FAU AT MTSU ( -3 ) ---Tuesday Night Game Discussion
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nawlins51
I bet Basketball
Well I got -9 for the spread for the game. Then I look at some more numbers and got MTSU winning by 7. Plus I read MTSU is excited about being on national TV and trying to blackout the stadium. There is your motivation angle. Plus what I looked at mostly points to MTSU. Got em at -2.5 and figured it was a deal.I know the public will be on MTSU but it will not have heavy action meaning to me it doesn't pay to fade the squares. So I will roll with them on this game.As for as breaking down about certain players I will leave it up to yall.
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
Yeah ... but not sure the public knows either of these teams too well but have certainly heard more about FAU and the old man with the pipe than they have of the blue raiders. Also , hasn't FAU been on some tv games with their tough schedule already ? Not so clear cut where the public will be in my opinion.
i have no clue who wins this game lol.
how many points do these teams combine for ?
i have no clue who wins this game lol.
how many points do these teams combine for ?
nawlins51
I bet Basketball
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
if that total opens around 47 i'll definitely be on the over...should be a close game played in the 30s barring rain
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ontime23
Guest
They both have had trouble scoring but don't know if it's due to the schedule or what.
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
i'm not so sure about that kyle...sportsbook shows a 78/22 split at this point, and i think that people will remember that win vs maryland, who has become somewhat of a darling themselves....
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
ontime, i think a lot of it has had to do with the level of competition...they match up pretty well to each other and although their games usually aren't that high scoring, i think this game will be pretty competitive and both offenses are in pretty good shape coming in as it relates to what they want to do in this game..
dylanphan
Pretty much a regular
I agree here....although I haven't seen a total listed.
MTSU has been hampered by a ton of injuries early on, but I think they are the better team, especially with HFA. However, FAU certainly has the ability to throw the ball around a lot and has the better QB.
I played MTSU -2.5 at the open and will play back on FAU if the line hits 4 (I think it will).
Any total listed below 47, I'll play the over, but I do think the total will come out around 47.5-49.:cheers:
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
I think the line should be a little closer to 6 myself.
Sportsinsights...while I am not positive it is 100% correct as it is only reporting Olympic's Total shows the total sitting at 34.5 down from a 40.5 open. Might be one of the lowest totals I remeber for a week night college game in a long while if that is correct. Again, I am just simply posting what I see on their page right now. I have seen some movement from 3 to 2.5 in the last little bit as well. Best of luck to all.
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
some notes from on mtsu
troy: if this is a couple of weeks into the season i think they win this game...very very close game where they won t.o.p. and the turnover battle. were too banged up in the weeks leading up to the game to pull it out imo. but this game was extremely important to them and not the best spot for troy as they dominated the game the year before to close the season, something very fresh in the team's heads. close in net yardage, very close game throughout, but they couldn't establish the rush. 0-4 on fourth down. troy rushed for 4.6 ypc on the road in a game they wanted badly...not a good sign and probably the difference in the game. they didn't look like very good tacklers a lot of the game either. despite winning the turnover battle, they turned the ball over twice that led to two scores in the first half, that dug the hole they got in.
maryland: pulled out all the stops to get this win including some trick plays, fake punts, and 3 out of 4 fourth down conversions. but they deserved to win, outgaining maryland by 50 yards and out fd them by 6. they again managed to control time of possession (nearly doubling it at 40/20) with a significant disadvantage in the ground game (5.8 vs 2.9 ypc), but they had 16 more attempts because of the efficient play of craddock (completing 70% of his passes) and the ability to convert 3rd and 4th downs. the int by turner in the first half that allowed mtsu to go up 17-7 was big, as he returned it to the 5 and mtsu went up by 10 and it stayed that way for most of the game. a couple of big plays in the second half padded the net yardage and passing yardage a little. md was inside the fau 35 three times in the 4q down 10 and couldn't score, one on a failed fourth down conversion, and two were ints near or in the endzone. only bcs win over a team not named vandy for mtsu in their history.
