Week 14 Discussion Thread

2daBank said:
As much as I think Peyton could make cards a playoff team I also think it like the one place he could fail cause who knows if kyler would buy in? Peyton could make cards a playoff team with McCoy as they starter probably!!
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Thing w/Chargers is it appears they are his preferred destination but they'll also be dealing with Herbert's extension this offseason too. Going to require a ton of commitment from them to do both. You know Payton wants a franchise QB and Kyler being locked up is important...I've seen LAC and AZ as Payton's two preferred places. Kyler/Kliff goes back a long way from when Kliff recruited him to Tx Tech and Kyler picked A&M, then the whole transfer thing.

Not sure how he'd do with Payton, I assume he'd do well...I'm just leery of giving a ton of power to one person because it literally marries you to them, even if they get canned after 5 years, for a decade. Again, if it happens, it would be interesting. And if it's on the table, Kliff and Keim are gone yesterday.
 
KJ said:
Thing w/Chargers is it appears they are his preferred destination but they'll also be dealing with Herbert's extension this offseason too. Going to require a ton of commitment from them to do both. You know Payton wants a franchise QB and Kyler being locked up is important...I've seen LAC and AZ as Payton's two preferred places. Kyler/Kliff goes back a long way from when Kliff recruited him to Tx Tech and Kyler picked A&M, then the whole transfer thing.

Not sure how he'd do with Payton, I assume he'd do well...I'm just leery of giving a ton of power to one person because it literally marries you to them, even if they get canned after 5 years, for a decade. Again, if it happens, it would be interesting. And if it's on the table, Kliff and Keim are gone yesterday.
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I thought they shoulda fired kliff last year. I’ve just seen Peyton a few times on cowherd and I get the feeling he thinks kyler a headache but I could be wrong. I have no doubt he would make the talent on cards perform like they should, kyler too if he interested in being a winner and buying in? Ever since I got over his talent that been my major question w him. Im sure the talent is appealing to pryton headache or not. Is kliff kyler biggest problem? He certainly part of it and most coaches ego would say they can make that talent work, kyler wasn’t lying when he brought up kliff schemes last week, not that he shoulda said it but I been saying it. If he willing to be coached they a instant playoff team w peyton imo. Then again I think chargers a instant SB contender if Peyton took them over. If im a fan base of either that who im preying for, just as a fan of the league I’d love to see him fix one these talented teams, god knows we need more good football and both have the talent. Coaching matters so much in this league. That crappy giants team has a winning record w a good coach!
 
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B.A.R. said:
Atmosphere will be tremendous.

I feel the line is a bit out of hand tho.


Anything can happen.... That's my mindset...
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I saw you picked Vikings in pick club! I was already scared of the line, lol. I have no doubt it be close but still seems backwards even if I agree with it. Obviously the prevailing feeling is Vikings can’t keep winning every 1 score game.
 
B.A.R. said:
Today is a tremendous opportunity
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I think the matchup is incredibly favorable. Just styles of both defenses should play really well imto lions hands. Lions blitzing and playing man isn’t the d’s cousins been successful against, him and Goff both much better facing zone and that predominantly what Vikings play, both much better home than road also: Really feels like ya’lls game to win or lose, if ya ignore the season stats lions d actually been much better lately, they played lot of teams that didn’t have weapons on outside Vikings do tho. The thanksgiving day game I thought the d showed something.
 
KJ said:
Not for this thread but it's the only one I'm doing this early and...ooooooof

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Bad beat: Overtime causes Army-Navy to go over the total for the first time since 2005

Navy's first passing completion of the game put the game over the total.
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Thanks for reminding me. Lol. Luckily I also teased army/under so didn’t lose anything but didn’t make shit on what shoooda been another year one of the easiest bet of the year come in! Lol. It went to ot last year or the prior also (I forget) and managed to still sneak under so law of averages I guess and I always say ot the only way this game gets over any number, I should prob start playing more 1st half in these going forward along w the game and teaser.
 
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DK has the super boost on both Herbert and Tua 250+ passing yds at +150, worth an ask if you go to the casino and want to play it. Mine is max $50, no idea if it slides on your status. I'm silver with them and will be playing it among other things.
 
