Week 8 NFL Discussion

I just want to know why it was torture? The missed kicks were bad, of course, but is the insinuation that games have to be high scoring to not be torturous? If that's what you're saying, you're just as much of the problem as the NFL itself. Fantasy football has completely ruined people's expectations for sports.

I agree the NFL has become a shittier product, but that's due to their horrid officiating, playing games too often (Thu games), rule changes to make it as offense friendly as they can, rule changes that people still don't understand (catch rule), their public image issues with discipline (or lack thereof), trying to over regulate what happens on the field with celebrations, the horrid officiating, the double speak in the public ALL the time (gambling vs. fantasy football), their horrid officiating, etc, etc.
Spot on here Lar
 
Haven't seen any numbers for tomorrow yet but I will lay out what I would bet having a pretty good idea what the numbers will roughly be. My book has all but eliminated me from betting props unfortunately. The dummies cut my max from around 2k to barely over 100 now, and I had back to back bad weeks right after they did so...lucky me.

Anyways, here what I will be betting when the numbers come out and would only shy away if the juice is obscene. In parathensis Ill put the max rec/yards ill play up to since I dont have numbers yet and wont have time to check in here in the morning

Hopkins - rec, yards, td (6,92)

Sanu - rec, yards (3.5, 50)

j brown - yards (55)

graham - yardage and td (75)

ertz - yardage and reception (3.5, 45)
 
Surprised by the line and all the love for Cincy. They have wins over Clev, Mia and NYJ. They have looked horrible away from home. Norman back for Wash is huge in terms of limiting AJ. I would make the game a pick or Was -1. Just hate betting these travel games.
 
Somebody please talk me off the Browns...if you wish. Isn't this the week for their victory?
 
Bones - do not bet the Browns. Take a look at the jets schedule. It has been just brutal. And they have suffered some key injuries, especially on DL and with WR. Fitz came back last week after the benching and looked pretty good. Browns have given up at least 25 pts in every game this year. Jets will get at least 25 today. Jets are not as bad as their record, they are getting healthy, and they will do enough to win. Clev will win 1 or 2 games this season, but this will not be one of them.
 
Bones - do not bet the Browns. Take a look at the jets schedule. It has been just brutal. And they have suffered some key injuries, especially on DL and with WR. Fitz came back last week after the benching and looked pretty good. Browns have given up at least 25 pts in every game this year. Jets will get at least 25 today. Jets are not as bad as their record, they are getting healthy, and they will do enough to win. Clev will win 1 or 2 games this season, but this will not be one of them.

Thx...that is enuf for me...was not convicted, just 'felt it' so I'm done
 
Bones - do not bet the Browns. Take a look at the jets schedule. It has been just brutal. And they have suffered some key injuries, especially on DL and with WR. Fitz came back last week after the benching and looked pretty good. Browns have given up at least 25 pts in every game this year. Jets will get at least 25 today. Jets are not as bad as their record, they are getting healthy, and they will do enough to win. Clev will win 1 or 2 games this season, but this will not be one of them.
I tend to agree and I know it's not the smartest play but I think I'm taking them in survivor today.
 
Yeah, I was thinking the smart thing to do is keep him out. And why I'm hesitant to play the Texans. If they had Miller I'd feel a lot better about what i think is a good play
 
I don't trust Osweiler, I see some Texans love but Brock has been pretty bad this year sans that miracle comeback against Indy.
 
Yeah, I was thinking the smart thing to do is keep him out. And why I'm hesitant to play the Texans. If they had Miller I'd feel a lot better about what i think is a good play
Fuller and Hopkins should feast vs Det secondary
 
Hey if you're thinking of backing Oakland based on the fact they didn't travel, just remember when the Cardinals stayed on the east coast last season between weeks 5/6 @Detroit and @Pittsburgh. They ended up losing SU as 5-point favorites in that second game.
 
I think the colts win. The kc defense hasn't been anything special

I think I'm breaking all rules and going with them in one survivor league
 
Majority of spread tickets is on the road team for all seven NFL games starting at 1 pm ET: sportsinsights.com/free
 
Hey if yall are banking on the Belichick same-season revenge angle, this was written back on Jan 21: "Patriots Coach Bill Belichick is 12-4 ATS in same-season revenge games." And after that they're now 12-5 ATS in same-season revenge games.

Just posting because I saw an 18-3 ATS in that situation posted for the Pats, which is not correct.
 
NE005: The Patriots are 12-0 ATS vs a divisional opponent they lost to earlier in the season.
11-1-0 (16.50, 91.7%)
12-0-0 (12.92, 100.0%) avg line: -3.6
7-5-0 (6.33, 58.3%) avg total: 41.0

<tbody>
[TH="align: center"]SU:[/TH]

[TH="bgcolor: F8F8F8, colspan: 4, align: center"]Teaser Records[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]ATS:[/TH]

[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +6: 12-0-0 (100.0%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -6: 8-4-0 (66.7%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +10: 12-0-0 (100.0%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -10: 6-6-0 (50.0%) [/TD]

[TH="align: center"]O/U:[/TH]

[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +6: 5-7-0 (41.7%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -6: 10-2-0 (83.3%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] +10: 5-7-0 (41.7%) [/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: F8F8F8"] -10: 11-1-0 (91.7%) [/TD]