kentucky: rush defense showed up, but rush offense was again absent (1.3 ypc). they lost the rushing battle, the t.o.p. battle, the turnover battle, got out fd by 9, and some big passing plays made the net yardage very close. even though they came up 1 yard short of the goaline on a hail mary that was caught at the end of the game they didn't deserve to win. kentucky's better qb got hurt and wasn't available. they missed 3 fgs, one being blocked. mtsu did hold the lead for about 16 minutes of the game and the defense played pretty good, but kentucky's offense isn't much. easily covered the big 20 pt number here off one of the biggest upsets they've had in school history, so something to keep in mind..that was quite impressive to me.
ark st: out fd 22-15, only 5 for 13 and 1 for 2 on fourth down (they've went for it on fourth down at least once every game) while allowing 8 for 15, outgained by 125 yards, including a slaughter in the ground game at 1.8 versus 4.4 ypc., lost turnover battle, lost t.o.p. they were in a terrible spot here after competitive games vs bcs teams they had to play an ark st team they had beaten five straight times. craddock had another pretty good game despite his int.
potential advantages this game:
*special teams - special teams makes plays to cover up a lot of their weaknesses...always an integral part of what they do and a solid unit. they will undoubtedly have the special teams advantage here as fau's is questionable...something to think about in a close game, especially with this gutsy coaching staff
*craddock will be able to exploit this fau defense as he makes good decisions for the most part and has the arm to make throws that will beat the fau's weak secondary...i expect a big game out of him, and they'll certainly need it with their lack of ground game
*turnover margin - can't predict this, but they were 12th in the nation in the turnover battle last year, and the offense plays pretty smart. they won the battle versus maryland and troy, which is pretty impressive
*homecrowd - always a tough place to play, and nationally televised game will certainly get this team's attention. they've been resilient through injuries and i think they'll definitely be able to score if the weather is ok
troy: if this is a couple of weeks into the season i think they win this game...very very close game where they won t.o.p. and the turnover battle. were too banged up in the weeks leading up to the game to pull it out imo. but this game was extremely important to them and not the best spot for troy as they dominated the game the year before to close the season, something very fresh in the team's heads. close in net yardage, very close game throughout, but they couldn't establish the rush. 0-4 on fourth down. troy rushed for 4.6 ypc on the road in a game they wanted badly...not a good sign and probably the difference in the game. they didn't look like very good tacklers a lot of the game either. despite winning the turnover battle, they turned the ball over twice that led to two scores in the first half, that dug the hole they got in.
maryland: pulled out all the stops to get this win including some trick plays, fake punts, and 3 out of 4 fourth down conversions. but they deserved to win, outgaining maryland by 50 yards and out fd them by 6. they again managed to control time of possession (nearly doubling it at 40/20) with a significant disadvantage in the ground game (5.8 vs 2.9 ypc), but they had 16 more attempts because of the efficient play of craddock (completing 70% of his passes) and the ability to convert 3rd and 4th downs. the int by turner in the first half that allowed mtsu to go up 17-7 was big, as he returned it to the 5 and mtsu went up by 10 and it stayed that way for most of the game. a couple of big plays in the second half padded the net yardage and passing yardage a little. md was inside the fau 35 three times in the 4q down 10 and couldn't score, one on a failed fourth down conversion, and two were ints near or in the endzone. only bcs win over a team not named vandy for mtsu in their history.
kentucky: rush defense showed up, but rush offense was again absent (1.3 ypc). they lost the rushing battle, the t.o.p. battle, the turnover battle, got out fd by 9, and some big passing plays made the net yardage very close. even though they came up 1 yard short of the goaline on a hail mary that was caught at the end of the game they didn't deserve to win. kentucky's better qb got hurt and wasn't available. they missed 3 fgs, one being blocked. mtsu did hold the lead for about 16 minutes of the game and the defense played pretty good, but kentucky's offense isn't much. easily covered the big 20 pt number here off one of the biggest upsets they've had in school history, so something to keep in mind..that was quite impressive to me.
ark st: out fd 22-15, only 5 for 13 and 1 for 2 on fourth down (they've went for it on fourth down at least once every game) while allowing 8 for 15, outgained by 125 yards, including a slaughter in the ground game at 1.8 versus 4.4 ypc., lost turnover battle, lost t.o.p. they were in a terrible spot here after competitive games vs bcs teams they had to play an ark st team they had beaten five straight times. craddock had another pretty good game despite his int.
