Week 10 Discussion Thread

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Nov 2 Tue 2021

06:00 PM
303Ball State-18½
-110
O 57
-115
304Akron+1 Markets+18½
-110
U 57
-105
06:30 PM
301Eastern Michigan+9½
-110
O 52
-110
302Toledo+1 Markets-9½
-110
U 52
-110
06:30 PM
305Miami Ohio-6½
-120
O 51
-115
306Ohio+1 Markets+6½
+100
U 51
-105
Nov 3 Wed 2021

06:00 PM
307Northern Illinois+5½
-110
O 68
-110
308Kent State-5½
-110
U 68
-110
06:00 PM
309Central Michigan+9½
-105
O 62
-115
310Western Michigan-9½
-115
U 62
-105
Nov 4 Thu 2021

06:30 PM
313Georgia State+10½
-105
O 53½
-115
314UL Lafayette-10½
-115
U 53½
-105
Nov 5 Fri 2021

06:30 PM
315Virginia Tech-3
-110
O 48
-115
316Boston College+3
-110
U 48
-105
09:30 PM
317Utah-6½
-115
O 53
-105
318Stanford+6½
-105
U 53
-115
Nov 6 Sat 2021

10:30 AM
319Army+3
-115
O 37½
-105
320Air Force
-3
-105
U 37½
-115
11:00 AM
321Pittsburgh-20
-110
O 64
-110
322Duke+1 Markets+20
-110
U 64
-110
11:00 AM
325Georgia Tech+9½
-115
O 63½
-115
326Miami Florida+1 Markets-9½
-105
U 63½
-105
11:00 AM
331Louisiana Tech+13½
-110
O 51
-110
332UAB-13½
-110
U 51
-110
11:00 AM
339Wake Forest+2½
-105
O 75½
-110
340North Carolina+1 Markets-2½
-115
U 75½
-110
11:00 AM
345Illinois+14½
-110
O 44
-110
346Minnesota+1 Markets-14½
-110
U 44
-110
11:00 AM
349Kansas State-23½
-115
O 55½
-110
350Kansas+1 Markets+23½
-105
U 55½
-110
11:00 AM
355Liberty+10
-107
O 68½
-115
356Mississippi+1 Markets-10
-113
U 68½
-105
11:00 AM
373Ohio State-15
-110
O 63
-115
374Nebraska+1 Markets+15
-110
U 63
-105
11:00 AM
377SMU-6½
+100
O 70½
-110
378Memphis+1 Markets+6½
-120
U 70½
-110
02:00 PM
353Temple+14½
-115
O 55½
-105
354East Carolina+1 Markets-14½
-105
U 55½
-115
02:00 PM
367North Texas-4½
-108
O 47½
-115
368Southern Miss+4½
-112
U 47½
-105
02:00 PM
389UL Monroe+3½
-105
O 60½
-110
390Texas State+1 Markets-3½
-115
U 60½
-110
02:00 PM
401California-12
-110
O 50
-115
402Arizona+1 Markets+12
-110
U 50
-105
02:30 PM
327Wisconsin-11½
-110
O 38
-105
328Rutgers+1 Markets+11½
-110
U 38
-115
02:30 PM
347Tulsa+22½
-115
O 55
-110
348Cincinnati+1 Markets-22½
-105
U 55
-110
02:30 PM
357Baylor-6½
-110
O 58½
-110
358TCU+1 Markets+6½
-110
U 58½
-110
02:30 PM
359Penn State-10½
-110
O 53½
-115
360Maryland+1 Markets+10½
-110
U 53½
-105
02:30 PM
369Missouri+38
-110
O 59
-105
370Georgia+1 Markets-38
-110
U 59
-115
02:30 PM
379Navy+20½
-110
O 47½
-105
380Notre Dame-20½
-110
U 47½
-115
02:30 PM
381South Alabama+3½
-110
O 48½
-105
382Troy-3½
-110
U 48½
-115
02:30 PM
383Rice+3½
-110
O 53
-105
384Charlotte-3½
-110
U 53
-115
02:30 PM
385Oklahoma State-3
-110
O 49
-110
386West Virginia+1 Markets+3
-110
U 49
-110
02:30 PM
393Michigan State-3
-105
O 51
-115
394Purdue+1 Markets+3
-115
U 51
-105
02:30 PM
395Auburn+4½
-110
O 50
-110
