2015-2016 Trade Deadline News, Rumors etc

nbafan88

nbafan88

Pretty much a regular
Trade deadline is 2/19.... The first day players return from break..... Should be a lot of chatter during all star break and it works out nicely that there is a week of no action for these GMs to chat with each other in Toronto. Lol


any team eying Dwight is dumb..... Just dumb. About to over pay for an asset that will more likely than not fuck everything up. Please dear god don't go to Boston.
 
nbafan88 said:
Trade deadline is 2/19.... The first day players return from break..... Should be a lot of chatter during all star break and it works out nicely that there is a week of no action for these GMs to chat with each other in Toronto. Lol


any team eying Dwight is dumb..... Just dumb. About to over pay for an asset that will more likely than not fuck everything up. Please dear god don't go to Boston.
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I hate Dwight, a cancer to a team.
 
nbafan88 said:
Exactly. He has never been serious about winning. He frankly is a clown. Always has been. And he's going to be looking for max money. He'll need it to support all his baby mamas
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Saw him laugh last night after he missed a FT.
He put a nice "numbers" against a bunch of nobodies last night, two 6'9'' centers plumlee and ed Davis then 7 foot outside shooter Myers Leonard. Howard is a fraud. I wouldn't want him on my Sixers.
 
A good place to put this as any..... Very interesting stuff.


[h=1]With Teams Tanking for Ben Simmons, How Can NBA Bettors Capitalize?[/h]If there’s one thing that I have learned through my years of following the NBA, it’s nearly impossible to win a championship without a bonafide superstar. Lately it seems like teams need an all-time great in order to compete for a title. Sure there are anomalies like the 2003-04 Detroit Pistons that thrived by playing an unselfish brand of basketball and suffocating defense, but that’s the exception that proves to rule.
Recent champions include the Warriors, Spurs, Heat, Mavericks, Lakers and Celtics. These rosters included the likes of Stephen Curry, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Shaquille O’Neal, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. Every single player on that list was selected in the lottery, and three were the first overall pick.
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Want to look back even farther? Elite championship teams from the 80’s and 90’s like the Bulls, Rockets, Pistons, Lakers and Celtics were similarly star-studded. Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Hakeem Olajuwon, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were all top-five draft picks and future Hall of Famers.
There’s always a possibility that you can land one of these franchise cornerstones through free agency, but that opportunity is only available to select big market cities. For a majority of the league, the most common means of acquiring a star player is through the NBA Draft and the best way to procure a top pick is by posting one of the league’s worst records.
Being a mid-tier NBA team is the equivalent of basketball purgatory. The elite teams contend for titles and the worst teams are hoping to land that superstar who can take them to the next level. That’s the reason why many fans and analysts have become enamored with tanking — i.e. trading away your best players in an attempt to lose as many games as possible and increase your probability of landing a top draft pick.
Most general managers will deny that tanking exists, but some of the past examples are undeniable. The 1996-97 San Antonio Spurs shut down their role players after David Robinson suffered a season ending foot injury. The next season they drafted Tim Duncan.
The 2002-03 Cleveland Cavaliers traded away arguably their best player (Andre Miller), dealt one of their top scorers (Wesley Person) for pennies on the dollar, and allowed Ricky Davis to play huge minutes despite his allergy to playing defense. Head coach John Lucas would later state that owner Gordon Gund had intentionally traded away these players in order to lose games, and the next season the team drafted LeBron James.
Current teams like the Minnesota Timberwolves and Philadelphia 76ers have embraced the tanking strategy which was popularized by the Oklahoma City Thunder. This strategy involves building around a young core, trading away useful players for future assets, and accepting losses as these green players gain experience and learn on the job. This strategy requires some luck, but for some general managers it may be their only option.
With the trade deadline rapidly approaching, we’re only weeks away from this tanking movement kicking into full gear. The league’s cellar dwellers will inevitably trade away their best players for future draft picks, increase playing time for their young players and determine who fits into the team’s long-term plans.
To be clear, tanking isn’t something embraced by the players. These are professional athletes who will always try their hardest — even if it’s for selfish purposes. Tanking is a tactic employed by general managers, who implore their coaches to play inexperienced players. These players benefit by learning from their mistakes, and the franchise benefits when the team loses and lands the opportunity to draft a transcendent talent.
This season, that franchise-changing talent is LSU forward Ben Simmons. The 6’10” freshman is incredibly smooth with elite athleticism plus the court vision and passing ability of a point guard. On the season, Simmons is averaging 19.4 points, 12.3 rebounds and 5.0 assists per game and has drawn some comparisons to LeBron James. He’s also listed as a -450 favorite to be the first overall pick in June’s draft.
Knowing that the tanking process will begin within the next few weeks, we believed that we could create a profitable betting system by fading the league’s worst teams in late season games. Our first step was classifying “late season” games, so we decided to focus on games played after the All-Star Game. We found that teams have typically played 53 games before the break, so we wanted to highlight instances where the game number was 54 or higher.
Once we had narrowed our focus to late season games, we wanted to see how the league’s worst teams had fared. Considering teams who are hovering around the .500 mark are still competing for a playoff spot, we chose to examine teams with a winning percentage of less than 40%. Since 2005, teams fitting these criteria have gone just 1,206-1,284 ATS (48.4%) in late season games versus 2,699-2,586 ATS (51.1%) in early season games.
This trend helped confirm that teams do tank in late season games and, more importantly, showed that these teams also struggled to cover the spread. This system had all the components of a “fade” system, meaning we would bet against any teams who fit these criteria.
We also believed these results could be improved when the opposing team was contending for playoff position. To accomplish that, we looked at instances where the opposing team’s winning percentage was at least 50%, and the record of the system dropped to 647-719 ATS (47.4%). When we turn it into a fade system, we can see that the system is already profitable.

