Week 9 Discussion Thread

[VirginiaCavs]

Oct 29 Thu 2020- NCAA Football Game

6:30 PM
103	South Alabama	+6½ -110
104	Georgia Southern	-6½ -110

9:00 PM
157	Colorado State	pk -110
158	Fresno State	pk -110

Oct 30 Fri 2020- NCAA Football Game

6:00 PM
105	Marshall	-22 -115
106	Florida International	+22 -105

6:00 PM
308911	SE Missouri State	+10 -110
308912	So Illinois	-10 -110

6:30 PM
131	Minnesota	-19½ -110
132	Maryland	+19½ -110

7:00 PM
107	East Carolina	+18½ -110
108	Tulsa	-18½ -110

8:45 PM
141	Hawaii	-2½ -105
142	Wyoming	+2½ -115

Oct 31 Sat 2020- NCAA Football Game

11:00 AM
109	Michigan State	+24½ -110
110	Michigan	-24½ -110

11:00 AM
111	Wake Forest	-10½ -110
112	Syracuse	+10½ -110

11:00 AM
115	UTSA	+6½ -105
116	Florida Atlantic	-6½ -115

11:00 AM
117	Kansas State	+3½ -115
118	West Virginia	-3½ -105

11:00 AM
119	Boston College	+32 -110
120	Clemson	-32 -110

11:00 AM
129	Coastal Carolina	-3 +100
130	Georgia State	+3 -120

11:00 AM
137	Memphis	+7 -115
138	Cincinnati	-7 -105

11:00 AM
139	Purdue	-4½ -120
140	Illinois	+4½ +100

11:00 AM
169	Temple	+3 -110
170	Tulane	-3 -110

11:00 AM
179	Iowa State	-28 -110
180	Kansas	+28 -110

11:00 AM
195	Georgia	-16 -110
196	Kentucky	+16 -110

1:00 PM
149	North Texas	-3 -115
150	UTEP	+3 -105

1:00 PM
177	Central Florida	-3 -120
178	Houston	+3 +100

2:00 PM
155	Rice	+3 -105
156	Southern Miss	-3 -115

2:00 PM
173	Troy	+4 -105
174	Arkansas State	-4 -115

2:30 PM
123	Notre Dame	-19 -110
124	Georgia Tech	+19 -110

2:30 PM
133	Indiana	-13 -110
134	Rutgers	+13 -110

2:30 PM
161	Northwestern	+3½ -120
162	Iowa	-3½ +100

2:30 PM
165	Wisconsin	-11 -110
166	Nebraska	+11 -110

2:30 PM
175	TCU	pk -110
176	Baylor	pk -110

2:30 PM
181	LSU	-1 -110
182	Auburn	+1 -110

2:30 PM
183	UAB	-9½ -110
184	Louisiana Tech	+9½ -110

3:00 PM
121	Virginia Tech	-3½ -105
122	Louisville	+3½ -115

3:00 PM
163	Texas	+3 -110
164	Oklahoma State	-3 -110

3:00 PM
185	Mississippi	-17½ -110
186	Vanderbilt	+17½ -110

3:00 PM
187	Appalachian State	-31 -115
188	UL Monroe	+31 -105

5:00 PM
151	Boise State	-9½ -110
152	Air Force	+9½ -110

6:00 PM
125	Charlotte	+10 -105
126	Duke	-10 -115

6:00 PM
147	San Jose State	-9½ -110
148	New Mexico	+9½ -110

6:00 PM
189	Mississippi State	+31½ -110
190	Alabama	-31½ -110

6:30 PM
135	Ohio State	-11 -110
136	Penn State	+11 -110

6:30 PM
159	Navy	+16 -110
160	SMU	-16 -110

6:30 PM
191	Arkansas	+12 -110
192	Texas A&M	-12 -110

6:30 PM
193	Missouri	+12½ -105
194	Florida	-12½ -115

7:00 PM
113	North Carolina	-7 -110
114	Virginia	+7 -110

7:00 PM
167	Oklahoma	-15 -110
168	Texas Tech	+15 -110

7:00 PM
171	UL Lafayette	-17 -115
172	Texas State	+17 -105

9:30 PM
143	San Diego State	-7½ -113
144	Utah State	+7½ -107

10:15 PM
145	Western Kentucky	+28½ -110
146	BYU	-28½ -110

10:30 PM
153	Nevada	-10 -105
154	UNLV	+10 -115

Nov 7 Sat 2020- NCAA Football Game

12:00 PM
1701	Arizona	+14 -110
1702	Utah	-14 -110

12:00 PM
1703	Stanford	+9 -115
1704	Oregon	-9 -105

12:00 PM
1705	Washington State	-3 -110
1706	Oregon State	+3 -110

12:00 PM
1707	Washington	-4 +115
1708	California	+4 -135

12:00 PM
1709	Arizona State	+9 -130
1710	USC	-9 +110

12:00 PM
1711	UCLA	-6 -110
1712	Colorado	+6 -110

 

[s--k]

 

[s--k]

I like Charlotte. Pretty good Offense. Do worry about how their D might do.

 

[s--k]

Wow, Fremont Cannon is early!

 

[s--k]

