Oklahoma State @ Texas Tech
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Sorry, thanks.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
You're right about Leach, but not going for 2 was just stupid. If Texas was lucky enough to run one back on the squib kick, a kicked XP would have won it for Texas. If Tech went for 2 then it would have been tied in that miracle situation. If Tech missed the 2 pt convo, they would have been in the same place as they were after kicking the XP.
Honestly, major brain fart.
The only thing I can think of, is that he believed he had the game won I guess?
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Yeah, just like the Tech students who rushed the field 9 times before the game was over.
RetroVK
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RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
I'm pissed. Again, going back to Facebook posts, later last night:
This morning:
TT controls its' destiny. But I think that somehow Texas wins the South. We hold all the tie-breakers so long as Tech loses at least one game to one of the Oklahoma schools.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Really? You would bet Oregon St SU against USC or Ole Miss SU against Florida?
I don't care where they play. USC and Florida win those games at least 70% of the time.
Honestly, I was expecting UT to run the last kick back just because Texas owns Tech historically. As for going for 2, why? The final score was 39-33. If we go for 2 and fail to convert, we are up 5. A UT touchdown wins the game with no extra point needed. Go for 1 and we are up 6. A UT touchdown and at least Tech has the chance to block (yeah....right) the extra point. Second guessing Coach Leach on playcalling is like second guessing Coach Mangino's ability to dominate a chinese buffet.
RetroVK
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We are still a handicapping site right ???
When i put up my rankings of the big12 they are based on teams playing one another on a neutral field. shrug.
Is there anyone here who makes tech a favorite in that scenario over texas ? oklahoma ? oklahoma st ?
As far as the game the other night ... tech was emotionally pumped the place was rocking and tech did jump out on texas ... and still tech almost lost that game. Fourth straight tough game for texas , so situationally it was bad for them. complete opposite scenario. grats to tech fans and backers but it is not burnt orange sunglasses that i am looking through..... my sunglasses are always tinted green for the color of money.
When i put up my rankings of the big12 they are based on teams playing one another on a neutral field. shrug.
Is there anyone here who makes tech a favorite in that scenario over texas ? oklahoma ? oklahoma st ?
As far as the game the other night ... tech was emotionally pumped the place was rocking and tech did jump out on texas ... and still tech almost lost that game. Fourth straight tough game for texas , so situationally it was bad for them. complete opposite scenario. grats to tech fans and backers but it is not burnt orange sunglasses that i am looking through..... my sunglasses are always tinted green for the color of money.
Thats a yes and no thing though.
One, the spot was HORRIBLE for Texas
Two, it was in Lubbock. This isn't divisional NFL football or other sports where you get home and homes. Some years, it just depends on location. Think back to 2006 brah..lol.
At that point in time, yes, they were better than them. And that point in time IS THE ONLY time that matters. You don't get multiple chances in a season. Its about performing when you're suppose to...that's sports...
RetroVK
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what percent do teams make the extra point again ?????
second guessing his playcalling ?!?!??!?!?!?!!? the guy pulled a les miles and almost lost his fg try by throwing deep on the last play ... tackle crabtree in bounds and the game ends ...... terrible coaching on CONSECUTIVE PLAYS .
Agree to disagree on that ... tech did a good job scheming defensively taking away some of texas preffered routes. will give them credit for that and harrell and crabtree are the nuts.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
After the Crabtree TD, it was 38-33.
With the XP pending, Leach had the following options and scenarios:
1. Go for 2 and make it. Score is 40-33, and a last miracle TD by Texas sends it to OT.
2. Go for 2 and miss it. Score is 38-33, and a last miracle TD by Texas loses the game 38-39 to Texas.
3. Go for 1 and make it. Score is 39-33 and a last miracle TD by Texas loses the game 39-40 to Texas only after Texas kicks their XP.
Given those three options, the no brainer is for Leach to go for 2. Like I said, major brain fart.
Agree here.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Exactly. :vk shake:
This shit happens so often in CFB RJ though its sick. No instances offhand but it happens ALOT.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
What does? Brain farts?
Anyways...............................................at least we can say this board looks at the games in many different ways. I guess it's a good thing.
I think the OSU/TTU game is going to be another situation of who has the ball last. Pettigrew is going to expose Tech's main weakness: the inability of our linebackers to defend the pass. I am not concerned about OSU's run game given the speed and ability to contain by our DE's on the classic OSU stretch running plays. Vegaskyle, I know you are good with trends..do you know the home team vs away team winning %. From recent memory, it seems as though OSU hasn't won in Lubbock for quite a while and vice versa for Tech in Stillwater..
