Return of the MAC

32 point dog, outscored 27-100 in two games, outgained 632-1191...it's not like they can get any worse....unless being without 4 coaches who supposedly are "the entire group up in the box" according to a message board post qualifies as getting worse. I assume they'll get somebody up there to relay info...GAs or some other position coaches.
 
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Eastern Michigan from a trend standpoint is insane in this spot as an underdog in conference play under Creighton over the last five years. Would like to see 7.5 there if possible.

Central Michigan has been solid but steam this morning on WMU makes me think there might be COVID/Injury news with CMU.

Ball State laying over two TD’s seems like suicide given there defensive issues. But then again it didn’t matter for Kent State last night.
 
You MAC guys are doing a good job. All the posts that Akron was showing life were correct. They didn't cover, but they did look a lot better.

Won a 2-team parlay last week based on this thread so keep posting. I might try it again. There is a certain pleasure in playing a parlay when you don't know much about the teams.

The one bit I know about CMU/WMU is I won money on McElwain when he was in the Mountain West and i like the way his teams play, and I had WMU on the parlay so watched the end of their game against Toledo and they should be coming in 1-1.

Toledo had that game won, no way they could lose, and then lost in the most brutal way possible. Don't know what effect that will have on Toledo this week

Any feeling on CMU/WMU and on how that loss will affect Toledo
 
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Somebody asked about overs and MAC totals last night. Here are the game results and totals to date (scoresandodds closing number):

11/4 & 11/5
Eastern Michigan (+5) 23 at Kent State 27 - Dog ATS & Under 65.5
Western Michigan (-19.5) 58 at Akron 13 - Fav ATS & Over 51.5
Ball State 31 at Miami, Oh 38 (pk) - N/A & Over 58
Buffalo (-14.5) 49 at Northern Ill 30 - Fav ATS & Over 53.5
Ohio 27 at Central Mich (+2.5) 30 - Dog/Upset & Over 54
Bowling Green 3 at Toledo (-24) 38 - Fav ATS & Under 63

11/11 & 11/12
Akron (+27.5) 10 at Ohio 24 - Dog ATS & Under 59
Kent State (-20.5) 62 at Bowling Green 24 - Fav ATS & Over 55.5
Miami, Oh 10 at Buffalo (-8) 42 - Fav & Under 56
Eastern Mich (+8.5) 31 at Ball State 38 - Dog ATS & Over 61.5
Central Mich (-6) 40 at Northern Ill 10 - Fav ATS & Under 57.5
Toledo 38 at Western Mich (-1) - Fav ATS & Over 59.5

11/17
Akron 35 at Kent State (-26) 69 - Fav ATS & Over 59.5
Buffalo 42 at Bowling Green (+31.5) 17 - Dog ATS & Over 58.5

Favorites are 8-5 ATS with only 1 upset (CM+2.5 vs OU) (Ball St - MiaO was pick'em not counted)
Overs are 9-5
 
Eastern Mich has covered both their games as dogs but lost both straight up. Vs Kent they looked lost in the 1st H (trailed 9-20 could've been worse) but played a better 2nd H (lost 23-27) plus Kent kinda fell out of the grove they were in to open the 3rd Q somewhat allowing EM to get back into it. One could say they were fortunate to cover that one. Vs Ball St they played a better 1st H (led 21-10) but not as good 2nd H (lost 31-38). In losing both of those one score games, EM was outgained 302-431 vs Kent and 477-536 vs Ball.

Feel like this is a bad spot for EM. Their D is not very good and will have a tough challenge facing Toledo run game and an overall offense which might be improved overall. I say might like that because I didn't think they looked good game 1 and they weren't good last season, so I was wondering if there was any improvement there. But they did impress me and showed me vs Western, the Toledo O looked pretty good, although I still do not think it is to their previous standards. So EM D is going to be challenged here. Toledo's D does look improved. Sure WM had 41 on them, but WM also scored 20 of those points in the 4th Q and we know how that game ended. Toledo outgained WM 501-437 with 203 of WM's yards coming on their final 3 drives of the game. I regard the WM O as pretty good and Toledo D really did a good job vs them for most of the game.