potential advantages this game:
*special teams - special teams makes plays to cover up a lot of their weaknesses...always an integral part of what they do and a solid unit. they will undoubtedly have the special teams advantage here as fau's is questionable...something to think about in a close game, especially with this gutsy coaching staff
*craddock will be able to exploit this fau defense as he makes good decisions for the most part and has the arm to make throws that will beat the fau's weak secondary...i expect a big game out of him, and they'll certainly need it with their lack of ground game
*turnover margin - can't predict this, but they were 12th in the nation in the turnover battle last year, and the offense plays pretty smart. they won the battle versus maryland and troy, which is pretty impressive
*homecrowd - always a tough place to play, and nationally televised game will certainly get this team's attention. they've been resilient through injuries and i think they'll definitely be able to score if the weather is ok
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
fau -
texas: well they talked a lot of shit before the game at least lol. that's about all they did. got out first downed 31-13, outgained by over 200 yards--including the secondary to allow texas qbs to go 28 for 34 for 7.7 yppp and 4 tds. crushed in the ground game, allowing 5.0 and gaining 1.6 ypc. smith had a halfway decent day throwing the football, but that's about it on a positive note for fau. dominated.
uab: first off, this uab team is very bad imo. they played an almost flawless game offensively, which makes me think that will translate into this game as it's prob the most comparable defense, although mtsu should be better defensively. converted 70% 3rd downs, had 358 yards passing and 3 tds including 10.2 yppp and completing 63% of their passes, and averaging 7.8 ypc on the ground for 554 total yards. they had an almost equally flawed defensive performance, allowing 482 yards of total offense, 4.5 ypc, 27 fds, and 326 yards through the air...which makes me think mtsu can score because craddock is better than webb imo and has similar weapons.
mich st: almost want to just throw this game out because of the conditions. msu couldn't exploit the fau defense in the way they wanted because of the heavy rain, which made fau look a lot better defensively. offense had a bad game, but that was also a lot due to the rain, so i'm not even gonna bother with the horrible stats. only thing significant is that they got beat up on the ground (3.0 vs 4.6), and a lot of teams are going to get beat up on the ground game against msu....msu ran the ball 58 times and controlled the clock 37/23. turnovers were even.
minn: this was a bigtime revenge spot for minny when they lost turning the ball over 7 times to this squad last year, and it's kind of similar to the ark st game vs mtsu...they just got their asses kicked. smith threw 4 picks. they got outgained by 165 yards. allowed 5 ypc and 9.8 yppp, out fd by 6, couldn't get anything going in the passing game completing only around 50% of their passes for 175 yards. one highlight is that they did rush for 4.0 ypc, and i didn't see the game. very uncharacteristic game for smith, who in his previous 28 starts had 18 picks and never a game with more than 2. also fumbled. he had several dropped passes as well that would have been big plays...
advantages i expect in this game:
*trenches on both sides of the ball. they should win the running game and stop an anemic mtsu ground game
*bouncback spot after their worst game of the season...they'll be happy to play a team that doesn't completely overmatch them. smith won't play nearly as bad after the worst performance of his career...they'll be completely focused here. they'll be able to score with their athletes against a defense with all kinds of problems tackling. a lot of short passes have turned into big gains against mtsu
*line value as i think that before the maryland upset fau is favored by more than a fg as they were the favorites to repeat in this conference. mtsu would have been a decent conf dog though here with the points because of their homefield and ability to match up on the offensive side of the ball
texas: well they talked a lot of shit before the game at least lol. that's about all they did. got out first downed 31-13, outgained by over 200 yards--including the secondary to allow texas qbs to go 28 for 34 for 7.7 yppp and 4 tds. crushed in the ground game, allowing 5.0 and gaining 1.6 ypc. smith had a halfway decent day throwing the football, but that's about it on a positive note for fau. dominated.
