B1G Bowl Season Discussion
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Johnnyonthespot
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Urban quits.
Ryan Day takes over for Rose Bowl
Ryan Day takes over for Rose Bowl
Obviously you need to cap different things now. This team has been lights out since b4 UM when I assume that Meyer told the players (that was the Tuesday thing I believe of that week). So, you gotta think they come out hungry again. It will be interesting to see how line shoots up from here.
They gameplanned perfectly for UM. They were hungry to beat their hated rivals. Took them a while to put NW away
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
NFL careers are much shorter than MLB careers, and it’s not really even close, especially when talking about QBs. There are the elite QBs, who never seem to get hurt and play for a long time...those aren’t the type of QB that Kyler is though. Cam Newton takes a beating, but he’s a giant compared to Kyler.
NFL salaries are set for the first few years in the league, he’s not making anywhere close to $5 million/year let alone $30 million until he’s well established himself in the league and has more than likely actually won something...that doesn’t seem likely at all.
While I appreciate the devil’s advocate position and discussion, this is an absolute no brainer. I’m also not really sure what an NFL QB being “the highest pro sports level” really means in the discussion. It should be about financial opportunity, career longevity, and long term health. One pro sport is at the top of the list for that...and it’s clearly not football.
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Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Cant fault him for choosing baseball- It is better for the health, non contact, etc and easy on the body.
If he were to play football he would have more impact on his team-- The QB has a huge impact- He could really use his skill set well.
There is no guarantee he will be another Russel Wilson as well.
Sucks to be so good at 2 sports!
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
I get it Samuel, how to choose between pool and foosball
Throw in eSports now what's a man to do?
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
He may have more impact on his team in football, but that’s meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Would you value a longer career, more money (guaranteed at that), and potentially a longer/healthier life or having an impact on a sports team?
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
I hear you. Like most ppl follow the money.
When you factor in longevity health etc baseball is the best sport.
Nfl isn’t a good option from health with Cte etc. Some players get hit more than others but I suspect most end up with Cte.
I guess you could also factor in which sport you are better in?
Lebron chose basketball and he is obviously one of best ever.
But he could have also started in the nfl but as you eloquently pointed out he would already be retired from the nfl and his body would be busted up.
jedi ninja
Larry the liberal
If Bo Jackson only played pro baseball, imagine how his career would have shaped up.
Seinfeld?
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Sammy Meatballs
Sammy Meatballs? Never Heard of Her
Good example of a star getting career ended by a hip injury.
Robbed us of seeing one of the best athletes of all time until he was reincarnated into Sequan Barkley!
pressitup
Leader of the Adult Humor Industry
You'd have to figure in how long his leg would last after breaking bats over it. Probably didn't hurt him at all.
Guy was a monster, except vs. the Ags in the Cotton Bowl.
survive&advance
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Man..looks like just about everyone and their grandmas are on osu
80% I'm guessing through 2015 then around 55% or so since.
Jimmydafreak
Pretty much a regular
I'll just leave this here. Harbaugh possibly interested in the Green Bay job. I'm sure Aaaron Rogers will be awesome running the Bo Schembechler offense.
https://thebiglead.com/2018/12/05/c...-is-in-play-for-green-bay-and-cleveland-jobs/
https://thebiglead.com/2018/12/05/c...-is-in-play-for-green-bay-and-cleveland-jobs/
Discussed that in the other thread but just the usual December stuff. Nothing to see here
Okay, here is my quick take as of 12/8/2018 on the above play.
If this game was played in the regular season, Michigan would win pretty comfortably. This is basically the SEC equivalent of Penn State in my opinion (not exact style but as far as how I would rate them). It would be a comfortable 27-30 to 13-17 kind of game.
But...
Bowls are becoming more and more of an animal nowadays.
So, why do I like Florida as of today?
-Nothing has changed, this team will be motivated. Many of them remember getting smoked in Dallas to begin last season.
-Several players were around for the 2016 Citrus Bowl, which was also a blowout(obviously not a lot, but I am sure this is being used by the staff)
-This bowl game will mean more to them. It is a solid accomplishment to cap off a pretty good season. They have to like how the program arc is going right now.
So, why do I not like Michigan as of today?
-Motivation is big. Now, several players have noted they really want a good bowl showing after last years 2nd half collapse. I am not buying that in totality.
-I expect, as I said, that several players on defense will not play. Gary is announced out. I fully expect Bush, Hill and Long to join along with maybe another one up in the air. That is 4 draft picks right there not playing. The corners will be felt the most out of all this(if they do not play)
-Either way, this defense (throw away the Urban retirement game which they got blasted to another planet) when at full or near full strength is pretty damn good, among the best still. The thing is, they won't be at full strength most likely.
-I would expect you'll hear about one key contributor on offense not playing as well. We shall see.
This line, in my estimation has topped out. I do not see it going much higher or really at all. The initial movement last Sunday was towards the Florida side and I expect it will close below 7.
Now, I am not one that believes in betting too early this time of year due to suspensions/etc. Well, we are really taking a gamble here when it comes to the Gators! lol. They always have some players that cannot keep their nose clean during the break from school.
