Week 5 What Have We Learned

Navy. Woof. Navy's starting QB didn't play, but Air Force had guys switching from offense to defense to play because of all the defections from the team. Will be interesting to see what AF does in the MW this year with the uncertainty some of the teams there are facing.

Speaking of the MW, Boise at Wyoming on DEC. 12th? Mid December in Laramie. Sign me the hell up.

Sam Pittman wasn't the sexist name of hires, but this sure seems like a totally different attitude in Fayetteville. Certainly held their own for most of that Georgia game and backed it up with a win over Missy St. Probably a little lucky, Kylin Hill going out early didn't help Leach's cause, but Arky might be able to a win a few more this year.

Georgia just flat out smacked Auburn around. Night and day the difference in the o-line from last week to this week. The defense is flat out nasty. Kind of a tricky spot for them, however, next week vs Tennessee, with Bama on deck.
 
Florida led 38-14 with 4min left in the 3rd Q. From there SC would score the final 10 points, convert 5-for-6 4th down conversions (!) on their final 3 possessions owning about a 15 to 4 minute time of possession edge (SC also made an amazing one handed INT scoop to get the ball back on one of UF's final possessions). SC had 160 of their yards on the final 3 drives because of that UF only had a narrow 348-329 TY edge. UF D credited with 4 sacks and 9 additional QBH and 9 PBUs.
 
East Carolina jumped out 7-0 with a pick-six on the first play of the game, but would then trail 35-10 HT. 35 1st H pts were the most Georgia State program half scoring record. Amazingly, ECU did not score a single offensive TD! The Pirate TDs were the pick-six, a fake FG and a blk'd punt return.
 
After Missouri QB Robinson struggled on his first two drives, Tigers went to backup Bazelak. Vols went 6 of 13 3rd down and 4-for-4 on 4th down (twice on opening drive leading to a 7-0 lead). TY in the 1st Q were 167 to 13! After Vols jumped out 14-0 and with Bazelak at QB, Mizzou did find some life but had to kick a FG after having a 1st down at the T14 and on their next drive were inside the Tenn 30 but two negative plays forced a 50y FG...14-6. 21-6 HT with Vols having a 283-144 TY edge. Vols made it 28-6 out of the locker room. With it 28-12 MU had a chance at getting back under the spread, but a first down INT at the T17 early 4th Q ended any hope while Vols would tack on one more. Long story short, Tennessee O knows who it is and how to go about what they want to do, Missouri is going through their Drinkwitz offensive learning curve and QB inconsistency.
 
Arizona LB transfer Tony Fields continues to pay dividends for WVU, leading them in tackles for the third straight game (10 tkl, sack, 2qbh, pbu vs Baylor).

Both Baylor and WVU were penalized 12x, it was the second week in a row that WVU racked up over 100y in penalties. Mountaineers definitely made it harder on themselves than it needed to be. In the first half Baylor O was largely ineffective, but thanks to WVU turnovers on 3 of 4 possessions at one point, the BU O was set up on short fields, resulting in a total of three missed 1st H FGs (one blk'd) and one TD to tie the game at 7-7. BU's TD drive was kept alive by a D PI call away from the play that negated a WVU D INT. With WV leading 14-7 in the 4th, WVU had two players collide on a punt return resulting in a muff again setting up BU on a short field but a strong Mountaineer goal line stand kept the game 14-7. Late in the game a WVU unsportsmanlike conduct penalty after a 3rd and 10 incompletion kept a BU drive alive and Bears went on to tie 14-14 with just over 1 minute left. In OT WVU choose to go for a 4th and 1 to keep their possession alive rather than kicking FG and would eventually score TD...21-14. BU scored TD on first play of their possession to force double OT. Then BU had a ball INT'd in the EZ on their first play allowing WVU to pound it down and into the EZ for the 27-21 win. WVU finished with a 345-256 TY edge (4.3-3.6 ypp edge). WVU D got 6 sacks (and 11 TFL). Again, Baylor was 0-3 on FG attempts. WVU lost 4 turnovers, BU lost 2.
 
Coastal Carolina not only dominated Arkansas State on the scoreboard, 52-23, The Chanticleers owned a 41:21 to 18:39 TOP edge! 52 pts marks Coastal's most points scored in a Sun Belt game.
 
