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SUNDAY MORNING COFFEE--Week 5 Line Discussions/Thoughts/Line Predictions..
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RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
101 USM
102 Boise St
<O
</O
233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St<O</O
<O</O
103 WVU<O</O
104 USF<O</O
<O</O
105 Duke<O</O
106 Miami<O</O
<O</O
107 UNC<O</O
108 Va Tech<O</O
<O</O
109 Akron<O</O
110 UConn<O</O
<O</O
111 Indiana<O</O
112 Iowa<O</O
<O</O
113 Mississippi St<O</O
114 South Carolina<O</O
<O</O
115 Temple<O</O
116 Army<O</O
<O</O
117 Air Force<O</O
118 Navy<O</O
<O</O
119 Buffalo<O</O
120 Ball St<O</O
<O</O
121 N. Illinois<O</O
122 CMU<O</O
<O</O
123 Michigan<O</O
124 Northwestern<O</O
<O</O
125 Syracuse<O</O
126 Miami OH<O</O
<O</O
127 Utah St<O</O
128 Utah<O</O
<O</O
129 Cal<O</O
130 Oregon<O</O
<O</O
131 Alabama<O</O
132 Florida St<O</O
<O</O
133 Mississippi<O</O
134 Georgia<O</O
<O</O
135 Auburn<O</O
136 Florida<O</O
<O</O
137 UCLA<O</O
138 Oregon St<O</O
<O</O
139 Penn St<O</O
140 Illinois<O</O
<O</O
141 Michigan St<O</O
142 Wisconsin<O</O
<O</O
143 Iowa St<O</O
144 Nebraska<O</O
<O</O
145 Kansas St<O</O
146 Texas<O</O
<O</O
147 UNLV<O</O
148 Nevada<O</O
<O</O
149 UTEP<O</O
150 SMU<O</O
<O</O
151 Hawaii<O</O
152 Idaho<O</O
<O</O
153 LSU<O</O
154 Tulane<O</O
<O</O
155 Colorado St<O</O
156 TCU<O</O
<O</O
157 EMU<O</O
158 Vanderbilt<O</O
<O</O
159 WMU<O</O
160 Toledo<O</O
161 Kent St<O</O
162 Ohio<O</O
<O</O
163 Oklahoma<O</O
164 Colorado<O</O
<O</O
165 Baylor<O</O
166 Texas A&M<O</O
<O</O
167 Pittsburgh<O</O
168 Virginia<O</O
<O</O
169 ECU<O</O
170 Houston<O</O
<O</O
171 UAB<O</O
172 Tulsa<O</O
<O</O
173 Louisville<O</O
174 NC State<O</O
<O</O
175 Clemson<O</O
176 Georgia Tech<O</O
<O</O
177 Maryland<O</O
178 Rutgers<O</O
<O</O
179 Ohio State<O</O
180 Minnesota<O</O
<O</O
181 USC<O</O
182 Washington<O</O
<O</O
183 Notre Dame<O</O
184 Purdue<O</O
<O</O
185 BYU<O</O
186 New Mexico<O</O
<O</O
187 Washington St<O</O
188 Arizona<O</O
<O</O
189 Arizona St<O</O
190 Stanford<O</O
191 La Tech<O</O
192 Fresno St<O</O
<O</O
193 Cincinnati<O</O
194 San Diego State<O</O
<O</O
195 ULL<O</O
196 UCF<O</O
<O</O
197 FIU<O</O
198 MTSU<O</O
<O</O
199 FAU<O</O
200 Kentucky<O</O
<O</O
201 North Texas<O</O
202 Arkansas<O</O
<O</O
203 ULM<O</O
204 Troy
102 Boise St
<O
</O233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St<O
</O<O
</O103 WVU<O
</O104 USF<O
</O<O
</O105 Duke<O
</O106 Miami<O
</O<O
</O107 UNC<O
</O108 Va Tech<O
</O<O
</O109 Akron<O
</O110 UConn<O
</O<O
</O111 Indiana<O
</O112 Iowa<O
</O<O
</O113 Mississippi St<O
</O114 South Carolina<O
</O<O
</O115 Temple<O
</O116 Army<O
</O<O
</O117 Air Force<O
</O118 Navy<O
</O<O
</O119 Buffalo<O
</O120 Ball St<O
</O<O
</O121 N. Illinois<O
</O122 CMU<O
</O<O
</O123 Michigan<O
</O124 Northwestern<O
</O<O
</O125 Syracuse<O
</O126 Miami OH<O
</O<O
</O127 Utah St<O
</O128 Utah<O
</O<O
</O129 Cal<O
</O130 Oregon<O
</O<O
</O131 Alabama<O
</O132 Florida St<O
</O<O
</O133 Mississippi<O
</O134 Georgia<O
</O<O
</O135 Auburn<O
</O136 Florida<O
</O<O
</O137 UCLA<O
</O138 Oregon St<O
</O<O
</O139 Penn St<O
</O140 Illinois<O
</O<O
</O141 Michigan St<O
</O142 Wisconsin<O
</O<O
</O143 Iowa St<O
</O144 Nebraska<O
</O<O
</O145 Kansas St<O
</O146 Texas<O
</O<O
</O147 UNLV<O
</O148 Nevada<O
</O<O
</O149 UTEP<O
</O150 SMU<O
</O<O
</O151 Hawaii<O
</O152 Idaho<O
</O<O
</O153 LSU<O
</O154 Tulane<O
</O<O
</O155 Colorado St<O
</O156 TCU<O
</O<O
</O157 EMU<O
</O158 Vanderbilt<O
</O<O
</O159 WMU<O
</O160 Toledo<O
</O161 Kent St<O
</O162 Ohio<O
</O<O
</O163 Oklahoma<O
</O164 Colorado<O
</O<O
</O165 Baylor<O
</O166 Texas A&M<O
</O<O
</O167 Pittsburgh<O
</O168 Virginia<O
</O<O
</O169 ECU<O
</O170 Houston<O
</O<O
</O171 UAB<O
</O172 Tulsa<O
</O<O
</O173 Louisville<O
</O174 NC State<O
</O<O
</O175 Clemson<O
</O176 Georgia Tech<O
</O<O
</O177 Maryland<O
</O178 Rutgers<O
</O<O
</O179 Ohio State<O
</O180 Minnesota<O
</O<O
</O181 USC<O
</O182 Washington<O
</O<O
</O183 Notre Dame<O
</O184 Purdue<O
</O<O
</O185 BYU<O
</O186 New Mexico<O
</O<O
</O187 Washington St<O
</O188 Arizona<O
</O<O
</O189 Arizona St<O
</O190 Stanford<O
</O191 La Tech<O
</O192 Fresno St<O
</O<O
</O193 Cincinnati<O
</O194 San Diego State<O
</O<O
</O195 ULL<O
</O196 UCF<O
