Monday 02/09/15 NBA discussion thread

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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]04:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+4.5 1.961[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.639[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-14.5 1.909[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]04:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+14.5 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+5.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 2.940[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-5.5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Atlanta Hawks[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]05:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Minnesota Timberwolves[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+5.5 2.000[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]05:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-5.5 2.000[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"] 1.487[/TD]
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Btw, Tuck - as days of the week guy, you should be all over the Hawks today, no?
 
No way... Toronto were 7.5 points favorites against the Nets. Bucks are good, but are they Toronto Raptors good in the eyes of the public/ bookies?
 
Regarding Atlanta they will be playing worst 3 in 4, worst 4 in 6 and they be playing their 8th game in 13 days.
Minn will actually be playing under Worst rest but some of their players are actually fresh and very determined to make up for a really terrible season. Here is a interesting concept. Days of the week is just 1 tool and you handicap a total situation now Divol you have stated that Atlanta is no better than the Suns and I think that Minn would slaughter the Suns so---
Of course we all know that Atlanta is much better than the Suns
 
By the way I am not saying I will play this but I might. Oilers tomorrow in Hockey would be an excellent days of week play getting 65 cents
 
divol said:
No way... Toronto were 7.5 points favorites against the Nets. Bucks are good, but are they Toronto Raptors good in the eyes of the public/ bookies?
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I don't think the bookies have the Bucks as high in PR nor the Nets as low. So they may a window for me to place a bet.
 
CASH said:
i would also pay attention to a tyreke evans prop if offered...
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New Orleans will be w/out Tyreke, Ryan Anderson and AD tonight.

Locked in 5 units on UTAH +6 1 on UTAH +205 and 3 on UNDER 190. Will be doing some buy back as the news trickles and the line and total drop.
 
I am having some trouble with the OKC bet. OKC is being made a 6 point road favorite. Some of the ref's like Violet seem poor for the bet. OKC is playing worst 4 in 6 and worst 3 in 4 at Denver while Denver is playing at home playing their 2 game in 5 days. Denver is 4-1 SU in their last 5 home games vs OKC and they have been blown up by 10 or more points in 5 straight games and they have 2 players that might be out.
The driving force behind the bet is that Denver on 2 days rest this season is 0-9 ATS. That is not silly but it is not a force of nature and OKC shows up at 82% for the public. For the time being I have that on hold.
 
I have no doubt about that myself after reading Andre Miller talk about him but I think I still need to do some reading.
 
Watch the last 4 games. He calls plays, Ty runs something else. Defense scheme non-existant compared to first 2 months of season.
 
smh212 said:
I think one can make the case that Brian Shaw has lost the team.
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I don't know about Shaw...
He lost his team last season, traded Miller - but didn't help.
This season, Denver goes on losing and winning streaks. It's obvious that Shaw doesn't have a handle on his team, but it also doesn't appear as if the team tries to get Shaw canned.
Denver and Knicks are the same in my eyes. Streaking teams without any reason...
 
smh212 said:
Watch the last 4 games. He calls plays, Ty runs something else. Defense scheme non-existant compared to first 2 months of season.
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Not exactly stats wise.
October, November and December stats:
13-19 (-3.03, 40.6%)
11-21-0 (-2.16, 34.4%) avg line: 0.9

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Team37.4143.018.9173.87.7831.64.6213.0045.7824.0320.8114.4425.724.425.824.6101.5
Opp37.8444.921.0674.57.7834.35.7810.5043.7821.3821.9412.6927.226.525.124.8 104.5

January and February stats:
SU:6-13 (-4.42, 31.6%)
ATS:8-10-1 (-2.37, 44.4%)

Team 36.9543.217.5874.76.8431.74.7910.7944.4221.5322.8913.2124.922.225.824.998.3
Opp38.6845.318.2176.47.1633.76.0511.1646.5819.7423.3712.9524.925.625.426.2 102.7

In the first two months they covered less ATS and conceded 2 points more...
 
Nets face Kidd today and Hollins faces Memphis tomorrow. Wonder what game is more important to the players. Somehow I feel it's the Memphis game...
 
Teams got 2 games till the ASG break, I would assume that many playoffs teams, playing outsiders, will really be focusing on that W.
I'm sure that Thunder would like to win both (very tough games), Denver on the road in B2B tonight and Memphis at home on Wednesday.
 
smh212 said:
New Orleans will be w/out Tyreke, Ryan Anderson and AD tonight.

Locked in 5 units on UTAH +6 1 on UTAH +205 and 3 on UNDER 190. Will be doing some buy back as the news trickles and the line and total drop.
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source?
 
they are staging out rest for Rubio and Pek, so agree he will likely sit next game after a big game yesterday against the 'stons. Rubio has looked great since he came back. He's actually made a few buckets.
 
