Week 17 Discussion

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Sunday, December 30, 2012 Game/2ndH 1stH 1stQ 2ndQ 3rdQ 4thQ
# Team Name Spread Total MoneyLn T1 Total T2 Total
1:00 pm
1405 New York Jets -115
1406 Buffalo Bills -3½ -105
4:25 pm (TM CH)
1407 Miami Dolphins -115
1408 New England Patriots -10½ -105 46½
1:00 pm
1409 Baltimore Ravens
1410 Cincinnati Bengals -2½ 41
1:00 pm
1413 Houston Texans -7 -105
1414 Indianapolis Colts -115
1:00 pm
1415 Jacksonville Jaguars
1416 Tennessee Titans -4 42
8:30 pm (TM CH)
1419 Dallas Cowboys -125
1420 Washington Redskins -3½ +105 49
1:00 pm
1421 Chicago Bears -3 -105 44½
1422 Detroit Lions -115
4:25 pm (TM CH)
1423 Green Bay Packers -3½ +100 45½
1424 Minnesota Vikings -120
1:00 pm
1427 Carolina Panthers
1428 New Orleans Saints -5½ 54
4:25 pm
1429 Kansas City Chiefs
1430 Denver Broncos -16 42
4:25 pm
1433 Arizona Cardinals
1434 San Francisco 49ers -16½ 38½
4:25 pm
1435 St Louis Rams
1436 Seattle Seahawks -10½ 41
Line Changes Made Within Last 15 Minutes Are Highlighted.
 