</O<O
</O197 FIU<O
</O198 MTSU<O
</O<O
</O199 FAU<O
</O200 Kentucky<O
</O<O
</O201 North Texas<O
</O202 Arkansas<O
</O<O
</O203 ULM<O
</O204 Troy
TroyStacks
18" Pythons
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TroyStacks
18" Pythons
ok here are the games i am leaning:
WVU -6.....or no play
OU-21....optomistic maybe
UF-14....still have to have respedt for the SEC games
TCU-14...traditionally a blowout
Rutgers-10....off a bye and MD off a horrid loss
ECU +/- no matter what
Hawaii-28...if brennan is back warriors cobvered games by 24ppg v Idaho
Clemson-3.....too much running power for GT IMO
Purdue-14...probably be more but with that shuitty defense it scares me
Iowa-7....HC game off a loss and returning home
KSU+17....too high maybe but 2 weeks to prepare I woudl bite here
Neb-17....maybe too low but off a loss and avg victory of 42-12 i'd play
tOSU-21....possibly could hold under DD 38-10 type game
Kent St....only as an underdog I play it
LSU 1h -17....not enough i'd go up to -21
UGA-10...maybe optomositc but ole piss can cover as home DD dogs
Nevada.....anything situational off a bye and inlv off a huge shutout win
Oregon....anything
Oregon St+ anything
Stanford+14.....atleast i need this traditionally this game is closer than teh experts think
Syracuse-3... way too lwo but I'd love this number
TAMU-14....maybe 3 points too low but this woudl be great as TAMU is 9-1 off a loss ATS
Tulsa-14....off a loss and great offense and solid defense
Wisky-3....would love this line who knows though prolly -6/-7
ASU/Standford OVER 62
Ball St/Buff over 65
WVU -6.....or no play
OU-21....optomistic maybe
UF-14....still have to have respedt for the SEC games
TCU-14...traditionally a blowout
Rutgers-10....off a bye and MD off a horrid loss
ECU +/- no matter what
Hawaii-28...if brennan is back warriors cobvered games by 24ppg v Idaho
Clemson-3.....too much running power for GT IMO
Purdue-14...probably be more but with that shuitty defense it scares me
Iowa-7....HC game off a loss and returning home
KSU+17....too high maybe but 2 weeks to prepare I woudl bite here
Neb-17....maybe too low but off a loss and avg victory of 42-12 i'd play
tOSU-21....possibly could hold under DD 38-10 type game
Kent St....only as an underdog I play it
LSU 1h -17....not enough i'd go up to -21
UGA-10...maybe optomositc but ole piss can cover as home DD dogs
Nevada.....anything situational off a bye and inlv off a huge shutout win
Oregon....anything
Oregon St+ anything
Stanford+14.....atleast i need this traditionally this game is closer than teh experts think
Syracuse-3... way too lwo but I'd love this number
TAMU-14....maybe 3 points too low but this woudl be great as TAMU is 9-1 off a loss ATS
Tulsa-14....off a loss and great offense and solid defense
Wisky-3....would love this line who knows though prolly -6/-7
ASU/Standford OVER 62
Ball St/Buff over 65
GridironGems
The Mel Kiper of CTG
Would like WV under a TD..anything over either USF or no play
Like OU anything under 21
Like Florida anything under 17
Like Rutgers under 10
Have faded ND every week so far, but like Troy said, that Purdue D just shitty
Like UGA around 7
Like Clemson, with how good Harper is playing, look out ACC
Like my Kansas State team getting 14 or more. Think my defense can pressure Colt and give Texas offense some problems and Texas secondary not impressing me all that much
Like Cal-Oregon over ..this may be a ridiculously high line though
Like tOSU under 21 over Minny
Arizona St / Stanford over
Like OU anything under 21
Like Florida anything under 17
Like Rutgers under 10
Have faded ND every week so far, but like Troy said, that Purdue D just shitty
Like UGA around 7
Like Clemson, with how good Harper is playing, look out ACC
Like my Kansas State team getting 14 or more. Think my defense can pressure Colt and give Texas offense some problems and Texas secondary not impressing me all that much
Like Cal-Oregon over ..this may be a ridiculously high line though
Like tOSU under 21 over Minny
Arizona St / Stanford over
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This are preliminary....I haven't had the opportunity to look at all box scores and are more my power rating oriented then line predictions..so more where I value the line...and they will change.
