Week 9 ML Dogs

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Week 8 Winners:
UConn +160
Iowa St +215
Rutgers +277
Louisville +250
Pitt +285
BC +230
Arizona St +305
Utah St +150
Charlotte +325
East Carolina +175
Fresno St +205
So Miss +107

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/college-football/money-line/?date=20171021

We had 12 hit this week. *MemFhis on Thursday didn't end up at +$ at kickoff but i had them at +$ when I bet them. NW was a ML dog that hit but they became the Fav at kickoff. So Miss finished as a Fav & a Dog at a couple of books, I went ahead and added them to the list above for tracking purposes if anyone uses this for backtracking in the summer. I was thinking this could be a useful tool for anyone and especially CK when he is in the dungeon grabbing his GOY #s (CK you Stud)

As for ODU, well s--k, you had it but WKU had something to say about that, props as always.

Good Luck Everyone and again, Thank you to EVERYONE who contributes to this thread. Too many to list, but I really appreciate each and everyone of yous guys thoughts & input. we really got something good going here.

On to Week 9.......
 
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California nearly got another one going for two in OT2.

Best performers:

South Carolina +267, +115, +130, +130
Arizona St +506, +711, +267
Cal +410, +237, +639

Others with two:
Arizona +211, +148
Boston College +639, +207
UConn +317, +160
ECU +176, +165
FIU +100, +368
Iowa St +4500, +180
Maryland +664, +416
New Mexico +263, +130
North Carolina State +344, +135
Rutgers +100, +237
San Diego State +125, +249
UAB +263, +166
Utah St +100, +148
 
Man that Cal game was a shit show. In regulation coach was about to go for the 4th down but after the first TO called another TO and sent the kicker out for a career long to tie the game. In OT 3 players made a tackle on Enwere and he still somehow battled into the end zone. Then on the second OT Arizona scored quickly and Cal had a tougher drive. Came down to 4th down again and they converted. They immediately gave the two call and the final play was a pass into the end zone that was broken up. I always enjoy seeing a coach go for two in OT to win the game even if it doesn't always pan out for them. Watching it with Ariz ML and Ariz -1 ticket I thought they were going to lose. Wilcox had a crazy look in his eye.
 
Let's talk about Tulane & Memphis....Memphis total defense ranks 119th, Tulane ranks 95th. Turnover margin Memphis is 10th and Tulane is 15th but there's other teams tied. Actual difference between the teams is only 1 turnover. QB's....I know Memphis has a good one. Can Tulane keep up for a half? Seems like they have 2 out of 3 boxes checked off and, at +10.5 dog, the 1st Half ML should be nice.

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Does Tulane have a good quarterback?
Yeah, that's what I was asking. While you guys are at it, can WF's QB hang with the Heisman Trophy winner?? LOL

Total Def. WF ranks 43rd, UL ranks 61st. Turnover margin WF ranks 25th, UL ranks 73rd. WF has at least 2 of the 3 boxes checked. I'm seeing WF at +5 so thinking 1st Half ML around +120 to +130??
 
Think I found our first 1st Half ML play boyz!! UVA ranks 28th in total defense, Pitt ranks 103rd. UVA ranks 40th in turnover margin and Pitt ranks 44th. UVA ranks 41st in passing offense and Pitt 64th. Not much of a ML as Pitt is -3 FG. 1st Half ML not going to be much more than +110 but it's a start!
 
Looking at Scores and odds next week lines. First run through and I see a few that are interesting.

Why are both AZ teams dogged? At home...

Is Wyoming still riding the preseason hype on their QB?

CAN Tex Tech rise up?

It was clear that Brohm does not have the right personnel to do what he wants. They shouldn't get the RB production against the black shirts. I'll eagerly bow aside to Cubsker on this.

Mizzou TT should be worth looking at.

Short line on Utah, regardless of QB situation.

Dare Charlie to slow down vs Houston. Especially since they play twice in one day. (Hurricane Schedule issue with Cincy)

UGA wins in a route.

We get to see what ND/NCSt are made of.

App St looks short..injuries?

Why is Cal dogged? UVA?

WVU has been bending a lot lately.

The "U" hates playing at Chappel Hill.
 