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[TD="colspan: 13"]National Football Conference[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: colhead"]
[TD="class: sortcell, width: 9%, align: left"]CONF RK[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%, align: left"]NFC[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]T[/TD]
[TD]PCT[/TD]
[TD]DIV[/TD]
[TD]CONF[/TD]
[TD]SOS[/TD]
[TD]SOV[/TD]
[TD="width: 37%, align: left"]REASON[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-1"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]* - Atlanta[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].867[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]9-2-0[/TD]
[TD].418[/TD]
[TD].415[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NFC South Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-9"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]z - Green Bay[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].733[/TD]
[TD]5-0-0[/TD]
[TD]8-3-0[/TD]
[TD].498[/TD]
[TD].445[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NFC North Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-25"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]x - San Francisco[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD].700[/TD]
[TD]2-2-1[/TD]
[TD]6-4-1[/TD]
[TD].520[/TD]
[TD].500[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NFC West Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-28"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Washington[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].600[/TD]
[TD]4-1-0[/TD]
[TD]7-4-0[/TD]
[TD].496[/TD]
[TD].452[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NFC East Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-26"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]x - Seattle[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].667[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]7-4-0[/TD]
[TD].509[/TD]
[TD].537[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-16"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Minnesota[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].600[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]6-5-0[/TD]
[TD].507[/TD]
[TD].437[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Chicago based on best win percentage in division games.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-3"]
[TD="align: left"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Chicago[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].600[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]6-5-0[/TD]
[TD].533[/TD]
[TD].419[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-6"]
[TD="align: left"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Dallas[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].533[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]5-6-0[/TD]
[TD].511[/TD]
[TD].408[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over NY Giants based on best win percentage in division games.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-19"]
[TD="align: left"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NY Giants[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].533[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]7-4-0[/TD]
[TD].544[/TD]
[TD].521[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-14"]
[TD="align: left"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]St. Louis[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD].500[/TD]
[TD]4-0-1[/TD]
[TD]6-4-1[/TD]
[TD].524[/TD]
[TD].481[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-18"]
[TD="align: left"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]New Orleans[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].467[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]5-6-0[/TD]
[TD].527[/TD]
[TD].448[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-27"]
[TD="align: left"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Tampa Bay[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].400[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]3-8-0[/TD]
[TD].482[/TD]
[TD].367[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Carolina based on head-to-head win percentage.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-29"]
[TD="align: left"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Carolina[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].400[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].520[/TD]
[TD].478[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-22"]
[TD="align: left"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Arizona[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].333[/TD]
[TD]1-4-0[/TD]
[TD]3-8-0[/TD]
[TD].553[/TD]
[TD].480[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-8"]
[TD="align: left"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Detroit[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].267[/TD]
[TD]0-5-0[/TD]
[TD]3-8-0[/TD]
[TD].569[/TD]
[TD].392[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Philadelphia based on head-to-head win percentage.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-21"]
[TD="align: left"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Philadelphia[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].267[/TD]
[TD]1-4-0[/TD]
[TD]2-9-0[/TD]
[TD].507[/TD]
[TD].483[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
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<tbody>[TR="class: stathead"]
[TD="colspan: 13"]American Football Conference[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: colhead"]
[TD="class: sortcell, width: 9%, align: left"]CONF RK[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%, align: left"]AFC[/TD]
[TD]W[/TD]
[TD]L[/TD]
[TD]T[/TD]
[TD]PCT[/TD]
[TD]DIV[/TD]
[TD]CONF[/TD]
[TD]SOS[/TD]
[TD]SOV[/TD]
[TD="width: 37%, align: left"]REASON[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-34"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]z - Houston[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].800[/TD]
[TD]5-0-0[/TD]
[TD]10-1-0[/TD]
[TD].480[/TD]
[TD].428[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AFC South Champ
Wins tie break over Denver based on head-to-head win percentage.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-7"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]z - Denver[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].800[/TD]
[TD]5-0-0[/TD]
[TD]9-2-0[/TD]
[TD].480[/TD]
[TD].400[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AFC West Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-17"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]z - New England[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].733[/TD]
[TD]5-0-0[/TD]
[TD]10-1-0[/TD]
[TD].502[/TD]
[TD].470[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AFC East Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-33"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]z - Baltimore[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].667[/TD]
[TD]4-1-0[/TD]
[TD]8-3-0[/TD]
[TD].484[/TD]
[TD].433[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]AFC North Champ [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-11"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]y - Indianapolis[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].667[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]7-4-0[/TD]
[TD].422[/TD]
[TD].367[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-4"]
[TD="class: sortcell, align: left"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]y - Cincinnati[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].600[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]6-5-0[/TD]
[TD].427[/TD]
[TD].348[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-15"]
[TD="align: left"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Miami[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].467[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]5-6-0[/TD]
[TD].480[/TD]
[TD].414[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Pittsburgh based on best win percentage in conference games.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-23"]
[TD="align: left"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Pittsburgh[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].467[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].476[/TD]
[TD].457[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-24"]
[TD="align: left"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]San Diego[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].400[/TD]
[TD]3-2-0[/TD]
[TD]6-5-0[/TD]
[TD].471[/TD]
[TD].289[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over NY Jets based on head-to-head win percentage.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-20"]
[TD="align: left"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]NY Jets[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].400[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].516[/TD]
[TD].406[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-5"]
[TD="align: left"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Cleveland[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].333[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]5-6-0[/TD]
[TD].502[/TD]
[TD].373[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Buffalo and Tennessee based on best win percentage in conference games.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-10"]
[TD="align: left"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Tennessee[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].333[/TD]
[TD]0-5-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].538[/TD]
[TD].387[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Buffalo based on head-to-head win percentage.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-2"]
[TD="align: left"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Buffalo[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].333[/TD]
[TD]1-4-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].493[/TD]
[TD].280[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-13"]
[TD="align: left"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Oakland[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].267[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]4-7-0[/TD]
[TD].471[/TD]
[TD].217[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: oddrow team-28-30"]
[TD="align: left"]15[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jacksonville[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].133[/TD]
[TD]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD]2-9-0[/TD]
[TD].551[/TD]
[TD].500[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wins tie break over Kansas City based on best win percentage in conference games.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: evenrow team-28-12"]
[TD="align: left"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kansas City[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
[TD].133[/TD]
[TD]0-5-0[/TD]
[TD]0-11-0[/TD]
[TD].489[/TD]
[TD].433[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>
[/TABLE]
 
Get some opinions on Minnesota/Green Bay? Clay Matthews didnt play in that first game between the two. Minny pretty much outplayed them the first time the two teams played. GB wins and they get a bye week. Vikings defense has been insane the last month. Adrian record etc....
 
I don't think KC will score, that team is done. Jets have checked out, but not sure I can lay pts with a Bills team that I believe has also checked out.

Pats may look to get everything going and get some momentum going into the playoffs. What will the weather be like in Foxboro? Miami has nothing to play for.

If Indy loses and Cincy wins, who gets the 5/6 seed? Or am I totally missing something and thats already locked in? Pagano's first game back, and they're not benching any starters. Baltimore not trotting Ray Ray out there, although he is healthy. I don't think we see a max effort from the Ravens.

Lions have quit, but are the Bears good enough to go in there and win?

Saints/Carolina might be a good game, both teams have shown they're still playing, and neither has show signs of quitting on the year. I'd argue that both are pretty hot teams right now, and playing damn good football.

Cards starting Bryan Hoyer against San Fran. If San Fran scores 17 they cover right?