396Texas A&M+1 Markets-4½
-110
U 50
-110
02:30 PM
397Middle Tennessee State+15
-110
O 67½
-110
398Western Kentucky-15
-110
U 67½
-110
02:30 PM
403Colorado State-3
-120
O 40½
-115
404Wyoming+3
+100
U 40½
-105
03:00 PM
323NC State-3
-105
O 55
-115
324Florida State+1 Markets+3
-115
U 55
-105
03:00 PM
343Tulane+13
-110
O 60
-105
344Central Florida+1 Markets-13
-110
U 60
-115
03:00 PM
361Utah State-17
-110
O 69½
-115
362New Mexico State+1 Markets+17
-110
U 69½
-105
03:00 PM
375Mississippi State+5½
-117
O 55½
-105
376Arkansas+1 Markets-5½
-103
U 55½
-115
05:00 PM
341Coastal Carolina-18½
-110
O 60½
-115
342Georgia Southern+18½
-110
U 60½
-105
05:00 PM
407Marshall-2
-110
O 57½
-110
408Florida Atlantic+2
-110
U 57½
-110
06:00 PM
333Iowa-12½
-105
O 40
-110
334Northwestern+1 Markets+12½
-115
U 40
-110
06:00 PM
363Oregon State-10½
-110
O 53½
-110
364Colorado+1 Markets+10½
-110
U 53½
-110
06:00 PM
387Tennessee+3
-110
O 58½
-110
388Kentucky+1 Markets-3
-110
U 58½
-110
06:00 PM
409Boise State+5½
-115
O 57½
-115
410Fresno State-5½
-105
U 57½
-105
06:00 PM
411UNLV+1
-107
O 45½
-110
412New Mexico-1
-113
U 45½
-110
06:00 PM
413Old Dominion-1½
-115
O 52½
-110
414Florida International+1½
-105
U 52½
-110
06:00 PM
415LSU+28
-105
O 66
-105
416Alabama+1 Markets-28
-115
U 66
-115
06:30 PM
329Clemson-3½
-105
O 46
-115
330Louisville+1 Markets+3½
-115
U 46
-105
06:30 PM
335Houston-13
-110
O 54½
-105
336South Florida+1 Markets+13
-110
U 54½
-115
06:30 PM
337Indiana+19½
+100
O 51
-110
338Michigan+1 Markets-19½
-120
U 51
-110
06:30 PM
351Florida-19
-110
O 52½
-110
352South Carolina+1 Markets+19
-110
U 52½
-110
06:30 PM
391Texas+7
-110
O 60
-105
392Iowa State+1 Markets-7
-110
U 60
-115
06:30 PM
399Oregon-6½
-110
O 50
-110
400Washington+1 Markets+6½
-110
U 50
-110
10:00 PM
417San Jose State+10
-115
O 53½
-115
418Nevada+1 Markets-10
-105
U 53½
-105
10:15 PM
405UTSA-12
-115
O 52
-115
406UTEP+1 Markets+12
-105
U 52
-105
10:30 PM
365USC+8
-110
O 58½
-110
366Arizona State+1 Markets-8
-110
U 58½
-110
11:00 PM
419San Diego State-7
-110
O 47½
-105
420Hawaii+1 Markets+7
-110
U 47½
-115
 
As much as I hate to say this, the trees plus the points may be the play. Utah's defense just hasn't shown up on the road yet this season. However, the offense just keeps getting better. I'd be shocked if this isn't a last possession game.
 
Indiana + after that Michigan loss?
The weird part here is the 6 days heads up for a night game..odd selection here vs a bad IU team. I can't see a very enthused crowd or team that is ultra fired up...

First inclination is something like 27-10.
 
Ole Miss had 5 trips into the red zone in the second half and came away with only 3 points against auburn. I’ll be on the aggies team total over 27ish fairly large.
 