I think the OSU/TTU game is going to be another situation of who has the ball last. Pettigrew is going to expose Tech's main weakness: the inability of our linebackers to defend the pass. I am not concerned about OSU's run game given the speed and ability to contain by our DE's on the classic OSU stretch running plays. Vegaskyle, I know you are good with trends..do you know the home team vs away team winning %. From recent memory, it seems as though OSU hasn't won in Lubbock for quite a while and vice versa for Tech in Stillwater..
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RetroVK
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i only know the recent history in lubbock , didnt go back further than that .
2006 tech wins 30-24
2004 tech wins 31-15
2002 tech wins 49-24
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
You're linebackers did pretty good for a half or almost 3 quarters taking away the short pass and run.
What really opened things up was when Greg Davis finally started going down field to Malcolm Williams. I forget what his line was but it was like 5 catches for 190 yards, including that 90+ yd stop and go.
Okie Lite can stretch you vertically like that too.
It'll be a good matchup and game. It's a toss up game, but I give Okie Lite a very good chance to win SU.
RetroVK
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So you think it comes down to the last possession ? So initial lean is to the dog ? Mine is as well.
Where do you guys think this line moves ?
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Noticed you and a couple others have definitely been high on the cowboys all season and riding them since week one....cashing in pretty frequently.
must have had a good feel for them...
they have not failed to cover a game this season
I assumed it would be at least Tech -7..The opening of 5 wasn't a surprise. The surprise for me is when yall say that it is already at -3. I thought the 5 would only inflate from public money thinking Crabtree is some kind of robot. Situationally, this game is a perfect let down game. The smart person says the Texas game was our Superbowl (because it was). For those who have their head in a hole, there isn't much else going on in Lubbock besides Texas Tech football. The students are already camped out again and the crowd should be exactly like it was Saturday. Any thoughts on a total??
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
I'm with you. That's why I didn't immediately jump on it. I thought public overreaction might be on Tech and drive it up to 6 or 7. But the low-level sharps (like us) are playing Okie Lite.
I think the line goes up slowly from here though until Thursday when Bob and Walters hammer Okie Lite.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Texas-TT scored 72. Total should be right around there.
SHSUHorn
Thief
I think they are saying TT wouldn't have won on the last second vs Texas on a neutral field, or in Austin without Texas best WR Quan Cosby, Texas best corner Chykie Brown (who would've covered Crabtree all game), without its two best defensive players majority of the second half in DE Brian Orakpo and DT Roy Miller, and with refs that actually knew what a holding call is since out of 60 pass plays Tech didn't get called for one holding play.
Of course I'm competley unbiased about this.
Kudos for Tech coming out like a team possesed especially that #93 kid on the DL.
Will they be able to field that kind of emotion one more week in a row? It was clear in the 4th quarter that defense was completley gassed. Any team with any kind of running attack should've taken advantage of it.
I like Okie St and I like OU to beat TT. If TT wins out us Longhorn fans can only take solice that he will be able to pick any job opening he wants. He probably still might be able to after that performance this past weekend. He is by far my second favorite coach in all of football. Love the guy.
Of course I'm competley unbiased about this.
Kudos for Tech coming out like a team possesed especially that #93 kid on the DL.
Will they be able to field that kind of emotion one more week in a row? It was clear in the 4th quarter that defense was completley gassed. Any team with any kind of running attack should've taken advantage of it.
I like Okie St and I like OU to beat TT. If TT wins out us Longhorn fans can only take solice that he will be able to pick any job opening he wants. He probably still might be able to after that performance this past weekend. He is by far my second favorite coach in all of football. Love the guy.
RetroVK
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Guessing he is a fun guy to have a beer with and i dont doubt his offensive mind ... but he makes some very sketchy ingame decisions ..... going for it on fourth a lot deep in his own end etc etc ... plus you know how i feel about his running up the score stuff. But i will stop there .. want to keep the thread on track and not spoil it with my leach negativity.
I am waiting on this game hoping the line creeps back up. Tech is a bettors darling but i am not sure okie st has failed to cover yet so they might get support too.
Aztec4Life
Montezuma Mesa Survivor
ynnhoj - I actually agree with RJ's Big 12 rankings...I think Tech just played out of their minds on defense Saturday night.
No way does TT come out as fired up as they were against Texas.
No way does TT come out as fired up as they were against Texas.