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Florida led 38-14 with 4min left in the 3rd Q. From there SC would score the final 10 points, convert 5-for-6 4th down conversions (!) on their final 3 possessions owning about a 15 to 4 minute time of possession edge (SC also made an amazing one handed INT scoop to get the ball back on one of UF's final possessions). SC had 160 of their yards on the final 3 drives because of that UF only had a narrow 348-329 TY edge. UF D credited with 4 sacks and 9 additional QBH and 9 PBUs.
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I also have to mention that South Carolina went on a 7+ minute drive down 2 TDs to basically end the game, which included running the ball 3 straight plays of which one was where they hiked the ball with 1 on the play clock. Just abysmal coaching/time mgmt.
 
Pitt found themselves in a 7-17 hole vs NC State before eventually taking a 23-17 lead. But Panthers couldn't hold that lead or their later 29-24 lead.

After back-to-back 7 sacks games vs Cuse and LV, Pitt D only got 2 vs State. NC State's OL ability to protect and the size and physical nature of NCSt recivers led to a career day for Pack QB Devin Leary (336 yards). Pitt was also penalized 13x, most on defense that directly gave NCSt 8 first downs.

Key moment was Pitt being SOD from the 1 yard line, 3 runs stuffed and a throw away pass due to nobody being open.

Pitt dropped a 2pt conversion on their late game go-ahead TD leaving Pitt only up by 5 proved ominous as NCSt went on to score TD and win by 1 in the final seconds of the game (included a 4th-and-9 conversion).
 
cubsker said:
I also have to mention that South Carolina went on a 7+ minute drive down 2 TDs to basically end the game, which included running the ball 3 straight plays of which one was where they hiked the ball with 1 on the play clock. Just abysmal coaching/time mgmt.
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He’s done is Scary. I’d take him as a coordinator any day of the week tho
 
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Florida led 38-14 with 4min left in the 3rd Q. From there SC would score the final 10 points, convert 5-for-6 4th down conversions (!) on their final 3 possessions owning about a 15 to 4 minute time of possession edge (SC also made an amazing one handed INT scoop to get the ball back on one of UF's final possessions). SC had 160 of their yards on the final 3 drives because of that UF only had a narrow 348-329 TY edge. UF D credited with 4 sacks and 9 additional QBH and 9 PBUs.
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Really something fishy about this game with all the money coming in and driving Florida from -17 to -14 1/2 and Florida giving up a big lead. I know i will be watching Florida games closely this season. Muschamp's team showed no sense of urgency to win and took its sweet time in trying to come back from 14 down.
 
TCU and Texas combined for 26 penalties for 201 yards! One key penalty was an illegal man downfield on a big pass play that would've had Texas at the TCU 11, instead Texas had to punt that drive. Another was a TCU offside that changed Texas' mind from a short FG attempt to going for a 4th-and-2 which they got and soon had a TD.

Ehlinger had a really really bad game. Sometimes his receivers didn't help him out, but he was off the mark often, I believe he started the game like 5 of 16 passing, finishing 17 of 36 for 236y 4 TD 1 INT w/ 49y rushing. Compared to Duggan's 20-30-231-0-0 w/ 79y rushing & 2TD.

TCU outgained them 457 to 388. Some short TCU FGs in the RZ allowed Texas to comeback from a 9 point deficit and take a short lived lead before TCU went back up 33-29. Then we all know that Ingram fumbled at the 1 yard line the next play after he had a long catch and run with just 2:32 left. TCU took intentional safety to kill the final seconds on 4th down which may've had some over/under implications for the 33-31 final.
 
If any bettor in the country committed suicide it's probably because of Patterson and TCU.

Last week TCU (+2x) scored at the gun to pull within 3 and replay showed there was probably one second left if TCU wanted to challenge it. Kick the PAT and they cover. The ref asked Patterson if he wanted to kick the PAT, but explained that with only one second left the game would be over even if they recovered the onsides kick. Patterson waved it off, didn't bother to try the PAT, TCU failed to cover.

Against Texas they were one point under on the total with 8 seconds left and had the ball in their own territory. He chose to take a safety instead of punt or just have Duggan throw the ball a mile into the air. Duggan ran back and through the end zone, gave up two, and the total went over as the clock expired

Imagine being a guy who was on the wrong end of both plays.

I was on the wrong end last week, right end this week, but both endings were pure luck, decided on a coach's whim.
 
UAB outgained UTSA 409 to 280 in their 21-13 win. UAB led 21-6 HT with a 268-155 TY edge. Teams struggled on 3rd down combining for just 6-of-24. UAB lost 4 turnovers and missed a FG. UTSA did convert one of the TOs into a short field TD. UAB also had a goal line stop on a UTSA after another one of their turnovers.

UTSA's QB Atkins was injured on his first throw of the game (Atkins is actually their #2 QB because HArris got hurt last week). UTSA essentially played their #3 and #4 QBs the rest of the game who combined for just 9-24-90-0-1. If not for the turnovers this game would've been a blowout.
 
