glad we see utah the same way at least fondy, haha. we're on different wavelengths with the big10, as i don't see how they can possibly be overrated when every person on the face of the earth thinks the conference sucks and can't wait to fade them. i'm not saying they are the best conference, or even in the top 3, but i think the perception is way off due to ohio state losing their ooc big game handedly and michigan sucking. think they will be some feisty dogs, as they had a much higher level of competition in conference from top to bottom than in the previous few years. the big bad sec isn't nearly as good as it was the last few years, and the big12 is full of good offenses and subpar defenses. imo, penn state isn't 10 points worse than anyone. what is their huge weakness that usc can exploit? they are a much better team than last year's illinois team that was dogged by usc by the same amount. i agree with your first thought that it is too low scoring to lay 10 points in. and i think osu loses, but a close one by 4-7 pts, as they have a motivation and the coaching edge. i don't believe in texas' defense like everyone seems to. i think your boys will be a good bet depending on the line...last several years they have played better teams very tough. iowa matches up pretty well in a low scoring game imo...very similar teams. msu i'm not so sure about, i'll prob fade them depending on the number but both teams should be able to run and score pts. minny i will likely fade the shit out of. just how i see em...they will probably have a bad record su, but i doubt they will ats