Thursday 01/14/16 NBA discussion thread

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[divol]

Waited long time for this game. Cleveland ATS and ML...

 

[nbafan88]

Raptors/magic is being played in London, England

 

[divol]

I think that Over is the way to go in London. NBA wants a show, not 87 - 81 type of game...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Global_Games

All games not involving the Knicks - went Over...

Orlando also take this game pretty seriously:

"This trip could help us or hurt us because it's a long trip," guard Evan Fourniersaid. "Toronto's a very good team and if we lose the game, it can kind of break our spirit. We really have to take this trip seriously as professionals."

 

[edou1x]

what a huge line mistake in LAK-GS total of 215!

All 3 refs for tonight are 18-12 U/O, 16-10 U/O and 17-9 U/O , both meetings this season went under by large margin with avg of 192,5pts, 22,5 pts below tonight number.

game is prime time and thursdays prime time game with home team favorite were 58% lifetime few seasons ago.

LAK is 7-1U off a win this season and on 1 day rest lakers are 17-8U

H and line<=-10 and rest=0 and month=1 and total>205 and 2007<=season, the Under is 82% in this situation

 

[edou1x]

by the way like the Jazz, Kings are 0-9 SU in B2B this season, losing by 11pts on the road, whereas jazz are 2-0 in B2B @home winning by 17pts in avg

 

[divol]

I like the Over in Utah tonight. Probably agree on the Under in Oakland, though worried that without Green, GSW got no defense (or at least Denver made it look that way)...

 

[nbafan88]

I don't understand why anyone would lay 17 with the Warriors.

 

[edou1x]

17 is too much despite GS won by more than 30@home vs lakers. still lakers are playing better with more focus on defense, covering 7 of last 9.


i still don't know what to do in spurs-Cavs game concerning the side. at first sight wanted CLE but with 7+ points and not 5.5 plus SA lost last meeting in OT which could irritate the spurs. the total with the under might be more interesting than the side

 

[cogenman]

Raptors/magic is being played in London, England

Interesting. Is this the first time nba is in London? I can't remember any.

 

[divol]

It's an annual thing. One game each season...

 

[edou1x]

TOR-4 might be good , before last meeting they were 9-0 SU vs magic/ They have played twice in London in 2011 and lost twice. so they should be motivated to win this one

 

[nbafan88]

Waited long time for this game. Cleveland ATS and ML...

Why have you been waiting for this?

 

[divol]

Why have you been waiting for this?

Because I waited for Cleveland to visit Oakland and San Antonio to be on them...
Bron usually does well against teams that beat him in the Finals and Cleveland really on the way up. Spurs are amazing, but lately they been really giving up a lot of points. I also feel that the line is a big high, as I expected it to be. Spurs are getting crazy high lines and people slightly sleeping on Cleveland and still haven't realized that they are gaining form and momentum.
On top of it, Spurs struggle against teams with good point guard and in my eyes, Kyrie is the best player in Cleveland roster at the moment.
Spurs losses this season were to Lowry, Wall, Westbrook, Rose and Harden. They also lost to the Pels, where Smith made 17 points and 13 assists off a bench. TP is obviously their weak spot in their defense.
They also been conceding in the last 6 games - 99, 99, 79, 98, 98 and 103 points... 79 against the weak Nets - very high numbers Spurs been conceding lately.
Split a max bet between Cleveland ATS and Cleveland Over 95 points.
Also took small bets on Cleveland ML and Cleveland +10 in a teaser (the other half was the Thunder - so just Cleveland left).

 

[edou1x]

teams in B2B off a game vs nuggets in DENver are just 45%ATS lsince 2007 if they are home favs like GS. it's a divisional game vs lakers and with the 2 big blowout losses this season, lakers would be eager to keep it close. tough to resist temptation to take lakers+17. perhaps it's a trap

 

[Eric8923]

I actually think GSW are the trap. Line opened at 18 and has dropped to 17. with 76% of bets on Golden State. I will be on the Lakers for this reason. Same for the Spurs. 81% on the Cavs and the lined moved from +5 1/2 to +7.

 

[emkee]

Because I waited for Cleveland to visit Oakland and San Antonio to be on them...
Bron usually does well against teams that beat him in the Finals and Cleveland really on the way up. Spurs are amazing, but lately they been really giving up a lot of points. I also feel that the line is a big high, as I expected it to be. Spurs are getting crazy high lines and people slightly sleeping on Cleveland and still haven't realized that they are gaining form and momentum.
On top of it, Spurs struggle against teams with good point guard and in my eyes, Kyrie is the best player in Cleveland roster at the moment.
Spurs losses this season were to Lowry, Wall, Westbrook, Rose and Harden. They also lost to the Pels, where Smith made 17 points and 13 assists off a bench. TP is obviously their weak spot in their defense.
They also been conceding in the last 6 games - 99, 99, 79, 98, 98 and 103 points... 79 against the weak Nets - very high numbers Spurs been conceding lately.
Split a max bet between Cleveland ATS and Cleveland Over 95 points.
Also took small bets on Cleveland ML and Cleveland +10 in a teaser (the other half was the Thunder - so just Cleveland left).

Agree about the Spurs struggling vs solid PG's and that will be their undoing come playoff time.

In this instance I think they grab their last win vs Cleveland for quite sometime, Pops will have a gameplan for tonight.

After that, Cleveland will own this team.

Kyrie been struggling somewhat since coming out about his relationship with Kehlani.

 

[nbafan88]

I actually think GSW are the trap. Line opened at 18 and has dropped to 17. with 76% of bets on Golden State. I will be on the Lakers for this reason. Same for the Spurs. 81% on the Cavs and the lined moved from +5 1/2 to +7.

This is not a good reason to be on the lakers. What do you want the line to open at to not have a majority on the Warriors?


Also, the Spurs opened at -6, moved to -5.5 and moved back up. I'll be on the Spurs.

 

[nbafan88]

I really don't care who they're playing. Going against the Spurs at anything under 7 points at home is just silly IMO. The spurs are the better team as a unit and it's not really that close.

 

[divol]

Agree about the Spurs struggling vs solid PG's and that will be their undoing come playoff time.

In this instance I think they grab their last win vs Cleveland for quite sometime, Pops will have a gameplan for tonight.

After that, Cleveland will own this team.

Kyrie been struggling somewhat since coming out about his relationship with Kehlani.

Would take Blatt, Spoelstra, anyone in this point over Pop for this...
He never cared about regular season too much...

I know that Blatt will try to win as any other coach, but Pop...

Two seasons ago, when Spurs came to Miami, the first time after Heat beat them in Game 7 - also thursday, national TV and so on - Pop sat Kawhi, Manu and others, sending a big FU to the league... I doubt he will go the extra mile here... I could be wrong though...

 

[emkee]

Would take Blatt, Spoelstra, anyone in this point over Pop for this...
He never cared about regular season too much...

I know that Blatt will try to win as any other coach, but Pop...

Two seasons ago, when Spurs came to Miami, the first time after Heat beat them in Game 7 - also thursday, national TV and so on - Pop sat Kawhi, Manu and others, sending a big FU to the league... I doubt he will go the extra mile here... I could be wrong though...

The game you're talking about was all part of Pop's strategy, didn't want his team/starters to get any satisfaction from a regular season game.

He wanted that unbridled hunger to be there come Finals time, should they meet. A regular season win would have negated some of that fire.

Spurs then crushed LeCramps in June.

Dude is a fucking genius.

 

[divol]

No argument there. What I'm saying is that we never know his approach and it's hard to say how they will react. I know 100% that Cleveland will come with huge motivation. I can say it only with 95% certainty about the Spurs...

 

[nbafan88]

The Spurs don't play again until Sunday. That's all you need to know. The Cavs play tomorrow. Lebron got his finals "revenge" already so I don't know why that matters.

 

[nbafan88]

[video=youtube;u4z1IeoGu_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4z1IeoGu_M[/video]


The Pistons haven't forgotten....

still like the grizzlies though

 

[hugh613]

I actually think GSW are the trap. Line opened at 18 and has dropped to 17. with 76% of bets on Golden State. I will be on the Lakers for this reason. Same for the Spurs. 81% on the Cavs and the lined moved from +5 1/2 to +7.

Why would the Warriors be a trap? They've already beaten the Lakers by 34 and 21 this season, and would have beaten them by even more in the 2nd matchup if not for garbage time.

Maybe a 'normal' team would be in a letdown spot, but the Warriors don't switch off against lesser teams (well, other than teams they have trouble with like the Nuggets).

 

[nbafan88]

Why would the Warriors be a trap? They've already beaten the Lakers by 34 and 21 this season, and would have beaten them by even more in the 2nd matchup if not for garbage time.

Maybe a 'normal' team would be in a letdown spot, but the Warriors don't switch off against lesser teams (well, other than teams they have trouble with like the Nuggets).

Curry over 28.5 +125 is a joke of a line

only problem with play warrior props is curry could legitimately sit the entire 4th quarter

 

[hugh613]

Curry over 28.5 +125 is a joke of a line

only problem with play warrior props is curry could legitimately sit the entire 4th quarter

Well, good news for you. Just looked it up: Curry's highest scoring night during his career?

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[TD="align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]333[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]18[/TD]
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Likes the Thursday night TNT spotlight I guess...

 

[nbafan88]

LeBum is tired


The Cavs team work is awful in the 4th. Isolation with no ball movement early in the clock. Playing hero ball.

 

[nbafan88]

What an ending in Utah... congrats over backers