uab: first off, this uab team is very bad imo. they played an almost flawless game offensively, which makes me think that will translate into this game as it's prob the most comparable defense, although mtsu should be better defensively. converted 70% 3rd downs, had 358 yards passing and 3 tds including 10.2 yppp and completing 63% of their passes, and averaging 7.8 ypc on the ground for 554 total yards. they had an almost equally flawed defensive performance, allowing 482 yards of total offense, 4.5 ypc, 27 fds, and 326 yards through the air...which makes me think mtsu can score because craddock is better than webb imo and has similar weapons.
mich st: almost want to just throw this game out because of the conditions. msu couldn't exploit the fau defense in the way they wanted because of the heavy rain, which made fau look a lot better defensively. offense had a bad game, but that was also a lot due to the rain, so i'm not even gonna bother with the horrible stats. only thing significant is that they got beat up on the ground (3.0 vs 4.6), and a lot of teams are going to get beat up on the ground game against msu....msu ran the ball 58 times and controlled the clock 37/23. turnovers were even.
minn: this was a bigtime revenge spot for minny when they lost turning the ball over 7 times to this squad last year, and it's kind of similar to the ark st game vs mtsu...they just got their asses kicked. smith threw 4 picks. they got outgained by 165 yards. allowed 5 ypc and 9.8 yppp, out fd by 6, couldn't get anything going in the passing game completing only around 50% of their passes for 175 yards. one highlight is that they did rush for 4.0 ypc, and i didn't see the game. very uncharacteristic game for smith, who in his previous 28 starts had 18 picks and never a game with more than 2. also fumbled. he had several dropped passes as well that would have been big plays...
advantages i expect in this game:
*trenches on both sides of the ball. they should win the running game and stop an anemic mtsu ground game
*bouncback spot after their worst game of the season...they'll be happy to play a team that doesn't completely overmatch them. smith won't play nearly as bad after the worst performance of his career...they'll be completely focused here. they'll be able to score with their athletes against a defense with all kinds of problems tackling. a lot of short passes have turned into big gains against mtsu
*line value as i think that before the maryland upset fau is favored by more than a fg as they were the favorites to repeat in this conference. mtsu would have been a decent conf dog though here with the points because of their homefield and ability to match up on the offensive side of the ball
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
Total is opening in Vegas at 47
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
^that is good news, hoops
wizardofodd
Resident Newlywed
broadway.....nice breakdown and write up, you made up my mind for me with that. took them for a unit for some tuesday night action. I got it at -2.5, but I expect this to get to -3.5 by gametime. If it hits 4, I will prob take FAU also and hope for a 3 point win. I agree with all the notes you made.
BOL tonight.
BOL tonight.
FLAT has been a huge disappointment imo. they just cannot get the offense going at all. in their defense, they have played a hell of a schedule thus far. tonight will be their third game in a row on the road but i expect them to perform better beacuse MTSU does give up yards on defense. interesting matchup because if FLAT can right the ship, they still can be in contention for the sbc title. a little motivation after a rough start.
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
Bookmaker out....
I tried to submit o47.5 but they made me take o48.5
I tried to submit o47.5 but they made me take o48.5
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
got it at 48...greek
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
yup it just moved to 48.5 on thegreek...campers
broadwayjoe
May 5Dimes MLB 2nd place
on the move quickly...49 at thegreek 'an_horse'
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
Don't forget the level of competition these 2 teams have played up to this point.
These guys are going to pull out all the tricks on national tv tonight.
Was looking at MTSU but the closer I look what have they done ? Get outplayed by Maryland statistically and win because they controlled TOP? FAU they played @ Texas , @ Michigan State in pouring rain and muddy field , and @ Minnesota who they beat last year . Just think FAU is the better team on paper and it seems obvious that after FAU burned manyfolks at Minny they could have easily opened this game at -3 but think it probably should be a PKem....Total isnt there soem Tuesday UNDER trend ???
Strong Lean FAU +3 or ML..:cheers:
Strong Lean FAU +3 or ML..:cheers:
nawlins51
I bet Basketball
I disagree Nut.MTSU just had a game against a pretty hot Kentucky team.Yeah FAU stood toe to toe with Michigan State but Michigan State would take an ass whopping from Kentucky.I may be wrong but no way FAU wins or covers.Just don't see it buddy.