Either way, I do expect to keep the bet or I can buy off. I want the number and feel good about it in this particular game. I in no way would endorse such a play in a regular season game.
If this game was played in the regular season, Michigan would win pretty comfortably. This is basically the SEC equivalent of Penn State in my opinion (not exact style but as far as how I would rate them). It would be a comfortable 27-30 to 13-17 kind of game.
But...
Bowls are becoming more and more of an animal nowadays.
So, why do I like Florida as of today?
-Nothing has changed, this team will be motivated. Many of them remember getting smoked in Dallas to begin last season.
-Several players were around for the 2016 Citrus Bowl, which was also a blowout(obviously not a lot, but I am sure this is being used by the staff)
-This bowl game will mean more to them. It is a solid accomplishment to cap off a pretty good season. They have to like how the program arc is going right now.
So, why do I not like Michigan as of today?
-Motivation is big. Now, several players have noted they really want a good bowl showing after last years 2nd half collapse. I am not buying that in totality.
-I expect, as I said, that several players on defense will not play. Gary is announced out. I fully expect Bush, Hill and Long to join along with maybe another one up in the air. That is 4 draft picks right there not playing. The corners will be felt the most out of all this(if they do not play)
-Either way, this defense (throw away the Urban retirement game which they got blasted to another planet) when at full or near full strength is pretty damn good, among the best still. The thing is, they won't be at full strength most likely.
-I would expect you'll hear about one key contributor on offense not playing as well. We shall see.
This line, in my estimation has topped out. I do not see it going much higher or really at all. The initial movement last Sunday was towards the Florida side and I expect it will close below 7.
Now, I am not one that believes in betting too early this time of year due to suspensions/etc. Well, we are really taking a gamble here when it comes to the Gators! lol. They always have some players that cannot keep their nose clean during the break from school.
Either way, I do expect to keep the bet or I can buy off. I want the number and feel good about it in this particular game. I in no way would endorse such a play in a regular season game.
let me add, goals were not set....
This is a letdown for UM, obviously. They had a damn good season, relative to many projections beforehand and were the one B1G Team to outplay their initial ranking from the summer. I just don't know how they get up for this at all. Now, I know what I would LIKE to see but we'll visit that here in the next few weeks...
This is a letdown for UM, obviously. They had a damn good season, relative to many projections beforehand and were the one B1G Team to outplay their initial ranking from the summer. I just don't know how they get up for this at all. Now, I know what I would LIKE to see but we'll visit that here in the next few weeks...
I fully expect Bush, Hill and Long to join along with maybe another one up in the air.
Why? I mean Gary wasn‘t much of a surprise considering he kind of stayed quiet during the season anyways? But those other guys...source?
And doesn‘t Mich like its program arc right now and have a bad bowl memory that it wants to overcome?
Why? I mean Gary wasn‘t much of a surprise considering he kind of stayed quiet during the season anyways? But those other guys...source?
And doesn‘t Mich like its program arc right now and have a bad bowl memory that it wants to overcome?
Solid play and agree. Intangibles favor Florida big time. Michigan could have up to 5 guys out. Harbaugh rather have his kids ready for the pros then ball out. Michigan is like a terrible triple A baseball team that just wants to get their players ready for bigs. Terrible philosophy and one of the reasons they can't win right now.
Hard for me to see how Michigan could care about this bowl after thinking that it'll go to the playoffs only to get killed by its rival. Now it has to play in some pretty meaningless game and Florida yet again instead of against Bama.
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I definitely don't agree with any of this. It doesn't matter who coached the team, these guys would be sitting as is.
Bowl games are meaningless now more than ever. This will get worse and worse every year. As far as source, don't worry about that. Thank you.
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
This thread should be renamed Mich vs UF.
I‘d like Florida more if I knew Franks could be somewhat accurate
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Think it was Hunt's thread I said it, think one team gets mid 30s (at least) and the other mid-upper 20s at least, no side interest for me. Guessing we see not only some gimmicks but so much speed on the fast track...possibly defensive scores too but love how it sets up for points
It’s a motivation thing. Massive OSU win / Big Ten title / playoff berth ahead of you, you lose badly, and your consolation is a bowl game against a team whose ass you’ve kicked twice in a row, including to kick off last year with a lot of these same players on Michigan then.
There’s absolutely no reason for them to give a damn about this game, meanwhile a ton for UF. Lot there for Mullen to use riling them up, also I don’t see even without the motivation how Michigan’s offense scores enough points. Winner of this game is a coin flip.
There’s absolutely no reason for them to give a damn about this game, meanwhile a ton for UF. Lot there for Mullen to use riling them up, also I don’t see even without the motivation how Michigan’s offense scores enough points. Winner of this game is a coin flip.
Agree to disagree.
I like Oregon TT under. I think Dantonio with all this time to prepare will shut Herbie down. Already has good experience against mobile qb's (like Trace), Oregon's receivers been subpar and MSU got that top running D.
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Is someone out for Northwestern, rather surprised that they're dogged by more than a TD against Scarf
twinkie13
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Hahaha I see you homeboy
MSU gonna be down both starting corners tho and the backup, which could be meaningful if he does play and if he is healthy
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