Monday Discussion/Thoughts

[BetCrimes1984]

<TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=wht-title bgColor=#16177c><TD colSpan=3>Game</TD><TD noWrap>Run Line</TD><TD noWrap>Money Line</TD><TD noWrap>Total Runs</TD><TD>More </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>901</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Milwaukee Brewers
C Villanueva
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +126 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-129 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -127 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>902</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Pittsburgh Pirates
T. Armas
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -136 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+121 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 +117 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>903</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Washington Nationals
S. Hill
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -211 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+103 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -118 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>904</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Florida Marlins
S. Olsen
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +191 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-111 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 +108 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>905</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Colorado Rockies
U Jimenez
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+120 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 11 +112 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>906</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Philadelphia Phillies
K. Lohse
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +155 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-128 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 11 -122 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>907</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Atlanta Braves
T. Hudson
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -219 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-107 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 -116 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>908</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>New York Mets
OL. Perez
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +199 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-101 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 +106 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>909</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Arizona D-Backs
L. Hernandez
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -168 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+133 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 8.5 -105 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:15 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>910</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>San Francisco Giants
T. Lincecum
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +158 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-141 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 8.5 -105 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>911</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Tampa Bay Devil Rays
S. Kazmir
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -133 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+157 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>912</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Boston Red Sox
C. Schilling
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +123 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -116 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>913</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Toronto Blue Jays
R. Halladay
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +146 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-109 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 +104 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>04:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>914</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Detroit Tigers
K. Rogers
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -156 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+101 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 -114 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>915</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Minnesota Twins
B. Bonser
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +139 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-111 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 +106 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>916</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Kansas City Royals
B. Buckner
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -149 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+103 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -116 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>917</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Cleveland Indians
F. Carmona
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 -105 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-165 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9.5 -108 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>05:10 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>918</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago White Sox
G. Floyd
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -105 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+157 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9.5 -102 </TD><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>919</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Oakland Athletics
J. Blanton
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+1.5 -183 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+107 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>OVER 9 -122 <TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#d0d0d0><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>07:05 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>920</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Seattle Mariners
H. Ramirez
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-1.5 +173 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-115 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>UNDER 9 +112 </TD><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Mon 9/10</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>921</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>St Louis Cardinals
J. Pineiro
</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>+127 </TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>12:20 PM</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>922</TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>Chicago Cubs
T. Lilly
<TD class=main_body_blk noWrap></TD><TD class=main_body_blk noWrap>-135 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE borderColor=#cccccc cellSpacing=1 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>American League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Toronto at Detroit
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>R Halladay
K Rogers
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Tampa Bay at Boston
Home Plate Umpire: N/A

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>S Kazmir
C Schilling
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Minnesota at Kansas City
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>B Bonser
B Buckner
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>8:11 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Cleveland at Chi. White Sox
Home Plate Umpire: N/A

</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>F Carmona
G Floyd
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Oakland at Seattle
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Blanton
H Ramirez
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb colSpan=3>National League </TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Time</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Game</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans bgColor=#ffdccb>Starters</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>3:20 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>St. Louis at Chi. Cubs
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>J Pineiro
T Lilly
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Washington at Florida
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>S Hill
S Olsen
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Colorado at Philadelphia
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>U Jimenez
K Lohse
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:05 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Milwaukee at Pittsburgh
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>C Villanueva
T Armas
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>7:10 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Atlanta at NY Mets
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>T Hudson
O Perez
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=small-copy-sans>10:15 PM ET </TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>Arizona at San Francisco
Home Plate Umpire: N/A
</TD><TD class=small-copy-sans>L Hernandez
T Lincecum
Bullpen Availability
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[YesSir]

Milky, ATL, SEA....

 

[BetCrimes1984]

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AMERICAN LEAGUE - all stats based on opening lines
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Cleveland has lost only 1 of it's last 24 road games by a 3+ run margin.

The Favourite is 12-3-1 in Cleveland's last 16 games.

Cleveland is U/O 17-6 at an average of 7.34 runs in their last 23 road games (26.1% Overs).

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The CWS are U/O 10-3 at an average of 8.77 runs in their last 13 games.


In the 15 previous games between Cleveland and the CWS this season, they are....

O/U 8-1 at an average of 12.88 runs when both teams score at least 2 runs.

U/O 6-0 at an average of 5.16 runs when 1 team is held to 0 or 1 run.

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Detroit is 16-15 SU off a loss since the AS break, as opposed to 9-16 SU off a win.

Detroit is O/U 4-1 at an average of 14.80 runs in a home game off a 7+ run loss this season.

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Toronto is 18-9 SU on the road off their last 27 road losses.

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Seattle is 2-13 SU their last 15 games.

Seattle has conceded an average of 7.90 runs in their last 10 losses.