I didn't totally hate what I saw out of Nebraska yesterday. Lots of bad beat downs by Wisconsin though in that series

 

[s--k]

probably not an ideal time for Arkansas to have a bye, I generally don't like momentum being stopped by bye weeks. Even with that, have to believe in their D vs aTm. Not sure I trust their O though

 

[s--k]

Not surprised App State went up from 28 to 31

 

[s--k]

Will Kentucky score on Georgia?

 

[Ryno14]

Will Kentucky score on Georgia?

No

 

[CPA-hole]

IU and Rutgers just got alot more interesting. See how both avoid a let down.

 

[s--k]

I feel like that Hawaii favorite spot in Laramie is a little over reaction. Wyoming D is still stout and QB Chambers being out shouldn't matter. I do think this Hawaii team looks pretty darn good. Would loved for them to be getting a few pts here, like if WYO had won and UH didn't win as big as they did. Not sure which side I'd want to back at the moment.

 

[CPA-hole]

SJSU was a nice little cash cow for me last year and looked great vs the fly boys. I'll gladly lay the 9.5 if that game gets played. Thats highly doubtful however.

 

[s--k]

IU and Rutgers just got alot more interesting. See how both avoid a let down.

I think I would trust Rutgers more. Indiana, although I was on them and needed them, they did what they had to do when it mattered most, but I was not impressed with most of their game. I should acknowledge the strength of opponent, it's going to be hard vs Penn State and not as hard vs Rutgers.

Something that happens often is teams that don't usually have any success and they taste it and they buy in to a new staff and they see the results, I think Rutgers can shake off snapping the losing streak a little easier than IU might be able to shake off what they just did.

 

[s--k]

SJSU was a nice little cash cow for me last year and looked great vs the fly boys. I'll gladly lay the 9.5 if that game gets played. Thats highly doubtful however.

Agreed

 

[s--k]

Oh, VC has PAC12 lines. It's too early for me to think about those.

 

[s--k]

Lots of good ones this week.

 

[CPA-hole]

Let down spot for Wake? I'm intrigued with 10.5 from Syracuse.

 

[Big daddy naught]

Rutgers catching 13 seems nice

 

[Frank Costanza]

Gundy has had a ton of success vs. Texas. He pulls out all stops as he doesn't like them. Okie State the (much) better team at home. Unless they beat themselves they cover the 3 without issue.

 

[Ryno14]

Gundy has had a ton of success vs. Texas. He pulls out all stops as he doesn't like them. Okie State the (much) better team at home. Unless they beat themselves they cover the 3 without issue.

That line seemed off to me. Expected higher

 

[twinkie13]

Rutgers catching 13 seems nice

1st one that caught my eye, but

 

[Frank Costanza]

That line seemed off to me. Expected higher

Smells to high hell.

 

[Big daddy naught]

1st one that caught my eye, but

Seems too easy

 

[CPA-hole]

Sounds like SJSU/UNM game will be played in San Jose and not Albuquerque. Trying to confirm.

 

[Ryno14]

WVU/aTm/Ohio State ML parlay +120 for me so far

 

[spooks]

Saw the highlights of UNLV/SDSU and Rebels looked awful.

Not sure if Arroyo have settled on which QB to play, but that offense is atrocious. Rebels are also playing in the new Vegas stadium, so there's some motivation.

