$$$'s chase and other picks thread

11/18/07

System Record: 41-6 (+9.95 Units) Running total 41-33-11 ---> (+7.186 Units)
Other plays: 27-9 (+61.8 Units)

System:

Avalanche Under 5 1/2 -110 (series 2/3) Risking 3.3 to win 3 Units
Devils Under ?? ??? (series 2/3) Risking ??? to win 2.864 Units

Other plays active:

11-20-07 Possible Play on Toronto ??? Risking ?? to win 9.2 Units

Other plays pending:

2 11-21-07 Play on NY Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
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it seems like the goal scoring have increased and the unders are taking a beating lately. also doesn't help that the books haven't adjusted to totals either.

$$$, was there a period where the system was on a 'slump' last year as well?
 
twoface said:
it seems like the goal scoring have increased and the unders are taking a beating lately. also doesn't help that the books haven't adjusted to totals either.

$$$, was there a period where the system was on a 'slump' last year as well?
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Don't really remember, but I do know that the system does take losses and hopefully they will subside for a while.
 
11/19/07

System Record: 42-6 (+11.45 Units) Running total 42-33-11 ---> (+10.186 Units)
Other plays: 27-9 (+61.8 Units)

System:

Devils Under ?? ??? (series 2/3) Risking ??? to win 2.864 Units
Kings Under 5 1/2 +105 (series 1/3) Risking 1.619 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-20-07 Possible Play on Toronto ??? Risking ?? to win 9.2 Units

Other plays pending:

2 11-21-07 Play on NY Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***

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$$$, sorry if you've posted the answer before,
but what was the final units gained from this system last season?
I found a post on charviks thread last season and you said that at the time it was up 70 units.

If there are 201 series all together this season, and each series loss is distributed throughout the rest of the series....if everything pans out, (barring any late season losses) shouldn't you end up with 201 units for the system?
 
twoface said:
$$$, sorry if you've posted the answer before,
but what was the final units gained from this system last season?
I found a post on charviks thread last season and you said that at the time it was up 70 units.

If there are 201 series all together this season, and each series loss is distributed throughout the rest of the series....if everything pans out, (barring any late season losses) shouldn't you end up with 201 units for the system?
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Yes, the goal is to win 201 units, but I think Charvik stopped his late in the season once teams starting clinching. I may do the same as looking at last season's sheet, there were a lot of losses in March, but in April, they all won, but the monetary units were higher.
 
$$$$inmywallett said:
Yes, the goal is to win 201 units, but I think Charvik stopped his late in the season once teams starting clinching. I may do the same as looking at last season's sheet, there were a lot of losses in March, but in April, they all won, but the monetary units were higher.
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Good to know!

Can you tell me what was the final result for last year??
or if there is a link to the spreadsheet, that's even better!

thanks again for the hard work!
 
twoface said:
Good to know!

Can you tell me what was the final result for last year??
or if there is a link to the spreadsheet, that's even better!

thanks again for the hard work!
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Well, the total series was 176 and the overall record was 155-116. The series total was 156-20. It all ended up with the goal of 176 units.
 
$$$$inmywallett said:
Well, the total series was 176 and the overall record was 155-116. The series total was 156-20. It all ended up with the goal of 176 units.
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thanks for the replies!

I am wondering how come the series total is 156-20 but the overall only has 155 wins? Should they not be the same amount, as each win would also be counted as a series win?

Maybe a typo? or am i missing something?

Also, do you only play your hockey and baseball systems year round?
And looking at the excellent results, (i guess depending on your unit size) you can generate a nice yearly profit....kinda like a side job?



- also, i might be wrong but, my records on my computer show that there are 6 series losses not 5 .
calgary, buffalo, edmonton, carolina, minny and hawks.
maybe you missed an update?


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twoface said:
thanks for the replies!

I am wondering how come the series total is 156-20 but the overall only has 155 wins? Should they not be the same amount, as each win would also be counted as a series win?

Maybe a typo? or am i missing something?

Also, do you only play your hockey and baseball systems year round?
And looking at the excellent results, (i guess depending on your unit size) you can generate a nice yearly profit....kinda like a side job?



- also, i might be wrong but, my records on my computer show that there are 6 series losses not 5 .
calgary, buffalo, edmonton, carolina, minny and hawks.
maybe you missed an update?


:cheers:
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You are right, I went back over my spreadsheet and it is 156. Also, it is 6 losses, but the units are correct. Thanks. I wish it would be like a side job, but don't have a wiseguy bankroll ;)
 
11/20/07

System Record: 43-6 (+13.15 Units) Running total 43-33-11 ---> (+11.886 Units)
Other plays: 27-9 (+61.8 Units)

System:

Devils Under ?? ??? (series 2/3) Risking ??? to win 2.864 Units
Canucks Under 5 -110 (series 1/3) Risking 1.87 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-20-07 Play on Toronto -160 Risking 14.72 to win 9.2 Units

Other plays pending:

2 11-21-07 Play on NY Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
 
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no problem dude...glad to help!