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No Big Ten thread yet, I'll put this here. Kinda cool. Grit Factory written in black sharpie on trucker hat. Wisconsin D's turnover hat

 
Dogs will be barking IMO. Leans:

Northern Illinois +3.5
CMU/WMU under 66.5
@Hawaii +7
Navy +20.5
@Nebraska +15
M Tenn St +15
Texas +6.5
Liberty +9
@Louisville +4
Wake Forest +2.5
Florida State +3
@Arizona State -9
Boise +5
@So. Florida +13.5
@Florida Atlantic +1.5
@Georgia Southern +20
Cincinaltti -22.5
 
be aware of ville, i would like them also if Cunningham is healthy but im not sure he will be, he was a shell of himself in the 4th qrtr the ncst game last week after he hurt his leg. Id assume he plays but not sure if he be nearly as effective running or passing as he was crazy inaccurate after the injury last week,
 
be aware of ville, i would like them also if Cunningham is healthy but im not sure he will be, he was a shell of himself in the 4th qrtr the ncst game last week after he hurt his leg. Id assume he plays but not sure if he be nearly as effective running or passing as he was crazy inaccurate after the injury last week,

Louisville injury report has only one update so far this week (Clark CB questionable). We'll see if it changes with any info on Cunningham.

If he plays, I love me some of that +3.5 at home. Even though Louisville is 1-3 in the last 4 weeks, their ratings have been creeping slightly up due to how close the games have been against good competition. The D performance has not been anything to be proud of but it is getting better.

Excluding the 4Q vs NC St when the game got away from them, they've been playing well.
 
Louisville injury report has only one update so far this week (Clark CB questionable). We'll see if it changes with any info on Cunningham.

If he plays, I love me some of that +3.5 at home. Even though Louisville is 1-3 in the last 4 weeks, their ratings have been creeping slightly up due to how close the games have been against good competition. The D performance has not been anything to be proud of but it is getting better.

Excluding the 4Q vs NC St when the game got away from them, they've been playing well.

I agree They been really good. I thought they were the better team last week until Cunningham came up limping. After that he couldn’t sustain any drives, the d got put in bad positions, and left out there most the 4th qrtr. I will say maybe 1st half makes a little more sense, they have had pretty large win share going into the 4th of the last 3 games and blown them all, Cunningham didn’t gst hurt in all of them! he does do a ton for the offense tho so it possible he gets gassed late in games?

Wasnt a fan of sattterfield play calling at all in the uva game. 4th and short up 3 amd he elects to kick a fg to go up fucking 6, as if that was doing any damn good! Everyone watching knew they couldn’t stop Uva offense in the 4th so he basically handed them the game, get the 2 yards with one the best running qbs in the country and the game was over! Crszy as it sounds even if they would have got stuffed it still woulda gave them a better chance to win cause uva went for it twice on 4th down in last minute, had it been a 3 point game they most likely tie it up and go fo ot! I really liked satterfield when he took over at ville but he makes me scratch my head quite a bit and his offense isn’t any more than telling Cunningham to run around and make a play!!

The problem w this game is Cunningham 100% will play, we just don’t have any way of knowing how effective he be before the game!
 
Lol. No, I saw they got shut out last week as a 19-point favorite. Thought it must have been a lookahead.

I was liking that angle as well. Plus Harvard was off the controversial bad call OT loss the game prior.

So I played Dartmouth 1st H, but washed with a Harvard 2nd H play. Was a pretty good football game.
 
Mike Rose, LB for Iowa State, missed last week. He is pretty big part of their D. Sounds like he is trending towards playing this week.
 
i sure was hoping to get closer to +17 with Nebraska but still lean this way with +15.. osu defensive "improvement" has came against a bunch of scrubs, psu last week wasnt a great example either since they have shown no ability to run the ball all season. Since the gophers then the Ducks destroyed them on the ground osu hasnt faced another team capable of attacking their run d. i dont watch a lot of nebraska games but im assuming they run a lot of the zone read and rpo game that gave osu nightmares against both minny and oregon? Is that correct, nebraska runs a lot of both with martinez? if so then i think it really just comes down to if we can trust Martinez to not be a freaking turnover machine as he can be at times, hopefully he got it out his system last week!! pretty tempting getting more than 2tds with a team i think will have a lot of success running the ball which should open up passing lanes.
 
