ESPN Handicapper Results--Week 8

[TahoeLegend]

Poor showing for the ESPN handicappers. None of them above .500 for the week. Stanford Steve, Greg McElroy, and SVP are slightly in the black for the season.

The four ML pickers are the stars of the season by far. All four are in the black (I'm talking about money when I say black or red), three of them by a wide margin

A typical week for the D-League pickers. Tyler Fulghum is leading the pack and is the only one in the black for the season. All of them lost their best bet of the week.

Stanford Steve— Week 8 (3-4) Season (22-21) Best Bet (3-2) 2020 Season (32-27)
Notre Dame -7 Win
UCLA -2 Lose
Ole Miss -9 Win
Army +3 Lose
Air Force -3 (120) Lose
Texas A&M -19.5 Win
TCU -4.5 Lose

Greg McElroy— Week 8 (1-2) Season (13-11)
App State +5 Win
Wisc/Purdue u 40 Lose
UCLA -2 Lose

The Bear— Week 8 (2-4) Season (15-23) 2020 Season (25-21)
USC +7 Lose
Iowa State - Lose
Miami +3 Win
Army +3 Lose
Air Force -3x Lose
Oregon State +3 Win
Bank Picks— Week 8 (2-1) (12-12)
Iowa St Lose
Ore St Win
Wake Forest Win

Phil Steele-- Week 8 (2-4) Season (29-29) 2020 Season (27-40)
Louisiana Tech +6x Lose
Wyoming -20 Lose
Texas State +10x Lose
Wisconsin -3 Win
Morehead State +7x Win
Colorado St -3 Lose

Scott Van Pelt— Week 8 (3-3) Season (27-25) 2020 Season (42-39)
Army +3 Lose
Washington State+4 Win
Miami FL+3.5 Win
Navy+28.5 Win
Georgia Tech+6.5 Lose
Iowa State-7 Lose

Colin Cowherd Blazing Five— Week 7 (2-3) Season (16-25) 2020 Season (35-37)
Cinc (+6.5) Win
Car (-2.5) Lose
Phil (+3) Lose
TB (-12.5) Win
SF (-4) Lose

My Picks— Week 8 (5-4) Season (31-19) 2020 Season (48-31)
LSU +11x Lose
N C State -3 Lose
SMU -13x Win
Pitt -3 Win
Cncinnati 1st Q -7 Lose
Ohio St half -9x Win
N Dame -7 Win
N Dame ML Win
Bama 1st Q Lose

Gameday Super Dog Pick, Season Record
Desmond—LSU Lose 6-2
Lee—Ohio +5x Lose 4-3-1
Reece—La Tech Lose 5-3
Kirk—Okla St Win 5-3
David—Purdue Lose 3-5


ML DOG PICKERS:
Pamela Maldonado— Week 8 (2-1) Season (12-11)
Cincinnati Win
Philadelphia Lose
Tennessee Win

Bill Trocci— Week 8 (2-1) Season (11-13)
Oklahoma State Win
Purdue Lose
San Diego St Win

Bill Bender-- Week 8 (1-2) Season (9-15)
Oklahoma State Win
Army Lose
Clemson Lose

Zac Al-Khateeb—Week 8 (2-1) Season (12-12)
Oklahoma St Win
Oregon Win
Clemson Lose

ESPN D-League Pickers:

Tyler Fulghum—Season 12-8
Oklahoma -38.5 Lose
Pitt -3 Win
Alabama first half -14 Lose

Joe Fortenbaugh—Season 15-16
SMU -13.5 Win
Ohio +5.5 Lose
UCLA -2 Lose
Clemson +3.5 Lose

Bill Connelly—Season 20-19
UConn +15.5 Lose
CSU -3.5 Lose
LSU/Ole Miss u76 Win
Fresno State -3 Win
Notre Dame -7 Win

Doug Kezirian—Season 19-18
Cal -9 Win
Ohio State -20 Win
Toledo +2 Win
BC +5 Lose

David M. Hale—Season 11-12
Iowa State -7 Lose
Oregon +2 Win
Buffalo -11 Win

Joey and Jesse Virtual Locks
Joey Week 8 (2-0) Season (7-8) 2020 Season (14-12)
Ohio St Win
Wake Forest Win

Matt Week 8 (2-0) Season (8-7) No 2020 Season
Wisc/Purdue o Win
Mich/NW u Win

 

[twinkie13]

Cowherd is fade wave huh?