KJ said:
DK has the super boost on both Herbert and Tua 250+ passing yds at +150, worth an ask if you go to the casino and want to play it. Mine is max $50, no idea if it slides on your status. I'm silver with them and will be playing it among other things.
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Seems like a free 75 bucks!
 
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KJ said:
I honestly think their marketing dept hopes most of these hit. They seem to do well in all sports but can hit droughts.
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Yea, im sure most the ppl who play them give it back if it hits anyways. Like a little thank you fun free play. They always doing the sign up and bet a dollar on any team to win and get like 150 in free play money.
 
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2daBank said:
Yea, im sure most the ppl who play them give it back if it hits anyways. Like a little thank you fun free play. They always doing the sign up and bet a dollar on any team to win and get like 150 in free play money.
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Yep there's a method, gotta pick n choose when to take advantage. Free play isn't actually money, it's an encouragement to keep gamblin'
 
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Damn. All week I heard the radio/tv ppl say good weather but I guess that qualifies in Buffalo this time of year. I wanna like jets but I’d also like to see little more of white. 1 his 2 picks last week wasn’t really his fault and it was rather nasty when he lit up bears crappy secondary. Bills d obviously a big step up from the 2 he has faced thus far and we know what he did last time he saw them!
 
KJ said:
Yep there's a method, gotta pick n choose when to take advantage. Free play isn't actually money, it's an encouragement to keep gamblin'
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True, I assume there prob some kinda cap on how much you could pull off it anyways, I didn’t read real close, tried to run it up but lost it as I usually do online, lol. I def like some of those you mention way more than others, this feels like one to play for sure. I think nfl got a good one here, the Sunday night game been kinda trending over lately. With how garbage sooo many games been this year you would think they make a real effort with this flex spot rest the year to be entertaining games or ones that decide playoff birth, preferably both.
 
I bet the 9ers every week - moderate to way too big. Today I am not confident and hope to be surprised. Purdy got away with a few bad throws and almost fumbled the game away. 9ers hung on to that game vs blew them out last week. Purdy’s arm makes Jimmy look like Josh Allen. I expect Bucs to bring 10 to the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we can sneak it out. Kyle is weird this should be a 50 rush game and he will overthink it and throw it 45 times. He would do this with Nick Mullens…

Interested to see a lot of rain and cold in NYC. I think Eagles like a track meet surface and it sure their style will equate to playoff conditions. We’ll see…
 
Inspekdah said:
I bet the 9ers every week - moderate to way too big. Today I am not confident and hope to be surprised. Purdy got away with a few bad throws and almost fumbled the game away. 9ers hung on to that game vs blew them out last week. Purdy’s arm makes Jimmy look like Josh Allen. I expect Bucs to bring 10 to the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we can sneak it out. Kyle is weird this should be a 50 rush game and he will overthink it and throw it 45 times. He would do this with Nick Mullens…

Interested to see a lot of rain and cold in NYC. I think Eagles like a track meet surface and it sure their style will equate to playoff conditions. We’ll see…
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Pretty shitty conditions in Buffalo, I'd say rain and moderate wind/temps in Jersey shouldn't hurt the offenses at all in that one
 
Inspekdah said:
I bet the 9ers every week - moderate to way too big. Today I am not confident and hope to be surprised. Purdy got away with a few bad throws and almost fumbled the game away. 9ers hung on to that game vs blew them out last week. Purdy’s arm makes Jimmy look like Josh Allen. I expect Bucs to bring 10 to the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we can sneak it out. Kyle is weird this should be a 50 rush game and he will overthink it and throw it 45 times. He would do this with Nick Mullens…

Interested to see a lot of rain and cold in NYC. I think Eagles like a track meet surface and it sure their style will equate to playoff conditions. We’ll see…
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Im usually on niners also but passing today. Bucs tough to run on so I dunno, I wouldn’t blame him for throwing a lot, crazy high variance game I’d think, to me that usually means I should play the dog but I’m not going against niners until I see them suck w Purdy. This week so tough cause I’d think situationally this be his best chance to succeed as nobody has seen a purdy game plan yet, but bucs defense ain’t exactly the d for him to shine against. I’d say under cept it so low and there potential for turnovers and like you said shanny could call 45 pass plays, 37 tough if that happens. How much bucs offense can score im not sure? I think throwing to the outside the best way to attack niners d but Brady ain’t been hooking up with evans much, he living off Godwin and his inside the hash throws which I’d think you agree niners defensive strength.
 