Also, how does W. Kentucky score?

 

[Frank Costanza]

I'm buying into Cincy and love them at home vs. Memphis. Especially like the revenge angle - lost not once, but twice, last year in tight games at Memphis.

Big fan of Fickell's.

 

[twinkie13]

Saw the highlights of UNLV/SDSU and Rebels looked awful.

Not sure if Arroyo have settled on which QB to play, but that offense is atrocious. Rebels are also playing in the new Vegas stadium, so there's some motivation.

Also, how does W. Kentucky score?

Did Rogers start at QB? How he look for UNLV?

 

[carolinablue]

Saw the highlights of UNLV/SDSU and Rebels looked awful.

Not sure if Arroyo have settled on which QB to play, but that offense is atrocious. Rebels are also playing in the new Vegas stadium, so there's some motivation.

Also, how does W. Kentucky score?

I will be disappointed if SDSU doesn't pile up at least 300 yards on the ground in this one. Kinda surprised this line hasn't gone up closer to 10.

 

[spooks]

Did Rogers start at QB? How he look for UNLV?

It was a SS in the 1st half, both Rogers, Oblade and Gilliam took snaps, but Gilliam played for the most part. It was a combination of Rebels O ineptitude to move the chains against SDSU D.

I will be disappointed if SDSU doesn't pile up at least 300 yards on the ground in this one. Kinda surprised this line hasn't gone up closer to 10.

Not sure about Utah St. D, but UNLV defense can make anyone look good!

 

[s--k]

I would proceed with caution on San Diego State. What we saw in the first half last week is who they should be. What we saw in the second half last week was what they were last year. It bothered me they didn't put together a strong 4 quarter game when they absolutely should've hammered that opponent.

UNLV 1st H vs 2nd H last week was like night and day. Same goes for Nevada.....if we get the 2nd H UNLV and 2nd H Nevada I would be all over Rebels. If we get 1st H UNLV and 1st H Nevada, I'd be all over Pack. Good luck to us to guess what we actually get. Not rushing to lay bunch of points here.

 

[Johnnyonthespot]

College football SP+ rankings after Week 8

 

[Capaholic]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321970703139278851

 

[twinkie13]

Whoa

 

[spottie2935]

No freakin way Indy should be top 20 they lose soon if not this week

 

[spottie2935]

okay what happens to Notre Dame this week? Are they looking ahead big time now? Lay an egg after a blowout and they are on the road laying 3 tds? I already posted in my thread im on GT now they could lay an egg

 

[B.A.R.]

I know many will be devastated...lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321984081979199490

 

[B.A.R.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322236587976130561

 

[carolinablue]

I would proceed with caution on San Diego State. What we saw in the first half last week is who they should be. What we saw in the second half last week was what they were last year. It bothered me they didn't put together a strong 4 quarter game when they absolutely should've hammered that opponent.

UNLV 1st H vs 2nd H last week was like night and day. Same goes for Nevada.....if we get the 2nd H UNLV and 2nd H Nevada I would be all over Rebels. If we get 1st H UNLV and 1st H Nevada, I'd be all over Pack. Good luck to us to guess what we actually get. Not rushing to lay bunch of points here.

Totally makes sense...When the lines came out, I actually had more faith in SDSU at 7 than Nevada at 10 as weird things happen in that Nevada v UNLV rivalry sometimes, so figured I would take my chances with a solid running team pounding the ball all night vs a Nevada team that should win by 20, but could just as easily lose by 20, as I just can't ever seem to figure that team out for whatever reason. Best of luck this weekend!

 

[carolinablue]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322236587976130561

Looks like the line is starting to move a bit as it is now up to 3.5 115 vs 2.5 115 earlier this morning. If Grayson is 100%, I think Coastal wins by 10+, but even if he doesn't start, I still like Coastal to cover as I locked in my play Sunday on the assumption that he wouldn't be at 100%, as I think Coastal wins either way, but obviously I like my chances even more with Grayson at the helm.

 

[2daBank]

I see a lot of Wyoming love around, I like that team and think they be fine with Levi Williams at qb but man the Wolfpack air raid type offense really carved them up. They did improve in 2nd half but Hawaii a scary team when I just watched wyo give up 400+ passing yards to a team I don’t think runs this offense as well as Hawaii.