Ok help me out here .... you know i like the game "flip the field" when talking about line value comparisons ... well, gt closed -3 -115 at home to wake forest this past saturday at bookmaker. This closing line would seem to indicate Wake Forest = Georgia Tech. Fast forward to this week and we have ville -3 at wake forest. This would seem to indicate that ville is 6-7 points better than Wake Forest, which would apparently mean that Ville is 6 or 7 points better than GT. Ya no way. I would like to know how anyone could take Wake on the road last week and not take them at home this week (other than bye preceding). I don't necessarily think there is line value with Wake because I think the closing line Saturday with GT was the silly line, not this one. But if you liked Wake Forest Saturday, you should love them here.

ML Dogs that have my attention

Wake Forest - It would be a shame for this Wake Forest team to not become bowl eligible. Their schedule is not very forgiving .. following this ville game, Wake Forest has to travel to notre dame, then travel to cuse and then host ncstate. That cuse game is now looking harder and what a terrible sandwich game that is too. After ncstate, wake closes out with Duke. Not saying they cannot beat ncstate but you are more than likely looking at cuse and duke to get bowl eligible if they drop this one.

Eastern Michigan - Defense seems capable enough to make this a game.

West Virginia - Should be a volatile game .... not too many games this week should be totaled higher than this one ..Missouri/uconn .... Willie Wonka always intrested in the ok st games.

California - Feels like a bad spot for Cal but I do have a tendency to like the better team getting pts

UCLA - Washington offense just seems down a notch and UCLA very capable throwing the ball. tough spot for ucla and good spot for Washington though.

vanderbilt - I am done backing them myself but it seems plausible. At some point South Carolina isn't just lucky, but maybe they have a formula that works for them to win despite the main set of statistics we utilize to cap games indicating they are not very good compared to their results.

Texas State - I don't pretend to know a ton about Coastal but this seems inflated.

Minny - Teams seem relatively even to me.

Nebraska - Because I have them overrated and have all year.

NMSU - Would you be shocked at all by a nmsu win?
 
I somewhat follow UAB, b/c they are in-state and it is a feel good story to get the program back. After being humbled by loathly Charlotte last week, is it inconceivable for them to win outright this week? So Miss has stunk it up a couple times this year, and it is a little bit of a boarder rivalry.

Also, hold your nose...TN is getting points from KY. Normally, the team that plays Bama is on auto-fade the following week. KY has been fortunate this year to be where they are. Doubt this makes my card, but it is not unreasonable to think they can win this game. Traditionally KY fades late in the year. MSU handed them a beat down last week that could start that slide.
 
I got thru the 6:30 games last night before crashing and found 4 plays that will be on the card for 1st half ML. They are listed below. I did Passover several games that had yet to be lined so there’s going to be more. But these are dogs that rank higher in total defense, turnover margin, and have a senior QB. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

Virginia
Wake Forest
Minnesota
Western Kentucky

Other possibles but did not quite make the cut:

NC State<==very interesting ND might be in letdown mode & Wolfpack should be able to slow the running game down.
San Jose St.
Tulane
Iowa State<==they’re so hot I might take them anyway. I did last week and it worked out.
 
I had a post about Gamecocks in my thread. I do not typically back cocks as a favorite but I stepped out bigger than usual on -6. Vandy has one of the worst run defenses in the country giving up over 5ypc. There is no misleading score in the Tennessee game, they just beat them straight up on the road. Coming home with a lot of starters returning to solidify a bowl. Cocks could lose this straight up but I just don't see it.
 
Vandy last 5 games rushing allowed:
KSt- 35at 201y 5.74/at with 76y passing
Alabama- 66at 496y 7.52/at with 181y passing
Fla- 51at 218y 4.27/at with 249y passing
UGA- 54at 423y 7.83/at with 126y passing
OleMiss- 41at 252y 6.15/at with 351y passing
 
Here are the ones that I seem to like most right now, just the higher odds ones:

Eastern Michigan +258
Just brutal losses they have been suffering, losers of 5 straight essentially all on the final play of the game. Off missed FG OT loss now. But they are a quality team. NIU looked like former self vs BG, thought they might even though I took BG. But EM is significantly better than BG. If EM has any gas left in the tank they can definitely win this. Last year they led 21-0 HT, but lost in OT. This EM team is every bit as good as last year, every bit. The only difference is last year they won 5 out of 6 regular season one-score games. This year they are losing them all.