What is the record for your 'other plays' ML only?

ps: if you are on pace for 201 units, 20 dollars a unit would yield 4 grand for hockey.
and your mlb chase is good for 300 units, but i would lower the unit size for that because of more plays and the laying the juice....
and at 10 bucks a unit, thats 3 grand ....total for 1 year: $7000.00.
That's more than my part-time job paid when i was still in school. lol
 
twoface said:
no problem dude...glad to help!

What is the record for your 'other plays' ML only?

ps: if you are on pace for 201 units, 20 dollars a unit would yield 4 grand for hockey.
and your mlb chase is good for 300 units, but i would lower the unit size for that because of more plays and the laying the juice....
and at 10 bucks a unit, thats 3 grand ....total for 1 year: $7000.00.
That's more than my part-time job paid when i was still in school. lol
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LOL!!! yeah, even if your units were $1, then it would still be nice. Anyway, the ML only plays are 5-4 with tonight pending. As you can see, it is a chase, but with criteria. Last year, the overall chase was 29-0. This year so far it is 5-0 with 1 pending.
 
hahaha i see why you want that toronto win ... well if it means you winning, i will take a loss if it has to go over!

good luck tonight ... :cheers:
 
11/21/07

System Record: 43-6 (+13.15 Units) Running total 43-34-11 ---> (+10.016 Units)
Other plays: 27-10 (+47.08 Units)

System:

Devils Under 5 1/2 -130 (series 2/3) Risking 3.723 to win 2.864 Units
Canucks Under 5 +100 (series 2/3) Risking 3.57 to win 3.57 Units

Other plays active:

11-21-07 Play on NY Rangers PL +1 1/2 -275 Risking 5.5 to win 2 Units
11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units

Other plays pending:

3 11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 **
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
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ouch ... the sting will go away once you get the win for that series though ... you gotta be close to hitting that one! ... best of luck bud
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11/22/07

System Record: 44-6 (+14.65 Units) Running total 44-35-11 ---> (+9.31 Units)
Other plays: 28-10 (+49.08 Units)

System:

Canucks Under ?? ?? (series 3/3) Risking ?? to win 6.14 Units
Blackhawks Under 5 1/2 -115 (series 1/3) Risking 1.955 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units

Other plays pending:

3 11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 **
11-24-07 Possible Play on Capitals ******
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***

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$$$, i keep forgetting to ask...
i know the system record at 14.65 units is what you have gained right?
but how do you calculate the running total?
does that include the current games that are pending??
 
twoface said:
$$$, i keep forgetting to ask...
i know the system record at 14.65 units is what you have gained right?
but how do you calculate the running total?
does that include the current games that are pending??
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The running total is the amount of winnings from the Overall - Pending units.
 
11/23/07

System Record: 45-6 (+16.35 Units) Running total 45-35-11 ---> (+11.01 Units)
Other plays: 28-10 (+49.08 Units)

System:

Canucks Under 5 +105 (series 3/3) Risking 5.848 to win 6.14 Units

Other plays active:

11-23-07 Play on Carolina PL +1 1/2 -420 Risking 8.4 to win 2 Units
11-23-07 Play on Maple Leafs PL +1 1/2 -220 Risking 4.4 to win 2 Units
11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units


Other plays pending:

11-24-07 Possible Play on Capitals ******
3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
 
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Hope the canucks can pull through tonight, i head on the radio that Salo is back in the lineup, so that should improve their already steady defence.
Last year, i think that the total would've been 5.5 ...at least.
But seeing how the blues have been an under machine, i can see why its at 5.

$$$$, can you tell me what was the maximum single wager for this system last year??

sorry for picking your brain about the system so much in this thread, but i am trying to soak in as much info and detail to get a better feel of this system....as this is the first time i've followed a system so religiously. lol
 
twoface said:
Hope the canucks can pull through tonight, i head on the radio that Salo is back in the lineup, so that should improve their already steady defence.
Last year, i think that the total would've been 5.5 ...at least.
But seeing how the blues have been an under machine, i can see why its at 5.

$$$$, can you tell me what was the maximum single wager for this system last year??

sorry for picking your brain about the system so much in this thread, but i am trying to soak in as much info and detail to get a better feel of this system....as this is the first time i've followed a system so religiously. lol
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13.72 Units was the maximum risk per game, that lost, totalling almost 22 unit loss for that series.

No problem for the questions. I think that the more that people know, the better choices they can make themselves.
 
