Exactly. This could’ve been an all timer. Still alive thoughDammit! Needed Kansas to miss that 2 point conversion.
Absolutely. And likewise, who woulda thought Drake Maye would be at 160 or so mid 4q? Kinda crazy situationally on both sides. Instead of a potential shootout, turned into a grind it out, run the ball and let the clock roll in a close game throughout. Both teams playing timid. IMO playing not to WIN but not to LOSE.The fact that Bo Nix has only 108 yards passing with 8 minutes left against this North Carolina pass defense has to be the upset of the year.
Very true. Maye looked very good, but not a lot of yards. It was almost like Nix said, "Oh shit, we might actually lose this game. Time to try to play to win." And then, because he wanted it to happen, it happened. Also, it seems lately that whatever Mack Brown wants, the opposite happens.Absolutely. And likewise, who woulda thought Drake Maye would be at 160 or so mid 4q? Kinda crazy situationally on both sides. Instead of a potential shootout, turned into a grind it out, run the ball and let the clock roll in a close game throughout. Both teams playing timid. IMO playing not to WIN but not to LOSE.
Good stuffMy $0.02 on Texas / Washington. I try to be an unbiased Texas alum. Overly cynical probably.
- Penix's decision to stay and play is big and not a single UW player is sitting / out for the Alamo Bowl. They've all opted in.
- UW has won its last six including wins against Oregon State, on the road at Oregon and then a beatdown of Wazzu in the Apple Cup.
- 15 starters coming back next season and feels like a team that is geared toward beating a "marquee" program to launch the '23 season.
- Horns ended '22 in good fashion with Sarkisian telling his two elite RBs to win the games given how bad Ewers had become. And they did just that.
- But both Bijon and Roshon, the core of the team who won the games late in the season, are sitting this one out.
- That leaves Ewers to shoulder the offensive load, with no experience in the backfield and Worthy ready to get into the portal. Who knows where his head is. I guess Ewers could pull one out of his ass but he was a lost, very lost, QB down the stretch.
Washington getting a FG plus in this game just seems off. Yeah, it will be a home game for Texas. But so was the UW / Oregon game in Autzen.
I'll be surprised if Washington doesn't win this game.
Rather than edit my original post with the Washington play, I'll link it here because you basically listed the basis of my play Frank. I could not agree more.My $0.02 on Texas / Washington. I try to be an unbiased Texas alum. Overly cynical probably.
- Penix's decision to stay and play is big and not a single UW player is sitting / out for the Alamo Bowl. They've all opted in.
- UW has won its last six including wins against Oregon State, on the road at Oregon and then a beatdown of Wazzu in the Apple Cup.
- 15 starters coming back next season and feels like a team that is geared toward beating a "marquee" program to launch the '23 season.
- Horns ended '22 in good fashion with Sarkisian telling his two elite RBs to win the games given how bad Ewers had become. And they did just that.
- But both Bijon and Roshon, the core of the team who won the games late in the season, are sitting this one out.
- That leaves Ewers to shoulder the offensive load, with no experience in the backfield and Worthy ready to get into the portal. Who knows where his head is. I guess Ewers could pull one out of his ass but he was a lost, very lost, QB down the stretch.
Washington getting a FG plus in this game just seems off. Yeah, it will be a home game for Texas. But so was the UW / Oregon game in Autzen.
I'll be surprised if Washington doesn't win this game.
Assume you're talking about Minny and Cuse, but I have seen some cappers I like on that over. No opinion on that for me, as you know and have noted.I know you are not a totals player, but 44.5 is pretty low in a college game where both offenses (Illy and Cuse) should have success against the opposing defense, even if possessions will be limited.
It’s hard to find a bowl game that isn’t high variance, actually. Typically with a short dog I always like to take the points(Kansas a great example why yesterday), but so many dogs who cover win outright this time of year. As a result, I would not disagree with looking to get a better payout.I played Washington -2.5 +180 yesterday. Feels like a high variance game to me
I can think of a couple Big 12 teams that I’ll be fading along with you, but there’s a couple I haven’t made my mind up on yet. I’ve actually seen quite a few people on Kansas that I give credence to. We’re all going down in flames.
