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Breaking it down briefly
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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
7:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>501 Washington Wizards
502 Atlanta Hawks

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>254
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</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>201.5 -105
-10-105

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-9+100

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-10-110

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
7:35P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>505 Cleveland Cavaliers
506 Detroit Pistons

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>254
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>40%
60%

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</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>70%
30%

</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>20%
80%

</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>194u-112
-3.5-103

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>192.5u-107
-3.5-108

</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>192 -110
-3.5-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>192.5 -110
-3.5-110

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-3.5-110

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-3.5-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>192.5 -110
-3.5-110

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
7:35P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>503 Toronto Raptors
504 Miami Heat

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
8:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>511 Sacramento Kings
512 New Orleans Hornets

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>95
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</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>192.5 -105
-13-105

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>192.5o-112
-13-109

</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>192.5 -110
-13-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>192.5 -110
-13-110

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</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>192.5 -110
-13-110

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
8:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>513 Dallas Mavericks
514 Houston Rockets

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
8:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>507 Philadelphia 76ers
508 Minnesota Timberwolves

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>214
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>90%
10%

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</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>92%
8%

</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>77%
23%

</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>-3-107
188 -105

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>-3-113
189o-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>-3.5-110
188.5 -110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb18_0 width=60>-3-110
188 -110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb13_0 width=60>-3.5-110
188.5 -110

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189o-110u+100

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189 -110

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
8:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>509 Los Angeles Clippers
510 Oklahoma City Thunder

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>135
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>69%
31%

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</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>62%
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</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>10%
90%

</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>189 -105
-1.5-103

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>188.5u-106
-1.5-111

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-1.5-110

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-1.5-110

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-1.5-110

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-1.5-110

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-1.5-110

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
8:35P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>515 Denver Nuggets
516 San Antonio Spurs

</TD><TD id=bets width=45>174
</TD><TD id=spreadpct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>87%
13%

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</TD><TD id=parlaypct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>92%
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</TD><TD id=oupct style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ccff66" width=40>75%
25%

</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>-1.5-105
179.5u-108

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>-1.5-111
179.5u-108

</TD><TD class=open id=sb9_0 width=60>-1.5-110
179.5 -110

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179.5 -110

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179.5 -110

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</TD><TD class=open id=sb6_0 width=60>-1.5-110
179.5 -110

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9:05P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>517 Milwaukee Bucks
518 Utah Jazz

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</TD><TD id=score width=50>11/19
10:35P
</TD><TD id=team width=135>519 Chicago Bulls
520 Portland Trail Blazers

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</TD><TD class=linebox style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #faf39e" width=60>191.5 -105
-5-110

</TD><TD class=open id=sb2_0 width=60>191.5o-112
-6-108

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-5-110

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Leans :

Bulls +5 or better : Portland returns home from a 5 game trip and the Bulls are just incredibly undervalued at this point . I fell for the Lakers today and well cant believe I laid 13 well went 1st H and 2nd H but you get the point . This should be about -3.5 IMO . Main reasoning is I think the line is a tad high and the situation team playing with no rest off a 5 game road trip .

LAC 1st H and game : I am a glutton for punishment but look at the CLippers schedule . Then look at OKC . Its a joke and they rarely lose by less then 10 pts .

Nuggets -1.5 or ML : Credit SA for keeping it together while they are shorthanded but Denver is playing well and winning . SA just played a bunch of weak teams outside Houston who they stole one vs late.

Cavs +3.5 : DOnt like DET coming hoem from a 4 game trip despite 2 days off and playing at home then @ Boston the following day . Boston smoked them so I am sure they have that game circled and I think they win SU. Celts are very beatable right now . Cle is just finding ways to win games and hard to fade DET at home but lean the King James boys....:cheers:



 
Thinking Bucks first quarter, first half and game for a total investment of 2 units. A lot of things matching together for this one.
 
Toatally agree with Den. Spurs just had a few lucky breaks. I'm liking Philly, 3 consecutive wins. Are they finally turning it around?

Logic of clippers is good, but think they've burned me more than enough this season for me to even consider looking at them

Cleveland game is fun fun to watch but I honestly think it's a tossup.
 
Like Bucks 1st Q and maybe 1st H but shorthanded team playing B2B after Denver . Think they fall apart in the 2nd Half . Let see what line we get -10 I would guess. To many ATS wins for them lately . Though I had Denver 1st H and -8.5 game today so depends on where you caught it .

Playing cautiously with Philly and Minny . Wolves cant finish a game and they have blown probably 4 or 5 wins already . Not sure I trust Sixers laying road chalk yet .

I am sur eit wont take long for me to post LAC sucks tmrw....

GL fellas !
 