11/24/07

System Record: 46-6 (+18.05 Units) Running total 46-35-11 ---> (+18.05 Units)
Other plays: 29-11 (+46.68 Units)

System:

Flames Under 5 1/2 +110 (series 1/3) Risking 1.55 to win 1.7 Units
Bruins Under 5 1/2 -135 (series 1/3) Risking 2.3 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 ?? Risking ??? to win 6.4 Units
11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units

Other plays pending:

3 11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 **
11-26-07 Possible Play on Flyers ******
11-26-07 Possible Play on Capitals ******
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
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$$$$inmywallett said:
13.72 Units was the maximum risk per game, that lost, totalling almost 22 unit loss for that series.

No problem for the questions. I think that the more that people know, the better choices they can make themselves.
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Thanks! i totally agree.
nothing interests me more than a working system! lol

So all together, the worst series was 22 units as well?
Would this mean that after distributing losses, you were betting to win 3 untis instead of 1. 7 (currently) ?

Also, did this loss occur late in the season?

if so, i think that is pretty good to only be risking 3 units from 1 after spreading out all the losses.
 
Sorry, its getting late...maybe i should rephrase the question:
By the end of the year, after distributing the 16 losses, how much were you betting to Win??
 
twoface said:
Sorry, its getting late...maybe i should rephrase the question:
By the end of the year, after distributing the 16 losses, how much were you betting to Win??
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There was 7 series losses in the month of March and the last one finished on March 25th. After that, there were 8 series to make up those losses.
 
Oh!
so you must've been betting a fair chunk to make up those 7 losses with only 8 series left?
The 7 losses in march would've increased your 'to win' wager by a bit.
What was the 'to win' amount at the start of march?

$$$, do you still have the spreadsheet from last year that i could take a look at?

Damn, the flames under just lost.
but the B's looks good as of now! hope they hang on!
 
11/25/07

System Record: 47-6 (+19.75 Units) Running total 47-36-11 ---> (+18.20 Units)
Other plays: 29-11 (+46.68 Units)

System:

Flames Under 5 +110 (series 2/3) Risking 2.95 to win 3.25 Units
Stars Under 5 -120 (series 1/3) Risking 2.04 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 -450 Risking 28.8 to win 6.4 Units
11-25-07 Play on Rangers PL +1 1/2 -450 Risking 9 to win 2 Units
11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units

Other plays pending:

11-26-07 Possible Play on Flyers ******
11-26-07 Possible Play on Capitals ******
2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
2 12-03-07 Play on Phoenix PL +1 1/2 **
3 12-05-07 Play on Edmonton PL +1 1/2 **
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twoface said:
Oh!
so you must've been betting a fair chunk to make up those 7 losses with only 8 series left?
The 7 losses in march would've increased your 'to win' wager by a bit.
What was the 'to win' amount at the start of march?

$$$, do you still have the spreadsheet from last year that i could take a look at?

Damn, the flames under just lost.
but the B's looks good as of now! hope they hang on!
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Sorry, no spreadsheet, just data. It was 4.5 Units to win though.
 
Thanks $$$$!

was it 4.5 units at the start of march or end of the year?
sorry just wanted to confirm, cuz i'm trying to crunch some numbers and stuff. lol.
yes, this is what i do on my sundays.

Go flames under!
 
11/26/07

System Record: 48-6 (+21.45 Units) Running total 48-36-12 ---> (+21.45 Units)
Other plays: 31-11 (+55.08 Units)

System:

Stars Under 5 -105 (series 2/3) Risking 1.785 to win 1.7 Units
Blue Jackets Under 5 1/2 -135 (series 1/3) Risking 2.295 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-26-07 Play on Flyers -190 Risking 7.6 to win 4 Units
11-26-07 Play on Capitals -110 Risking 4.4 to win 4 Units
11-27-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 23.92 Units

Other plays pending:


2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
2 12-03-07 Play on Phoenix PL +1 1/2 **
3 12-05-07 Play on Edmonton PL +1 1/2 **

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Thanks for the info $$$ .

How come after the 22 unit loss, (and the other 6 losses for the month), after being redistributed, you are only betting to win 4.5 units when there is only 8 series left to make up the losses?
i was under the impression that you would have to risk more. Maybe is it cuz you cap your losses at 3 games?

From what i've read, I'm guessing at the start of march, the record was 126-13 ??
So if each loss is worth no more than 22 units but probably 10 or more, does that mean that there is a time when the system record is in the negatives in march?
 
Okay, I had messed up with some of my units on my "other plays", which ended up lowering my overall units, but it didn't affect any of my plays pending, so if you played them for what was listed, then you made more money than me.

Again, sorry, but everything is correct now.
 