I can't imagine where they ever got their name.... "Teasers".I mean to to say you were in the vast MAJORITY. Too many tokes before I wrote that comment so I'm surprised I didn't make more errors
I'm with you on seeing a couple of Big 12 teams that could surprise. That's why I'm using teaser to bet against them. Florida State is the only one I'm taking straight up, but I'm also taking them in a couple of teasers including one with Washington.
I only have a small sample because I just started betting teasers in the last half of the season, but I may bet nothing but teasers if I can hold the percentage I'm hitting with them in the last couple of months
14. Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl UCLA -7.5 v Pitt: Now there's a little bit of risk because sometimes the team with all it's players will relax
exactly. who knows if Charbs plays this whole game for exampleOr the team/players treat the game like a farewell tour and get pulled early like Mo Ibrahim yesterday.
That's something I need to be really mindful of going forward. And especially for the Sugar Bowl. Just cause these guys show the 'courage' to play doesn't mean they're signing up for 4 quarters.
This is a very good point. There is definitely a lot of risk in guys ending up in street clothes.Or the team/players treat the game like a farewell tour and get pulled early like Mo Ibrahim yesterday.
That's something I need to be really mindful of going forward. And especially for the Sugar Bowl. Just cause these guys show the 'courage' to play doesn't mean they're signing up for 4 quarters.
I would be shocked if Alabama treats this as anything other than a regular game. Meaning, I think Bryce and Will (and everyone) are going to play their normal snap loadOr the team/players treat the game like a farewell tour and get pulled early like Mo Ibrahim yesterday.
That's something I need to be really mindful of going forward. And especially for the Sugar Bowl. Just cause these guys show the 'courage' to play doesn't mean they're signing up for 4 quarters.
haha I feel you. I def have no self control :bigcry:Similar reads as you and respect your ability to lay off. I love all favorites today which is a bad recipe.
Interested in your take on the Sugar Bowl my man. I love love love what the Bama guys. If anyone has a reason to sit out a bow it's Anderson and Young, and they're playing. It kind of makes all these guys opting out because they have a shot at being a day 3 draft pick look bad, IMO.I would be shocked if Alabama treats this as anything other than a regular game. Meaning, I think Bryce and Will (and everyone) are going to play their normal snap load
I was surprised by their decision at first, but in retrospect I shouldn't have been. These two guys have been as good as ambassadors for the program, and college football as a whole, that you could ever ask for. I know they didn't achieve what they wanted, but even without that, they will both hold an elevated position in the program's history. And once those two said they are playing, I don't know how anyone else on the team could look at anyone in the eye and said they were opting out. Now that all being said, Kansas St is a very good team, and likely better than anyone Alabama has beaten this year. And probably as good or better than Tenn and LSU, who both beat us. And they will certainly be up for this game. Historically, having a month to prepare for an opponent has been very good for Alabama. And I think it will be here too, but there are some reasons for concern. For one, we will be down a starter on the OL. It is somewhat minimized by the fact that Tyler Booker played a huge amount this year, and he will just slide in and be a full time player at LG rather than part time between LG/RG. After that is where it gets a little tricky. Nobody notable transferred from the OL, but the depth is impacted for this game should anyone get injured. More concerning for Alabama is the Will LB. Both the guys who have played the majority of snaps this season are banged up, with Moody (played the most snaps I think) likely out. Maybe we'll be able to play a lot of nickel like we normally do, but that could certainly impact how effective KSt is at running the ball.Interested in your take on the Sugar Bowl my man. I love love love what the Bama guys. If anyone has a reason to sit out a bow it's Anderson and Young, and they're playing. It kind of makes all these guys opting out because they have a shot at being a day 3 draft pick look bad, IMO.
