Monday 01/25/16 NBA discussion thread

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[divol]

What a bummer... Timmy is out on Monday...

 

[cogenman]

What a bummer... Timmy is out on Monday...

Pops playing games. We've seen it before. No way he can say he's doing it for rest. They had Saturday and Sunday off. And the game on Friday against the Lakers he only played 21 minutes. That's ok the Warriors gonna keep doing what they do.

 

[nbafan88]

That's ok the Warriors gonna keep doing what they do.

Keep losing to the Spurs?

 

[cogenman]

Keep losing to the Spurs?

Keep winning this year. You wanna side bet, let me know.

 

[cogenman]

Totals wise, the 3 games last year between the Spurs and Warriors totaled 213, 209, and 199 with the final score.

 

[divol]

Last year... 25.01 (like today). Bulls play at home, off a rest, off a road win as an underdog, 8 points favorites against... the Heat... Result? 84 - 96 in Heat's favor...
Will history repeat?

 

[divol]

Cleveland take Wolves a bit more seriously than most other weak rivals. Love and Wiggins also usually excel against their former teams.

 

[Montanas]

Cavs roll imo they missed easy buckets and ft's last game bounce back game for them, lean Pelicans for now

 

[Montanas]

Spurs 12-1 ATS after they failed to cover this season

 

[emkee]

Spurs 12-1 ATS after they failed to cover this season

And of those 13 games only 2 teams had a winning record (Grizzlies and Mavericks), and both those games were at home.

They were also never an underdog and expected to win those games.

 

[Frank Costanza]

Cavs roll imo they missed easy buckets and ft's last game bounce back game for them, lean Pelicans for now

They were lethargic and almost appeared disinterested against the Bulls. Weird because one figured they'd show up ready to go in Lue's debut. Not so, at all.

 

[divol]

I like many teams ML, but really hard to trust them to cover. Memphis, Kings, Atlanta - all should do the job at least SU - probably will make a parlay of some sort.

Took Cleveland in a teaser and also took them TT Over small and Cleveland -13 small.

SAS took in a teaser as well. Can win this one SU as well (or get blown by 30+ points ).

Leaning towards Under in Washington...

Tough card to cap for me. A lot of games, a lot of leans, nothing rock solid. Would probably make many small plays and wait to actually see the games live...

 

[Montanas]

Looking at the injured hornets tonight without key starters upfront I dont see how they stop big cuz, waiting for props from dimes to release guessing 30? He's avg 32 last 3 games and playing lights out also scored 30 against hornets in a OT loss. Not worried about fouls he's been more calm lately because his team is winning

 

[nbafan88]

Keep winning this year. You wanna side bet, let me know.

lol i was just joking around :rofl:


i've been looking forward to this game for over a month.... its kind of sad we had to wait this long into the season for the best two teams in the league to play..... should be awesome

 

[nbafan88]

Last year... 25.01 (like today). Bulls play at home, off a rest, off a road win as an underdog, 8 points favorites against... the Heat... Result? 84 - 96 in Heat's favor...
Will history repeat?

i love the heat tonight...

 

[nbafan88]

Looking at the injured hornets tonight without key starters upfront I dont see how they stop big cuz, waiting for props from dimes to release guessing 30? He's avg 32 last 3 games and playing lights out also scored 30 against hornets in a OT loss. Not worried about fouls he's been more calm lately because his team is winning

the kings are gellin right now .... the hornets defense does not travel well.... at all... kings tt over is what im leaning there

 

[hugh613]

So Tyronn Lue wants to play at a faster pace, but...

Based on Cleveland's success playing at a slow pace, however, it's curious to see how that vision is necessary for the Cavs. Cleveland went 23-5 in games this season when it used 90-99 possessions under David Blatt, versus just a 3-7 record when it used 100 possessions or more, according to ESPN Stats & Information.

"I don't know. We don't know," said LeBron James when asked for an explanation for the shift, given the team's solid track record playing with the 28th-ranked pace in the league (95 possessions per game). "This is what Coach [Lue] wants. This is what Coach wants to do, and this is what we're going to do. This isn't a LeBron thing. I'm talking out of IQ of the game, but this is what Coach wants to do, so this is what we're going to do."

Think that probably plays to the T-Wolves advantage a bit as turnovers should come in bunches until the Cavs get used to it. Having said that, Ricky Rubio's one of the few players in the league who could turn the ball over on a 2-0 break, so who knows...

 

[emkee]

Cavs have locker-room issues.

Kyrie was a Blatt supporter along with a few other guys.

Lue is Doc Rivers 2.8 and has blood on his hands.

Is a spot they should bounceback but I need to see it before they give back the money they have stolen off me this season.

 

[Lareux]

Cavs have locker-room issues.

Kyrie was a Blatt supporter along with a few other guys.

Lue is Doc Rivers 2.8 and has blood on his hands.

Is a spot they should bounceback but I need to see it before they give back the money they have stolen off me this season.