Bobcat Starters vs Dallas

<TABLE class=bobcatsBar style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="99%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=playerStatTitle style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase" colSpan=15 height=20>Charlotte Bobcats (3-7)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=pTitle style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="99%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=pHeaders align=middle height=12><TH colSpan=3></TH><TH align=middle colSpan=3>Field Goals</TH><TH></TH><TH align=middle colSpan=3>Rebounds</TH><TH colSpan=7></TH></TR><TR class=pHeaders vAlign=center align=center; height=12><TH></TH><TH>pos</TH><TH>min</TH><TH>fgm-a</TH><TH>3pm-a</TH><TH>ftm-a</TH><TH>+/-</TH><TH>off</TH><TH>def</TH><TH>tot</TH><TH>ast</TH><TH>pf</TH><TH>st</TH><TH>to</TH><TH>bs</TH><TH>ba</TH><TH>pts</TH></TR><TR class=playerStats vAlign=center height=17><TD class=playerName align=left>G.Wallace </TD><TD>F</TD><TD>32:27</TD><TD>3-13</TD><TD>0-2</TD><TD>2-2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=playerStats vAlign=center height=17><TD class=playerName align=left>S.May </TD><TD>F</TD><TD>12:21</TD><TD>0-2</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>-11</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=playerStats vAlign=center height=17><TD class=playerName align=left>E.Okafor </TD><TD>C</TD><TD>27:46</TD><TD>2-6</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>1-4</TD><TD>-22</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=playerStatsHover vAlign=center height=17><TD class=playerName align=left>M.Carroll </TD><TD>G</TD><TD>11:59</TD><TD>1-4</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>-17</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR class=playerStats vAlign=center height=17><TD class=playerName align=left>R.Felton </TD><TD>G</TD><TD>35:34</TD><TD>3-14</TD><TD>0-1</TD><TD>5-5</TD><TD>-10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>11</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Actually let me be honest. No way in the world could I play Denver tomorrow and if it goes up will be forced to bet the Spurs ML. Out of Fire comes Steel. Seems one way of describing the Spurs now. Denver on not only a worst 5 in 7 but also this will be 9 games without 2 days off. I know Spurs are suffering from a similar situation but they are the ones with a day off and their secondary players are starting to come alive. They Believe and that is tough to bet against along with a great coach.
 
SportsNut check my thread from yesterday. I talk in more detail about the Bucks play there.
 
Sixers on 3 days rest so with them being +1/2 or +1 for the 1st Q like the Wolves alot . Also lean Minny 1st H and game possibly . Not believing in Philly yet they won@ Tor which was "payback" for the opener , won @ Indy on a huge comeback by 2 and then blasted OKC who was playing 5th game in 7 days . Other then that they blasted two terrible defenses in Sac and NYK. Wolves 4-1 L5 at home vs Philly with the lone loss by a deuce . Wolves lost by 5 ,4 and 10 at home to Portland , SA and Dallas and biggest defecit was down 4 at H vs Dallas thanks to a terrible 1st Q .

Hornets also on 3 days rest and Sac playing B2B so looking at Kings 1st Quarter . However with the defense SAC has played on the road find it hard to believe NO doesnt blast them here . SAC has never played well @ NO and am I sure Hornets remember losing the L2 tough ones of last season @ Arco. Great spot for NOH to end their slide ATS which has seen them go 0-5-1 ATS L6.


Strong Play on NOH -13 .

Strong Lean to Wolves 1st Q and 1st H .

Small lean to Kings 1st Q .

Also interested in SA over 179.5

:cheers:




 
SportsNut check my thread from yesterday. I talk in more detail about the Bucks play there.


Thanks Tuck I will . On some level I feel exactly the same way about laying it with Denver but for the most part situational angles have been overpriced IMO this season in terms of spreads. Denver cruised today and MILW was the definition of a backdoor cover IMO . Think Nuggets play everyone 27 minutes or less including their starters. Would be nice to see Denver win with a game to LAL on deck. The thing with SA is the past 4 games they played literally were decided in the final minutes or seconds . :cheers:off to sleep
 
Thanks Tuck I will . On some level I feel exactly the same way about laying it with Denver but for the most part situational angles have been overpriced IMO this season in terms of spreads. Denver cruised today and MILW was the definition of a backdoor cover IMO . Think Nuggets play everyone 27 minutes or less including their starters. Would be nice to see Denver win with a game to LAL on deck. The thing with SA is the past 4 games they played literally were decided in the final minutes or seconds . :cheers:off to sleep

True spurs won, But they did it against teams with no clutch players or teams that goes through droughts when the secondary comes in.
 
Heat open up as 3 pt favs.

The team is close to tuning out Smitch. Either no one is listening out on the court or they have no idea what Smitch expects them to do. Feel bad for Bosh right now.

Prediction: Smitch will be fired and JVG will return to coaching by the new year.

LIke the total to go under 188.
 
Anyone that wants to bet on LAC is got to be on crack, but then again who is the Thunders is to lay points to anyone has got me scratching me balls.

I think Jpicks said it best that the Clippers are playing as if they want to get Dunleavy fired. There's lots of talent on that squad, but watching them is like playing at the local 24 Hour Fitness.....where everyone thinks their MJ. Their lack of fundamentals and lazy defense shows in their body language.

When your down at home to the Spurs (who has a short bench and with Duncan sitting), bringing the ball up and laughing at one another, it shows how serious they are about winning.

I would like to bet Philly, but damm they cost me a lot of $$$. They win games when you least expect it and lose games when they're not supposed to (ex. see Toronto both games). Wolves have Boston on deck AND I would think they'd get up for this game knowing they'll probably lose to the C's. They almost beat a Portland squad on Saturday.
 
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