As much as I look for upsets and dogs, Eastern Mich just feels wrong tonight. Assuming Toledo doesn't come out flat after that loss last week. In a 6 game season, they are not completely out of the West Division hunt, but also do not control their own destiny now. Eastern has always been one hell of a good underdog as previously stated here in the thread, so Creighton get's his players up. That aside, just thinking about how Kent and Ball St pushed around the EM D...if that happens again, Toledo should have a lot of success in the area they want the most success, running and if Toledo's improvement on D is real, this will be the toughest D EM has faced yet.

Will look around and see if there is any news on them.
 
Toledo fan message boards fans pretty down on HC Candle, the WM loss appears to be just the latest of their complaints. They are really upset with him...team has been trending down for 3 years and now the WM meltdown. Not a lot of confidence among that message board fan base right now. I'm sure I can find similar about EM right now after their 2 games.
 
Probably not much time to compile what I'm coming across to figure out what I want to do.

Here are NIU fans predicting the Ball St game. Fans of bad teams tend to be overly pessimistic and fans of good teams tend to be overly optimistic. So take what they say with that in mind.

Official Ball State Prediction Thread

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Probably not much time to compile what I'm coming across to figure out what I want to do.

Here are NIU fans predicting the Ball St game. Fans of bad teams tend to be overly pessimistic and fans of good teams tend to be overly optimistic. So take what they say with that in mind.

Official Ball State Prediction Thread

The Dog Pound: The #1 Board for Northern Illinois University (NIU) Huskies sports on the internet.
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thats impressive finding a niu and toledo message board that is active. The usual - rivals, 247 are ghosttowns.. only thing I'll say on niu - they may be much worse than last year due to graduation - but they lost to central in same fashion and ended up being a decent live dog team rest of year. Trends are strong on the huskies.

agree on toledo being able to run - not sure situation on those tackles but they ran it great last week. Toledo is also a perennial head case team that may show up flat based on last week. Eastern almost seems to do it with smoke and mirrors sometimes when you look at the rush boxscore of their games.
 
I just hate to think about laying DD, over 2 TD none-the-less with Ball State. Offensively, a lot to like. It's the defense...but maybe NIU has been bad enough on O that Ball ST can handle them? NIU shouldn't be THIS bad on O...returning QB, receivers are ok, down on talent, OL is poor...ok maybe they should be this bad. NIU has played a couple of the better teams in the MAC though. Buffalo very well could win the EAst or the league this year and CM could win the West and the league this year (were in MAC title gme last year). So NIU has a had a tough two games to open the season. This Ball St D would appear to give them their best chance for some success.

I don't know on this one. Have 35 more minutes to figure it out. NIU is just so young on D, hard to have any confidence there...but if there is one thing for NIU, they did play a fairly decent 1st H vs Buffalo and their D hung in there vs Central last week. Then two really really bad 2nd Hs for NIU so far this year.
 
thats impressive finding a niu and toledo message board that is active
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Yes the csnbbs is active for almost all the MAC taems:

Central -

CSNbbs - Central Michigan

Chippewa Nation: A Message Board for Central Michigan University (CMU) Chippewa sports.
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Eastern -

CSNbbs - Eastern Michigan

EMU Eagle's Nest: The #1 Board for Eastern Michigan University (EMU) Eagles sports on the internet.
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Western -

CSNbbs - The Dan Burgardt Memorial Bronco Football Forum

Bronco Stampede: The #1 Board for Western Michigan University (WMU) Broncos sports on the internet.
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Toledo -

CSNbbs - Toledo

The Launchpad: The #1 Board for Toledo Rockets sports on the internet.
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WM rushing DE Ali Fayad is said to be a gametime decision (ankle vs Toledo). He's a big player for WM DL.
 
WM DE Andre Carter is back this week, missed Toledo game, so he will help offset the loss if Fayad is out
 
Certainly seems like the offenses will be hard for both defenses to contain in Western - Central game. Unless the gameplan turns into a run and clock control for either or both teams. The front 7 for both WM and CM is better than each of their respective secondaries. Both have good receivers, WM QB is good and CM QB is good enough. Think the over is the call there.
 