We hypothesized that tanking teams would be unlikely to win consecutive games, since that would be detrimental to their goal of landing a high draft pick and drafting a franchise player. By examining tanking teams following a victory, our record improved to 238-176 ATS (57.5%) with +51.47 units won. Since we were able to increase our overall units won while reducing our sample size by roughly 950 games, our return on investment (ROI) skyrocketed from 3% to 12.4%.
Previous research has shown that home-court advantage has been extremely overvalued, so that seemed like the perfect final addition to our fade system. In an intriguing turn, fading home teams has been far more profitable (131-81 ATS, +44.62 units) although visitors (107-95, +6.84 units) have still offered a positive expected value.
It was also interesting to see that by examining games played in the last quarter of the season, we were able to increase our ROI despite a slight decrease to our overall units won.

At the time of publication there were six teams with a winning percentage of 39% of lower. These are the only teams that will potentially fit the criteria for our system.

  1. Philadelphia 76ers (15.1%)
  2. Los Angeles Lakers (20.0%)
  3. Brooklyn Nets (25.9%)
  4. Phoenix Suns (25.9%)
  5. Minnesota Timberwolves (31.5%)
  6. New Orleans Pelicans (38.5%)
The Milwaukee Bucks (39.6%), Denver Nuggets (40.7%) and Sacramento Kings (41.5%) are all on the fringe, and could fall under the 39% threshold with a short losing streak. We should also point out that the Celtics own the Nets draft pick, which decreases their incentive to tank. The Lakers will have to convey their draft pick to the 76ers if it’s outside of the top-three, which increases their incentive to tank.
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Can't believe the heat is thinking about trading for howard.... Whiteside for howard ill take that all day...
 
Heat did have a great chance to observe Dwight, when he played in Orlando and Whiteside has his share of downsides as well.
I don't like Dwight, but he is not as bad as many suddenly claim...
 
someone please take Howard!!!

Guy sucks, has no heart. Hes worried about how his hair cut is. I said it before Rockets got him that he is a soft ass center!!

He, like Vince, likes to go eat at Cheesecake Factory in his two tone Phantom..fuker!
 
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I'm not much of a futures player, but the Heat at + money seems awfully enticing...

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I ran the numbers real quick, and Miami's remaining SOS is .477 while Atlanta's is .548. In addition, the Heat have a tonne of creampuffs left including 2 against the Sixers and 3 against the Magic, while the Hawks have a 5 game roadie starting the first week of March that probably either makes or breaks them (GSW, LAL, LAC, UTA, TOR).

Only reason I'm posting this in here is because, if you believe the rumours, the Hawks are ready to pull the trigger on deals involving Horford and Teague (Horford I get, Teague no idea why they'd want to deal him). Seems pretty strange they'd be willing to pull the plug like this, but if it happens, think it's pretty much a given the Heat take the division.
 
Along that ^^^ same line take a look at Charlotte at +590. Too lazy to do the calcs right now but their remaining may be even easier than Miami's with only 12 of 29 against teams at .500 or better. That's worth at least lunch money.
 
Told u guys its coming...

Hassan Whiteside: Miami Heat Discussing Trading Center for Rockets' Dwight Howard, Report Says
The Heat would have to send several other players to the Rockets to account for the salary disparity between Howard and Whiteside, Frank Isola of the New York Daily News reported Monday
 
Miami are trying the right thing. Heat have better chance in the East this season, than with Whiteside.
Obvious minuses, but Dwight has more upsides I believe.
 
divol said:
Miami are trying the right thing. Heat have better chance in the East this season, than with Whiteside.
Obvious minuses, but Dwight has more upsides I believe.
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Huh?


Dwight is an absolute cancer.