TahoeLegend said:
If any bettor in the country committed suicide it's probably because of Patterson and TCU.

Last week TCU (+2x) scored at the gun to pull within 3 and replay showed there was probably one second left if TCU wanted to challenge it. Kick the PAT and they cover. The ref asked Patterson if he wanted to kick the PAT, but explained that with only one second left the game would be over even if they recovered the onsides kick. Patterson waved it off, didn't bother to try the PAT, TCU failed to cover.

Against Texas they were one point under on the total with 8 seconds left and had the ball in their own territory. He chose to take a safety instead of punt or just have Duggan throw the ball a mile into the air. Duggan ran back and through the end zone, gave up two, and the total went over as the clock expired

Imagine being a guy who was on the wrong end of both plays.

I was on the wrong end last week, right end this week, but both endings were pure luck, decided on a coach's whim.
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Last week I got very lucky having TCU +3.5 so it didn't matter to me, but if I was Patterson I still would've kicked the xpt just to get the kicker a rep, or even go for two just to work out a play and execute it. But I get why he didn't do it. At that point, he was probably like, what's the point this game is over. The fact TCU even scored that TD on 4th down as time expired (or almost expired) was pretty damn lucky.
 
BYU has the best QB in college football, at least based on what has happened so far. He throws a beautiful pass, laser guided, on a line, 40 yards away, right on the numbers, and does it over and over. And BYU has big receivers--they all look at least 6-4--who catch anything that comes their way.

They haven't played the strongest schedule, but they are blowing everyone they play off the field and the BYU coach never takes his foot off the pedal and keeps trying to score more.
 
Liberty started Josh Furguson at QB (first start) and only passed for 12-21-64y but with passing 3 TDs! I am unsure why Mallik Willis DNP. Liberty only led 7-0 HT (missed FG) and did lead 28-0 before North Alabama got a 3p 12y TD "drive" late 4th Q following an INT to make it 28-7 F.
 
CPA-hole said:
Sam Pittman wasn't the sexist name of hires, but this sure seems like a totally different attitude in Fayetteville.
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I agree. That is a VERY well coached team. The most impressive have-not team I've seen this year and by a wide margin.

They'd win the Big 12 if they were in that conference, but they may get beat down playing the meat grinder schedule the SEC gave them. They'll give anyone in the SEC a tussle, especially at home as long as they don't have too many injuries

I give Pittman coach of the year honors so far.
 
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Only two games into the conference schedule and Oklahoma State is the only unbeaten team left in the Big 12 and looks like they have the best defense in the conference. Now the freshman kid gives them the best QB depth in the conference and they already had the best WRs and RBs.

If they can patch together an adequate O-Line they could win the Big 12.
 
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Army led 23-0 and 31-3 early 3rd Q. Abilene did make it 41-23 before Army scored 2 more TDs in the 55-23 F. Army did give up 45 and 61 yard TD passes (Abilene QB is Iowa transfer). Earlier an Abilene player took a reverse and appeared on his way to a 64 TD run, but he was caught from behind while prematurely celebrating and Abilene only got a FG out of it (caught by McDuffie, Army's fastest defender). Abilene went for 4th down 3x in the 1st Q only converting 1 of them. Abilene had a 3y punt at one point and Army recovered an onside kick. Army QB Anderson was knocked out of the game with a likely concussion.
 
TahoeLegend said:
BYU has the best QB in college football, at least based on what has happened so far. He throws a beautiful pass, laser guided, on a line, 40 yards away, right on the numbers, and does it over and over. And BYU has big receivers--they all look at least 6-4--who catch anything that comes their way.

They haven't played the strongest schedule, but they are blowing everyone they play off the field and the BYU coach never takes his foot off the pedal and keeps trying to score more.
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Disagree on BYU coach not taking foot of pedal......

2 weeks straight where they stopped scoring in the 4th with the over on the line.......can’t blame coach I think since they have backups playing in the 4th quarter.....
 
Both USF and Cincinnati opened the game with 2 straight turnovers apiece among the first 11 snaps of the game! The teams combined for 6 in the 1st H and 9 turnovers for the game! Cincinnati would've gone up 14-0, but a USF player wrestled the ball away in the EZ for an INT. UC only outgained them 332-291, UC's three 4th Q possessions only netted 30 yards as they just tried to kill the clock for what seemed like the entire quarter to get the game over with. Both teams missed FGs and USF was SOD twice in UC territory.
 
Once again the outcome of a game was changed by a moron WR or RB trying to stretch the ball out over the goal line while surrounded by the defense and turning it over.