There will be ZERO fans at the E and C Mich stadiums tonight. Not even family members.
 
Thought about a parlay on overs tonight, finally decided on two-team parlay, EMU +7/WMU pick

Got some info from the posts above but no real idea if those are good bets or not
 
Got a buddy who went to Norther Illinois and claims to know the MAC

He says I took the wrong side on both so added 200 pushups, 100 on each game, with a special rule--loser has to do the pushups when and where the winner orders him to
 
One thing I have learned betting on MACtion. Field goal kickers are terrible. And lots of turnovers in the red zone and end zone.
 
The MAC is the ultimate crap shoot. I think you have to look for tempo, and some offensive capability and then cross your fingers and play the overs.
 
Recaps 11/17 & 11/18

Buffalo led 35-3 entering the 4th Q. BG did miss a 33y FG and was SOD 4-and-2 at the UB29 and 4th-and-9 at the UB45 plus threw INT from the UB14 into the EZ. BG scored 35-10 and UB went 3-and-out. BG converted a 4th down along the way to a 35-17 score. After sitting out the prior possession, UB put Patterson back in and they ran him 4x with the 4th being a 57y TD run putting him over 300y for the game and making the score 42-17 with 2min left (if you had the total at 58.5 it was meaningful). UB outgained them 470-399 (7.8-5.6). 150 of BG's yards were on their final 3 possessions (scored on two of them).

Northern Illinois scored TD on their first possession then Ball St had a FD at the N12 but would have to settle for a 42y FGA which was missed. Ball wasn't able to tie until early 2nd Q...7-7. NIU came back 14-7 and Ball was SOD 4th-and-2. NIU threw INT that went 71y the other way to tie...14-14. NIU missed a 45y FG as the half expired. Ball drove down the field to open the 3rd but threw INT in the EZ! After a 3-and-out, Ball went right back down for a 20-14 lead (2pt no good). Into the 4th Q a 64y catch and run helped Ball extend the lead to 28-14. NIU went 13p 80y converting 4th down along the way to a TD mid 4th @....28-22 (2pt good). Ball kicked a FG from the N16...31-22 with 2min left, then Ball kicked a 41y FG on 3rd down with :43 but the onside kick was recovered by Ball. Ball only outgained them 415-412. Each teams were efficient on 3rd down, but Ball was just 3 of 6 TDs in RZ.

Toledo was far superior to Eastern Michigan, but it took them a while to get it to fully show. EM had no O to start the game at all. Toledo fumbled at the E14, but then scored 2 TDs to lead 14-0. UT fumbled a punt at their own 17 and two plays later EM was on the board...14-7. Toledo went up 21-7. EM fumbled on back-to-back possessions at their own 17 (Toledo failed to gain a FD and missed a 40y FG) and at the T46 (Toledo converted that into a 39y FG). 24-7 HT. EM's struggles on O continued on their first two possessions of the 3rd Q while Toledo was building a 38-7 lead. EM finally had a sustained drive and got a TD, then UT picked off a shovel pass for TD...45-13. EM scored the final two TDs of the game, the final with just :12 left. 45-28. Toledo outgained them 489-278 (7.2-4.0) with EM gaining almost half of their total yardage (140 yards) on their final two possessions.

Akron made it a game for one half, the game was just 28-21 Kent at HT (most points MAC 1st H since 2012). Then the Flashes outscored them 34-7 in the 2nd H (Zips only had four 2nd H possessions: punt, SOD, TD, Fumble). Kent more than doubled the Zips in TY 750-366 (9.6-6.5). Kent converted all 11 of their 3rd down attempts!! Akron was 50%. Kent QB Crum threw 22-25-348-3-0 and ran 13-104-2TD (452 total yards 3rd all time school history). McCoy 6rec-140-TD. Akron's Dollard did run 28-202-4TD. There were two turnovers lost by each team, all 4 were converted into TDs. Kent fumbled at their own 10 on a punt and then at the A14. Akron fumbled at their own 27 and threw INT from their own 37. Kent had a 19-11min 2nd H TOP. Kent tied a school record for points in a game (69) and tied the record for total yards in a game (750) while breaking the ypp record (9.62). Kent has scored 60+ in back-to-back games for the first time in school history, actually Kent is just the third MAC team since 1970 to do it!