I might have to pass on the Oiler game. Scrivens in goal off 11 losses in a row on the road
 
P-Unit said:
they are staging out rest for Rubio and Pek, so agree he will likely sit next game after a big game yesterday against the 'stons. Rubio has looked great since he came back. He's actually made a few buckets.
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looks like they running Wiggins hard every night? 40+ minutes?? they say anything about that up there?
 
CASH said:
looks like they running Wiggins hard every night? 40+ minutes?? they say anything about that up there?
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not really. Flip realizes he's hit the rookie wall and teaching him to deal with it from a consistency perspective. He's going to have off nights and then tends to come back strong the next game after Flip gets on him. They are determined to not let him get into any bad habits and to be aggressive every night. He's going to be great and they know it.
 
P-Unit said:
not really. Flip realizes he's hit the rookie wall and teaching him to deal with it from a consistency perspective. He's going to have off nights and then tends to come back strong the next game after Flip gets on him. They are determined to not let him get into any bad habits and to be aggressive every night. He's going to be great and they know it.
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i do like that approach, just hope he doesn't get hurt - it is a lot of minutes but with some bodies coming back it should knock a few minutes off ..
 
+17 yesterday and back to even for the year:

Twolves +7 - xxl
1h over 98 - large

1h mavs over 104 - max
Jazz TT over 92 - max
 
Philadelphia has now covered their last 5 home games. It is their last game before the break and they have a large rest edge. The spread is now 16 and GS is now 3-8 ATS in their last 11 road games and this game will be 5 in 7.
 
smh212 said:
New Orleans will be w/out Tyreke, Ryan Anderson and AD tonight.

Locked in 5 units on UTAH +6 1 on UTAH +205 and 3 on UNDER 190. Will be doing some buy back as the news trickles and the line and total drop.
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Anderson news out. Waiting for the confirmation on Tyreke. Think he will be valued at a point on the line, which currently sits at 3.5 188. I think we see 2.5 186 before tip.
 
Had GS not gotten reamed by Kerr for the "show" they tried putting on in NYC, I would think their focus really be fucked. Still think 16 is too many.
 
Clippers on the road as dogs, have yet to lose, but cover this season.
If they lose SU as dogs, they will lose ATS as well.
 
lean the clipps tonight +9.. they either get blown out or this comes down to the last 2 minutes..
 
smh212 said:
Anderson news out. Waiting for the confirmation on Tyreke. Think he will be valued at a point on the line, which currently sits at 3.5 188. I think we see 2.5 186 before tip.
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Please don't kill the messager but I think Tyreke is playing. of course checking again goes without saying. Good Luck you have some nice stuff going on there.
 
Been running okay lately and the last time I said that I went 2-3 well lets do it again.

Spurs -4.5, Atlanta -6.5, Orlando +9.5 (Same as the Boston play the other night to those that remember).
College Ball Baylor -6
 
Tobias Harris (knee) will not play Monday against the Wizards

Aaron Gordon will start Monday against the Wizards


Bradley Beal (toe) will not play on Monday.

James Ennis (knee) and Shawne Williams (ankle) will not play against the Knicks on Monday.

Dwyane Wade (hamstring) will not play against the Knicks on Monday and Hassan Whiteside (ankle) is a game-time decision.

Zaza Pachulia (calf) will play Monday against the Nets.

Garrett Temple will start Monday against the Magic.

Manu Ginobili will not play Monday against the Pacers.

Alexis Ajinca will start Monday against the Jazz.
 
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and now some weather updates:

All MBTA rail services will be suspended at 7 p.m. Monday. This means no subway, trolleys or Commuter Rail trains will depart Boston after 7 Monday night, and all day Tuesday.


Limited MBTA bus service will continue until the end of regular service hours on Monday, but customers are advised that connections to subway and Commuter Rail lines will not be available.


MBTA officials announced late Monday afternoon that at T service would be suspended all day Tuesday, All public transportation in MA.

Million+ people affected
 
Paulie The Vig said:
Please don't kill the messager but I think Tyreke is playing. of course checking again goes without saying. Good Luck you have some nice stuff going on there.
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Thanks Paulie. I think Tyreke will be announce after the shoot around. Line down to 3. We'll see
 
bucks should win by a comfortable margin I would think

minn maybe but.....small bet because i'm not sure

dall because the clips are in a major funk....that shit happens when you have chris paul on your team

can't see jazz losing although pels surprise me at times

wanna gamble on nuggs/okc tonight because i am in denver and may go over and watch but i have no clue....would take an opinion
 
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