Texas has a first and goal on the TCU one with only a minute or two left and on the first play the Texas RB held the ball out only inches from the goal line when he was in the grip of a couple of tacklers with another three or four surrounding him and lost it

I will never understand why coaches keep allowing this lunacy. If it's fourth down, okay, go ahead, you've got nothing to lose. but on first down, it's lunacy
 
BC QB Jurkovec passed 56 times, 1 short of team record and his 37 completions were tied for second team history! He led BC to a FG at the end of the 1st H and led them to a potential game-tying TD drive at the end of the game, but then threw an INT on the 2pt play (ret'd for UNC 2pts). Looks like BC's OL is struggling here and there (they did in game 1 vs Duke also), but Jurkovec has shown the ability to get out of trouble and make plays. They targeted TE Hunter Long 17x! Caught 9 for 96y. BC's O no longer evolves around the run game and seems to want smaller backs, bruising RB David Bailey did catch his first TD pass. It appears BC has abandoned the run at times (only 11 attempts other than Jurkovec attempts). UNC's top RBs on the other hand combined for 178y (6.4).

Sam Howell started the game hot, but cooled down to at one point only being 6-of-13 (finished 14 of 26 for 225y).

UNC led 14-3 early and BC was unable to sustain drives in the RZ having to settle for 3 FGs inside the 20 after long drives. UNC also kicked a short one and missed a long one.

UNC O only generated 3 pts in the 2nd H (plus the ret'd 2pt conversion for a total of 5).

For the game UNC outgained them 401-353 (6.2-4.7).
 
Memphis was playing for first time in 28 days and trailed 3-24 2nd Q but did have 121y of O on their first 3 possessions. Two of SMU's early scores were 75 and 80y TDs. The teams traded turnovers as Memphis was scoring 17 unanswered to cut the deficit to 20-24 HT. SMU kicked a FG, Memphis got a TD to tie...27-27, then SMU fumbled at the M17. The 4th Q saw 4 straight punts, then Memphis was sacked/fumbled at the S44 with just 1:44 left. SMU driving for go-ahead FG, Buechelle was sacked with :22 left, but then connected for a 13y pass setting up the game winning 43y FG.

Memphis finished with a 585-549 TY edge.

Super SMU WR Reggie Roberson left the game with a leg injury. He had caught 5rec for 243 and 2TDs in the game.

SMU's student section was removed from the game due to breaking covid protocols. To which Sonny Dykes said in a tweet "Shoutout to our fans and the students, we see you! This win is for you!"
 
Both Texas Tech and Kansas State lost their starting QBs to injury in the first half.

K State blk'd a punt for the third straight game. This one led to the opening TD on a 3p 16y "drive". Bowman was knocked out on a low hit (penalty) on just the second possession of the game. TT would miss a 33y and 35y FG with Colombi at QB and K St got two chunk runs to lead 14-0 after Thompson was knocked out.

TT opened with an 18p 88y TD drive to open the 3rd Q. K St got a 28y FG then TT broke a 49y TD run...17-14 Cats. Later Colombi would hit 4-of-4 passing leading TT to take the 21-17 lead early 4th. After a K St 66y TD score made it 24-21, Colombi threw into double coverage in the EZ. With under 5min left TT ran for a 4th down conv, but a holding penalty forced them to punt. Clocking ticking down to 2 minutes Duece took a pass 70y to make the score 31-21 K State win.

TT outgained them 471-444 (5.7-6.3).
 
Oklahoma State outgained Kansas 593-193! KU didn't have a play gain more than 10 yards until the 4th Q.

To this Les Miles said "I didn't feel like we were overwhelmed. I felt like should we continue to go the course we're going, we'll be fine," Kansas coach Les Miles said.

OSU led 31-0 at HT on a day Kansas celebrated Gale Sayers at half time. The Comet deserved much better.
 
Mac Jones hit Metchie on a 78y TD then Harris capped their next drive to go up 14-0. Metchie finished 5rec for 181y 2 TD (only had 4rec for 23y as a '19 frosh). Texas A&M got an INT and hit a 47y TD, then Aggies got an INT and one play later had a 17y TD pass to surprisingly tie the game at 14-14! In the blink of an eye Bama was back up 35-14 HT and would later connect on 87 and 63 yard TDs in the 52-24 win. Bama outgained them 544-450 (9.9-5.8) - 227y of aTm's yards were on their final 4 possessions of the game before that they gained just 74y on their prior 4 possessions. Something Nick Saban can rant about if he wants this week, zero sacks. Although they were credited with 8 QBH.
 