Central Michigan jumped out 14-0 on a 65y run and 23y "drive" after a fumble recovery. Western Michigan would score the next 38 points! CM got as close as 15 late 3rd Q before WM stopped the comeback attempt...52-30. CM did score the final two TDs of the game to make it interesting, but could not recover the onside kick. WM had TDs of 33, 85, 69 and 43 yards! WM QB Eleby was just 12-of-20 passing..but for 382 yards !! WM outgained them 628-406 (8.4-7.1). Each team rushed for over 200y (WM 4.5, CM 6.1 ypc). CM converted just 1-of-10 3rd down! WM was 7-of-13.
 
11/4 & 11/5
Eastern Michigan (+5) 23 at Kent State 27 - Dog ATS & Under 65.5
Western Michigan (-19.5) 58 at Akron 13 - Fav ATS & Over 51.5
Ball State 31 at Miami, Oh 38 (pk) - N/A & Over 58
Buffalo (-14.5) 49 at Northern Ill 30 - Fav ATS & Over 53.5
Ohio 27 at Central Mich (+2.5) 30 - Dog/Upset & Over 54
Bowling Green 3 at Toledo (-24) 38 - Fav ATS & Under 63

11/11 & 11/12
Akron (+27.5) 10 at Ohio 24 - Dog ATS & Under 59
Kent State (-20.5) 62 at Bowling Green 24 - Fav ATS & Over 55.5
Miami, Oh 10 at Buffalo (-8) 42 - Fav & Under 56
Eastern Mich (+8.5) 31 at Ball State 38 - Dog ATS & Over 61.5
Central Mich (-6) 40 at Northern Ill 10 - Fav ATS & Under 57.5
Toledo 38 at Western Mich (-1) - Fav ATS & Over 59.5

11/17 & 11/18
Akron 35 at Kent State (-26) 69 - Fav ATS & Over 59.5
Buffalo 42 at Bowling Green (+31.5) 17 - Dog ATS & Over 58.5
Western Michigan (-1.5) 52 at Central Michigan 44 - Fav ATS & Over 59
Toledo (-6.5) 45 at Eastern Michigan 28 - Fav ATS & Over 62
Northern Illinois (+14.5) 25 at Ball State 31 - Dog ATS & Under 59.5

Favorites 10-6 ATS with only 1 upset (CM+2.5 vs OU) (Ball St - MiaO was pick'em not counted)
Overs 11-6
 
No more weekday MACtion, buried with the rest of the games now.

11/27
Central Michigan -4, 52.5 Circa opened, current 6, 58.5
Eastern Michigan

11/28
Kent State
Buffalo -7, 64.5 Circa opened, current 9, 64.5

Northern Illinois
Western Michigan -18, 62.5 Circa opened, current 18.5, 62.5

Ball State
Toledo -9, 67.5 Circa opened, current 10, 64.5

Bowling Green
Ohio -28, 52.5 Circa opened, current 25, 55.5

Miami Oh -14, 48.5 Circa opened, current 14, 54.5
Akron
 
A lot of movement in the Kent - Buffalo game. I'm seeing back down at 7.5 now. I believe I might be willing to trust Kent + the points. Although...defensively...does Kent have any? And nobody really plays good D in the MAC, but if one team does, it's Buffalo. Atleast so it appears. It's just so hard to gauge because Buffalo's D has looked as good as it has vs the likes of NIU, Miami and BG. Two of those three, NIU and BG, have been poor on O in most if not all their games this year. The week after UB played NIU, Huskies scored just 10 on CM before figuring out some things last week. Buffalo basically shutdown the BG O for 3 quarters...but so did Toledo and Kent....so is that any big feat? What UB did to Miami was pretty impressive, however, thinking back on that game, Miami left so many plays out on the field in that one, drops and overthrows were rampant for Miami early in that game when the game literally could've gone either way. Had Miami connected on some of those plays and got some early points, I think Buffalo was still superior and likely wins...it's just the way that game started I am hesitant to give them all the credit for Miami's poor showing. I'll definitely give them some.