Agreed. I still can't get over the fact they gave Lue a 3 year contract. What in the world was that even necessary for at this point? Said it before, the issue with that team is Gilbert and will be until he sells the team. It ALWAYS starts at the top.

 

[nbafan88]

Agreed. I still can't get over the fact they gave Lue a 3 year contract. What in the world was that even necessary for at this point? Said it before, the issue with that team is Gilbert and will be until he sells the team. It ALWAYS starts at the top.

:shake:

 

[emkee]

Love will be traded soon, you can smell it. Wouldn't be shocked if they explore offers for Kyrie as well.

LeBron is Chip Kelly, good thing for him the East sucks.

 

[emkee]

Cavs can't win a 'ship with Kyrie and Love on the floor, worst defensive all-star tandem in quite sometime.

One or both will go. Gilbert shopping for 'Team LeBron' players, only a few in the league.

Will be a huge embarrassment for all parties if LeBron can't deliver a trophy in the next 1-2 seasons.

 

[Montanas]

Love will be traded soon, you can smell it. Wouldn't be shocked if they explore offers for Kyrie as well.

LeBron is Chip Kelly, good thing for him the East sucks.

Love for Korver they need him bad

 

[hugh613]

Love will be traded soon, you can smell it. Wouldn't be shocked if they explore offers for Kyrie as well.

LeBron is Chip Kelly, good thing for him the East sucks.

Ha ha. Never saw this the day Blatt was fired...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How surprised were Cavs players today? When team meeting was called, some players speculated Kevin Love had been traded</p>&mdash; Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/690668130868195328">January 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[hugh613]

Love belongs in the Western Conference. Maybe Phoenix for Markieff Morris, or Memphis for Randolph.

 

[geezer]

Love possibly ... Kyrie never

 

[nbafan88]

Love for Korver they need him bad

who needs who bad?

why would the hawks trade korver?

 

[nbafan88]

Took the pelicans/kings ML parlay +100

 

[hugh613]

Love for Korver they need him bad

What would the Hawks want Love for when they already have Milsap?

 

[emkee]

Love possibly ... Kyrie never

It's up to LeBron, no-one safe.

Would expect Kyrie to stay but the organisation and their unofficial CEO are panicking thanks to the Dubs and Spurs.

 

[Montanas]

Cavs need a great shooter that's all I'm saying

 

[tipyerbartender1]

You guys are overanalyzing it. It doesn't matter who coaches the Cavs. Lue is a puppet. Blatt was a puppet too, but he had the creepy uncle feel.

 

[Montanas]

Love or mill sap that's a tough one lol

 

[emkee]

You guys are overanalyzing it. It doesn't matter who coaches the Cavs. Lue is a puppet. Blatt was a puppet too, but he had the creepy uncle feel.

Yep, Lue is a puppet. Expect to see LBJ's hand up Lue's ass.

Cavs are a murder scene.

 

[cogenman]

lol i was just joking around :rofl:


i've been looking forward to this game for over a month.... its kind of sad we had to wait this long into the season for the best two teams in the league to play..... should be awesome

:shake:

 

[tipyerbartender1]

Yep, Lue is a puppet. Expect to see LBJ's hand up Lue's ass.

Cavs are a murder scene.

I don't think it will be that detectable. They'll be a happier team, might have a .550 month, catch fire after that. They won't be good enough at the end is my sad prediction.

 

[emkee]

Trade deadline will be interesting.

 

[cogenman]

I could definitely see Love going. They got TT to step right in. Kyrie though I think they want to keep. But like em said, it depends on the coach and GM of the team: Lebron.

 

[tipyerbartender1]

Lebron the coach, and Lebron the GM, have sucked. Hopefully his "basketball IQ" kicks in. Did he invent that? Dude, we get it, you can pass.

 

[KJ]

Trading Love will be an admission of guilt from LBJ, does he have it in him?

 

[emkee]

LeCramps would be getting heat from Nike too.

Dude signed a lifetime deal just before Christmas and there's a high probability he won't win another 'ship.

 

[nbafan88]

like you said, as long as kawhi and curry are in the league its tough to see lebron winning another ring

 

[tipyerbartender1]

LeCramps would be getting heat from Nike too.

Dude signed a lifetime deal just before Christmas and there's a high probability he won't win another 'ship.

eh, I think that's kind of year-to-year. Would you have predicted a 2016 Golden State monster in 2014?

 

[tipyerbartender1]

I quoted the wrong post. As if my drunlen posts aren't already confusing.

 

[hugh613]

Talk about a clankfest at Verizon.

 

[nbafan88]

Other than Lebron who on the cavs do you actually think is a championship contender... caliber player? Kyrie is close in my book.

 

[nbafan88]

Miami +7.5 and ML +275

 

[nbafan88]

Favors is back tonight for Utah

 

[tipyerbartender1]

Other than Lebron who on the cavs do you actually think is a championship contender... caliber player? Kyrie is close in my book.

It's pretty hard to tell, don't you agree? I'm not super duper worried about the Spurs, but if all three teams are healthy, Cavs won't beat any of them.