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14 of Oakland's last 18 road games have been decided by 3+ run margins.

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Boston is 9-3 SU vs Tampa Bay this season, their only losses coming in Game 3s.

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Tampa Bay is 12-4 SU their last 16 games, but during this present stretch are 3-3 SU off consecutive wins.

Tampa Bay is 1-9 SU playing a road game off a home game this season.

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Minnesota is 7-5 SU in their last 12 road games vs 5-7 SU in their last 12 home games.

Minnesota is 1-8 SU in road games decided by 1-2 runs since the AS break.

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Texas is 12-2 SU their last 14 games.

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NATIONAL LEAGUE - all stats based on opening lines
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The Mets are U/O 11-4-1 at an average of 8.87 runs in their last 16 games.

The road team is 8-4 SU in the last 12 meetings between the Mets and the Braves.

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Atlanta is 7-2 SU in a road game off a home game this season.

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The Cubs are 2-5 SU in their last 7 home Game 1s.

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Saint Louis is 1-8 SU in their last 9 road games decided by a 1-2 run margin.

Saint Louis is U/O 7-3 at an average of 8.00 runs in their last 10 road games.

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Colorado is O/U 9-1-2 at an average of 12.08 runs in their last 12 road Game 1s.

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Philadelphia is 9-4 SU in home games decided by 1-2 runs since the AS break.

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Arizona is 6-3 SU on the road vs NL teams, when coming off a home game.

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Cincinnati is 7-2 SU in their last 9 home games vs teams not from New York.

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Milwaukee is 3-7 SU in their last 10 road games.

Milwaukee is 2-6 SU in their last 8 Game 1s.

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Florida is 0-20 SU when held to 3 runs or less since the AS break.

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[mvp13]

like the braves and the ova tonite :smiley_acbe:

 

[tuck321]

BC and I may be thinking along the same lines here. When I made up my early lines I had Pitt listed as a 24 cent favorite. Current line looks pretty silly to me. Bay may be out is a real negative. Fairly even pens. Last 10 on the road Brewers have scored 51 runs while last 10 at home Pitt has scored 55. Bullington is set to go tomorrow for Pitt which is a real positive for a play on Pitt today. Killer Sports has an angle up showing that the Brewers as a road fav over 20 cents are 0-9 after scoring at least 6 runs. Let me just say that teams that are 15 games under 500 on the road do not seem to make sense as a true road fav. Especially at a site where they are 6-14 last 20. Playing Pitt ml.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

I've all but sworn off the NL central playing with itself, tuck. Its when they play "outsiders" that they're getting exposed bigtime (my, isnt Saint Louis impressive).

 

[barmeezee]

BC gimme a good total for tonight..

 

[BetCrimes1984]

I dunno bout good, it has its flaws. But I'm on Over 8.5 in Detroit for small.

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in 2.5 innings, 2 runners at 3rd with less than 2 outs stranded, 2 DPs, and 2 of the better offensive players have left the game with injuries.
Can anyone say, not Over's night?

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Bot of the 3rd ends w/another runner stranded at 3.

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Top of the 4th, 1 out, runners on 2 & 3 - how do we fuck up this time? injuries to both runners?

A clutch 2 out hit, unbelievable. Another runner stranded at 3rd due to a 1st pitch swing & out.

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Bot of the 5th, yet another runner stranded at 3rd, yet another 1st pitch out. Gary Sheffield is going to strand his entire team on base this game.

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16 hits inside 6 innings, for 3 runs? Over has been well and truly hosed.

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Sheffield up, 2 on, 2 out, bot of the 9th, need 1 to win.

And he's personally stranded a boatload tonight. Brilliant. Sums up this total perfectly.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

Over hits in Detroit, somehow.

Over 9.5 in Seattle, for small.

 

[scourge]

you're so fucking lucky BC I got Over 9 +110

just glad the tigers won

 

[BetCrimes1984]

scourge - you were so unlucky. The amount of baserunners & RISP that game had, it could have totaled twice as much.

 

[BetCrimes1984]

my 2nd 4 run 9th inning delivers my 2nd Over of the day.

thank you, Detroit & Oakland

 

[BetCrimes1984]

BC and I may be thinking along the same lines here. When I made up my early lines I had Pitt listed as a 24 cent favorite. Current line looks pretty silly to me. Bay may be out is a real negative. Fairly even pens. Last 10 on the road Brewers have scored 51 runs while last 10 at home Pitt has scored 55. Bullington is set to go tomorrow for Pitt which is a real positive for a play on Pitt today. Killer Sports has an angle up showing that the Brewers as a road fav over 20 cents are 0-9 after scoring at least 6 runs. Let me just say that teams that are 15 games under 500 on the road do not seem to make sense as a true road fav. Especially at a site where they are 6-14 last 20. Playing Pitt ml.

nice hit, tuck:cheers: