Thursday Discussion Thread

[VirginiaCavs]

Jul 7 Thu 2022

02:10 PM
917	Kansas City RoyalsK. Bubic -L	+1½ +135	+283	O 8 -115
918	Houston AstrosJ. Verlander -R	-1½ -155	-320	U 8 -105

07:10 PM
921	New York YankeesG. Cole -R	-1½ +100	-158	O 8½ -110
922	Boston Red SoxJ. Winckowski -R	+1½ -120	+146	U 8½ -110

07:20 PM
909	St. Louis CardinalsM. Liberatore -L	+1½ -115	+179	O 9 -115
910	Atlanta BravesS. Strider -R	-1½ -105	-195	U 9 -105

08:10 PM
923	Detroit TigersB. Brieske -R	+1½ -105	+208	O 8½ -110
924	Chicago White SoxD. Cease -R	-1½ -115	-230	U 8½ -110

09:40 PM
913	San Francisco GiantsL. Webb -R	+1½ -195	+113	O 6½ -115
914	San Diego PadresJ. Musgrove -R	-1½ +170	-123	U 6½ -105

10:10 PM
915	Chicago CubsM. Leiter -R	+1½ +110	+233	O 8½ -105
916	Los Angeles DodgersT. Gonsolin -R	-1½ -130	-260	U 8½ -115

 

[2daBank]

These wussies only have 2 games w pitcher props. I’ve gotten to the point I rather they not put them out until morning so I don’t have anyone else betting them before I get a chance! Tonight the exception cause I gotta be at hospital at 10am, book opens at 9am and they only like 10min apart so plan on finishing card tonight, going and making bets then going over to hospital. I been just making my number on as many pitchers I can so I can quickly figure out who gonna be a play once they come out, of course there ends up being 1-2-3 I wasnt paying attention to that get soft numbers attached!!! Won’t have time for that shit tho!! Cmon DK, just put these things up so I can make money while my eye is getting pumped full of gas!!!

 

[2daBank]

it’s JV turn to see if he can cool down the kc offense (feels weird saying that, lol)! So far royals have roughed up garcia and Javier (as predicted ) after starting the series knocking Oderizzi around fresh off the IL, before coming to houston they beat up Skubal in the rubber match against the tigers. You could really make the case KC could be going for the sweep against houston today! They have jumped out in all 3 games but the pitching couldn’t hold the 1st 2 after finally holding on last night to actually get the W and snapped Stros winning streak.

Verlander has had a few extra days rest coming into this one, throughout his career that hasn’t made a ton of difference, as you would expect from a HOFer he is pretty good no matter his days rest, night/day, or where he pitchers, with that said he not a spring chicken anymore and this season the extra rest has been helpful. In the 2 games this season he has gotten 6+ he has a .69 era allowing 1 run over 13 innings of work while striking out 15 and only walking 3. He hasn’t faced kc in so long his numbers against them don’t mean much imo. Unlike the sometimes inconsistent Javier last night I think the fact JV has been in excellent form of late bodes well here. He has went 7+ innings in 5 of his last 6, the only exception was a odd series where the white Sox hit rhp out of nowhere and blew him up., I don’t see that happening today, I expect the ageless wonder to give his pen a day off and pitch deep into this game while preventing kc from jumping out to another big lead. Obviously im not playing Stros -330 tho, Kc not a high strikeout team, I could see him fanning 7 just cause I think he goes deep but he hasn’t been punching out a ton lately and only has a 11.2% swinging strike rate on the year, not bad but not elite either. Where I think the value lies today is with JV total outs over 20.5 at a very reasonable -120., fully expected a well rested JV to settle things down and give Stros a 7 inning performance today which takes the cash!

 

[2daBank]

Feel like gotta roll with Braves team total over, can’t make my mind up between the 1st 5 2.5 or game 5.5? I was really hoping for a 4.5 for game so when I saw this number it threw me off, lol. It totally justified, I think cards got ripped off by Rays getting this Liberatore kid, thought it when it happened and now that I’m seeing him unfortunately I think I was correct to worry. My thoughts then were “im skeptical of any team controlled solid pitching prospect Rays would part with, that what makes them good!”.

I think his stuff in itself is probably good enough to be a solid 3-4 spot in rotation guy but something isn’t right w this kid, he not nearly confident enough in his fastball! Until he learns to be pinpoint with his heater (it not dominant enough velo wise not to be) and has the confidence to be able to throw it and get strikes he gonna struggle., he has some good looking off speed with nice spin rates but he too predictable with it, hangs too many, and mlb hitters just too good if you don’t establish a fastball!! He is not ready to be here, I promise the only reason this kid is at triple a cause all cards injuries to the pitching staff!! He has had a few solid looking starts on the surface but they both came against crappy nl central lineups that don’t hit lhp. He facing a really good lefty hitting Braves lineup today who also the best 2 out offense in baseball, think a young pitcher who not ready gonna fare well against a solid group of bats who come thru w 2 outs? I don’t.

Braves FF tt over 2.5

 

[2daBank]

I had no interest trying to figure out what cards were gonna do against Strider? I actually think there a chance they give him one his worst outing as starter so far but I’m not sure, think cards lineup vs Strider a complete guessing game so why even try? I don’t think there much guessing to what Braves should do to a young lhp who shouldn’t be pitching at this level!!

 

[2daBank]

I think it time to go back to one those +1.5/under parlays I been neglecting to focus on since I been so pitcher prop heavy! Not as many pitchers I like going today and they still taking sweet as time w numbers, I like this tho:

Tigers +1.5/under 8 +240

Love the price here. Not sure how tigers are such big dogs today? Brieske is much better than his surface stats might suggest, just go look at some games he has pitched vs some the better offenses this year!! Now he gets the white Sox who we talk bout sucking donkey balls vs rhp all the time, worse righties than this have shit on them that for sure!! Cease filthy, I can’t say tigers gonna light him up even if they hot, that should be great for under! I do think tigers can take good at bats, draw some walks and run his pitch count up! Think we talking a low and close game when the starters leave, tigers pen been really solid so I like their chances to hang right in this one! Maybe they win again but either way I think it close.

 

[2daBank]

Speaking of pitcher props in that same game above. Brieske over 15.5 outs +110 is incredible value imo. Really dunno if we need to make the tigers/under bet, might be smarter to just load up on this!!

 

[askias]

Adon is a train wreck for the Nats at 1-11. Have to fade him on principle, although the Phillies lack of offense yesterday has me nervous. That plus Gosselin tonight is probably it for me.

 

[2daBank]

Adon is a train wreck for the Nats at 1-11. Have to fade him on principle, although the Phillies lack of offense yesterday has me nervous. That plus Gosselin tonight is probably it for me.

You not interested in Braves? You know I’m not laying the juice but man I think they gonna score runs off Liberatore! I think cards might get to Strider also but that more a hunch, no idea what his final line will look like.

 

[2daBank]

There no world where I would suggest backing Mark Leiter jr vs anyone really but I just can’t lay that price against a cubs team who has now taken series off Red Sox, cards, milw recently. I just can’t do it at that number. Gonsilin gonna have a bad gm one these days, I think. Maybe it today, he not a strike out pitcher and striking out cubs biggest issue! Or maybe he exploits cubs swing and miss and does strike a lot out today?? I’m not touching cubs, I just can’t lay it either.,,

 

[2daBank]

It is a crappy card tho. So get it where ya feel good and be done, probably a good idea!! I been at this card for 3-4 hours and I have 3-4 plays I like, that nothing for me!! Lol

 

[askias]

Won with the Braves and Yankees last night per yesterday’s thread. I like Strider today over the Cards, just a little nervous that the Braves let up off the gas having already won three in a row in the series.

 

[askias]

Gonselin hasn’t given up more than 2 runs in a game all season. I’m looking at that primarily.

 

[2daBank]

Gonselin hasn’t given up more than 2 runs in a game all season. I’m looking at that primarily.

I know., I find it so hard to believe! Lol. I don’t blame ya cause who the hell Leiter jr? Some journeyman scrub who mostly pitches out pen when he in majors? It be pretty crazy if he out pitches Gonsilin. I just don’t care for big mlb favs, nothing wrong w it long as ya seii lol selective and don’t bet them like they can’t lose, which I know you pretty smart bout it. I just don’t feel comfy w them, I’m always trying to pick holes.

 

[2daBank]

Just left casino headed to hospital. Here what I put in for the day::

JV ov 20.5 outs
Brieske ov 15.5 outs
Lyles ov 4.5 k’s
Braves Ff tt ov 2.5
Det +1.5/u8
Stl/atl ov 9.5

I hope I can get out of surgery and make a few more cause these Ass hats still didn’t have some pitchers up I interested in. Anyways old lady spazzing trying to find so gotta go. Gl everyone

 

[Ryno14]

Just left casino headed to hospital. Here what I put in for the day::

JV ov 20.5 outs
Brieske ov 15.5 outs
Lyles ov 4.5 k’s
Braves Ff tt ov 2.5
Det +1.5/u8
Stl/atl ov 9.5

I hope I can get out of surgery and make a few more cause these Ass hats still didn’t have some pitchers up I interested in. Anyways old lady spazzing trying to find so gotta go. Gl everyone

Can’t believe no Lib O3.5Ks for you! I’m disappointed. GL in surgery!!

 

[2daBank]

Can’t believe no Lib O3.5Ks for you! I’m disappointed. GL in surgery!!

Really? I’d be afraid he gets knocked out in 2nd inning. I think he sucks, I didn’t like that trade when they made it, I knew something had to be wrong w him, why else would Rays Give up a good young cost cost controlled prospect? They the best in the biz, I knew then they prob got us. Now I’ve seen enough to know they did!! He has good enough stuff but he has no confidence to pitch off his fastball and ppl sit on his off speed he throws a lot and hangs too much!! Maybe one day he be a 3-4 spot in rotation guy but right now the only reason he in the bigs cause all cards injuries at pitcher and fact the Ozuna trade left what should be our aces pitching for fish and snakes!! Man I’d love if we had Alcontera and Gallen!!

 

[2daBank]

Can’t believe I got service here,, didn’t have it in the offices.

 

[JROCK1966]

Played a Marlins +2.5 & Dodgers ML
2–teamer risked $50
BOLTA!

 

[Ryno14]

I was reminded why I hate F5s so much the last 2 days. Losing F5 Unders in bottom of 5 in Indians yesterday and Astros today. Love it

 

[KJ]

Can't see Houston letting JV pitch the 7th, pretty sloppy inning and racked up the PC in the 6th