2021 CFP Discussion
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gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
A thought exercise for the forum. A plausible (though unlikely) scenario could result in this:
Alabama wins out, including over an undefeated UGA in SEC Champ Game
Ohio St wins out
Oregon wins out
Oklahoma wins out
Cincinnati wins out
Wake Forest wins out
Who are the 4? Has to be Alabama, Ohio St, Oregon, UGA, right? I feel comfortable predicting that Cincy and Wake are out. Does OU become the first undefeated P5 to get left out?
Alabama wins out, including over an undefeated UGA in SEC Champ Game
Ohio St wins out
Oregon wins out
Oklahoma wins out
Cincinnati wins out
Wake Forest wins out
Who are the 4? Has to be Alabama, Ohio St, Oregon, UGA, right? I feel comfortable predicting that Cincy and Wake are out. Does OU become the first undefeated P5 to get left out?
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Even though they aren't supposed to consider last year, surely Cincy's near victory over UGA last bowl season is in the back of their minds?
It's in mine.
Timh
CTG Psychiatrist - Dr. Tim
Fickell fucked that game up, and he is solely to blame for the loss imo. I was furious how he choked that fucking game away...and choke is the right word.
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
No Sparty?!
I can't see them beating OSU. That secondary is gonna get torched.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
as Bart Scott would say: CAN'T WAIT!!!!!
so interested to see where they put cincy? i think they will put them in the top 4 even if it simply a token gesture, if they make them 2 or 3 i think cincy might have a real shot to get in!! i suspect they put them 4 tho, in that case cincy might as well kiss a playoff birth goodbye cause they will get jumped unless some really crazy things happen!!
so interested to see where they put cincy? i think they will put them in the top 4 even if it simply a token gesture, if they make them 2 or 3 i think cincy might have a real shot to get in!! i suspect they put them 4 tho, in that case cincy might as well kiss a playoff birth goodbye cause they will get jumped unless some really crazy things happen!!
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i have a real problem with all you ppl putting osu ahead of ducks!! i dont care if ducks havnt looked all that great since then, i just cant in good conscious have osu ahead of them when ducks not only beat them but did so more convincingly than final score would suggest. What has osu shown us since that game that tells us it would go differently? Beating down a bunch of crappy teams doesnt prove that defense would fair any better against ducks zone read. They kinda lucky psu incapable of running the ball (which was why i didnt bet them) or that game could have went different. Maybe and i mean Maybe we can have this conversation again in a few weeks but right now Ducks should be ahead of osu imo.. Unfortunately im afraid you right, maybe not, but even if they put ducks ahead they will still have them jumped at some point, since that harder to explain they prob just put osu ahead of them now.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
uga, cincy, bama, ducks or sparty is what it should be imo, then sooners and osu..
unfortunately it be more like this:
uga
bama
osu
cincy
Maybe they will put sooners ahead of osu just so they dont have to start answering questions about osu/ducks yet!! that would be pretty sneaky! for some reason i forgot sparty, shouldnt they be ahead of osu right now? i think they should.. doesnt matter cause they play so they should at least put teams in places they have earned for now, of course with the understanding when all said and done they will give osu their reserved seat as they draw the money!!
unfortunately it be more like this:
uga
bama
osu
cincy
Maybe they will put sooners ahead of osu just so they dont have to start answering questions about osu/ducks yet!! that would be pretty sneaky! for some reason i forgot sparty, shouldnt they be ahead of osu right now? i think they should.. doesnt matter cause they play so they should at least put teams in places they have earned for now, of course with the understanding when all said and done they will give osu their reserved seat as they draw the money!!
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
For Cincy, it may matter less where they are ranked than how the committee views SMU and Houston. Most years, the initial ranking is pivotal for the G5 team, because they don't have an opportunity to improve their resume moving forward. But if the committee has those other AAC teams in the top 20, Cincy can certainly strengthen their case
IMO:
Win out and they're in: UGA, Alabama, Oregon, Michigan St, Oklahoma
Need to win out and get help: Cincy, Ohio St, Wake Forest
I don't see a scenario where a 2 loss team gets in, but there's still plenty of time for 2007-level chaos
IMO:
Win out and they're in: UGA, Alabama, Oregon, Michigan St, Oklahoma
Need to win out and get help: Cincy, Ohio St, Wake Forest
I don't see a scenario where a 2 loss team gets in, but there's still plenty of time for 2007-level chaos
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i dont see any scenario where osu wins the big10 and doesnt get in, in fact there no freaking chance that happens imo. We have seen this story many a time, even tho you would think ducks winning out is problematic for them i doubt it, committee isnt passing on the big10 champ, especially if it osu! it be a real kick in the nuts to the regular season if ducks win out and are behind osu, i think it possible tho, likely even, i doubt ducks win out but im really hoping they do simply to see this play out. They would be making a really bad statement about how meaningless the reg season is if they do this.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
If it is between Oregon and Ohio St for the last spot, and they are both 12-1 conference champions, I don't see the Ducks being left out, even though Ohio St will have the better resume, and I think they are a better team. Surely, the committee won't do that. Surely, right?