Kent comes in with the best QB in the conference. Buffalo comes in with the best running game in the conference. So that is going to be one to watch.

Otherwise this is the hardest week for me to pick MAC games. Glad they are on weekend as I won't be tempted to try and force anything.

I feel like Akron...maybe...?
 
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A lot of movement in the Kent - Buffalo game. I'm seeing back down at 7.5 now. I believe I might be willing to trust Kent + the points. Although...defensively...does Kent have any? And nobody really plays good D in the MAC, but if one team does, it's Buffalo. Atleast so it appears. It's just so hard to gauge because Buffalo's D has looked as good as it has vs the likes of NIU, Miami and BG. Two of those three, NIU and BG, have been poor on O in most if not all their games this year. The week after UB played NIU, Huskies scored just 10 on CM before figuring out some things last week. Buffalo basically shutdown the BG O for 3 quarters...but so did Toledo and Kent....so is that any big feat? What UB did to Miami was pretty impressive, however, thinking back on that game, Miami left so many plays out on the field in that one, drops and overthrows were rampant for Miami early in that game when the game literally could've gone either way. Had Miami connected on some of those plays and got some early points, I think Buffalo was still superior and likely wins...it's just the way that game started I am hesitant to give them all the credit for Miami's poor showing. I'll definitely give them some.

Kent comes in with the best QB in the conference. Buffalo comes in with the best running game in the conference. So that is going to be one to watch.

Otherwise this is the hardest week for me to pick MAC games. Glad they are on weekend as I won't be tempted to try and force anything.

I feel like Akron...maybe...?
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the buffalo miami game I thought was noteworthy was Vantrease passed for 353 and last year he had 1 game above 200 yards - 208.against Eastern. Alot of the throws were great on point passes in contested coverage as well. Buffalo really turned it up against Miami and with a explosive pass game and if they have that passing consistently I think they could be up there with BYU as far as potential. .....matchup with kent I think is good for buffalo based on last year . LY was the epic maction style ending where buffalo was up with 2 scores lat and lost outright on onside kicks etc. (similar to toledo this year). I had both toledo and buffalo.....hoping buffalo comes through this year - if they dominate both run o and run d. I think kent is still a run based spread o instead of a pass so if buffalo can shut down the kent run is a big part of the play - but I am also feeling that buffalo may be down to some degree on defense to the standard they had last year.

last year score was 27-30 and I think it was only that low because buffalo was trying to sit on a lead and run it like they tend to do. If buffalo comes out motivated and can get the pass game going I think they at least see 42.
 
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the buffalo miami game I thought was noteworthy was Vantrease passed for 353 and last year he had 1 game above 200 yards - 208.against Eastern. Alot of the throws were great on point passes in contested coverage as well. Buffalo really turned it up against Miami and with a explosive pass game and if they have that passing consistently I think they could be up there with BYU as far as potential. .....matchup with kent I think is good for buffalo based on last year . LY was the epic maction style ending where buffalo was up with 2 scores lat and lost outright on onside kicks etc. (similar to toledo this year). I had both toledo and buffalo.....hoping buffalo comes through this year - if they dominate both run o and run d. I think kent is still a run based spread o instead of a pass so if buffalo can shut down the kent run is a big part of the play - but I am also feeling that buffalo may be down to some degree on defense to the standard they had last year.

last year score was 27-30 and I think it was only that low because buffalo was trying to sit on a lead and run it like they tend to do. If buffalo comes out motivated and can get the pass game going I think they at least see 42.
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I don’t think Kent has lost a game since beating Buffalo in that crazy game last year. Should be a good one. I think you way reaching comparing Buffalo with byu but certainly has nothing to do with the outcome here.
 
