Saturday 01/03/15 NBA discussion thread

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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Charlotte Hornets[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+4.5 2.020[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 2.730[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]04:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Orlando Magic[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-4.5 1.884[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.518[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 187.5 1.980[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+1 2.000[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.050[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 200 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]05:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Minnesota Timberwolves[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-1 1.909[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.862[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 200 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Miami Heat[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+7.5 1.909[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 3.730[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 197 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]05:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Houston Rockets[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-7.5 2.000[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.322[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 197 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesDate, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Sat 1/3[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]507[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Boston Celtics[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+11.5 1.943[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 7.380[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 206 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE, align: center"][/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]05:05 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]508[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Chicago Bulls[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-11.5 1.961[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.125[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 206 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesDate, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Sat 1/3[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]509[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Washington Wizards[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+5 2.020[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 2.929[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 197 1.980[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]05:35 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]510[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]San Antonio Spurs[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-5 1.884[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 1.465[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 197 1.925[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesDate, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Sat 1/3[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]511[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Memphis Grizzlies[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+1 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.000[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 203 1.980[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]06:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Denver Nuggets[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-1 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.909[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 203 1.925[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Atlanta Hawks[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+6 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"] 3.090[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Portland Trail Blazers [/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-6 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Philadelphia 76ers[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+19 1.961[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Los Angeles Clippers[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-19 1.943[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 206 1.934[/TD]
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Portland is 7-2 to Under @home vs. the East.

Atlanta is 3-1 to Under away vs. the West (however, they are 7-2 to Over playing B2B: none away vs. the West).
 
Really like Den and the Under tonight. Mem left late from LA last night, didn't get into Den until early am, heads didn't the pillow until early.
Heard from one of the radio crew guys that they also had some delays as well, frustrating travels. (Which probably happens very often anyways)
larger than normal play for me if a good # comes out for 1Q, 1H totals & gm.
 
It's rare to see something like that, but Memphis played in Denver last year, on the exact same date, 03.01.14, also playing in B2B spot and off a win.
That time, Denver were 4 points favorites and managed to win the game, but lost the cover, by winning by 3 points only.
 
Tuck - this is from your post last night after i sarcastically said i was a "little" wrong about the Celtics game

More than a little. I played them and looking back WHY? Dallas has Rondo as their point guard. He is playing his ex home team. It is their obligation to support him vs his old team. Its not a personal thing at all. That's just what teams do.
No idea why I lost sight of that. Still cashed with Pelicans, Detroit and Pacers.

You obviously didnt watch any part of the Celts/mavs game based on your comment about them supporting him during the game. ( i am going to take this as you saying they will give him the ball more)... This couldnt be further from the truth..

The outside shots that Rondo hit were with minimal time on the shot clock and as the point guard he has the ball in his hands a lot..
The shots he hot were wide open shots in which he normally misses ( he might hit 1 or 2)
As far as the actual score- it had absolutely nothing to do with the Mavs supporting Rondo
The Celtics not only couldnt hit a shot they were wide open shots they were missing, nothing Dallas did.
On the defense for the Celtics, every time mavs set a pick for nowitzki the Celtics switched with a guy much smaller than him and it was an easy basket..... The C's also gave up too many offensive rebounds - neither of these 2 things have anything to do with supporting Rondo.
Also thought Stevens using 11 guys and not keeping Zeller in ( was playing great on both ends) longer hurt them on the boards...
bottom line Mavs won the game and they covered, but no where even close for the reasons you say

then there is this ---- Still cashed with Pelicans, Detroit and Pacers.
these are your comments from yesterday on these games...
Early lean to Pelicans. Might have to play Detroit
Adding Boston plus 6

So you make snotty comment towards me and then say you won on those 3 games ?? you never mentioned the Pacers anywhere and don't commit to either the pelicans or pistons....
Would love to be able to post a win after the game is played.. would make things easier .....
Gl on your season ....
 
ProV1Colt said:
Really like Den and the Under tonight. Mem left late from LA last night, didn't get into Den until early am, heads didn't the pillow until early.
Heard from one of the radio crew guys that they also had some delays as well, frustrating travels. (Which probably happens very often anyways)
larger than normal play for me if a good # comes out for 1Q, 1H totals & gm.
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good info!
 
Its not a competition for most wins.
I got on Indiana when I went to Vegas Experts and read
Indiana: 11-3 ATS as a road underdog
Milwaukee: 1-13 ATS off a win against a division rival
I am just interested in my bottom line.
My remarks were addressed to ME. I screwed up in that game. I blame NO ONE but myself for mistakes.
 
tuck321 said:
Its not a competition for most wins.
I got on Indiana when I went to Vegas Experts and read
Indiana: 11-3 ATS as a road underdog
Milwaukee: 1-13 ATS off a win against a division rival
I am just interested in my bottom line.
My remarks were addressed to ME. I screwed up in that game. I blame NO ONE but myself for mistakes.
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All good- Let's find some wins..... :shake:
 
Sick possibility. Clippers minus 19. This is 1 week from the Clippers home loss to Toronto and the first time in a Long time they are playing on 2 or more days rest
Philadelphia has been blown out in their last 4 games. In at least 2 of those games. Utah and then the Suns their opponents had no real interest in blowing them out. Its a sicking bet but I may make it.
Another possibility that I am probably not making is Boston. Killer Sports has 2 separate trends that are negative 0-14 and 0-12 toward the Bulls. The Bulls have failed 4 in a row ATS at home on Saturday this season and 7 straight going back to last year. Boston 3-1 ATS on b-b. Just not feeling Boston right now.
 