Florida International +549
This won't be for everyone, LOL it might not end up even being for me. FIU sits 4-2 off a bye. They are an experienced team, although not really a good team in year 1 for Butch Davis. If I get the right FIU team to show up, I think they can do it. If the wrong FIU team shows up Marshall rolls. I really do not feel this Marshall team is that overwhelming. I need the Marshall team that doesn't seem to care much, like when they only beat Kent 21-0, or Charlotte 14-3, or in the first half only led ODU 7-3. See what I mean, I don't know why Marshall has games like that. If they do it here, FIU can beat them. Potential flat spot for them off MTSU with surging FAU on deck, although FIU beating them last year will probably keep their attention.

San Jose St +447
Another ugly dog. Also off bye and didn't look that bad against Hawaii. Run D is going to be biggest concern which makes me pretty nervous. SJSt O did put up 462 three weeks ago and 504 last game vs Hawaii. They are using Fr QB Montel Aaron who missed some of their winnable games (Ut St, UNLV, Fresno), but returned vs Hawaii. BYU is a mess obviously. They are still better and probably win this game, but can't say I'd be surprised if SJ won. Maybe BYU takes out frustration? Or maybe they are worn out from back-to-back trips east of the Mississippi?

North Carolina St +250
NCSt should provide more of a test for ND than SC did. Better QB, better D for Pack. Think SC has better RB and WR weapsons, but if the O can't get them the ball then what are they worth? Seems NCSt will be a tough out here. Off a bye. ND lost to them in that hurricane game where Kelly insisted to keep throwing the ball out of the shotgun. He will let Chip Long keep on the ground more here. Which is ok because that should play into the NCSt D strength. This will be a good battle in the trenches to watch when ND has the ball. NCSt D allowing 84y per game rushing. Irish will get alot more than that, but should make them atleast earn it. Finley is one of, if not the best ACC QB, most efficient atleast...69% 11-0 ratio and doesn't get sacked much, like 1 a game.

Houston +???
If Houston can stop killing themselves with turnovers they very well could've won the last two games and come in here 6-1, instead they are 4-3. Postma has been the right QB for them after Allen struggled, although his turnovers can be the difference. They aren't as good as last year, we all know that, but could be good enough to give USF a run for their money. USF has not been challenged much...at all? this year yet. And Houston looks like their toughest game to date.

Duke +505
This has been a very close series the last several years...2016 24-21 VT, 2015 45-43 Duke OT, 2014 17-16 VT, 2013 13-10 Duke. Now the 2013 and 2014 Duke teams were really good, this team isn't at that level and VT was worse off then. But still even last year when Duke was 4-8 and Hokies were riding high VT only outgained them by 24 yards. VT off a bye and off UNC in a game that they had to do little to nothing to get pts and blow Heels out. Something gives me the feeling these teams are closer than it would appear. VT avg just 126 rushing ypg vs ACC (Clem, BC, NC). Just not sure this Hokie O strikes fear in me. Need Duke to resemble their former self on O, the pieces are there, but they haven't put it together in a while. VT does have Miami on deck, a game that will decide the conference championship aspirations of both. Maybe they look past Duke a little and maybe Duke can pull it together.

Nebraska +194
Off bye...and off back-to-back ass kickings so not sure where Neb's heads are at right now. Purdue may care more about this game then them. Home night game, I think the staff can play up a SuperBowl angle to really get their kids fired up for this one. Going to have to weather the early surge. Purdue has looked very vulnerable on O the last several weeks. Playing Wisconsin will do that to you, but even vs Min and Rut this O they were -2 turnovers in both. Couldn't pass vs Rutgers, couldn't do much of anything til the second half vs Min. There are some things they can do well at times, but this doesn't appear to be a matchup that their O can dictate to a D what they want. On the other hand, this would seem to be a much better matchup for Neb O compared to facing OSU and Wisconsin last 2 games. I do fear turnovers because Neb is consistent at doing it at the worst possible times, like at the end of really nice drives or setting the opposing team up for pts. It feels sketchy, but also feels like a game Nebraska should win.