i sure was hoping to get closer to +17 with Nebraska but still lean this way with +15.. osu defensive "improvement" has came against a bunch of scrubs, psu last week wasnt a great example either since they have shown no ability to run the ball all season. Since the gophers then the Ducks destroyed them on the ground osu hasnt faced another team capable of attacking their run d. i dont watch a lot of nebraska games but im assuming they run a lot of the zone read and rpo game that gave osu nightmares against both minny and oregon? Is that correct, nebraska runs a lot of both with martinez? if so then i think it really just comes down to if we can trust Martinez to not be a freaking turnover machine as he can be at times, hopefully he got it out his system last week!! pretty tempting getting more than 2tds with a team i think will have a lot of success running the ball which should open up passing lanes.
OSU is playing a bunch of guys on defense that they didn't against Oregon. Young, Chambers, Hickman, Shaw, Banks, Cam Brown are all playing big roles defensively and were basically not playing at all or barely at all vs. Oregon. It's a much different defense, and being called by a different D coordinator. If you want to say they still suck, well OK, but it ain't the same Jimmies and Joes.

I personally think Nebraska is going to get rolled into the bushes. I think it might be the last nail in Frost's coffin when they beat the pants off the Huskers.
 
OSU is playing a bunch of guys on defense that they didn't against Oregon. Young, Chambers, Hickman, Shaw, Banks, Cam Brown are all playing big roles defensively and were basically not playing at all or barely at all vs. Oregon. It's a much different defense, and being called by a different D coordinator. If you want to say they still suck, well OK, but it ain't the same Jimmies and Joes.

I personally think Nebraska is going to get rolled into the bushes. I think it might be the last nail in Frost's coffin when they beat the pants off the Huskers.

I don’t think I said they suck, did I? I said we have no way to know if the defense is really improved from those games or not. just cause they different doesn’t mean they better and there just nothing to go off to know if they now more capable of handling that kind of run game cause we havnt seen them face any.

You can think whatever ya want, might happen, speaking of suck Nebraska kinda fits that term. It really hard to trust them, Martinez could turn it over 3-4x and you be right if get ugly, thing is I don’t trust osu defense yet either, maybe all the changes pay off, maybe they no better, how do we know? They certainly havnt faced any offensive attacks that could answer those questions. My question would be if the new players and schemes are so much better why didn’t they start the year using them? I gotta see it before I believe it improved and we havnt had the chance as of yet. All I saw was a one dimensional psu throw for 360.
 
I don’t think I said they suck, did I? I said we have no way to know if the defense is really improved from those games or not. just cause they different doesn’t mean they better and there just nothing to go off to know if they now more capable of handling that kind of run game cause we havnt seen them face any.

You can think whatever ya want, might happen, speaking of suck Nebraska kinda fits that term. It really hard to trust them, Martinez could turn it over 3-4x and you be right if get ugly, thing is I don’t trust osu defense yet either, maybe all the changes pay off, maybe they no better, how do we know? They certainly havnt faced any offensive attacks that could answer those questions. My question would be if the new players and schemes are so much better why didn’t they start the year using them? I gotta see it before I believe it improved and we havnt had the chance as of yet. All I saw was a one dimensional psu throw for 360.
Because Ryan Day isn't a great coach. He's a good coach and defensive talent evaluation is far from his strong suit. I think they are better, Oregon was gashing them with plays that good coaching would have solved...setting the edge, proper alignment, crack and replace etc.
I can't prove they're better, I might be wrong. I do think Nebraska sucks.
 
Because Ryan Day isn't a great coach. He's a good coach and defensive talent evaluation is far from his strong suit. I think they are better, Oregon was gashing them with plays that good coaching would have solved...setting the edge, proper alignment, crack and replace etc.
I can't prove they're better, I might be wrong. I do think Nebraska sucks.