11/27/07

System Record: 49-6 (+23.15 Units) Running total 49-36-13 ---> (+23.15 Units)
Other plays: 31-13 (+43.08 Units)

System:

Stars Under ?? ??? (series 3/3) Risking ?? to win 1.7 Units
Ducks Under 5 -105 (series 1/3) Risking 1.785 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-27-07 Play on Toronto -110 Risking 26.31 to win 23.92 Units
11-28-07 Possible Play on Capitals ?? Risking ?? to win 8.4 Units
12-01-07 Possible Play on Flyers ?? Risking ?? to win 11.6 Units

Other plays pending:

2 11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 ***
3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
2 12-03-07 Play on Phoenix PL +1 1/2 **
3 12-05-07 Play on Edmonton PL +1 1/2 **
 
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twoface said:
Thanks for the info $$$ .

How come after the 22 unit loss, (and the other 6 losses for the month), after being redistributed, you are only betting to win 4.5 units when there is only 8 series left to make up the losses?
i was under the impression that you would have to risk more. Maybe is it cuz you cap your losses at 3 games?

From what i've read, I'm guessing at the start of march, the record was 126-13 ??
So if each loss is worth no more than 22 units but probably 10 or more, does that mean that there is a time when the system record is in the negatives in march?
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Remember, some of the losses included ties, which reduced the losses. Also, there was positive money at the end of all months except March.
 
Good point!

$$$, do you have any methods to weather the march losses?
or just stick with it?
maybe reducing unit sizes in march? ending early...? etc..
 
twoface said:
Good point!

$$$, do you have any methods to weather the march losses?
or just stick with it?
maybe reducing unit sizes in march? ending early...? etc..
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It depends on my unit's won size, I mean 50 units is great also. We will see how it goes. I am hoping that the whole debauchle in the middle of November is over. I can take a loss or two gradually, but that was ridiculous. Of course, recently, the Stars are making me mad, but if it loses, it will only be a small one with two Push's already.
 
yeah, i guess even if dallas loses the next one, its not that bad as it is only a 1 unit loss.
It feels like the unders are coming around lately, or at least it feels like it.

i guess we will wait until march...but any reasons to why that is?
teams not trying after clinching a playoff spot or out of the playoff race??

thanks for going back and looking at the numbers for me !

I am trying to use a good unit size that can sustain the losses to build up a decent bankroll for baseball.

Like you said, i don't mind the losses if it is spread out and not all clustered together at once. ..ie ) 5+ losses in a month...thats difficult to recover from.
 
11/28/07

System Record: 50-6 (+24.85 Units) Running total 50-36-13 ---> (+24.85 Units)
Other plays: 31-14 (+16.77 Units)

System:

Stars Under 5 -110 (series 3/3) Risking 1.87 to win 1.7 Units
Coyotes Under 5 +110 (series 1/3) Risking 1.55 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

11-28-07 Play on Los Angeles PL +1 1/2 -160 Risking 4 to win 2.5 Units
11-28-07 Play on Capitals -135 Risking 11.34 to win 8.4 Units
12-01-07 Possible Play on Flyers ?? Risking ?? to win 11.6 Units
12-01-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 50.23 Units

Other plays pending:

3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
2 12-03-07 Play on Phoenix PL +1 1/2 **
3 12-05-07 Play on Edmonton PL +1 1/2 **
 
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twoface said:
yeah, i guess even if dallas loses the next one, its not that bad as it is only a 1 unit loss.
It feels like the unders are coming around lately, or at least it feels like it.

i guess we will wait until march...but any reasons to why that is?
teams not trying after clinching a playoff spot or out of the playoff race??

thanks for going back and looking at the numbers for me !

I am trying to use a good unit size that can sustain the losses to build up a decent bankroll for baseball.

Like you said, i don't mind the losses if it is spread out and not all clustered together at once. ..ie ) 5+ losses in a month...thats difficult to recover from.
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No clue why it would be March, but hopefully not this year.
 
11/29/07

System Record: 51-7 (+24.68 Units) Running total 51-37-13 ---> (+24.68 Units)
Other plays: 32-15 (+7.93 Units)

System:

Predators Under 5 1/2 -110 (series 1/3) Risking 1.87 to win 1.7 Units

Other plays active:

12-01-07 Possible Play on Flyers ?? Risking ?? to win 11.6 Units
12-01-07 Possible Play on Toronto ?? Risking ?? to win 50.23 Units
12-08-07 Possible Play on Capitals ?? Risking ?? to win 19.74 Units

Other plays pending:

3 11-30-07 Play on Colorado PL +1 1/2 ***
2 12-03-07 Play on Phoenix PL +1 1/2 **
3 12-05-07 Play on Edmonton PL +1 1/2 **
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