Another thing is I see people saying I see everyone on MTSU.I am fading them. This is not a LSU/Auburn game. The squares have no idea who these teams are. This game will not have a lot of action compared to the big names.It was the same thing when 70% was on Minny against FAU.The line was -6 Minny. I rode with Minny even though the percentages were one sided because there is not a lot of action on the game.Same goes with this one.You have to know when to fade the public and just by looking at percents without looking at the bets is a no-no.I learned this the hard way.This game will not even be noticed tonight.All eyes will be in MLB.This game won't have a lot of action.Just be careful fellas.These are my opinions and I may be wrong but just be careful with the fading the public angle in small games. It doesn't matter.
Now for the total.Damn we are good. We all capped this between 47-51 . They got it right in the middle.I am passing on this one. This total is dead on according to my numbers and some of yall.Maybe we can find an edge with a half play on this total.
GL Fellas.
BigRaktor
Mr. Incredible?
Glad to see I'm on the same side as you tonight SN. Very strong trend to the under...leaning FAU myself.
RambleOn
The Law of Winning
We agree for once. GL tonight, I'm on the ML right now. :shake:
Zeke
Big Dick and Average Size Boat
FWIW on the total (from Jim Fiest.com)....
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in FLA ATLANTIC games 29.4% of the time since 1992. (10-24)</TD><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in FLA ATLANTIC games 28% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (7-18)
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in MIDDLE TENN ST games 53.1% of the time since 1992. (17-15)</TD><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in MIDDLE TENN ST games 54.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (13-11)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in FLA ATLANTIC games 29.4% of the time since 1992. (10-24)</TD><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in FLA ATLANTIC games 28% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (7-18)
<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in MIDDLE TENN ST games 53.1% of the time since 1992. (17-15)</TD><TR><TD class="matchupCells Text">The betting public is correct when moving the total in MIDDLE TENN ST games 54.2% of the time over the past 3 seasons. (13-11)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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ou_sooners_1
Pretty much a regular
I have FAU as a 7 point fav. Plus, I feel even better knowing that the underdogs have been consistently covering on weekdays.
I just disagree with alot of your points and by no means I am an expert here.
First I dont believe that Kentucky would whip or even definetly beat Michigan State simply because while Kentucky has a very good defense there offense sucks . Look at how Kentucky has won its games vs Louisville and even Western Kentucky . WKU is pretty terrible and thanks to MTSU hanging with Kentucky the line was the same the following week vs WKU. Kentucky had only 398 yards total offense , only led 17-3 at half which included a 100yd kick return and 45yd FG.
Which MTSU having a 62 YD TD pass early was a fluke .
Look at who FAU has played @ Texas , @ Michigan State and @ Minnesota compared to hosting Troy , Maryland pre-Cal game , @ Kentucky , @ Ark State . They have not been favored in a game yet and were 6 pt home dogs to Troy and lost by 2 TDs . Ark State whipped them . All the have is Maryland and Kentucky and things just went there way IMO . FAU hung with Mich State despite the fact there offense is built on the pass had to play in weather conditions making it impossible to pass while State has a good RB in Ringer . FAU got somked @ Minnesota but as I said before that game no way I see FAU beating Minny consecutive years . Oh and they got handled at Texas but these are some real good opponents.
I just cant past the fact MTSU wa +6 at home to Troy and was beaten easily . I look at Troy and see Minnesota as a comparable strength level team . Maybe Troy would be -1 pt favs on neutral field at this point . Which I would guess troy is about 6 pts better then FAU ...so if Troys lays 6 comfortable at MTSU then gotta feel a PK is the more accurate number .....
As far as the squares , publics , fades arguement . I could also say while they dont know these teams who is Joe Pub gonna pick if he wants action on this game ? Th ehome team laying 3 or less or the road team ? My reasoning for switching off MTSU was simply w/o researching thought MTSU had accomplished more this year then they did. Also I think the was much more flow on FAU then Minny few weeks backs. To me betting %s are largely irrelevant I rather get into the mindset of the avg bettor . Who IMO thought at that point felt Minnesota sucked .
I think you have to faded irrational thinking and misperception . Thats how can I say in Week 4 the Chiefs are gonna beat Denver . Reality and perception were very skewed in that game has nothing to do with being contrarian.