They might be, I just don’t know if they are, especially when it comes to rpo and zone read. We will find out since they have bunch of strong rushing teams in front of them!! I’m still nervous bout backing Nebraska cause Martinez a turnover waiting to happen, he coughs it up a few times and they prob will get boat raced. Nebraska is kinda like the NFL lions, they play their asses off when they face the better teams, then ppl think that means they should beat lessor teams but they almost never play well against them!! Could be they go in tank after losing as a fav yet again last week, that concerns me, they basically lost any chance to go to a bowl last week. I kinda just thought bout that, now I gotta think some more/try and do some reading bout the mindset around Lincoln. Lol. Fuck.
 
Where our resident huskers fan at? I need to know if we gonna continue getting effort out of them!
 
“I’ve grown to hate these Friday games,” Shaw said. “I absolutely hate them. I don’t think they’re fair to the coaches, I don’t think they’re especially fair to the student-athletes. You don’t have enough time for your bodies to recover.”

Is there a way to easily find out Stanford's or Utah's records on Friday night games SU and ATS or can somebody post it?
 
Is there a way to easily find out Stanford's or Utah's records on Friday night games SU and ATS or can somebody post it?

All I know is last one trees played their team total under cashed. No idea outside this year.
 
is there any reason not to lay -6.5 with Baylor? I can’t imagine firing Peterson is gonna make tcu play better.
 
is there any reason not to lay -6.5 with Baylor? I can’t imagine firing Peterson is gonna make tcu play better.

People have been throwing around an angle that teams after firing coach win. We need longer term context. People citing USC, Washington State, Georgia Southern as teams who won next game. UConn, LSU (announced after Florida game), Texas Tech all lost next game. So it's 3-3 this year. People being selective when they say that. Some might try to include LSU as a win implying it was known before that game by player? I don't know.
 
People have been throwing around an angle that teams after firing coach win. We need longer term context. People citing USC, Washington State, Georgia Southern as teams who won next game. UConn, LSU (announced after Florida game), Texas Tech all lost next game. So it's 3-3 this year. People being selective when they say that. Some might try to include LSU as a win implying it was known before that game by player? I don't know.
Yeah I'd heard LSU did the deed on Thursday prior to Florida and the players were well aware, they just didn't make it public til after the game.
 
Yeah I'd heard LSU did the deed on Thursday prior to Florida and the players were well aware, they just didn't make it public til after the game.

So 4-2. Thanks. I don't think any of us would hang our hat on that. Some historical examples would be good perhaps.
 
People have been throwing around an angle that teams after firing coach win. We need longer term context. People citing USC, Washington State, Georgia Southern as teams who won next game. UConn, LSU (announced after Florida game), Texas Tech all lost next game. So it's 3-3 this year. People being selective when they say that. Some might try to include LSU as a win implying it was known before that game by player? I don't know.

I’d think lsu a different situation tho, O stayed and kids played for him. I dunno why firing a coach like Patterson would help them play any better? He built that program. If they woulda came out and said it his last year then yea, i be concerned. Being unceremoniously fired at this time I wouldn’t think fired up the kids.

I’m not big on all these angles anyways. For most part I just cap them and bet where I see value.
 
I’d be more worried bout the sandwich spot for Baylor than firing Patterson making tcu play better. Even with the spot tcu just so freaking bad. Next week don’t mean much to Baylor if they lose this week.
 
ive only just kinda dabbled with ncaa props (been going all out with nfl and nba this year), but think i see a pretty good one in the ol piss/liberty game. Malik Willis over 64.5 rushing yards,, you know Willis is gonna want to show out on this stage so i would expect plenty of carries. when rebs have faced a team with mobile qbs they have had problems keeping them bottled up. against vols hooker went for 108 on the ground! jefferson went for 85, cunningham went for 79 in what i think was one of rebs best defensive performances, last week Nix rushed 8x for 30 yards and 2 tds, i dont think Nix is anywhere close to the class of the others but he still had success when he did take off. LIberty hasnt been very good protecting Willis against mostly bad teams and rebs have the ability to get pressure which i think would entice Willis to have to take off even more often, he has smashed this number in 5 of the 9 games but i dont think the incentive to run much was there in games against cambell or umass so then we at 5 of the 7 games where liberty needed his running ability and certainly think they will need it here, unt did bottle him up a few weeks ago but i just dont think that gonna happen on this stage, seems inevitable he gonna have at least 12-15 attempts in this one and considering what rebs have given up to qbs in his class as a runner he should fly over the number..
 
i normally wouldnt tease ncaa fb, hell i barely tease nfl anymore like i used to. but a army+8.5/u44.5 teaser seems like money!
 
any reason not to lay the -24 with k-st? does ku have another performance like they had against a flat Ou in them? i really dont think so, vaughn should go nuts on this ku run defense which is almost as bad as mizzou!!
 