 

[cogenman]

Cowherd is fade wave huh?

It's been well over a year since he's been worth a shit. Good to see who he's on though for fading purposes.

 

[2daBank]

Cowherd is fade wave huh?

he def been ass last 2 seasons,, i couldnt believe he liked panthers, im no nfl genius or anything but that the kind of game you never join the masses on a avg at best carolina team in that spot thinking they free money just cause giants been blown out by a couple the better teams, that nfl 101. like i said after i saw his picks friday that shit screamed gmen or stay away. He damn sure needs to quit saying he a lifetime 57% nfl capper cause no chance a guy close to it makes that play!! of course he also says he more a dog player then litters his 5 with favs, that been going on for some time, at some point he needs to own he playing a lot of favs and bad ones at that!

 

[KJ]

he def been ass last 2 seasons,, i couldnt believe he liked panthers, im no nfl genius or anything but that the kind of game you never join the masses on a avg at best carolina team in that spot thinking they free money just cause giants been blown out by a couple the better teams, that nfl 101. like i said after i saw his picks friday that shit screamed gmen or stay away. He damn sure needs to quit saying he a lifetime 57% nfl capper cause no chance a guy close to it makes that play!! of course he also says he more a dog player then litters his 5 with favs, that been going on for some time, at some point he needs to own he playing a lot of favs and bad ones at that!

To be fair simply fading public plays has been very, very bad the last couple years

 

[KJ]

NFL Week 7 betting roundup: Bettor wins $250K on Lions; public continues to win big

The public "almost swept the whole board" on Sunday, according to Jeff Stoneback of BetMGM.

www.yahoo.com

 

[2daBank]

To be fair simply fading public plays has been very, very bad the last couple years

no doubt, that wasnt simply fading the public tho, that had all the other good ingredients, im never into being contrarian just for the sake of. that was value city on nyg and i heard things like "all their players out", not anyone more important than mccafery is to panthers, panthers been every bit as bad as nyg the last few and gmen were getting beat down by the best teams in the nfc, panthers were losing to other mediocre teams and yet ppl looked at that line like it was some huge gift cause it was a mismatch. pk was prob right in the 1st place and that thing got to +3.

 

[2daBank]

NFL Week 7 betting roundup: Bettor wins $250K on Lions; public continues to win big

The public "almost swept the whole board" on Sunday, according to Jeff Stoneback of BetMGM.

www.yahoo.com

not sure why that makes anything i said wrong bout panthers? i didnt knock his bucs pick which im sure was every bit as public, cause yea the best teams are kicking the crap out the bottom feeders.. panthers/giants wasnt that, for some reason panthers were being treated like they were one the really good teams and gmen one the worst, neither of those is true, especially the part about the panthers, ppl should have pumped the breaks on them instead of forgiving close losses to other average teams.

 

[KJ]

not sure why that makes anything i said wrong bout panthers? i didnt knock his bucs pick which im sure was every bit as public, cause yea the best teams are kicking the crap out the bottom feeders.. panthers/giants wasnt that, for some reason panthers were being treated like they were one the really good teams and gmen one the worst, neither of those is true, especially the part about the panthers, ppl should have pumped the breaks on them instead of forgiving close losses to other average teams.

Lol it wasn't just about you man or that game

 

[TahoeLegend]

To be fair simply fading public plays has been very, very bad the last couple years

It made no sense to me the first time I heard it and it still doesn't. it's another one of those sayings you hear around a sportsbook that guys say all the time that make no sense. Like, I handicapped that game perfectly, and I only lost because of a damn backdoor cover, or well, I lost my ass, but I beat the close. It's like the guy who thinks he has an advantage betting don't come in craps because he thinks he is "betting with the house."