Awesome as always from a guy whose opinion I always want to know. Thanks so much for taking the time, gps. I'm stuck with a K State bet that I can't get out of now, and the only reason I made that bet was hoping for a middle when the Bama guys maybe opted out. No further damage on this one for me, and your well reasoned opinion on it was the clincher.I was surprised by their decision at first, but in retrospect I shouldn't have been. These two guys have been as good as ambassadors for the program, and college football as a whole, that you could ever ask for. I know they didn't achieve what they wanted, but even without that, they will both hold an elevated position in the program's history. And once those two said they are playing, I don't know how anyone else on the team could look at anyone in the eye and said they were opting out. Now that all being said, Kansas St is a very good team, and likely better than anyone Alabama has beaten this year. And probably as good or better than Tenn and LSU, who both beat us. And they will certainly be up for this game. Historically, having a month to prepare for an opponent has been very good for Alabama. And I think it will be here too, but there are some reasons for concern. For one, we will be down a starter on the OL. It is somewhat minimized by the fact that Tyler Booker played a huge amount this year, and he will just slide in and be a full time player at LG rather than part time between LG/RG. After that is where it gets a little tricky. Nobody notable transferred from the OL, but the depth is impacted for this game should anyone get injured. More concerning for Alabama is the Will LB. Both the guys who have played the majority of snaps this season are banged up, with Moody (played the most snaps I think) likely out. Maybe we'll be able to play a lot of nickel like we normally do, but that could certainly impact how effective KSt is at running the ball.
I think the matchup that could decide this is Alabama running game vs KSt run defense. KSt is 83rd YPC on defense, and Alabama is 4th on offense. Gibbs should be healthy and motivated to improve his draft stock, plus it's his first bowl game in his career. If Alabama can run the ball effectively, then that opens it all up for Bryce and the passing game. It will be a much smaller WR rotation than it was all season, and I actually think it's a good thing because it was hard to distribute a limited amount of snaps between all those WR. Especially since none of them seemed to be able to separate themselves from the others.
On defense, I don't expect Alabama to produce a vintage Tide game, but I have to think it will be the most athletic defense KSt has seen, especially with the pass rushers.
Overall, I expect a focused and motivated Alabama team. They think they should have been in the playoff (they shouldn't) and want to prove it. Saban mentioned that it's bee one of the best bowl preps he's had since he's been there, and I think they are ready to play their best game of the season. Maybe that doesn't mean much, but I tend to think it does. I will be heavy on the over, and Alabama TT over, and I think they will cover the 6.5 as well (shocker, I know). KSt will certainly make them work for it, but I think it will end up being something like 45-20 Alabama.
Honored that a capper of your stature cares what I think. Good luck the rest of bowl season Brass. Your threads are always a must read by anyone wishing to win betsAwesome as always from a guy whose opinion I always want to know. Thanks so much for taking the time, gps. I'm stuck with a K State bet that I can't get out of now, and the only reason I made that bet was hoping for a middle when the Bama guys maybe opted out. No further damage on this one for me, and your well reasoned opinion on it was the clincher.
Wow, I had no idea about the TO ratio. I didn't think it was even possible for Alabama to have a negative TO ratio. I would think the CFB gods would not allow it. Great info Timmy.I really agree on your comments GPS about the TIde getting the running game going and having that lead to nice opening and balance with passing game. I would expect a decent tempo in this game, which should help the over also. Of concern is Ala TO ratio at -4 which is not typical for them, have to go back to 2014 to find a negative ratio prior to this. Takeaways in particular are very low this season only 12. I think the Tide will be motivated, and as you said the key leaders have set a great example.
Ha! It's the other way around. I'm just glad you make your way in here.Honored that a capper of your stature cares what I think. Good luck the rest of bowl season Brass. Your threads are always a must read by anyone wishing to win bets
Thanks Hunt! Same to you!Happy new year brass
On point regarding Bam. Tailed the shit out of this. Nice jobI was surprised by their decision at first, but in retrospect I shouldn't have been. These two guys have been as good as ambassadors for the program, and college football as a whole, that you could ever ask for. I know they didn't achieve what they wanted, but even without that, they will both hold an elevated position in the program's history. And once those two said they are playing, I don't know how anyone else on the team could look at anyone in the eye and said they were opting out. Now that all being said, Kansas St is a very good team, and likely better than anyone Alabama has beaten this year. And probably as good or better than Tenn and LSU, who both beat us. And they will certainly be up for this game. Historically, having a month to prepare for an opponent has been very good for Alabama. And I think it will be here too, but there are some reasons for concern. For one, we will be down a starter on the OL. It is somewhat minimized by the fact that Tyler Booker played a huge amount this year, and he will just slide in and be a full time player at LG rather than part time between LG/RG. After that is where it gets a little tricky. Nobody notable transferred from the OL, but the depth is impacted for this game should anyone get injured. More concerning for Alabama is the Will LB. Both the guys who have played the majority of snaps this season are banged up, with Moody (played the most snaps I think) likely out. Maybe we'll be able to play a lot of nickel like we normally do, but that could certainly impact how effective KSt is at running the ball.