</tbody>
31.9123.333.821.2250.61.06.010.07.18.331.9
25.2110.536.720.9221.22.24.55.91.73.315.4

<tbody>
[TH="align: center"][/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Rushes[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Rush Yds[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Passes[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Comp[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Pass Yds[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]TOs[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Q1[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Q2[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Q3[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Q4[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]Final[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]Team[/TH]

[TH="align: center"]Opp[/TH]

</tbody>
[TABLE="class: dataTable no-footer"]
<caption></caption><thead>[TR]
[TH="class: sorting_asc, colspan: 1, align: center"]Date[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Link[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Day[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Week[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Season[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Team[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Opp[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Site[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Q1[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Q2[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Q3[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Q4[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Final[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Line[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]Total[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]SUm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]ATSm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]OUm[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]DPS[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]DPA[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]SUr[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]ATSr[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]OUr[/TH]
[TH="class: sorting, colspan: 1, align: center"]ot[/TH]
[/TR]
</thead><tbody>[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: F2F2F2"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Dec 17, 2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Bills[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]away[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]7-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]13-10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]5.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]37.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]8.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-14.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-2.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-11.2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dec 24, 2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]2000[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dolphins[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]3-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0-10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]24-27[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]4.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]37.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]1.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]6.2[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: F2F2F2"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Dec 02, 2001[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]2001[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Jets[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]away[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]14-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]17-16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]39.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]5.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-6.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-0.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-5.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dec 22, 2001[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Saturday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]2001[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dolphins[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]20-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0-10[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]20-13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-3.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]37.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-4.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-4.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: F2F2F2"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Dec 29, 2002[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]2002[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Dolphins[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]10-14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]11-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]27-24[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]37.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]4.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]13.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]8.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]4.8[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dec 27, 2003[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Saturday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]2003[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Bills[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]3-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]31-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-9.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]33.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]21.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-2.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]9.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-12.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: F2F2F2"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Jan 07, 2007[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]2006[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Jets[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]7-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]10-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]6-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]14-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]37-16[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-9.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]39.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]11.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]13.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]12.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]1.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Nov 23, 2008[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]2008[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dolphins[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]away[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]3-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]17-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]48-28[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-1.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]42.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]18.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]33.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]26.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]O[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd, bgcolor: F2F2F2"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Nov 22, 2009[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Sunday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]2009[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]Jets[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]14-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]10-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0-7[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]7-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]31-14[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-10.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]45.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]6.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-0.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]3.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]-3.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]U[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: f2f2f2, align: center"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: sorting_1, bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Dec 06, 2010[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Monday[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]2010[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Patriots[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]Jets[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]home[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]17-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]7-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]14-0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]45-3[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-3.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]44.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]42[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]38.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]3.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]21.0[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]-17.5[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="bgcolor: ffffff, align: center"]O[/TD]
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Hey if yall are banking on the Belichick same-season revenge angle, this was written back on Jan 21: "Patriots Coach Bill Belichick is 12-4 ATS in same-season revenge games." And after that they're now 12-5 ATS in same-season revenge games.

Just posting because I saw an 18-3 ATS in that situation posted for the Pats, which is not correct.
My bad
This division, revenge one is nice
 
Betting against the Patriots in these situations is crazy as they thrive in the "square" spot.

But I'm interested to see how the Bills defense responds to getting back Dareus. It could turn into elite level as they've improved a lot last few weeks.
 
Pats have won 23 of last 26 (and one of those losses was the final game of a season where the Pats rested everyone)

Belichick 28-6 vs Bills
Rex 6-11 vs Patriots
 
I think those numbers for Pats revenge get even better during regular season. And look at the margin of victory in the L7 games in that spot: 31,21,20,17,42,28,28

I think if it was a home game it'd be a no-doubter. But I'll agree that's still really strong. I saw -9 +155 and thought about it for a minute.
 
Looks like some smart money coming in on the Bucs...

Raiders performance vs. Jax looks pretty pathetic now considering they were very underwhelming for most of it.

Long trip back from Bucs.
 
I have a feeling NO gives SEA all they can handle today. SEA defense was worn down to nothing by the end of Monday's game, now they have to travel across the country and missing Bennett and Chancellor? SEA should put up points.
 
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I have a feeling NO gives SEA all they can handle today. SEA defense was worn down to nothing by the end of Monday's game, now they have to travel across the country and missing Bennett and Chancellor? SEA should put up points.
Seattle on the road, early morning for PTZ and missing two keys on defense. I'm rolling the dice on NO today.
 
forget about indy

taking Zona +2.5 as my only side for the early games

looking at some props as well
 
I'm talking survivor. I have slim pickings with who I can take without getting into road teams.


i just decided to take tampa instead of indy

taking the saints in survivor with that defense is silly imo

wilson can still play against shit defenses
 
i just decided to take tampa instead of indy

taking the saints in survivor with that defense is silly imo

wilson can still play against shit defenses

Understood, but there aren't many good matchups this week. I have Dal and Minny available but neither one of those give me much confidence either.
 
you say inflated, i say strong

Not strong but they should win, can't go against Beliache in a div game.

This is not a great Pats team especially defensively, solid but a Rivers or Big Ben will tear their shit up in the playoffs.
 
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