Seattle TT over? No way you can back St louis right?

Typically this is the spot where Dallas lays down in the big moment right?
 
Typically this is the spot where Dallas lays down in the big moment right?

Typically this is the spot where Dallas is:

a) Facing a more experienced opponent and a QB with Super Bowl experience - not here
b) Coming off 2 losses in L3 and 3 losses in last 4 - not here
c) On the road - true
d) Facing a team that's hot or getting hot down the stretch - true

This will be a decided in the last possession game.
 
Sherman winning his appeal is the biggest news of the week

That guy has been freakin awesome!!! That d for Seattle is playing lights out right now, setting up offense and momentum! This team is hitting all the strides at the right time. No one will want to face them right now IMO.
 
Browns-Steelers might be the most lightly viewed game in the history of the rivalry. Lame ducks in one corner, old and broken down disappointments in the other.
 
Shurmur hasn't officially ruled out Weeden or McCoy, DWoww. It's this kind of coy and crafty gamesmanship that endears him to all of us.
 
Would laugh to see Browns fans pile into Heinz enmasse. There's probably at least 20,000 tickets that can be had cheap.
 
Tall order, they haven't piled in en masse in their own place.
 
Indy +7 has to be a play, no? Don't know how anyone could lay a TD with Hou OTR right now. Expected this to be Hou -3.5 at the most.
 
I think Mia has plenty to play for - they are playing the team that has owned the division and they can still finish .500.
 
Also played Chi. Worst part about this being week 17 is this is our last chance to fade Detroit.
 
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1. Houston Texans (12-3)
• Would clinch the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage through the AFC playoffs with a win at the Colts or both a Broncos loss and Patriots loss.
• Would clinch a first-round bye with a Broncos loss or Patriots loss/tie.
• Would be the No. 3 seed with a loss and Broncos win and Patriots win.
Last two weeks: L 6-23 vs. Vikings, at Colts (1 ET, CBS)
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2. Denver Broncos (12-3)
• Would clinch the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage through the AFC playoffs with a win vs. the Chiefs and Texans loss/tie.
• Would clinch a first-round bye with a win/tie or Patriots loss/tie.
• Would be the No. 3 seed with a loss and Patriots win.
Last two weeks: W 34-12 vs. Browns, vs. Chiefs (4:25 ET, CBS)
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3. New England Patriots (11-4)
• Would clinch the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage through the AFC playoffs with a win vs. the Dolphins and Texans loss and Broncos loss.
• Would clinch a first-round bye with a win and either a Texans loss or Broncos loss.
• Would clinch the No. 3 seed with a win/tie or Ravens loss/tie.
• Would be the No. 4 seed with a loss and Ravens win.
Last two weeks: W 23-16 at Jaguars, vs. Dolphins (4:25 ET, CBS)
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4. Baltimore Ravens (10-5)
• Clinched the North due to a better division record than the Bengals (4-1 to 2-3).
• Would clinch the No. 3 seed with a win at the Bengals and Patriots loss.
• Would be the No. 4 seed with a loss/tie or Patriots win/tie.
Last two weeks: W 33-14 vs. Giants, at Bengals (1 ET, CBS)

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5. Indianapolis Colts (10-5)
• Clinched a playoff berth and the No. 5 seed with a win due to a better record in common games than the Bengals (4-1 to 3-2).
Last two weeks: W 20-13 at Chiefs, vs. Texans (1 ET, CBS)
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6. Cincinnati Bengals (9-6)
• Clinched a playoff berth with a win and will be the No. 6 seed.
Last two weeks: W 13-10 at Steelers, vs. Ravens (1 ET, CBS)