I think the matchup that could decide this is Alabama running game vs KSt run defense. KSt is 83rd YPC on defense, and Alabama is 4th on offense. Gibbs should be healthy and motivated to improve his draft stock, plus it's his first bowl game in his career. If Alabama can run the ball effectively, then that opens it all up for Bryce and the passing game. It will be a much smaller WR rotation than it was all season, and I actually think it's a good thing because it was hard to distribute a limited amount of snaps between all those WR. Especially since none of them seemed to be able to separate themselves from the others.
On defense, I don't expect Alabama to produce a vintage Tide game, but I have to think it will be the most athletic defense KSt has seen, especially with the pass rushers.
Overall, I expect a focused and motivated Alabama team. They think they should have been in the playoff (they shouldn't) and want to prove it. Saban mentioned that it's bee one of the best bowl preps he's had since he's been there, and I think they are ready to play their best game of the season. Maybe that doesn't mean much, but I tend to think it does. I will be heavy on the over, and Alabama TT over, and I think they will cover the 6.5 as well (shocker, I know). KSt will certainly make them work for it, but I think it will end up being something like 45-20 Alabama.
I was surprised by their decision at first, but in retrospect I shouldn't have been. These two guys have been as good as ambassadors for the program, and college football as a whole, that you could ever ask for. I know they didn't achieve what they wanted, but even without that, they will both hold an elevated position in the program's history. And once those two said they are playing, I don't know how anyone else on the team could look at anyone in the eye and said they were opting out. Now that all being said, Kansas St is a very good team, and likely better than anyone Alabama has beaten this year. And probably as good or better than Tenn and LSU, who both beat us. And they will certainly be up for this game. Historically, having a month to prepare for an opponent has been very good for Alabama. And I think it will be here too, but there are some reasons for concern. For one, we will be down a starter on the OL. It is somewhat minimized by the fact that Tyler Booker played a huge amount this year, and he will just slide in and be a full time player at LG rather than part time between LG/RG. After that is where it gets a little tricky. Nobody notable transferred from the OL, but the depth is impacted for this game should anyone get injured. More concerning for Alabama is the Will LB. Both the guys who have played the majority of snaps this season are banged up, with Moody (played the most snaps I think) likely out. Maybe we'll be able to play a lot of nickel like we normally do, but that could certainly impact how effective KSt is at running the ball.
I think the matchup that could decide this is Alabama running game vs KSt run defense. KSt is 83rd YPC on defense, and Alabama is 4th on offense. Gibbs should be healthy and motivated to improve his draft stock, plus it's his first bowl game in his career. If Alabama can run the ball effectively, then that opens it all up for Bryce and the passing game. It will be a much smaller WR rotation than it was all season, and I actually think it's a good thing because it was hard to distribute a limited amount of snaps between all those WR. Especially since none of them seemed to be able to separate themselves from the others.
On defense, I don't expect Alabama to produce a vintage Tide game, but I have to think it will be the most athletic defense KSt has seen, especially with the pass rushers.
Overall, I expect a focused and motivated Alabama team. They think they should have been in the playoff (they shouldn't) and want to prove it. Saban mentioned that it's bee one of the best bowl preps he's had since he's been there, and I think they are ready to play their best game of the season. Maybe that doesn't mean much, but I tend to think it does. I will be heavy on the over, and Alabama TT over, and I think they will cover the 6.5 as well (shocker, I know). KSt will certainly make them work for it, but I think it will end up being something like 45-20 Alabama.