Iverson or Hamilton?

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w/o a doubt, Rip is the better starter for this team. AI was just starting because of reputation.
 
I do think that Iverson is a better player and I took him here, but in the Pistons team, he is better as a second unit player, no doubt about that.
 
Wouldn't be suprised if Allens back injury turns out to be "more serious" than thought. He was hurt before the decision but trust me the conspiracy theories are already running rampant around here.
 
AI sucks. He's gonna make $5 mil at most next year.


Most of the older vets are gonna be lucky to get the MLE next year(basically its in that range).

Iverson has to pick wisely too. He simply has to be on a team that fits him. He can't blend. I give the guy all the credit too because he has tried here in Detroit but this is a system team and that along with AI doesn't mesh well.
 
Pistons guard Allen Iverson out for rest of the season
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The Pistons announced today that guard Allen Iverson will miss the remainder of the season.




“After talking with Allen and our medical staff, we feel that resting Allen for the remainder of the season is the best course of action at this time,” Pistons president Joe Dumars said in a released statement. “While he has played in our last three games, he is still feeling some discomfort and getting him physically ready to compete at the level he is accustomed to playing this late in the season does not seem possible at this point.”

Iverson missed 16 games from Feb. 27 to March 28 with a sore back. He returned on March 29 against Philadelphia as a reserve. In his three games off the bench, he's averaged 7.7 points, 1.3 rebounds and 2.7 assists in 18.7 minutes.

Iverson has been vocal about disliking his new role after the last two games, both losses at Cleveland and New Jersey.

Detroit (36-39) began Friday as the seventh-seeded team in the Eastern Conference. They lead Chicago by a half game and Charlotte by two with less than two weeks left in the regular season.

According to ESPN, the Pistons will re-evaluate Iverson's status if the team makes the playoffs.

The Pistons acquired Iverson from Denver for Chauncey Billups, Cheikh Samb and Antonio McDyess on Nov. 3. McDyess was waived by the Nuggets and rejoined the Pistons. In 54 games in Detroit, Iverson averages 17.4 points and 4.9 assists in 36.5 minutes.

Iverson will be a free agent at season's end.
 
Never saw this coming....

The game then comments after Wednesday sealed this fate.

He won't be back for playoffs, count on that.

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AP File PhotoAllen Iverson wasn't able to give the Pistons the scoring punch they expected after acquiring him from Denver for Chauncey Billups.
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AUBURN HILLS -- The big splash that acquiring Allen Iverson was supposed to make for the Detroit Pistons has turned into one of the most colossal thuds of the Joe Dumars regime.
The Pistons made official on Friday what many have been wanting them to do for some time now: get rid of Iverson.
The official word is he's being shut down for the rest of the season and the playoffs because it's the "best course of action at this time."
Truth is, it's the only course of action if the Pistons want to salvage what's still left of their season.
Iverson never fit in, plain and simple.
He tried to play "Pistons basketball" early on, making a point of trying to get the ball to his teammates as often as possible, even if that meant passing up shots that, as he often said, he could "make with my eyes closed."
But there was just one problem: they didn't want that.
They wanted him to be the prolific scoring threat that for years had defensive-minded coaches waking up with a cold sweat in the middle of the night, fearful that they would be the next to be victimized by one of the game's most lethal scorers.
We never saw that Iverson.
We saw an Iverson that, even when he got major minutes, didn't score a ton of points or rack up a bunch of assists. We saw an Iverson whose defense was just dreadful. We saw an Iverson that skipped out on a Thanksgiving day practice that, for the most part, was held to get him up to speed.
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He told me the rumors about there being a connection between his demotion and the length of time he missed due to a sore back injury, was "hilarious."
"I've been a warrior my whole career and I pride myself on being that way," Iverson said. "But it is what it is."
Whether you believe him or not is irrelevant.
The reality is that while his back still was bothering him, you look around the Pistons' locker room -- and just about every playoff contender's locker room -- and you'll see guys playing through pain and discomfort.
Why? Because that's what you do when your goals are bigger and greater than your own personal agenda.
Iverson never fit in, plain and simple.
So where does that leave Detroit?
In the short term, it hurts them because he was an X-factor who could have potentially given Detroit a legitimate shot of knocking off any of the top three seeds -- one of which Detroit will likely open up against in the playoffs.
Without him, their best shot of getting past the first round will be if they face Orlando.
Long term, this will work out well for the Pistons.
Because they'll be one of the last teams to qualify for the playoffs, their first-round pick in June will be somewhere in the middle of the first round as opposed to most seasons when it's in the 20s. And there's the salary cap relief they'll get with Iverson's contract, as well as Rasheed Wallace's contract, both coming off the books this summer.
Detroit will look to land an impact player, probably a power forward, on the free-agent market. The Utah Jazz will have a hard time keeping both Carlos Boozer (assuming he opts out this summer, which he said earlier this season was his intention) and restricted free agent Paul Millsap. Adding either one would be a significant upgrade for the Pistons.
New Orleans still will be looking to cut costs this summer, so they may look to move Tyson Chandler again. He too would be an upgrade for Detroit.
But until a deal of that magnitude comes down the pipeline, the Pistons will have to live with the fact they gave away one of the team's great leaders (Chauncey Billups) for a once-dynamic player (Iverson) who never came remotely close to being the difference-maker they wanted.
Sure, his back injury hurt his chances of living up to his billing. But more than that, Iverson did not fit in, plain and simple.
 
Iverson is a disaster at this point in his career. I can't imagine any contender will be looking to sign him this summer.
 
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