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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]05:35 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Dallas Mavericks[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]0 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+6.5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]05:35 PM[/TD]
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Watched Utah - Suns a bit and while I always believe that in B2B set, either the team that lost the last game or no bet, but Utah stinks big time. I watched them this season in 3 games and in all three, it looked like the true tanking team that many thought half the league would be.
Zero talent, zero desire to win, allowed Suns to control the tempo they wanted, Suns missed tons of open looks, while Jazz made a few really hard baskets and still lost in double digits. Utah played with zero defense, allowing Suns to shoot open shots time after time...
Maybe Utah TT Under.
 
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-3.5 1.980[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.637[/TD]
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Wolves and Boston became road favorites. Bulls already get 5 points in Cleveland. How a team that got 4 points in their favor in Detroit, gets 5 points against them in Cleveland?
 
Zarba is the ref in DC. With him, Wizards are 0 - 10 both SU and ATS and Hawks are 8 - 2 ATS and 7 - 3 SU.
I don't think I remember a ref with such one sided history...
 
Must be Calderon's ankle pushing the total down. He is doubtful tonight. Also, Monta didn't look right last night either.
 
Houston plus 3 first half. No brainer. Spurs and Rockets both put in no effort last night but Spurs have 1 day off till Atlanta while Rockets worried sick about Utah. Howard does not like the Spurs!! He played 17 minutes and 17 seconds last night. Pops will save everything for the last half I believe. Houston could win this game i believe and there is real value in a game bet but the best bet is first half.
 
Memphis minus 3 first quarter. Hopeless spot may play game as well. Nets worst 5 in 7. Pierce may not play and they have been a terrible first quarter team most of the time. new Memphis teams has been solid last 2 games in first quarter and are getting a lot of production from the bench. 24 and then 45 last 2 and is looking at tough games coming up and has to walk on this team.
 
On the other hand, Kidd was clearly eying to tonight's game last night. He gave KG a night off, he rested the startes for the entire second half (besides Lopez who needed to get back to game shape) - Memphis without Gasol lacks on both ends of the floor.
I really don't trust them with Conley and Z-Bo as only options. The hopes to see Poindexter, Allen or Miller explode on offense are slim in my eyes.
This can be a real grind battle and 8 points is a lot of point in this case.
Memphis are 2 - 5 ATS in first quarters at home. Nets are 2 - 7 ATS on the road.
 
it's been a long time since I've seen a coach bench all his players for their pathetic effort and then seen it referred to as "resting" lol
 
I call it resting, because decision to rest KG was made before the game, so that's clear indication to me, that Kidd had his eyes set for tonight's game in the first place and last night the team just mailed it in.
 
Good points but understand that I am looking at a changed Memphis team trying to survive. Last 2 games playing at home they win by 4 in first quarter. Road game 27-13 first quarter. Next 5 games they face 4 real teams. This is a game they really should come out hard on.
i will also say if I was Kidd I would be looking for a second half effort.
 
Good chance you're right Tuck, I'm not touching the 1st quarter. I wanted to take the Nets, but now, with Pierce being out, I will probably skip the game all together.
It's always hard to understand how injury affects a team, until you see them start playing without him (I'm talking about Gasol).
Good luck tonight!
 
Played Atlanta plus 3.5
Washington has
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Atlanta 1 player out
They got lucky and broke their losing streak and have a game at Spurs and then home vs Clippers after this so total focus
Washington just too thin to be a fav right now and do not like their chances of dealing with the 20 point loss
 
Want to bet Dallas but that line is stanky.

Wolves 1-19 SU (5-15 ATS) last 20 away on Saturday.
 
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