Just a thought in the last 18 games Philly has scored Under 85 3 times so IMO if your thinking of betting the Clippers which I must confess to me is crazy but if your thinking you should parlay them to the Over it's correlation at it's best. Don't know if your book will let you but that's the way to go. The only way this number gets covered IMO is if this game goes over the posted 206. This will be run and gun and by the end of the 3rd Q run and gun with back-ups who want to score.
 
In their last 10 home games, the Clippers have won and covered by a margin of 20 or more 4 times. Why would this be crazy?
 
By the way Pounding the Rock which has been very crazy pushing the Spurs off some rest and a win is calling for Spurs by 2
 
lean
Tblazers 1h over -
nuggz 1h over and game over
1h over bulls
spurs ml - tt over 1h
rox tt over -- ( will be interesting to see if they start smith)
 
tuck321 said:
In their last 10 home games, the Clippers have won and covered by a margin of 20 or more 4 times. Why would this be crazy?
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In my mind it's crazy to lay those kind of numbers that's all. But if I did lay it I would parlay it. In those 4 times was the line this high or they just won the game by more then 20. It's a mindset. It's different if I go into a game laying -4 and win by 25 then being a 19 point favorite. It's just my opinion have at it I couldn't lay -19 with monopoly money.
 
The negative is in the past Philadelphia was good on Saturday and b-b. Clippers however just saw GS win by 40 and then slaughter Toronto. I would not count on mercy from the Clippers.
 
Charlotte and Orlando, Charlotte playing 3 in the last 4 with two (Tonight's game) on the road and Orlando playing a back to back. Orlando has beaten them twice this year already both times at Charlotte and Both times Big Al was playing. He's out and tonight Orlando is at home. Orlando's top two guys didn't have great nights last night with Tobias shooting 4/10 and -21 when he was on the floor and Vucevic was also 4/10 and -12 when on the floor. Expect much better nights and this game really should get there.
 
tuck321 said:
The negative is in the past Philadelphia was good on Saturday and b-b. Clippers however just saw GS win by 40 and then slaughter Toronto. I would not count on mercy from the Clippers.
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agree that if clips get rolling they will keep the foot on the gas....cp and bg just aren't the feel sorry for you kind of guys...19 tough to lay but can envision another blowout
 
Paulie The Vig said:
Charlotte and Orlando, Charlotte playing 3 in the last 4 with two (Tonight's game) on the road and Orlando playing a back to back. Orlando has beaten them twice this year already both times at Charlotte and Both times Big Al was playing. He's out and tonight Orlando is at home. Orlando's top two guys didn't have great nights last night with Tobias shooting 4/10 and -21 when he was on the floor and Vucevic was also 4/10 and -12 when on the floor. Expect much better nights and this game really should get there.
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agree....probably going to play majic myself (small because of double revenge)....char...L10...W2...L4...W4...L5...last 25....losing breeds losing and they are classic imo
 
been pawing around schedules and stats for a couple hours and I can't find a lot that I love

celts playing 3 in 4 but seem to play chi pretty good and after last night's offensive fizzle they should shoot better tonight....chi may be content to run with them but not sure....going to play c's 1h and look to make a bulls second half play...i was with tuck and cash on the first half last night...i was more afraid of rondo dishing out 20 assists than knocking down 29 points...wtf....love that guy....such an enigma

don't understand the line move in minn...somebody hurt?....jazz have won 5 in 8 and have indy (away) chi okc hou gsw next 5....this is a winnable game for them and they could lose the next 5...i think they come to play and I kind of like them as a team

heat have a winnable game against nets at home tomorrow....hou has lost 3 of 4 and 5 of 8...i think they play d and win tonight....probably under and maybe hou on the side but 7 is troubling

wiz have lost 2 in a row and have not lost 3 in a row all year...spurs 5-9 last 14 and maybe its time to realize they are the late 80's celtics

denver has minn and magic on deck and mem has W6..L..W4..L..W5..L2..W6..L4..W3...natural laws of progression tells me mem wins...ha ha...so fucked up

atl 17-2 last 19 and only losses to teams they took lightly...mil and magic...i think one of those losses ended a long winning streak...atl plays up to its competition and although port well rested and at home if i can get 6.5 or 7 i'm in

clips roll but i am staying away as i have not had a lot of luck with philly....that's probably because i bet on them...i took them in the second half the other night and had them plus 31 for the game and they lost by 40....wtf
 
Locked in Washington when I saw line dropping to 5.
Spurs last 10 at home 4-6 ATS and 2-5 last 7
Washington 13-7 ATS on the road on Saturday and 2-0 away this season.
Minutes for Washington last night fairly low. Think 1 guy went 37 minutes.
Spurs have beaten this team 16 in a row and in that period 1 ATS loss. Strong opinion that they will play very hard in this game. Trust hate and the absence of Parker
 
magic ml - xl

over tblazers 1h 97- large
nuggz over 98.5 1h - xxl - might add more
spurs over 96.5 1h - large
over bulls 1h 98 - xl
 
Thinking about Minn. Utah a much better team is 2-6 ATS playing b-b and Minn 0ff 10 straight losses and 4 games they played pretty well with ATS covers probably is due. Will probably flip a coin,
 
tuck321 said:
Thinking about Minn. Utah a much better team is 2-6 ATS playing b-b and Minn 0ff 10 straight losses and 4 games they played pretty well with ATS covers probably is due. Will probably flip a coin,
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Like the Wolves too. Already locked Denver -1 and debating that same play.
 
Almost 100 shot attempts in the bulls game in the 1st half and get break 90 points...
 
Paulie The Vig said:
In my mind it's crazy to lay those kind of numbers that's all. But if I did lay it I would parlay it. In those 4 times was the line this high or they just won the game by more then 20. It's a mindset. It's different if I go into a game laying -4 and win by 25 then being a 19 point favorite. It's just my opinion have at it I couldn't lay -19 with monopoly money.
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Dead right about the side and total parlay.
 
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