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I think Central's defense should do much better this week. Matching up vs Western's O is going to be tough for everyone in this league. Eastern can move the ball, but they are just different, like their best hope are some occasional chunk plays compared to Western's best are 60 yard house calls. Eastern is not an overwhelming group on O. And Eastern's D as a group isn't very good outside of one or two players.

Eastern is desperate for a win I just don't think they have it.
 
Central has been a pretty strong 2nd H team. Outscored Western 30-21, outscored NIU 31-10 and OU 10-7. If they happen to be trailing or close, depending on what has transpired to that point, I would probably feel good about CM 2nd H play.
 
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Circa opened Zips-4. I think they would've been -7 off the OU or Kent game, but off getting woodsheded by Miami it's 4. We won't discuss value. You are right, there is no value on a team that has lost 20 playing a team that has lost 7 straight and wno't win a game until 2021 or later even.

Oh, but wait...BG's last win was Akron and it was 35-6! Revenge! ;)
 
11/27 Recap

This one will surely be on the SVP Sportscenter bad beat segment as he had EM as one of his picks. EM led 17-6 HT, but CM had a TD called back by penalty where they settle for a FG (only penalty of the half) and also fumbled just before crossing the goal line. Those 11 points left off the board where the difference in the HT score. CM was on a 78y drive to open the 3rd Q when QB Richardson was tackled, badly injuring his leg and fumbling on the play at the E11. CM's next possession was SOD at the E01, making for just 3 points on 4 RZ trips at that point! The first key to the game was CM's RZ D on the other end. While CM struggled to score points, EM had 1st-and-goal at the 2 and 1st-and-goal at the 8 result in just two FGs keeping CM in the game. CM converted 4th down twice on a TD drive and after EM's two FGs the game was 23-14 early 4th Q. CM got a TD with under 5min left to trail by 2. The next key to the game were turnovers and back-to-back EM possessions. EM fumbled a pitch, CM fell on it but after having a 1st-and-goal at the 7, kicked a 21y FG to lead 24-23. On the first play of the next possession EM had a pass go off a diving receivers hands then bounce off a CM defender's helmet perfectly into the hands of another CM defender at the E32 with just 2:26 left. An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty backed it up to the E47. 4 running plays later CM was in the EZ to lead 31-23 with 1:36 left. EM was INT'd near midfield to end the game. CM outgained them 553-439 (5.9-6.5) including a 318-74 RY edge (5.6-2.4). EM lost 5 TOs, CM lost 3. CM ended with 8 RZ trips, scoring TDs on 3 and FGs on 2. EM was 5-for-5 RZ scoring, but also with just 2 TDs. CM had been converting just 23% of their 3rd down conversions entering this game, vs EM they got 47%. EM was 54%. Hutchinson 23-37-365-0-3, leading rusher 57y. Richarson 14-20-118-0-1 (injured) Brock (Sam Houston transfer) 9-15-62-0-0.

Central Michigan has now outscored every opponent in the 2nd H this year, a total of 87-44 including 56-20 in the 4th Q.
 
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11/28 Recaps

Buffalo RB Jarret Patterson ran for 156 yards and 3 TDs in the 1st Q and finished with school and MAC record 409 yards rushing which is the second highest in FBS history. Patterson averaged 11.8 ypc on 36 attempts. Patterson tied the NCAA record for TDs in a game at 8. No surprise he was named Walter Camp National Offensive POW. Patterson ran for 301 the game prior and has 920 yards and 16 TDs in just 4 games! Kent simply couldn't keep up. UB jumped out 14-0, although Kent fought back to 21-17 and 28-24. It was 35-24 HT with Kent being SOD in the RZ right before HT. Kent again cut it to a 4 point game early 3rd Q, but opted to punt on a 4th-and-1 and it was a runaway from there. UB got up 56-31, 63-34 and 70-41 F. UB did have one short field TD following the only turnover of the game. TY 663-578 (8.8-7.2) including 515-235 rushing yards (9.5-5.2). UB was 9-of-12 3rd down to Kent's 6-of-15. UB had many big scoring plays, but also when they were in the RZ they were a perfect 6-for-6 scoring TDs. Kent was just 4-of-7 scoring TDs in the RZ. Crum 22-32-343-3-1, leading rusher 13-76-TD. Kent had two 100y receivers. Vantrease 11-21-148-0-0. Second string UB RB Marks added 97y on 16att with 2 TDs. 70 points are an FBS high for Buffalo topping the 68 points they scored in a 7 OT game vs Western Michigan in 2017.