 

[s--k]

Totally makes sense...When the lines came out, I actually had more faith in SDSU at 7 than Nevada at 10 as weird things happen in that Nevada v UNLV rivalry sometimes, so figured I would take my chances with a solid running team pounding the ball all night vs a Nevada team that should win by 20, but could just as easily lose by 20, as I just can't ever seem to figure that team out for whatever reason. Best of luck this weekend!

"Utah State head coach Gary Andersen admitted as much to reporters after the Boise State game, saying, “We lost the battle on both sides of the line of scrimmage miserably most of the evening, right?”"

That is interesting in the fact that Boise State is completely rebuilding it's DL and nearly doing the same on their OL. Vs a Utah State OL that was green and miserable last year but last year's struggles were supposed to translate to a more competent unit this year, even labeled perhaps a team strength. That didn't happen. And the USU DL remains a question as well.

San Diego State should have a decided advantage in the trenches even more so than Boise did.

I don't see any redeeming qualities in this Utah State team after one game. Boise let them back in the game...the same way that SD St let UNLV get close to getting back in the game last week.

I really want to like San Diego State here, I just don't know if I can trust them. The second half of last week showed the sometimes floundering offense that the 2019 version fielded. UNLV did play with some heart in the 2nd H, but that's not it. Mabye SD St had dominated so bad in the 1st H they just came out and didn't think they had to keep trying hard bringing it.

This game just has a bit of a weird feel to it. What is the real San Diego State? Is Utah State that bad?

 

[s--k]

I see a lot of Wyoming love around, I like that team and think they be fine with Levi Williams at qb but man the Wolfpack air raid type offense really carved them up. They did improve in 2nd half but Hawaii a scary team when I just watched wyo give up 400+ passing yards to a team I don’t think runs this offense as well as Hawaii.

I'm not sure Hawaii runs that offense any more though. Hawaii ran QB power, QB zone read, wildcat RB at QB....I think Hawaii is going to be very hard to gameplan for this year, atleast early in the season. It is safe to say that Fresno was completely caught off guard. So that tape is out there, then does UH switch back to more of the pass happy gameplan or some blending of both? I think they have the pieces to pretty much do whatever they want. And I think the Hawaii D is pretty capable.

I actually like the under tonight. I think Wyoming can build on their defensive performance in the second half last week because under Bohl they have always been a tough defensive team. One problem is they are without a lot of their DL depth due to opt-outs, yet in the second half vs Nevada the Wyoming DL looked great. I heard somebody on the radio today say that Sean Chambers was one of the MWC's best QBs which I strongly disagreed with. Wyoming in fact should be better with Levi Williams at QB as he at least possess the ability of throwing completed passes. Even then, the Wyoming offense isn't going to light up the scoreboard.

With the line basically a pick'em going back and forth between who is favored, I can't decide who I think wins this game. But I think I am going to be on both defenses playing strong and that Hawaii will continue to tilt more towards the run game we saw last week and Wyoming should matchup well vs that.

 

[s--k]

Hawaii is in a horrible travel situation. I will have to read, but I doubt they stayed on the mainland like they have sometimes done. Fly home Saturday night then fly back in for a Friday night game makes it tough on the body with all those miles sitting on an airplane back-and-forth.

 

[s--k]

Hawaii did not fly back home after Fresno. They went to Denver which was great move by them. Helps get acclimated with elevation and avoid wasting long travel days. They did lose one of their outdoor practice days due to snow in Denver.

 

[s--k]

Here is Todd Graham video talking about the team from Wednesday if you want to watch/listen:

 

[Grovehard]

What's up with the move in the WVU/KSU game?

 

[s--k]

Not sure, other than I've heard a lot of people on WVU today.

 

[s--k]

Reading from the Gold Sheet "Special Ticker"

"Baylor OL was without two starters Saturday at Texas as C Newman-Johnson and LT Galvin were both out for undisclosed reasons. Baylor ran for just 64 yards, after gaining only 27 yards at West Virginia. QB Brewer has been sacked 7x times in the last 2 games."

Anyone know an update here for the TCU game?

 

[s--k]

Temple QB Russo update?