2daBank said:
Im usually on niners also but passing today. Bucs tough to run on so I dunno, I wouldn’t blame him for throwing a lot, crazy high variance game I’d think, to me that usually means I should play the dog but I’m not going against niners until I see them suck w Purdy. This week so tough cause I’d think situationally this be his best chance to succeed as nobody has seen a purdy game plan yet, but bucs defense ain’t exactly the d for him to shine against. I’d say under cept it so low and there potential for turnovers and like you said shanny could call 45 pass plays, 37 tough if that happens. How much bucs offense can score im not sure? I think throwing to the outside the best way to attack niners d but Brady ain’t been hooking up with evans much, he living off Godwin and his inside the hash throws which I’d think you agree niners defensive strength.
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I think the 9ers could win 13-10 and play field position but Kyle will want to throw because the defense says you can’t run.
 
Inspekdah said:
I think the 9ers could win 13-10 and play field position but Kyle will want to throw because the defense says you can’t run.
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Yea that sounds exactly right. Oddly If Jimmy was playing I think I’d feel better bout under, what would this line be if Jimmy was in? How much vegas adjust? I dunno what the look ahead was on this game.
 
Titans down to -3? I feel like I’m one the suckers who would usually play the jags and get my ass kicked. These the games titans feast on to get themselves in playoffs every year ain’t it? Sure jags more interesting but they still not that good. Feels like a spot Henry goes off. I like his over 88.5 rush yards also.
 
KJ said:
Yep there's a method, gotta pick n choose when to take advantage. Free play isn't actually money, it's an encouragement to keep gamblin'
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Who are you telling. Hit 2 $25 free play parlays this year & they sucked me in. I hit a boosted odds 2td x 2td parlay & I've been chasing that high ever since haha
 
2daBank said:
Titans down to -3? I feel like I’m one the suckers who would usually play the jags and get my ass kicked. These the games titans feast on to get themselves in playoffs every year ain’t it? Sure jags more interesting but they still not that good. Feels like a spot Henry goes off. I like his over 88.5 rush yards also.
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man f them yards he's gonna score 2 tuddies. +310
 
If there was 1 chalky prop I would lay the wood on it's Henry td-205. I've played about 5 props in my life over -175 but I think he could run backwards the whole game and score.
 
Lexington 125 said:
If there was 1 chalky prop I would lay the wood on it's Henry td-205. I've played about 5 props in my life over -175 but I think he could run backwards the whole game and score.
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I took one in the nuts playing Chubb to score in a lot of things last week but def feel like this another you could safely put in a lot of plays.
 
2daBank said:
Titans down to -3? I feel like I’m one the suckers who would usually play the jags and get my ass kicked. These the games titans feast on to get themselves in playoffs every year ain’t it? Sure jags more interesting but they still not that good. Feels like a spot Henry goes off. I like his over 88.5 rush yards also.
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Line drop is wild to me. I like the Titans to win big but I've been wrong about the jags all year so nothing would surprise me. I'm gonna scope out the half because maybe it's a wild one.
 
2daBank said:
I took one in the nuts playing Chubb to score in a lot of things last week but def feel like this another you could safely put in a lot of plays.
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I really like Cooper o60.5 & Cooper td+143 but I'm trying to be selective (expect Bills games haha)

I feel like I know what you're gonna say (Cooper on the road????)
 
Lexington 125 said:
Line drop is wild to me. I like the Titans to win big but I've been wrong about the jags all year so nothing would surprise me. I'm gonna scope out the half because maybe it's a wild one.
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Power ratings always hate the titans so I guess it not that shocking, jags def a “sharpish” kinda play, I’ve heard few ppl say they only have jags and titans 1 point different. Titans don’t really agree with their own power ratings tho, they been out performing those since Vrabel arrived. I’m sure I’ve been on jags in this kinda spot 100x and always lose, probably be fitting I give up and go square and they win/cover. I don’t care tho. I’ve seen this too many times, titans roll.
 