Worst possible decision any team could make.
 
divol said:
Miami are trying the right thing. Heat have better chance in the East this season, than with Whiteside.
Obvious minuses, but Dwight has more upsides I believe.
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I think the heat are crazy. Why do you think howard has more upside.
 
Because with Whiteside, they got zero chance to get to the Finals. Dwight in his prime, was amazing in Florida. Healthy Dwight gives them small chance to get there.
Whiteside will be gone in six months anyway, so why not gamble?
 
divol said:
Because with Whiteside, they got zero chance to get to the Finals. Dwight in his prime, was amazing in Florida. Healthy Dwight gives them small chance to get there.
Whiteside will be gone in six months anyway, so why not gamble?
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Very key here.
 
He has proven that he is no longer in his prime and he has been awful at each stop since ORL.
 
divol said:
Because with Whiteside, they got zero chance to get to the Finals. Dwight in his prime, was amazing in Florida. Healthy Dwight gives them small chance to get there.
Whiteside will be gone in six months anyway, so why not gamble?
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Whiteside is:

1: younger
2: better health and cheaper
3: better defensive player
4: his offensive game is even better to me
5: plays with a edge, dwight is so silly

Dwight is a over hyped and over paid athlete. Also his style of play is no longer in the nba, with the orl slow pace dump it to dwight and let him dish out to 3pt shooters.
 
But again... Hassan will leave the Heat this summer. Why not take a chance?
Whiteside was much more lost cause on paper than Dwight...
 
This guy has been on the decline for some time Divol

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[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]2.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]20.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.0980392)"]
[TH="class: season"]2009-10[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]ORL[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]82[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]34:40[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]10.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]61.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]5.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]10.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]59.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]9.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]13.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]0.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]2.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]18.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: season"]2010-11[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]ORL[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]78[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]37:37[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]7.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]13.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]59.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]7.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]11.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]59.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]10.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]14.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]2.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]22.9[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.0470588)"]
[TH="class: season"]2011-12[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]ORL[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]38:19[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]7.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]13.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]57.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]5.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]49.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]3.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]10.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]14.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]2.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]20.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: season"]2012-13[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]LAL[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]76[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]35:48[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]10.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]57.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage, align: center"]16.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]4.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]9.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]49.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]9.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]12.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]1.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]2.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]17.1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.0470588)"]
[TH="class: season"]2013-14[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]HOU[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]71[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]33:45[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]6.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]11.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]59.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage, align: center"]28.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]4.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]54.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]8.9[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]12.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]3.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]0.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]1.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]18.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: season"]2014-15[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]HOU[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]29:49[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]6.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]10.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]59.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage, align: center"]50.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]6.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]52.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]2.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]7.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]10.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]2.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]0.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]1.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]15.8[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.0470588)"]
[TH="class: season"]2015-16[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"]HOU[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 games, align: center"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 minutes-played, align: center"]32:15[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 field-goals-made, align: center"]5.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 field-goals-attempted, align: center"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 field-goal-percentage, align: center"]61.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 3-point-shots-made dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 3-point-shots-attemped, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 3-point-percentage dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 free-throws-made, align: center"]3.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 free-throws-attempted, align: center"]7.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 free-throw-percentage, align: center"]53.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 offensive-rebounds, align: center"]3.6[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 defensive-rebounds, align: center"]8.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 total-rebounds, align: center"]12.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 assists, align: center"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 turnovers, align: center"]2.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 steals, align: center"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 blocked-shots, align: center"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 personal-fouls, align: center"]3.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 points-scored, align: center"]14.6[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH="class: totals"]Totals[/TH]
[TD="class: team-id team"][/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-1 stat-total, align: center"]853[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-3 stat-total, align: center"]35:26[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-5 stat-total, align: center"]6.4[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-4 stat-total, align: center"]11.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-6 stat-total, align: center"]58.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-11 stat-total dimmed, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-10 stat-total, align: center"]0.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-12 stat-total, align: center"]9.8[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-8 stat-total, align: center"]5.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-7 stat-total, align: center"]9.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-9 stat-total, align: center"]57.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-14 stat-total, align: center"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-15 stat-total, align: center"]9.2[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-16 stat-total, align: center"]12.7[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-17 stat-total, align: center"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-20 stat-total, align: center"]3.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-18 stat-total, align: center"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-19 stat-total, align: center"]2.1[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-22 stat-total, align: center"]3.3[/TD]
[TD="class: nba-stat-type-13 stat-total, align: center"]18[/TD]
[/TR]
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Both are there till summer. There is 99% chance they will be worse with Dwight, but that 1% worth the risk, since with Hassan, they got 0% to get to the Finals.
That's my opinion anyway.
 
The Lakers still haven't recovered from Dwight being there ;).

No reason to alienate a fanbase by having that screwball on your team.
 
