 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+166 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +106 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 10:05 AM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">968</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Toronto Blue Jays
S. Marcum</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +118 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-174 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -116 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">969</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Kansas City Royals
K. Davies</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 +110 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+214 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 11 -105 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 10:05 AM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">970</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">New York Yankees
P. Hughes</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 -120 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-232 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 11 -105 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">971</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">LAA Angels
K. Escobar</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +126 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-130 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8 +100 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 12:55 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">972</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Oakland Athletics
J. Blanton</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -136 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+122 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8 -110 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">973</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Chicago White Sox
J. Vazquez</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -156 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+137 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 -110 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">974</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Detroit Tigers
J. Bonderman</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +146 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-145 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 +100 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">975</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Baltimore Orioles
B. Burres</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -168 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+126 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9 +106 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 04:10 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">976</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Tampa Bay Devil Rays
S. Kazmir</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +158 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-134 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9 -116 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">977</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Cleveland Indians
A. Laffey</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -179 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+113 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 9.5 +111 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#d0d0d0"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 12:55 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">978</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Minnesota Twins
M. Garza</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +169 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-121 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 9.5 -121 </td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> Sat 8/4</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">979</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Boston Red Sox
D. Matsuzaka</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> -1.5 +122 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">-140 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> OVER 8.5 +102 </td><td rowspan="2" align="center" valign="middle">
</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> 07:05 PM</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">980</td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">Seattle Mariners
J. Washburn</td><td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> +1.5 -132 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap">+132 </td> <td class="main_body_blk" nowrap="nowrap"> UNDER 8.5 -112 </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table bordercolor="#cccccc" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ff0000"><td colspan="3" class="sports-label">Saturday, Aug 4</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb"> American League </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Time</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Game</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Starters</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">1:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kansas City at NY Yankees
Home Plate Umpire: Jerry Meals
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kyle Davies
Philip Hughes
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">1:07 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Texas at Toronto
Home Plate Umpire: Greg Gibson
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kameron Loe
Shaun Marcum
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">3:55 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Cleveland at Minnesota
Home Plate Umpire: Ron Kulpa
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Aaron Laffey
Matt Garza
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">3:55 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> LA Angels at Oakland
Home Plate Umpire: Ed Hickox
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Kelvim Escobar
Joe Blanton
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Chi. White Sox at Detroit
Home Plate Umpire: Tim Tschida
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Javier Vazquez
Jeremy Bonderman
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:10 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Baltimore at Tampa Bay
Home Plate Umpire: Chuck Meriwether
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Brian Burres
Scott Kazmir
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">10:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Boston at Seattle
Home Plate Umpire: Mike Everitt
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Daisuke Matsuzaka
Jarrod Washburn
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb"> National League </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Time</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Game</td> <td class="small-copy-sans" bgcolor="#ffdccb">Starters</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">3:55 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> NY Mets at Chi. Cubs
Home Plate Umpire: Tim McClelland
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> John Maine
Ted Lilly
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Philadelphia at Milwaukee
Home Plate Umpire: Andy Fletcher
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Cole Hamels
Jeff Suppan
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Colorado at Atlanta
Home Plate Umpire: Tom Hallion
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Ubaldo Jimenez
Tim Hudson
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
Home Plate Umpire: Chad Fairchild
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Aaron Harang
Matt Morris
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Houston at Florida
Home Plate Umpire: Hunter Wendelstedt
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Jason Jennings
Sergio Mitre
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">7:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> St. Louis at Washington
Home Plate Umpire: Mike Winters
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Joel Pineiro
Joel Hanrahan
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">10:05 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> San Francisco at San Diego
Home Plate Umpire: Derryl Cousins
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Patrick Misch
Clay Hensley
Bullpen Availability </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="small-copy-sans">10:10 PM ET</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Arizona at LA Dodgers
Home Plate Umpire: Lance Barksdale
</td> <td class="small-copy-sans"> Livan Hernandez
Derek Lowe
Bullpen Availability</td></tr></tbody></table>
rayer

 

[t-dot]

will jump on the Phillies at whatever line once it gets posted.

 

[B.A.R.]

Well..local thoughts.

I really was tempted to take CWS last night. Miller throws great for a few innings then makes a couple mistakes. I mean last night he had some good stuff then some wildness and a few oung pitcher moments. I was a bit afraid of how we handled Mark last time and with Sheff's status unknown I layed off.

I like Bondy to really come back in good style tomorrow. Vazquez was good last week against us but I think we can get to them. Bondy has to be embarrassed right now and he will shake it off. Not sure if I will play it but would lean that way slightly.

 

[Blue_Chip]

I like Garza tomorrow, and STL at a coin flip

 

[BetCrimes1984]

I like Over in Toronto.

Ump is nice (low SO/BB ratio, 9-5 to Over for totals 9.0 or higher), Loe is a lefty on a slide & the Blow Jays love their lefties, & Marcum has a dodgy home ERA (4.58 - last 4 home starts all Over). Texas has only seen Marcum in relief this season (3 ERs in 2.0 innings, 13.50 ERA).

Meetings between these teams are 5-3 to Under on the season, but Texas has started a righty every time.

 

[tuck321]

Washington in a blowout. The battle is Sunday. GL

 

[tuck321]

First half bet on Anaheim ml.

 

[Satyr]

Early leans (may or may not be plays):

Seattle +130
Minnesota -121

 

[Man on Fire]

I like Over in Toronto.

Ump is nice (low SO/BB ratio, 9-5 to Over for totals 9.0 or higher), Loe is a lefty on a slide & the Blow Jays love their lefties, & Marcum has a dodgy home ERA (4.58 - last 4 home starts all Over). Texas has only seen Marcum in relief this season (3 ERs in 2.0 innings, 13.50 ERA).

Meetings between these teams are 5-3 to Under on the season, but Texas has started a righty every time.

M. Wood pitching for K.Loe today

 

[tuck321]

I believe he would be pitching on 2 days rest having pitched 8 innings on the first at 3a Fresno.

 

[JPicks]

I believe he would be pitching on 2 days rest having pitched 8 innings on the first at 3a Fresno.

Yep. He threw 81 pitches on August 1st. Can't imagine that's going to turn out that great.

 

[albyman32]

I like Over in Toronto.

Ump is nice (low SO/BB ratio, 9-5 to Over for totals 9.0 or higher), Loe is a lefty on a slide & the Blow Jays love their lefties, & Marcum has a dodgy home ERA (4.58 - last 4 home starts all Over). Texas has only seen Marcum in relief this season (3 ERs in 2.0 innings, 13.50 ERA).

Meetings between these teams are 5-3 to Under on the season, but Texas has started a righty every time.

For future reference Kam Loe is a righty. Wood won't go very long today since he pitched on Wednesday but the Texas pen is solid. I think we knew this was gonna happen today so thats why we brought in Jamey freakin Wright to go the last 4 innings after Millwood only lasted 4 yesterday. Wanted to save the good arms in the bullpen.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Alby, excuse my gross error. That said, Loe sucks and Over hit within 4 Inns. So I didnt pay for my error, I got paid for it, LOL.

Last laugh is on my book. Just learnt of the pitching change.

 

[Man on Fire]

Alby, excuse my gross error. That said, Loe sucks and Over hit within 4 Inns. So I didnt pay for my error, I got paid for it, LOL.

Last laugh is on my book. Just learnt of the pitching change.

Bet, any night games tonight?

 

[BetCrimes1984]

MoF, I'm still looking.

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Took Over 8.5 in Tampa

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Washington in a blowout. The battle is Sunday. GL

You nailed this one. Hope you played -2.5:cheers: