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<TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#003366><TD width=225>Monday, September 08, 2008</TD><!-- <td width=80 bgcolor=#FFFFFF>GamePeriod<td> <td width=80 align=center>1stPeriod</td> <td width=80 align=center>2ndPeriod</td> <td width=80 align=center>3rdPeriod</td> <td width=55> </td> </tr>--><TR bgColor=#666666><TD align=middle colSpan=8>Line Changes made within the last 15 Minutes will have a Grey background.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>901</TD><TD width=160>Florida Marlins </TD><TD width=130>A Sanchez -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-155</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+130</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>902 </TD><TD width=160>Philadelphia Phillies </TD><TD width=130>J Blanton -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+135</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-150</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>7:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>905</TD><TD width=160>Cincinnati Reds </TD><TD width=130>E Volquez -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-160</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+130</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>906 </TD><TD width=160>Milwaukee Brewers </TD><TD width=130>D Bush -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+140</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>8½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-150</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>907</TD><TD width=160>Los Angeles Dodgers </TD><TD width=130>G Maddux -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½ </TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+110</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>7½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-120</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-150</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>908 </TD><TD width=160>San Diego Padres </TD><TD width=130>C Baek -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-130</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+100</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+130</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:15 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>909</TD><TD width=160>Arizona Diamondbacks </TD><TD width=130>Y Petit -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-135</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+165</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>910 </TD><TD width=160>San Francisco Giants </TD><TD width=130>T Lincecum -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+115</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>7</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-185</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>911</TD><TD width=160>Tampa Bay Rays </TD><TD width=130>E Jackson -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+175</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>912 </TD><TD width=160>Boston Red Sox </TD><TD width=130>J Lester -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-210</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>913</TD><TD width=160>Cleveland Indians </TD><TD width=130>F Carmona -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½ </TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+115</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>10½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-135</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>914 </TD><TD width=160>Baltimore Orioles </TD><TD width=130>G Olson -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-135</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+115</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>6:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>915</TD><TD width=160>Oakland Athletics </TD><TD width=130>G Gonzalez -L</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-140</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+150</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>916 </TD><TD width=160>Detroit Tigers </TD><TD width=130>Z Miner -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+120</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-170</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>7:10 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>917</TD><TD width=160>Toronto Blue Jays </TD><TD width=130>A Burnett -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-180</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+110</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>918 </TD><TD width=160>Chicago White Sox </TD><TD width=130>J Vazquez -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+160</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-125</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-130</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#363636><TD width=215 colSpan=2>9:05 pm </TD><TD width=130>Pitchers</TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>RunLine </TD><TD width=80 colSpan=2>Total </TD><TD width=80>MoneyLn </TD><TD width=40></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=#000000 cellSpacing=0 width=625 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>919</TD><TD width=160>New York Yankees </TD><TD width=130>C Pavano -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-180</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000></TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-115</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>+105</TD><TD width=40></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#000000><TD align=middle width=55>920 </TD><TD width=160>Los Angeles Angels </TD><TD width=130>J Garland -R</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-1½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>+160</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>9½</TD><TD width=40 bgColor=#000000>-105</TD><TD width=80 bgColor=#000000>-125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cleveland at Baltimore
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>F Carmona
G Olson
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Oakland at Detroit
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>G Gonzalez
Z Miner
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at Boston
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>E Jackson
J Lester
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:11 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Toronto at Chi. White Sox
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>AJ Burnett
J Vazquez
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>NY Yankees at LA Angels
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>C Pavano
J Garland
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Florida at Philadelphia
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>A Sanchez
J Blanton
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cincinnati at Milwaukee
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>E Volquez
D Bush
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Pittsburgh at Houston
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>I Snell
A Arias
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>LA Dodgers at San Diego
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>G Maddux
C Baek
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:15 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Arizona at San Francisco
Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Y Petit
T Lincecum
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Since the All-Star break, Florida is...

18-7 SU off a loss (10-6 SU off their last 16 losses)
4-18 SU off a win (1-14 SU off their last 15 wins)


They play Monday off a loss on Sunday.
 
Baltimore's last 19 games of offense -

3, 16, 3, 2, 11, 4, 3, 7, 3, 3, 11, 3, 9, 4, 4, 2, 4, 2 & 1 run totals.

_4 totals of 0-2 runs.
10 totals of 3-4 runs (52.6%)
_5 totals of 5+ runs.

Baltimore has now gone 20 games w/out posting consecutive 5+ run totals.

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Baltimore has gone 88 games without posting consecutive Under results.
They are 57-24-7 to Over during this period and are 20-0-3 to Over off their last 23 Under results, and play Monday off an Under result on Saturday.

Baltimore has registered at least 1 Over result in their last 39 series.
 
Ever since Jason Bay got his 1st "settling-in" game for Boston out of the way, the Red Sox have scored -

12, 5, 3, 8, 8, 3, 6, 5, 5, 19, 8, 10, 1, 4, 6, 7, 6, 8, 0, 6, 7, 11, 2, 8, 8, 2, 7, 14, 5, 8, 8 & 7 run totals

_4 totals of 0-2 runs
_3 totals of 3-4 runs
25 totals of 5+ runs (78.1%)
 
Angels this season are 4-6 in first game home off a road trip. Garland has given up 5 runs in each of his last 4 games. Angels are more tired than usual after the 15 inning game and see Yanks with something of a pen edge. Playing Yanks first half and game and probably over.
Angels 4-6 at home this season at home on Monday. Have now seen 5 people posting Angels whose closer Rodriquez has pitched the last 2 days.
Arizona has lost 7 in a row on the road as well as 11 of their last 15 games. I wonder how many more they can lose.
 