Hassan got issues as well. If you noticed, he had his minutes reduced even now, when he is back from injury.
Heat need to be either in the bottom 10, to own their pick or to have at least some shot at the NBA Finals.
The safe choice, of keeping Hassan, fighting for HCA and exiting the playoffs in the first or second round... Not sure how smart it will be.
Dwight was really good against the Clips last year in the playoffs. Much better than Harden btw...
Dwight is a cancer and has huge minuses and I don't like him, but still... he has upsides as well.
I honestly believe that there is logic behind this for the Heat and it will be the right move if they do it.
Obviously it can backfire and they will finish 17th-20th in the league and will miss the playoffs and still lose the pick, but as I see it, mediocre teams need to take risks...
 
If Hassan or Dwight had contracts that extend beyond this season, I would be thinking this trade is absolutely wrong as well (if it happens), but with both being expiring contracts and with Heat having zero desire to offer Whiteside the max... I think it's a legit risk that they are taking (if indeed they are).
 
divol said:
If Hassan or Dwight had contracts that extend beyond this season, I would be thinking this trade is absolutely wrong as well (if it happens), but with both being expiring contracts and with Heat having zero desire to offer Whiteside the max... I think it's a legit risk that they are taking (if indeed they are).
Click to expand...

The heat really cant offer anyone a max contract.... They already have enough max contracts.
 
B.A.R. said:
The Lakers still haven't recovered from Dwight being there ;).

No reason to alienate a fanbase by having that screwball on your team.
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Why wouldn't Howard be a fit though? It's one thing to be a slow, plodding center in the run and gun West, but within an offensive scheme like Miami's which features no pace at all, don't see any reason why he couldn't dominate as a rental. Besides, who would he have to go up against in that division? Cody Zeller? Marcin Gortat? C'mon yo...
 
hugh613 said:
Why wouldn't Howard be a fit though? It's one thing to be a slow, plodding center in the run and gun West, but within an offensive scheme like Miami's which features no pace at all, don't see any reason why he couldn't dominate as a rental. Besides, who would he have to go up against in that division? Cody Zeller? Marcin Gortat? C'mon yo...
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No andre drummond and the young stud for orl.
 
Whiteside is a cancer in development. Mr F$%king Flagrant.

In the short-term it's a good trade for the Heat. Pat will get the most out of Dwight for half a season at least.

They get Howard, they're in the ECF's conversation.
 
Rockets, Heat, Hawks discussing 3-way. Howard to ATL, Horford and Teague to Miami, Dragic and Whiteside, Anderson to Houston.
 
If I'm the Rockets, I would prefer to take Teague and Horford...
I'm also not sure why Hawks need Dwight and I'm not sure that Schroder is better than Teague. I would trade him before Teague...
 
The Magic have discussed trades involving Victor Oladipo and Tobias Harris, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.

A report from last week said the Magic were looking at a 'Dipo and Jeff Teague deal, so this report solidifies it. Oladipo may be in coach Scott Skiles' doghouse from time to time, but he would likely have more value in Orlando than almost any other team.



WHY???
 
utfootball4 said:
The Magic have discussed trades involving Victor Oladipo and Tobias Harris, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.

A report from last week said the Magic were looking at a 'Dipo and Jeff Teague deal, so this report solidifies it. Oladipo may be in coach Scott Skiles' doghouse from time to time, but he would likely have more value in Orlando than almost any other team.



WHY???
Click to expand...
Skiles is a clown
 
kdog said:
Along that ^^^ same line take a look at Charlotte at +590. Too lazy to do the calcs right now but their remaining may be even easier than Miami's with only 12 of 29 against teams at .500 or better. That's worth at least lunch money.
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That's true, but the Hornets are going to get killed on the road...

View attachment 40470

Plus, it looks like they're going to fall into BAR's super situation on three separate occasions, including twice at the end which probably ends up breaking them (what a brutal looking stretch).
 
The Heat (calf) have "serious concerns" about Chris Bosh's health, according to Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.

The report adds Bosh's agent said it's "too soon to report" if he has another blood clot. Bosh did not play in the All-Star Game due to strained calf and he has returned to Miami for more tests. The good news is that Bosh's health concerns are not life-threatening, according to the report. Hopefully we get good news on Tuesday.
 
That's about what I expected for their road sked & the home games are at least as good as the road is bad.

They fall into BAR's 1st games back angle twice, not three times. The first time they get Phx at home then Philly on the road, 2nd time they get Philly at home then Cleve on the road which would be a pretty unlikely win anyway. Besides, that angle has not been very good so far this season so... Hey it's +590, I expect to lose the bet more often than I win it, I just expect to win it more than 1 in 6 times.
 
You guys are reading the super situation wrong with Charlotte.

There is one, that isn't even a true one. It is an inter-conference one.
 
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