New Mexico St +189
Been a really good team to me this year. Even in the ats loses they were right there. Ark St won 41-22 last year, but what we have seen is that this NMSt team is playing everyone tougher than last year. I do think Ark St is the better team, for them though things have come pretty easy the last 3 games...GaSouthern, CoCarolina and ULL are just not going to challenge them much on O or D. NMSt has that ability. Also off a bye which they really needed having played 3 straight road games with alot of travel. So I think we see a better team than we saw from them last time out. I'd be shocked if their O doesn't keep this game competitive througout. The D is better and it is a tall order to contain this Ark St O, but I think they might be able to hang. I'd probably feel just a tad better with some more insurance on the spread and some better risk return on the ML. Maybe it gets bet up.
 
I have been less than impressed with Applewhite so far. Not feeling to confident in any Houston investments after watching him reel against Memphis.

FIU is an interesting one with the odds simply because Marshall is not a team that will blow them out so should be a tight game all around.

I just took EMU +7.5 and will be looking for ML when available most likely.
 
I know this is the wrong thread but I like you guys. You tolerate me. So spice up your dull Monday evening with this one....3, 4, 5, & 6-teamer RR!!

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PSU a definite possibility there VCavs....

Well I got thru the evening games and I did not find any more dogs with all three boxes checked although these few were really close:

New Mexico State
Texas Tech
Arizona State

I will go thru the schedule again tomorrow and hopefully have the final 1st Half ML plays ID'ed. Until then, happy partying gents!

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GT and TT worthy as long shots? Mayve UNC

Miami and OK just aren't winning their games easily. GT is too good on both sides of the ball with brant mitchell healthy to be dogged by so many. Just superficial thoughts...

Wil do a dog article btw so i'm thinking of what's worth looking into. Cal az state uva seem like must-haves. And then the three long-shots
 
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Let's talk about Tulane & Memphis....Memphis total defense ranks 119th, Tulane ranks 95th. Turnover margin Memphis is 10th and Tulane is 15th but there's other teams tied. Actual difference between the teams is only 1 turnover. QB's....I know Memphis has a good one. Can Tulane keep up for a half? Seems like they have 2 out of 3 boxes checked off and, at +10.5 dog, the 1st Half ML should be nice.

Does Tulane have a good quarterback?

Tulane is pretty solid, but I would suspect this to be a tough matchup for them defensively. The stats say Tulane pass D #1 AAC ypg and #2 compl %, but you have to figure they played Navy, Army and Tulsa who do not throw it much or well. Memphis should be ok doing what they do. The hope for Tulane is that they atleast make them earn it rather than having free receivers running around. That way maybe some pbus could result in a TO or two.

Vs Memphis D, would think that Tulane O has potential to do damage. Not as smooth as Navy option, but have a couple really good RBs. The QB? The pass yards were high last week because they were playing from behind, but the compl % sucked. I've kind of felt he hasn't been fully comfortable in the O yet, or the O isn't fitting him best yet. He should be a difference maker for them, that has a chance to materialize still.

Best case for Tulane is that Memphis doesn't come out sharp and a little complacent.
 
UNC is hard to endorse outright, but the canes are cursed in CH
The "U" hates playing at Chappel Hill.

They were nearly a 2TD underdog last time and lost bad in 2015, but won 2 of the last 3 at UNC (2013 27-23 -9.5 vs bad UNC team and 2011 30-24 both teams bad Canes +2.5).

If UNC would've showed something, anything last week maybe I could see something in that one. I mean, cover a 3TD line, possible. Win? Hard to put your money on that, but stuff happens.
 
Ok help me out here .... you know i like the game "flip the field" when talking about line value comparisons ... well, gt closed -3 -115 at home to wake forest this past saturday at bookmaker. This closing line would seem to indicate Wake Forest = Georgia Tech. Fast forward to this week and we have ville -3 at wake forest. This would seem to indicate that ville is 6-7 points better than Wake Forest, which would apparently mean that Ville is 6 or 7 points better than GT. Ya no way. I would like to know how anyone could take Wake on the road last week and not take them at home this week (other than bye preceding). I don't necessarily think there is line value with Wake because I think the closing line Saturday with GT was the silly line, not this one. But if you liked Wake Forest Saturday, you should love them here.