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1. Atlanta Falcons (13-2)
• Clinched the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage in the NFC playoffs.
Last two weeks: W 31-18 at Lions, vs. Buccaneers (1 ET, Fox)
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2. Green Bay Packers (11-4)
• Have clinched the North.
• Would clinch a first-round bye with a win at the Vikings or both a 49ers loss and Seahawks loss/tie.
Last two weeks: W 55-7 vs. Titans, at Vikings (4:25 ET, Fox)
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3. San Francisco 49ers (10-4-1)
• Have clinched a playoff berth.
• Would clinch the West with a win/tie or Seahawks loss/tie.
• Would clinch a first-round bye with a win/tie vs. the Cardinals and Packers loss.
Last two weeks: L 13-42 at Seahawks, vs. Cardinals (4:25 ET, Fox)
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4. Washington Redskins (9-6)
• Would clinch the East and No. 4 seed with a win.
• Would clinch a playoff berth with a Vikings loss and Bears loss.
• Would finish behind the Cowboys with a loss to Dallas due to their record in common games (8-4 to 7-5).
Last two weeks: W 27-20 at Eagles, vs. Cowboys (8:20 ET, NBC/Yahoo! Sports)
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5. Seattle Seahawks (10-5)
• Clinched a playoff berth and at worst the No. 5 seed due to head-to-head wins vs. the Vikings and Bears.
• Would clinch the West (and No. 3 seed) with a win vs. the Rams and a 49ers loss, and a first-round bye if the Packers also lose.
Last two weeks: W 42-13 vs. 49ers, vs. Rams (4:25 ET, Fox)
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6. Minnesota Vikings (9-6)
• Lead the Bears due to division record (3-2 to 2-3).
• Would clinch a playoff berth with a win.
• Would clinch a playoff berth with a Bears loss and Cowboys loss and Giants loss.
Last two weeks: W 23-6 at Texans, vs. Packers (4:25 ET, Fox)
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7. Chicago Bears (9-6)
• Would clinch a playoff berth with a win and a Vikings loss.
Last two weeks: W 28-13 at Cardinals, at Lions (1 ET, Fox)
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8. Dallas Cowboys (8-7)
• Would clinch the East and No. 4 seed with a win due to division record (4-2 to the <NOBR>Giants' 3-3)</NOBR> and a better record in common games than the Redskins (8-4 to 7-5).
• Cannot be a wild card.
Last two weeks: L 31-34 vs. Saints, at Redskins (8:20 ET, NBC/Yahoo! Sports)
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9. New York Giants (8-7)
• Would clinch a playoff berth with a win and Vikings loss and Bears loss and Cowboys loss.
Last two weeks: L 14-33 at Ravens, vs. Eagles (1 ET, Fox)
 
Love the eagles, the nyg pass rush is usually great so the bad O-line would have the qb scrambling anyways and now it's Vick. Shady back, this is a team that was lined at 10 RSW and the giants are clearly flawed even if this is a must-win
 
Marlo mentioned Minnesota's defense the last few... sick.. Now its likely they get Robinson back this week (anyone an update there) and a pissed off Greenway (pro bowl snub) at home catching 3x...
 
gmen are +600 to get in to the playoffs if you do a 4 team ml parlay

crazy thiing is i think dallas beats the skins

washington will most likely have to travel to san fran if they lose vs dallas.... that would suck
 
Why can't I back st Louis? I would hate going against the 120th man (on purpose) but this should be a lot of points and obviously a huge let-down. Plus I think StL is good, playing sf tough twice confirmed that for me
 
odds a rookie QB wins the superbowl....

My personal line is 1,000,000-1 but I have a feeling that's not realistic lol...

Brady or Manning IMO...

what you guys think?
 
Lookin hard at Saints.....they havent given up. I was wrong last week(barely)

They remember week 2
 
*BIG PLAY*




I think the Saints make a statement here.. Last game of season and its a HOME game too and they are also trying to end up at .500. Not only that but there is some revenge considering the Panthers beat them earlier this season. Saints have been hot lately beating TB by 41 and beating Dallas on the road. I think the Saints put on a show and beat the Panthers and cover a relatively small spread.

Saints 34-20
 
*BIG PLAY*




I think the Saints make a statement here.. Last game of season and its a HOME game too and they are also trying to end up at .500. Not only that but there is some revenge considering the Panthers beat them earlier this season. Saints have been hot lately beating TB by 41 and beating Dallas on the road. I think the Saints put on a show and beat the Panthers and cover a relatively small spread.

Saints 34-20
yep
 
gmen are +600 to get in to the playoffs if you do a 4 team ml parlay

crazy thiing is i think dallas beats the skins

washington will most likely have to travel to san fran if they lose vs dallas.... that would suck

If Washington loses, they are most likely out of the playoffs. They could still get in with losses by Chi and Min, but they pretty much need to win to get in.
 
Why all the love for Det?? What am I missing??

Im on the Bears too, in a must win, but I think the love is more for Megatron getting record/lack if offense from the Bears, which the Det D should help remedy this week. And the Lions have proven that Calvin doesn't win games for them, Stafford loses them.
 
I'm believing that Atlanta sits everyone Tampa plays to win and coach tells em don't quit or they r done playin for him and have quit Tampa and the points
 
Seems like last week was the game Det should have won. I just see them trying to force the ball to Megatron all game and Bears being ready for it.
 
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