KJ
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It was discussed live in the ingame at the end of the first half lolI will, havnt gotten to yet
Bunch of CFB happened in a small amount of time
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Bunch of CFB happened in a small amount of time
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
With 3:30 left in the first half, there were 20 points on the board. Then, I bet the live under 56.5. Four minutes later there 51 points on the board. I didn't see any of that sequence.
KJ
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It was a true twilight zone moment
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
I think one of those RBs got hurt and not sure if he returned.
survive&advance
Nothing but net MFer!
Yea what scares me is I thought the line would be 7 max. Now I’m wondering what I’m missing
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
The only recent common opponent and comparable spread is UCF.
10/16 UCF at Cincy -21.5 - 56-21
11/13 UCF at SMU -7 - 55-28
That example alone would imply Cincy -14.5 vs SMU without figuring in any other variables.
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
I thought the NM St thing was a misprint earlier. That’s awesome
twinkie13
In transit, arriving late.
Yea I think I’ll take the points with the ponies for sure.
How’s the weather you seen?
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Outside of last year, this is correct. And they did cover last year the week before Alabama. But they also had 2 more games after due to makeups
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I dunno? I mean cincy did blow them out last year, I think they more than capable of clamping down on smu and making life miserable for Mortoci (I’m sure I’m spelling wrong but whatever), problem is they havnt been playing that high a level defense of late. I know kj thinks it just cause they havnt been inspired vs these scrubs but even if that true I’m not a big fan of teams thinking they can flip a switch after coasting for a month. Even if cincy d does kick it up a notch im not sure the offense can pull away, smu pretty stout vs the run so it will be on ridder, at some point smu gonna score some points, feel like if they can get to 20 they cover this number.
Marsski
MAC Marvel
Akron-Kent is the Wagon Wheel game, I'd be surprised by a lookahead.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Sometimes in rivalry games when one team has more to play for somewhere else, the proverbial bigger fish to fry, that is when an upset can happen.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Cincinnati was just better last year. They are still capable of playing to that level, but rarely do. So while they win comfortably last year, that would not be what I assume happens this year. Looked at the Phil Steele book and it says that game was just 14-10 HT.
I am going to expect a competitive game that can go either way. The points appear generous. SMU will have to make a lot of mistakes to not cover.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i agree im just trying to explain maybe why spread is that high?
Ticketwindow
Pretty much a regular
2daBank
Voice of Reason
Especially if it been a one sided deal where one team has been stomping the other which without looking I’d assume the case here?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
I heard this morning Nix broke his ankle, that can’t be good. I can’t believe the contrast in halves last week, thought aub was gonna won easy and somehow they got destroyed after half! Was that them being overconfident in locker room or incredible adjustments by leech? Messy st couldn’t do anything offensively in that 1st half then in the second the qb goes 24-26 with 5 tds!! You don’t see that kind of thing real often!!
gps_3
Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
I didn't see the first half, so I can't comment on what changed. Nix said something after the game about how all the energy just left the stadium at halftime, and they couldn't get any momentum after. Of course, the injury to Nix was probably a big factor in his play
Didn't MSU do this exact thing in game 1 against La Tech? Had a huge 2nd half comeback?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
think so,, much different quality of comp tho. it didnt shock me that aub offense got shut down in 2nd so much, i was shocked they scored at will in 1st half, it just shocked me messy st offense was able to pick aub d apart in the 2nd half.
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
That was Miss State's largest comeback in program history, the one vs La Tech before the Auburn one.
It started in the 1st H. They had that last drive of the half, just their 4th of the game, maybe figured some things out, maybe QB started seeing the field better, maybe OL recognized what was happening, went into locker room and built off of that. I'd have to read some local press about reviews of the game, from afar I'd just give credit to Arnett, again, go into the locker room, fix what wasn't working.
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
I seem to recall that Leach was involved in two of the three biggest bowl comebacks I can think of — like 30-point comebacks, winning one and losing the other.
In 2006, Tech beat Minnesota after trailing 38-7 half way through the third. Can’t recall the other.
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
All I remember is him not protecting a lead. Continuing to pass and stop the clock, when all he had to do was run..
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
That might've been a New Mexico bowl vs Colorado State?
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
Yup...