Wish me luck. I meant to submit a $27 six-team parlay, but I fat-fingered it and entered it for $327. To win $15,336.

Clem -3.5 / K St -23.5 / Ohio St -13.5 / Ala -28 / Navy over 47.5 / UTEP +11.5

Damn. Wish I would have did that with the +2625 parlay I hit tonight that I had 15 bucks on! That woulda been freaking awesome!! Never works out that way does it? Hope it does for you pal, even tho I like Nebraska amd the army under. I’m assuming your fat finger struck again and you have over 37.5 not 47? Lol
 
So Mizzu is 0-8 ATS and they are catching almost 40pts from #1 Georgia who played Florida last week, goes to a capable Tennessee next week and then play in-state rival Georgia Tech before the SEC championship. Georgia just wants to coast to a victory here and stay healthy. I would expect the clock to run a bunch in this game and Mizzu to get their first cover. 35-3 sounds good to me.
 
So Mizzu is 0-8 ATS and they are catching almost 40pts from #1 Georgia who played Florida last week, goes to a capable Tennessee next week and then play in-state rival Georgia Tech before the SEC championship. Georgia just wants to coast to a victory here and stay healthy. I would expect the clock to run a bunch in this game and Mizzu to get their first cover. 35-3 sounds good to me.

It's not a bad look. Think it was McElroy or somebody echoing comments from Eli that they will need a mobile QB today vs Georgia, so not have Bazelak today might not be the worst thing or something to that effect. Hard for me to think Georgia doesn't crack 40, but come 4th Q with a half empty stadium and Georgia playing 3rd stringers Mizzou should have a shot at squeezing in back door.
 
any reason not to lay the -24 with k-st? does ku have another performance like they had against a flat Ou in them? i really dont think so, vaughn should go nuts on this ku run defense which is almost as bad as mizzou!!

Last year's game was really weird. I think Kansas State scored atleast 2 non-offensive TDs, but maybe more. I didn't look but seem to remember it. I did look at a condensed box score Kansas State won 55-14, but only outgained them 381-320 61-78 plays. K St only ran for 35-129 on them. But that is kind of how Kansas can lose. They can lose so many different ways. Last week, Ok St had a bunch of short fields and stuff, and they also put up 55 pts like K St did last year, but instead of only outgaining KU like State did last year by 61 yards, OK St outgained them by 392 yards!
 
Damn. Wish I would have did that with the +2625 parlay I hit tonight that I had 15 bucks on! That woulda been freaking awesome!! Never works out that way does it? Hope it does for you pal, even tho I like Nebraska amd the army under. I’m assuming your fat finger struck again and you have over 37.5 not 47? Lol
It's the Notre Dame/Navy over.
 
It's not a bad look. Think it was McElroy or somebody echoing comments from Eli that they will need a mobile QB today vs Georgia, so not have Bazelak today might not be the worst thing or something to that effect. Hard for me to think Georgia doesn't crack 40, but come 4th Q with a half empty stadium and Georgia playing 3rd stringers Mizzou should have a shot at squeezing in back door.
Maybe the 2H under is a play.
 
It's not a bad look. Think it was McElroy or somebody echoing comments from Eli that they will need a mobile QB today vs Georgia, so not have Bazelak today might not be the worst thing or something to that effect. Hard for me to think Georgia doesn't crack 40, but come 4th Q with a half empty stadium and Georgia playing 3rd stringers Mizzou should have a shot at squeezing in back door.
Did not know about the QB. That clinches it. I'm on UGA 1H.
 
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