It's one of the reasons Bear has been on a skid. Every week he says about at least one game, "well I really liked so and and so, but I can't bet them because the pubic is on them." This week he said he spent all week liking N Dame but switched at the last minute to USC because the public is on N Dame. Absurd reasoning

You can always find a game the public backs that loses, and it's true the public loses in the long run, but that doesn't mean fading the public is a betting strategy that will make money in the long run for an individual.

For one thing it is merely the public reacting, usually in an arbitrary manner, to a number that is arbitrary to begin with. You can't rely on something that capricious.

For another, the public goes on long streaks when they are right week after week. If the guys on Daily Wager are correct, on the 12 biggest public bets of the last four weeks, the public won on nine of them. They also said the biggest sharp bet of this past weekend was the Eagles v the Raiders. That's four of the last six weeks when the team with the biggest amount of sharp money on it lost.

A casino can ride it out, they collect juice when the public loses, but a guy with a limited bankroll can't rely on that. Kezirian and Fortenbaugh cite that all the time as a reason for their picks--and they are getting the best, up-to-the-minute information on what the public is doing a major network can provide them--and you see their records above

 

[KJ]

It made no sense to me the first time I heard it and it still doesn't. it's another one of those sayings you hear around a sportsbook that guys say all the time that make no sense. Like, I handicapped that game perfectly, and I only lost because of a damn backdoor cover, or well, I lost my ass, but I beat the close. It's like the guy who thinks he has an advantage betting don't come because he thinks he is "betting with the house."

It's one of the reasons Bear has been on a skid. Every week he says about at least one game, "well I really liked so and and so, but I can't bet them because the pubic is on them." This week he said he spent all week liking N Dame but switched at the last minute to USC because the public is on N Dame. Absurd reasoning

You can always find a game the public backs that loses, and it's true the public loses in the long run, but that doesn't mean fading the public is a betting strategy that will make money in the long run for an individual.

For one thing it is merely the public reacting, usually in an arbitrary manner, to a number that is arbitrary to begin with. You can't rely on something that capricious.

For another, the public goes on long streaks when they are right week after week. If the guys on Daily Wager are correct, on the 12 biggest public bets of the last four weeks, the public won on nine of them. They also said the biggest sharp bet of this past weekend was the Eagles v the Raiders. That's four of the last six weeks when the team with the biggest amount of sharp money on it lost.

A casino can ride it out, they collect juice when the public loses, but a guy with a limited bankroll can't rely on that. Kezirian and Fortenbaugh cite that all the time as a reason for their picks--and they are getting the best, up-to-the-minute information on what the public is doing a major network can provide them--and you see their records above

It's so pronounced in the NFL because they have such stigmas it seems about setting lines on good teams as high as they should against really bad teams. Let's face it, the public was jamming them up on overs for a couple years as the game changed but they seem to have caught up on the totals to a degree. Not sure I'd ever seen a regular season line at 20 before yesterday and you can sure as hell bet the Cardinals hadn't ever been close to that.

 

[2daBank]

i rather be on unpopular side but there no way I’m making a play just for sake of being contrarian (ala SVP). I prob pass on games from time to time cause I think they too “public”, not saying it smart just know I do it. Of course if I love a game/matchup I don’t care who on it! I do know I have this thing where I started noticing the 1st play that jumps out to me on a given card (especially the nfl) I know that is prob the worst bet of the week! Ive even begun to fade it some and has went pretty well! That part the reason I knew carolina panthers were a awful play last week, cause my 1st thought was same as many im sure. Lol.,

 

[s--k]

I felt Bear's reason for picking ISU on Gameday was strictly going against public perception of OkSt and little to nothing to do with on-field play, match-up or history. It's a total turn off when a guy who is supposed to be smart at picking games decides his position solely against what other people are expected to like.

 

[TahoeLegend]

It's a total turn off when a guy who is supposed to be smart at picking games decides his position solely against what other people are expected to like.

He's doing it more and more as the season goes on.

Result: he has the worst record in his weekly among ESPN handicappers and the has the worst record of any of the pickers on Daily Wager. The fact he is unable to comprehend it's one of the reasons he has the worst record makes him seem even more clueless

And the funniest thing about it is any bettor is better off if they go the opposite way from Bear because Bear is going the opposite way of the public.