Duke only had 71y of O in the 1st H to VT's almost 200y, yet VT only led 10-7 thanks to Duke falling on a muffed punt in the EZ. VT had a 60y TD drive and kicked a FG from the D04 for their points.

The second half was an offensive explosion. Duke got a 41y TD pass on 3rd and 21, but a VT 83y KO return set up VT to retake the lead. 17-14. From here VT would have three leads of 10 pts...24-14 and 31-21 and 38-28 the last coming with just 2minutes left. Duke then went on a 15p 54y drive converting 4th down twice and decided to kick a 39y FG on 1st down as time expired in the game. 38-31 Final.

VT outgained them 487-410.

Duke scored 39 points total through their first 3 games. They scored 31 vs VT (7 of which were the fallen on muffed punt TD).
 
Texas is garbage again. I've given up hope and accepted mediocrity, at best. Probably have for awhile. Poorly coached. No discipline. No attention to detail. Rarely buttoned up. Herman's a MENSA member but somehow looks clueless way too often. Always the smartest person in the room, in his eyes, but dumb things and stupidity are so prevalent.

Hate that I have to watch an Alabama or Clemson game to see well-coached teams. We're not even in the same zip code when it comes to that.
 
Frank Costanza said:
Texas is garbage again. I've given up hope and accepted mediocrity, at best. Probably have for awhile. Poorly coached. No discipline. No attention to detail. Rarely buttoned up. Herman's a MENSA member but somehow looks clueless way too often. Always the smartest person in the room, in his eyes, but dumb things and stupidity are so prevalent.

Hate that I have to watch an Alabama or Clemson game to see well-coached teams. We're not even in the same zip code when it comes to that.
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they really should have lost that tt game as double digits favs as well
 
TahoeLegend said:
BYU has the best QB in college football, at least based on what has happened so far. He throws a beautiful pass, laser guided, on a line, 40 yards away, right on the numbers, and does it over and over. And BYU has big receivers--they all look at least 6-4--who catch anything that comes their way.

They haven't played the strongest schedule, but they are blowing everyone they play off the field and the BYU coach never takes his foot off the pedal and keeps trying to score more.
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Glad LSU didn’t play em
 
Frank Costanza said:
Texas is garbage again. I've given up hope and accepted mediocrity, at best. Probably have for awhile. Poorly coached. No discipline. No attention to detail. Rarely buttoned up. Herman's a MENSA member but somehow looks clueless way too often. Always the smartest person in the room, in his eyes, but dumb things and stupidity are so prevalent.

Hate that I have to watch an Alabama or Clemson game to see well-coached teams. We're not even in the same zip code when it comes to that.
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I was waiting patiently for it Frank. Thank you.
Biggest quagmire in CFB and it ain’t close
 
Frank Costanza said:
Texas is garbage again. I've given up hope and accepted mediocrity, at best. Probably have for awhile. Poorly coached. No discipline. No attention to detail. Rarely buttoned up. Herman's a MENSA member but somehow looks clueless way too often. Always the smartest person in the room, in his eyes, but dumb things and stupidity are so prevalent.

Hate that I have to watch an Alabama or Clemson game to see well-coached teams. We're not even in the same zip code when it comes to that.
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Change some names around and I’d swear you took this from Texags.
 
pressitup said:
They used to. Didn’t see it much in the first game.
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I wouldn’t want to be caught in a dark alley with any member of the defense outside of Stingley and Gaye. It happens often that talent evaluators miss on kids but how this kid went the JUCO route is mind blowing. Maybe I don’t know the whole story, but if you haven’t watched this guy please do.
 
twinkie13 said:
I was waiting patiently for it Frank. Thank you.
Biggest quagmire in CFB and it ain’t close
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We excel at delivering Top 10 recruiting classes. But we further excel at coaching them down to the nth degree once they get on campus. TCU gets the leftover players that Texas doesn't want but they've somehow managed to win 6 of the last 7 in the series. Actually, there's no "somehow" about it.

-Small sample size, I know, but I don't remember seeing a collective group of better hands than the Alabama offense. WRs. TEs. RBs. All can catch, and well. I'm sure they'll run a tackle eligible play sometime this season and he'll catch the ball.
- Haven't heard, but who did Leach throw under the bus this week? Anyone but himself, I'm sure. Unbridled clown.
- I love BYU. They're everything I don't see in Austin - executing, disciplined, no bullshit football team. And, yes, Zach Wilson is really good.
- And on the subject of hands, or a hand. I know everyone has seen it, but it's worth watching again. Give up 7 inches to a WR? Meh, he's got it.
 
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