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Tampa Bay has lost all 6 times they’ve faced the Red Sox on Yawkey Way this season and 8 straight going back to 2007. They’re 23-67 all-time in Fenway.

Rays pitchers have a 7.88 ERA in Boston this season. Their hitters are batting .229 and have scored just 16 runs in 6 games.

Boston has its three best pitchers lined up to face the Rays – Jon Lester, Daisuke Matsuzaka and Josh Beckett, fresh off the disabled list. The Rays plan to counter with Edwin Jackson (0-2, 10.00 ERA this season in Fenway), Scott Kazmir (0-1, 6.75) and Andy Sonnanstine, who hasn’t faced Boston this season but is 1-1 with a 8.85 ERA lifetime against Boston.


The wise guys say this is where the Red Sox, winners of two of the last four World Series, blow right past the Rays, who have been terrific at home (53-21) but are in a stretch in which they play just seven of their last 24 games at Tropicana Field.
 
Phillly . Pitt . Cincy .

Possibly looking to continue fading Balt but maybe over as well , fade DET think they maybe like 2-8 L10 at home vs LHSP...., hard to pass on Lester and Boston , both WSox and Jays playing well but prefer the WS here and maybe 1st 5 inn under ..,LAD , LAA and maybe even Zona depending on SFG lineup......

Just thoughts
 
Brewers have scored 10 runs in their last 5 games. Covers chart favors the Reds as does their history this year at the site. The play does make sense as do the Red Sox. Red Sox if you actually lose would make a rare but very reasonable chase. Think I need considerably more time on other mentioned plays. Do like Oakland but usually like a starting pitcher. Have much too weak a stomach so far to play Blanton as a home favorite against a reasonable team. Mostly I need to think more but have got down on the first 2 plays on 5 d's reduced rate.
 
Anibal Sanchez of the Marlins was absolutely awful in his last start. I watched it and he was completely missing spots and leaving pitches out over the plate. In his last 14.3 innings, he has allowed 14 earned runs and I can't imagine that he is suddenly going to straighten things out. He has 12 walks in his last 19.3 innings. There is something mechanically wrong. Bazooka Joe Blanton hasn't been razor sharp either. In his last 25.7 innings, he has allowed 15 earned runs. I am definitely leaning to the over here even without the umpire info.
 
Probably soldified a PHILLY ML play for me GH ...

Gona probably ride TB and OAK MLs though.....Boston seems to easy but huge game for TB here and fading DET at home vs LHSP....:cheers:
 
Also FLA now 3-9 away vs RHSP since 1st of August ...

WINS :
Nolasco @ SF vs Correia basically an automatic
Josh Johnson @ SHEA to avoid the sweep vs whipping boy Mike Pelfrey
Nolasco @ STL vs Looper in extra innings they won 4-1 .....

9 Losses:
@ Philly vs kendrick L5-0
@ SF vs Cain L6-5 and Palmer L4-3
@ Zona vs Petit L7-1
@ ATL vs Jurrjens L10-9 and Morton L4-2
@ STL vs wellenemyer L5-3 and Wainright 3-1...
@ Shea vs Stokes L8-6

Not exactly tons of solid RH either
Philly 8-1 at home vs RHSP since dropping 2 of 3 vs FLA RHSP.....
 
Kind of scary though, Philly opened at -145ish and I'm seeing it as high as -180 in some spots now. Is the public on them THAT much? Or are there some heavy guys out there pounding them that much?
 
SportsNut said:
Probably soldified a PHILLY ML play for me GH ...

Gona probably ride TB and OAK MLs though.....Boston seems to easy but huge game for TB here and fading DET at home vs LHSP....:cheers:
Click to expand...

I feel you on Philly...I just never lay more than -140. GL.:shake:
 
SportsNut said:
Gona probably ride TB and OAK MLs though.....and fading DET at home vs LHSP....:cheers:
Click to expand...

More inclined to play Eveland tomorrow than Gonzalez today. Gonzalez doesn't throw strikes....22 walks in 26 innings and constantly behind in counts
 
Have my biggest play with OAK ML (some RL and 1st 5 inn as well, small under ) .

The problem with that was OAK is terrible on the road vs LHSP like 6-14 last I checked ...

Played Philly and Charlie I think they opened cheap IMO. Last time Sanchez came to Philly the line was -150 and both he and his offense have regressed since then when they lost 5-0 to Kendrick who is comparative to Blanton IMO...

BOL all....have Phily and TB as well ...leaning towards Pitt and Cincy MLs have played played props Pitt 1st score and inn YES score...
 
I would've felt better if Sanchez had made it out of the 2nd inning tonight so that we would've gotten more at-bats against him.
 
am i strange to like AZ a bit tonight? Motivation wise, this is a must win for them with the dodgers puling ahead and playing a weak SD lineup with their ex-pitcher on the mound
 
I dabbled on Zona as well late . Was thinking about SD / UND @ SD and LAA ML but just felt like I forced so much on bases today actually tightened up and passed ...lol...played ZONA ML and 1st 5 inn over with a slightily bigger play on over 7.5 +105 which I need to hit ...pretty shit job by me in bases to be honest was all about football today and it showed in my lackluster research....Oak had there chance but Gio Gonzalez was terrible all I wanted was 5 inn and 3 runs allowed ...TB was a reach but kinda felt it was a huge game for them and teams who were swept sometimes suprise in game 1s...didnt happen as RS got 3 early and thats all they needed...Pitt and Cincy split butlost the props...:cheers:
 
Well crap day which could have been okay had I just played the late games . Thankfully over hit at Zona in the t9th a crummy loss for under backers though . Lost 4 units on sides and totals and anothe 2 units on props so not that bad considering ..did very well in the NFL though for a solid day..
 
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