Lexington 125 said:
I really like Cooper o60.5 & Cooper td+143 but I'm trying to be selective (expect Bills games haha)

I feel like I know what you're gonna say (Cooper on the road????)
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You know me well, lol. I’m really square this week cause I think cincy rolls, I’d def play peoples-Jones before cooper, Then soon as they back home pound coop. Feel like double trouble w cooper road plus watson maybe still shaking rust but it could also be watson and him start a new dynamic. I’m far less interested in his under on road than I normally am so I don’t totally hate it, feel like more variance potential than usual.
 
Inspekdah said:
I bet the 9ers every week - moderate to way too big. Today I am not confident and hope to be surprised. Purdy got away with a few bad throws and almost fumbled the game away. 9ers hung on to that game vs blew them out last week. Purdy’s arm makes Jimmy look like Josh Allen. I expect Bucs to bring 10 to the line of scrimmage. Hopefully we can sneak it out. Kyle is weird this should be a 50 rush game and he will overthink it and throw it 45 times. He would do this with Nick Mullens…

Interested to see a lot of rain and cold in NYC. I think Eagles like a track meet surface and it sure their style will equate to playoff conditions. We’ll see…
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I thought the same- Purdy played great but wasn't game planned for. TB linebackers could go off. I hate hate fading the Niners but I'm on the points & TB ML. Matter of time before Evans gets going but I think Godwin might present some matchup probs too.

If Barkley was 100% I would have a large play on NYG. Divisional home doggie Eagles been smacking everyone lately but Colts showed the gameplan. DaBoll will play a run heavy game & try to work some misdirections. Giants played solid at home all season (outside of vs Det) & off the bad tie. I lean under too
 
I really like swift rush + rec prop, Henry rush /td props, foreman rush props. Wr wise I think st brown or chark be good, chargers passing game tonight. I don’t have a ton of wr love this week, I been hitting garrett wilson every week since White took over but im hesitant vs bills today.
 
Anyone seeing news on the Browns / Bungals game? Line down to -4 on Cincinnati and trying to see what caused the 1.5 point drop. Not seeing any injuries or players out as of now.
 
B.A.R. said:
Atmosphere will be tremendous.

I feel the line is a bit out of hand tho.


Anything can happen.... That's my mindset...
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Line is funny & I respect the Vikings... however

What really is the difference between -2/+2 to the casual bettor? Spread could always come into play but could also (more than likely) be a 3+ result either way. So to me these line moves more often than not affect nothing but people's perception.

Is it harder to play the Lions as a fave or Minny as a dog?
 
Lexington 125 said:
I thought the same- Purdy played great but wasn't game planned for. TB linebackers could go off. I hate hate fading the Niners but I'm on the points & TB ML. Matter of time before Evans gets going but I think Godwin might present some matchup probs too.

If Barkley was 100% I would have a large play on NYG. Divisional home doggie Eagles been smacking everyone lately but Colts showed the gameplan. DaBoll will play a run heavy game & try to work some misdirections. Giants played solid at home all season (outside of vs Det) & off the bad tie. I lean under too
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If purdy would have started and bucs saw shanny game plan with him I’d be more likely to go against niners. As Is I’m just staying away.

I hate the giants cause their roster is so gross for a winning team but they a huge example of my fav saying “coaching matters”, it clearly them or nothing to most any of us who have done this a long time, barkley health is what has kept me hesitant but I agree they gotta be the play and under feels like it correlates really well. They not staying in a shootout with Jones and those wrs vs eagles secondary, it gonna have to be ball control and eagles offense having a tough day which seems pretty reasonable to expect.
 
CryptoWhale said:
Anyone seeing news on the Browns / Bungals game? Line down to -4 on Cincinnati and trying to see what caused the 1.5 point drop. Not seeing any injuries or players out as of now.
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been looking as well. -200 I doubt that line gets any shorter.

Holy shot as I type -3.5/-190
 
Lexington 125 said:
been looking as well. -200 I doubt that line gets any shorter.

Holy shot as I type -3.5/-190
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Begging me to buy cincy to -3, I think I have to: I don’t believe browns beating them: if it wasn’t for the damn kc win and browns looking like stir fried shit against houston I woulda laid the bigger number.
 
CryptoWhale said:
Yeah weird movement here. Line -5.5 down to -3.5. Someone has got to be out.
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The only one I heard all week was higgens but that wouldn’t even change my mind and his tag got lifted. Far as I know everyone including mixon (which not a huge deal w Perine) playing. If higgens was scratched that wouldn’t explain this.
 
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