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
I remember the uproar here after that game
booksbestfriend
On Johnny's Shitlist
Unfortunately, I was on them too. Always remember the bad beats
Rusty Trombone
Pretty much a regular
Clemson hasn't given up more than 27 all year.....I dont think WF is going to get much more if at all. Clemson still has a top 5 defense, and if the offense can move the ball against a terrible WF D, then the Clemson defense won't be in bad situations.....Clemson wins this by 14+
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i think ill be on clemson also, certainly leaning that way, sounds like shipely healthy and think he the key. tigers should be able to do what i thought ncst could but was skeptical they would since their play calling stinks!! dont think wake will get nearly the amount of possessions this week, i dunno if i trust clemson offense to win by 14+, DJ didnt even complete 50% against ucon! but i do think they will control game with rushing attack and should cover the number.
Rusty Trombone
Pretty much a regular
You're not missing anything. Casual fans betting FSU like usual and they just beat Miami.... Havent looked at the weather, but I'm gonna assume the temp is prolly 30+ degrees cooler during the game than a normal Miami November.....I have no stats, but Florida teams playing up north late in the season usually isn't a good thing for them
2daBank
Voice of Reason
im just really starting on card this week so maybe ill see what oddsmakers seeing but at 1st glance uva getting 14.5 at pitt seems nuts!! everyone knows i been a big pitt fan but this line crazy to me if Armstrong playing which i assume he is? To me this line only makes sense if he not.
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i could def see the case for thinking noles offense gonna have success on the ground, so far that my one sticking point is BC has struggled with teams who have running qbs which obviously is Travis best asset. Thing is Bc should be able to throw all over the noles, maybe ppl are looking at BC passing stats on the year which obviously dont mean much since they had a crappy qb playing in most of those! lol.. Jurk gonna have his way thru the air i think. maybe the over is something to look at?
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i watched a lot the canes/noles game and while fsu deserves some credit the truth of the matter is that was the 1st game ive seen VanDyke look like a freshman, he missed a lot of open guys in the 1st half of that game. He was still able to throw for 300+ and 4tds and he left a lot out there in the 1st half imo, it really wasnt anything fsu was doing, he had time, guys were running wide open, and he just missed them, I dont expect that to happen this week.
KJ
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Obv I'm on BC but a point to be made is that teams who we wanted to fade early on have a bunch more chemistry than they did then. Happens every year in sports that have such a high turnover rate and can't keep living on week 2 and 3 vibes
2daBank
Voice of Reason
i hear ya, i dont much worry bout what a team looked like early on, obviously it took noles a bunch of time to even figure out what the are/which qb to play with, and i do worry what they are offensively matches up well with BC, bc has struggled pretty much vs every team with a run 1st type qb which the main reason they allowing 5ypc on the ground,. noles will def be able to run on them, not sure if they will have much success if bc can turn Travis into a passer tho? Watching noles last week i feel pretty confident Jurkovec will be able to pass all over them, the over might be a decent play but both teams defenses have been really good in the red zone which gives me pause.
wiseplayer
Pretty much a regular
If Louisville scores 30pts a game and Duke gives up 34pts, why is Bovada's team total 40.5 on the road at Duke?
KJ
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Quick hitter but I think Ville will gladly indulge on a different pace that Duke wants to play at. Those stats aren't really meaningful when this will be both teams' fastest game and Ville can score better than anyone Duke has played (yes UK included)
M.W.
Parties like it's 1979
Clemson’s D has had Wake’s number, holding them to 26, 31, 33, and 24 points below their season average the last four years. In 2019, Clemson held Wake to 105 yards.
Skalski and Turner are facing this offense for the fifth time.
KJ
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Little tidbit into my brain
I love teams that can execute at a fast pace going on the road and trying to eliminate the thing the slower paced team needs to do to stay in the game. Ville 1h could be fun, I expect a bunch of no huddle from Ville early.
KJ
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Get it
Honestly I think more in the line of how and why to fade teams than vice versa. I think Louisville has the chops to make Duke play their game and it could get ugly. That said, a couple early turnover would flip that theory on its head.
KJ
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I just hope Ville shows up. If so, this shouldn't be a sweat
s--k
Goodbye to Romance College Football
Duke covered after UNC (if the line was 4.5) this year and that was 5 weeks ago. What are you saying here?