ML Dogs that have my attention

Wake Forest - It would be a shame for this Wake Forest team to not become bowl eligible. Their schedule is not very forgiving .. following this ville game, Wake Forest has to travel to notre dame, then travel to cuse and then host ncstate. That cuse game is now looking harder and what a terrible sandwich game that is too. After ncstate, wake closes out with Duke. Not saying they cannot beat ncstate but you are more than likely looking at cuse and duke to get bowl eligible if they drop this one.

I like when you play that game. Also like your guess the line game.

I would've could've liked WF when it was 6.5, but when it went down to 3/4 I saw you say you couldn't stay away from GT at that point and I didn't take Tech, but certainly didn't want to take WF at that point either. So same thing, I would like more pts in this one for WF to bite. Louisville off the FSU game? Could be a flat spot. We know that WF really played LV tight and tough last year before Ville just blew it open in the 4th qrt. So maybe that gives a veteran WF team some confidence and unfinished business mentality. Ville been very up and down this year. Got to think that WF O can move it on them.

How do you think Wake stacks up against Jackson?
 
Penn State

Haha. Yeah why not?

Honestly, I've said it, done it, but honestly I'm done with the "Penn St isn't good" stuff. Is Ohio St good? Last time they were in a similar favorite role in week 2 what happened?

I'm hearing all this revenge talk for Ohio St because of the loss last year. What about revenge from Penn St's side. They beat the sons a bitches, won the division, won the conference and were left home from a National Title shot only to see OSU go. Think they have something to prove here?
 
Hey guys just a random question, will this thread continue for NCAA basketball?

Hey, welcome aboard.

Anyone is free to start such a thread daily if need be. It is obviously a great tool.

I would be glad to start one for NCAA Bball. It is one of my fav sports to cap.
I play a lot and pay attention to a lot of Tennessee NCAA teams. Have a close friend that coaches in A-Sun so will have a little info to share on scouting
 
I would be glad to start one for NCAA Bball. It is one of my fav sports to cap.
I play a lot and pay attention to a lot of Tennessee NCAA teams. Have a close friend that coaches in A-Sun so will have a little info to share on scouting
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Arkansas checks off all three boxes. 1st Half ML plays so far....

Arkansas
Virginia
Wake Forest
Minnesota
Western Kentucky

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Is the Arkansas QB a senior. Back up has been playing last two weeks, and not too well.
Allen is a senior but you’re right! Kelly is in the box scores for the last 2 games and he is a freshman! Sorry I was looking at passing leaders and Allen still shows up for Arky. On another note, Patterson for Ole Miss is out for the year due to knee injury??
 
Arkansas checks off all three boxes. 1st Half ML plays so far....

Arkansas
Virginia
Wake Forest
Minnesota
Western Kentucky

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I hope Virginia's rush defense can stop allowing big plays. For the second week in the row it's an issue and it took us out of the game from the start
 
Ok guys I’ve gone thru it twice. The 1st Half Ml plays are below. I took Arky off because I made a mistake thinking Allen was still QB:

Virginia
Wake Forest
Minnesota
Western Kentucky

But I am still considering Texas Tech and New Mexico State. They are ohhh so close. TT ranks 98th in total D, Okie 52nd. Both QBs top 15 in efficiency but TT ranks 15 in turnover margin and Okie 84th. For the 1st half odds we are going to get I think this is worth a shot!!

NM State ranks 66th in total D, Arky State 90th. Problem is turnovers where Arky State outranks the Lobos 48 to 93 but there is really only 5 to’s that separate those 45 spots in the rankings. Again, with the odds we should get with NM State, I think they are worth a shot.

Lastly, I know this is a dog thread but these favs have all the 3 boxes checked:

Appy State
Miami FL
Kentucky
Stanford
USF
Troy

Thoughts on reverse engineering the D8 method and laying pts with these favs for 1st Half??
 
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