Was Western Michigan flat off their two big Toledo and Central games or is NIU getting better...or both? NIU started 11 freshman including 7 on defense while limiting WM 20 points and 200 yards below their season averages. A big part of it was NIU had a 40 to 20 minute TOP edge! NIU also converted 4-of-5 4th down attempts! WM was just 1-of-9 on 3rd down. NIU scored first with a FG, but WM went down for a TD. NIU went back on top using a fake punt along the way and two other 4th down conversions for the 10-7 lead (it was an 18p 75y 9+minute drive). NIU tried an onside kick setting up WM with good field position, but had to settle for a 30y FGA which was missed. WM went back up on the next possession, but missed the xpt...13-10. NIU drove back down for a TD, but Eskridge ret'd the ensuring KO...20-17 WM lead at HT. The 3rd Q saw 7 total punts, with NIU scoring the only points, a TD to retake a 24-20 lead. Later NIU kicked a 40y FG to go up 27-20! WM was able to tie with 9min left. WM started their final drive at the 50 and were able to kick the game winning 24y FG - 30-27 F. NIU outgained them 350-325 (4.4-6.6). Bowers 22-36-230-3-0, Richie 12rec-131-TD, top two RBs 32att-108. Eleby 12-24-210-1-0, Jefferson 15att-81-TD. Eskridge had a season high 285 all-purpose yards a week after being name MAC West O POW. He caught 7rec for 134y, ran a 27y reverse and had a 100y KO ret TD. Only two WM receivers caught passes. WM D had 5 sacks and 13 TFLs.

Ohio led 45-10 HT tying a Solich era high for points in the 1st H. One of OU's TDs was a 96y KO return. 10 of OU's points were set up by INTs, one in BG territory for a short field and the other set their kicker up with just :02 left in the half following a 52y INT return to the B13. OU scored a TD in the 3rd Q, BG had a 1st-and-goal at the O05, but were SOD. That was the second time BG was SOD in OU territory. OU's single TD was the only scoring of the 2nd H...52-10. OU ran for 355 (7.4) behind Tuggle's 185y on 15 att with 3 TDs and QB Rodgers adding 65 on 8 carries. BG did run for 181 (5.7) with Clair having 118 (7.9). Starting Bobcat QB Rourke was injured in the 2nd Q and Rodgers filled in the rest of the way. Before injury Rourke was 10-11-63-1-0 with 43y rushing. Rodgers only passed 2-3-14-1-0. OU outgained them 436-306 (6.9-5.8). BG and Ohio each had just 41y over their final 8 drives of the game. BG did throw a TD pass, the last FBS team to do so, but the Falcon passing O continues to struggle. McDonald 9-20-125-1-3.

After a couple games of encouraging play (relatively) out of Akron, Miami Ohio put their foot back down on the Zips who have now lost 21 straight games, leading 24-0 HT in the 38-7 F. Miami had a 416-145 yard edge (4.0-0.1). Akron ran 1 play in Miami territory in the 1st H! After Akron had rushed for over 200 yards in each of their previous two games, they ran for just net 4 yards! Sacked contributed as Redhawks registered 7! Still leading Zip RB Dollard who came in with 434 yards on the season with a strong 6.3 ypc ran for just 22y on 13 att. Brett Gabbert returned for Miami after being knocked out in their first game and he was sharp 18-27-308-4-1 and led the team with 48y rushing. WR Sorenson caught 8-177-4TD. Miami's Manny Rugamba had a 62y pick-six. Zip QB Gibson was just 16-27-141-1-1
 
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