If I bet FAU here its because I believe the more accurate line is PK. Not because I fading the public .....
As for the total again why I like the under is first thing that popped into my head from way back when in the Covers days was Tuesday Night Unders . Alot of you gusy remember those threads . The next thing was MTSU with the s,ow , grind out offense and decent defense playing an FAU team who finally plays a medicore at best offense w/o big play capability but also has not done anything on the road on offense yet to be excited about . Talent is there but production hasnt been .
So easily could see a 24-21 game ..Right now just leaning UNDER as this gets BET Up .....
GL Nawlins:shake::cheers:
GL BigRaktor ....:cheers:
GL Ramble . Just so you know I usually only post when I DISAGREE with whats floating around the forum . If I agree with what is said by most I tend to just keep it to myself . So I doubt we disagree as much as you may think ....nice win by Ole Miss ....overthought that biotch ...had Miss 1st H and game but after pissing away chances in the 1st H thought FLA was gonna seize control in the 2nd and washed out of my bet . DUMB. Actually makes Ole Miss win more credible though IMO as they could have buckled at half and didnt ....:cheers::shake:
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
I don't think "the public" were the ones pounding this line up 3 points in 5 minutes at 11:30am on a Tuesday morning.
nawlins51
I bet Basketball
Sportsnut this is why I like it when we disagree. I love talking football with you even when we don't see eye to eye. So I disagree with your points but do like your under lean.It will be a no play for me unless they score a lot in the 1st half and the books give me a sweet line in the 2nd half to take the under. And to the public thinking angle/theory I stated it wasn't to you. I have just learned over time what to look for and was trying to throw some pointers. We all have our ideas and opinions and different ways to cap a game . I just want all of us to beat the books.I hate seeing all the guys on here have a bad day.
Sportsnut good talking with you bro. Like I said I could argue with you all day and enjoy every minute of your time discussing sports.Glad i found this forum.
nawlins51
I bet Basketball
I would agree with that statement but don't agree with the over.
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
Also, I think the term "public" is becoming significantly overused any more.
It seems like that is the "go to" term when picking the right side of the number.
All just a bunch of bullshit, IMO.
Everyone is "the public," its just some interpret information, statistics, and subjective analysis better than others.
I'm off my soapbox.
It seems like that is the "go to" term when picking the right side of the number.
All just a bunch of bullshit, IMO.
Everyone is "the public," its just some interpret information, statistics, and subjective analysis better than others.
I'm off my soapbox.
:shake::shake:
Technically they were. I mean Sharp money is technically part of the betting public . They bet at the same books . At least thats how I consider it . I know what you mean and kinda being wise about it . Think the term is just misused by us . If one is to worry who is betting what then I think proper idenfication should be used rather then guessing either way . If we cant verify it as sharp/pro action then why it label it such ? Only leads to overthinking is what I am getting at . Plus its not like there are only 5 bettors in the world labeled as sharp . Your talking about hundreds maybe more people whose action is watched and treated differently . We make SHARP sound like some secret society ...:shake:
Technically they were. I mean Sharp money is technically part of the betting public . They bet at the same books . At least thats how I consider it . I know what you mean and kinda being wise about it . Think the term is just misused by us . If one is to worry who is betting what then I think proper idenfication should be used rather then guessing either way . If we cant verify it as sharp/pro action then why it label it such ? Only leads to overthinking is what I am getting at . Plus its not like there are only 5 bettors in the world labeled as sharp . Your talking about hundreds maybe more people whose action is watched and treated differently . We make SHARP sound like some secret society ...:shake:
hoopsstar22
Captain of Vanzack's yacht
:shake:
No worries. If everyone agreed on every play, I believe sports wagering would be non-existent. You have to trust your numbers and info, as I have to trust mine.
But my over position, will be much different than your under position, if you take one, and there will be plenty of room in between for 2 winners.
GL
Same here bro. So many games impossible to agree on everything or even most of them . That what makes it fun and always brings me back to discuss the different angles . I learn something new everyday....If I had all the answers well then this wouldnt be a challenge . My opinion is simply just my opinion .
GL today :shake:
