UFC 86: Jackson vs. Griffin

Well, there's one good thing: this fight is being reffed by the same guy that apparently would've let Lytle bleed to death earlier.
 
Dude, if you can, find a video of the Lytle fight earlier. That was brutal. The guy looked like he was going to bleed to death.
 
ok so i missed the fights last night so i have no idea what happened....

i am downloading it now, so i am hoping to see some good ones!!!!! :box:
 
Earlier in the evening, Melvin Guillard electrified the crowd with a stunning blowout of tough guy Dennis Siver. Guillard dropped Siver four seconds into their lightweight contest with a right hand but the German fighter held on. After a scramble that saw Guillard reload his Gatling gun, Siver walked into a maelstrom of fists and was flattened. Guillard scored a highlight reel knockout in 36 seconds.
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That a boy, Melvin! Representing NOLA well.
 
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That a boy, Melvin! Representing NOLA well.

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mogo said:
just for fun here..... figured i'd get them in so i don't forget...

-- Forrest Griffen +200 $50/100 - gotta give forrest the chance to pull the upset here... never really seen him get beat up too bad and have only ever seen him be a great fighter... he's worthy of a title shot and will show everybody why he won tuf and how he has become a champion!!!

-- Chris Lytle +250 $20/50 - i dont have too much behind this other than not really like josh koscheck's style of fighting... lytle can win this with any punch and i figured i would take a small bet hoping to see kosh get rocked!!!!
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:smiley_acbe:

yeah buddy.... forrest gets win!!! what a true warrior!!!!

knew he was going to give it to rampage and has really come a long way to become world champion....

i should have maybe gone a little on joe daddy like i was thinking, but whatever i'll take my $80 and put it towards all the money i spent this past beautiful Forth of July holiday.... :shake:
 
Forrest Griffin, Quinton Jackson, Melvin Guillard and Cole Miller each earned $60,000 "fight night" bonuses for their performances at UFC 86.

UFC 86 took place Saturday at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and aired live on pay per view. The bonus amounts represented an increase of $10,000 over the $50,000 payouts for winners from June's UFC 85 event.


MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) confirmed the bonuses with sources close to the winning fighters.

New light-heavyweight champion Griffin and Jackson were given Fight of the Night honors for their 25-minute main event battle.

Griffin used a steady dose of leg kicks and jabs to frustrate his opponent throughout the fight. Jackson countered valiantly and visibly rocked Griffin on several occasions. In the end, Jackson's promise of a definitive ending to the bout went unfulfilled, and Griffin took Jackson's belt with a unanimous decision victory.

Guillard, in his first fight back in the UFC since dropping two straight bouts in 2007, took home the evening's Knockout of the Night award.

Despite being the only knockout of the evening, the bout was nevertheless deserving of the honors. Guillard caught Dennis Siver early with a stiff right hand from which Siver never fully recovered. After Guillard wrestled free of a near-arm bar shortly after, Guillard again rocked Siver with a right hand, then caught the German once again on the way to the canvas. A quick flurry of shots followed, and referee Herb Dean called a halt to the action just 36 seconds into the first round.

Miller, a 24-year-old "TUF 5" veteran, battled through adversity with Jorge Gurgel to earn Submission of the Night honors.

In a rousing, back-and-forth battle, Miller forced a Gurgel tap just 12 seconds from the end of a fight that Miller seemed on his way to losing. With the victory, the American Top Team fighter moves to 3-1 in the octagon. The preliminary fight, not seen on pay-per-view, can be viewed free of charge on UFC.com.
 
can anyone upload the fight?

i already know the results but i heard the joe stevenson and the main one were good

:box:
 
MeasyMoney said:
can anyone upload the fight?

i already know the results but i heard the joe stevenson and the main one were good
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Joe Stevenson vs. Gleison Tibau

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I think the Rampage vs Griffin fight is a prime example of why I have succeeded in betting MMA over the last year or so. I am not gloating, and I am not saying this to bask in my own glory as I called for a bet on Griffin +220; I bring this up as an attempt to shed light on betting this relatively new sport.

"Also, as we have leaned during the short history of MMA, underdogs often win. It’s not like boxing where the favorite and/or champion is matched up with a tomato can. Because of this, we’re no longer seeing incredibly long odds for dogs."

That is the quote from a big name in the sports betting industry who, obvious by those words, also recommended a bet on Griffin at over two-to-one. What I am saying is that when there is a fight that no one can see a clear winner and no one would be surprised by either guy winning, then why not take the plus money. It seemed that everyone I spoke to regarding the fight said he would not be surprised with the outcome regardless of the winner. If that is the case and you are being offered +220 on one a side, you should be hard pressed not to bet it.

That's my advice. I'll leave it there.
:cheers:
 
there are a number of things that one needs to look at before betting an underdog in MMA compared to betting the favorite.... favorites still dominate in terms of winning fequency, but it's knowing when to play the underdog in certain situations that can be very profitable....

you could easily be throwing away lots money blindly picking some juicey dogs in MMA... with 9 fights to wager on this card only 2 dogs pulled out wins (Forrest and Buchholz)...

in a rare occurance we also had Cote pull out the win as a +115 dog, but he had actually opened as a -145 favorite - the public money poured in on Almeida and the line did a total flip....

i do agree with your line of thinking in that if you have a fight where nobody would be terribly surprised by one side winning over the other, the dog may be the best play.... its finding those particular fights that can be tough because not every card has them...

but in all honesty i am hardly ever feeling good about betting a dog in MMA (with the exception of maybe the Mir/Lesnar fight where Mir as the +150 or whatever dog really made little to no sense)....
 
UFC 86 salaries: Forrest Griffin earns $250K, Quinton Jackson gets $225K

Main-event winner and new UFC lightweight champion Forrest Griffin earned a base salary of $250,000 at UFC 86, and opponent Quinton Jackson picked up $225,000. The two fighters earned the show's highest base salaries -- and more than half the total payroll.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today obtained the list of official salaries from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

Total payroll for the pay-per-view event, which took place July 5 at the Mandalay Bay Events in Las Vegas, was $943,000.

Griffin and Jackson accounted for 50.4 percent of the payroll.

Also worth noting is that Gabriel Gonzaga earned the event's third-highest payout ($100,000) despite appearing in an un-aired preliminary card.

The full list of salaries included:

Forrest Griffin: $250,000 (includes $150,000 win bonus) def. Quinton Jackson: $225,000

Patrick Cote: $32,000 ($16,000 win bonus) def. Ricardo Almeida: $23,000

Joe Stevenson: $60,000 ($30,000 win bonus) def. Gleison Tibau: $11,000

Josh Koscheck: $70,000 ($35,000 win bonus) def. Chris Lytle: $14,000

Tyson Griffin: $40,000 ($20,000 win bonus) def. Marcus Aurelio: $40,000

Gabriel Gonzaga: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus) def. Justin McCully: $5,000

Cole Miller: $20,000 ($10,000 win bonus) def. Jorge Gurgel: $ 10,000

Melvin Guillard: $20,000 ($10,000 win bonus) def. Dennis Siver: $7,000

Justin Buchholz: $8,000 ($4000 win bonus) def. Corey Hill: $8,000
 
"Griffin vs. Jackson II" is the only real fix

Never let the fight go to the judges.

It is a mantra repeated by all MMA fighters, regardless of organization. This past Saturday night's UFC 86 main event gave us yet another example of why the motto rings so true.

Quinton Jackson and Forrest Griffin's light-heavyweight title clash was the type of contest destined to give any judge fits. Griffin's constant activity was a stark contrast to Jackson's willingness to look for powerful counter-shots.

Griffin undoubtedly scored with greater volume, but he never seemed to have the former champion in any real danger. Even in the one-sided second round, Griffin dominated position throughout but was unable to really hurt Jackson -- aside from the initial sting of an early-round leg kick.

For his part, Jackson did indeed land several solid blows, dropping Griffin in the first round while wobbling the eventual victor on several other occasions throughout the 25-minute affair. But the attack was never sustained long enough to make a real impression with the judges.

At the conclusion of the fight, conspiracy theorists across MMA cyberspace immediately took to their keyboards. The fight has provided nonstop fodder for MMA columnists and radio hosts. Even Jackson's trainer and manager Juanito Ibarra plans to protest the decision with Nevada State Athletic Commission.

A quick study of the judges' official scorecards for the bout can, of course, neither confirm nor disprove any speculation of a predetermined outcome. But it does present another question: how can three trained professionals watch the same fight and record such different observations?

While ringside judges Adalaide Byrd, Nelson Hamilton and Roy Silbert did indeed agree on a victor, each took a very different route to reach their final conclusion:

Round 1

  • Adalaide Byrd: 10-9, Griffin
  • Nelson Hamilton: 10-9, Jackson
  • Roy Silbert: 10-9, Griffin
Round 2

  • Byrd: 10-8, Griffin
  • Hamilton: 10-8, Griffin
  • Silbert: 10-9, Griffin
Round 3

  • Byrd: 10-9, Griffin
  • Hamilton: 10-9, Griffin
  • Silbert: 10-9, Griffin
Round 4

  • Byrd: 10-9, Jackson
  • Hamilton: 10-9, Jackson
  • Silbert: 10-9, Jackson
Round 5

  • Byrd: 10-9, Jackson
  • Hamilton: 10-9, Griffin
  • Silbert: 10-9, Griffin
Fight Results

  • Byrd: 48-46, Griffin
  • Hamilton: 48-46, Griffin
  • Silbert: 49-46, Griffin
A mixed bag of opinions to say the least.

In light of this past week's decision by the Association of Boxing Commissions to ratify the unified rules of mixed martial arts to add an assortment of weight classes for which nobody was really clamoring, perhaps those officials' time would be better spent on correcting a judging system that has its flaws exposed on a near-weekly basis.

Instead, the heartwarming, rags-to-riches story of good ol' boy Forrest Griffin's meteoric rise to the top is being ignored in order to debate the validity of his victory -- not to mention the prevalent questioning of the integrity of the UFC as an organization, and the sport of MMA as a whole.

In the end, the process by which MMA judging operates will take some time to revamp, but there is a simple, quick solution to resolve the confusion of Saturday's proceedings.

Despite the myriad of interesting match-ups now available for both fighters in the UFC's light-heavyweight division, there is really only one that matters. With no disrespect to current contenders Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell, Rashad Evans, Wanderlei Silva and others, new title-holder Griffin and dethroned ex-champion Jackson need a definitive ending to Saturday night's epic battle.

If not for them, then for the vast MMA community forced to discuss and debate the decision of Saturday night rather than revel in what should be one of the year's greatest storylines.
 
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