guaranteeed
Pretty much a regular
6th for cinci lol
2daBank
Voice of Reason
lol. I agree bout almost all of it, Cept the last part, I think they would do that. After osu beats the Michigan’s I think they will do it. Hope I’m wrong. Honestly doubt ducks win out anyways.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I told you they were gonna fuck cincy kj! These lousy, corrupt, shit bags didn’t even give them any hope! I thought they needed to be 2 or 3 to have any chance, they clearly have none, maybe, and I mean maybe, if all the other schools in front of the lose another game, maybe cincy be 4!! Most likely they just have another dog shit excuse.
How can they put ND 10 then say Cincy ain’t played anyone??? This so garbage. Dunno why I’m mad, I knew it was coming, I did kinda think they at least dangle some hope but guess not. No interest even implying a non power 5 will ever get let into their bogus national championship.
How can they put ND 10 then say Cincy ain’t played anyone??? This so garbage. Dunno why I’m mad, I knew it was coming, I did kinda think they at least dangle some hope but guess not. No interest even implying a non power 5 will ever get let into their bogus national championship.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Shades of 1978, though you are taking the USC position over that of Alabama.
The committee is valuing the Oregon win in the Horseshoe more than the P12 vs B1G argument.
This is the dumbest shit. Why does Cincy even bother to play? Alabama's resume is not very different from Auburn's but they are #2 because they are named Alabama. Just like when they ousted Ohio State for the final spot in the CFP, they always get a pass just for being Alabama. Oregon and OSU jumping undefeated Cincy -- three teams with a good win, but Cincy is undefeated. -- is another exercise in name-gaming and a less excusable one because Oregon plays garbage every week.
They should rename the CFP the "Public Viewership Playoffs"
They should rename the CFP the "Public Viewership Playoffs"
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
I can think of one difference between Alabama and auburn’s resume
Yeah one more loss, but having one more loss doesn't seem to matter for Bama
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Different era, different rules. Plus they both claim titles from that year
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Doesn’t really matter. Alabama has to win out regardless to make playoff.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
You have it backward. I took Bama's side in 1978. My noting that you're going the other way this time is supposed to compliment your objectivity.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Yep. It garbage. Why is cincy win over a Irish team they made 10th not worth anything? On the road no less, isn’t that win basically equivalent to ducks win at osu? Im with ya on bama but osu gets the exact same treatment over everyone else, they always get benefit of doubt and if they win big10 they always be in.
They should def stop calling it the national championship tho. And they might as well not even play regular season games since it more about your recruits and fan base. Bama being 2 is comical, just shitting on regular season and saying “well they look better to us, results be damned”.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
It baffling that instead of letting the results decide this thing we have ppl deciding who they think is better. Do they have any documented proof they great at picking games? If not how they qualified to say who better? Doesn’t matter who I think better, what matters is some teams have earned it and they being replaced by teams who don’t have to earn anything.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I’m not worried bout big12 even tho sooners prob do belong ahead of ducks. Why is ducks win at shoe so valued but apparently cincy win at ND means nothing? Outside those 2 games cincy playing crappy conf teams just like ducks struggling to beat crappy conf teams, only difference is cincy hasn’t lost and of course they not in a power 5 so despite what they say they have no real chance. My point basically being fresno and byu have kinda shown us the pac12 teams ducks struggling with or lost to ain’t any better than few the non power 5 conf that the committee shits on.
KJ
Bump. Set. Shuma!
Reality is if Clemson's only loss was to Georgia they'd be in there too
This was a concept (I won't ever call it a good one) but the BCS was so much better, at least the arguments and banter was exciting
Now it's nothing but the saturation, unless you're a fan of those blue bloods, who watches it other than for gambling?
Hell I gamble and probably haven't watched the semis or the finals intently since the year Ohio St won it and that's because I cleaned up. Not much desire to watch the same matchups every year while other teams start the season with zero chance of playing for a championship.
This was a concept (I won't ever call it a good one) but the BCS was so much better, at least the arguments and banter was exciting
Now it's nothing but the saturation, unless you're a fan of those blue bloods, who watches it other than for gambling?
Hell I gamble and probably haven't watched the semis or the finals intently since the year Ohio St won it and that's because I cleaned up. Not much desire to watch the same matchups every year while other teams start the season with zero chance of playing for a championship.
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Just curious, how many teams other than UGA would you put your money on to beat Alabama on a neutral? The whole committee thing sucks, and I agree BCS method was better, but they generally get the 4 teams right at the end.
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