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102 Boise St -11
<O</O
233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St<O</O
<O</O
103 WVU -5.5<O</O
104 USF<O</O
<O</O
105 Duke<O</O
106 Miami -17.5<O</O
<O</O
107 UNC<O</O
108 Va Tech -15.5<O</O
<O</O
109 Akron<O</O
110 UConn -11.5<O</O
<O</O
111 Indiana<O</O
112 Iowa -8<O</O
<O</O
113 Mississippi St<O</O
114 South Carolina -16<O</O
<O</O
115 Temple<O</O
116 Army -5<O</O
<O</O
117 Air Force<O</O
118 Navy -4.5<O</O
<O</O
119 Buffalo<O</O
120 Ball St -16<O</O
<O</O
121 N. Illinois -1<O</O
122 CMU<O</O
<O</O
123 Michigan -11<O</O
124 Northwestern<O</O
<O</O
125 Syracuse <O</O
126 Miami OH -5<O</O
<O</O
127 Utah St<O</O
128 Utah -18<O</O
<O</O
129 Cal<O</O
130 Oregon -1<O</O
<O</O
131 Alabama<O</O
132 Florida St -2<O</O
<O</O
133 Mississippi<O</O
134 Georgia -12<O</O
<O</O
135 Auburn<O</O
136 Florida -16.5<O</O
<O</O
137 UCLA<O</O
138 Oregon St -4<O</O
<O</O
139 Penn St -4<O</O
140 Illinois<O</O
<O</O
141 Michigan St<O</O
142 Wisconsin -7<O</O
<O</O
143 Iowa St<O</O
144 Nebraska -22<O</O
<O</O
145 Kansas St<O</O
146 Texas -16<O</O
<O</O
147 UNLV<O</O
148 Nevada -6<O</O
<O</O
149 UTEP<O</O
150 SMU<O</O
<O</O
151 Hawaii -24.5<O</O
152 Idaho<O</O
<O</O
153 LSU -39<O</O
154 Tulane<O</O
<O</O
155 Colorado St<O</O
156 TCU -12.5<O</O
<O</O
157 EMU<O</O
158 Vanderbilt -17<O</O
<O</O
159 WMU<O</O
160 Toledo -3<O</O
161 Kent St<O</O
162 Ohio -1<O</O
<O</O
163 Oklahoma -22<O</O
164 Colorado<O</O
<O</O
165 Baylor<O</O
166 Texas A&M -13<O</O
<O</O
167 Pittsburgh<O</O
168 Virginia -5<O</O
<O</O
169 ECU<O</O
170 Houston -7<O</O
<O</O
171 UAB<O</O
172 Tulsa -23<O</O
<O</O
173 Louisville -7<O</O
174 NC State<O</O
<O</O
175 Clemson<O</O
176 Georgia Tech -2.5<O</O
<O</O
177 Maryland<O</O
178 Rutgers -15<O</O
<O</O
179 Ohio State -17<O</O
180 Minnesota<O</O
<O</O
181 USC -11<O</O
182 Washington<O</O
<O</O
183 Notre Dame<O</O
184 Purdue -18<O</O
<O</O
185 BYU -7<O</O
186 New Mexico<O</O
<O</O
187 Washington St<O</O
188 Arizona -8<O</O
<O</O
189 Arizona St -11<O</O
190 Stanford<O</O
191 La Tech<O</O
192 Fresno St<O</O
<O</O
193 Cincinnati -15.5<O</O
194 San Diego State<O</O
<O</O
195 ULL<O</O
196 UCF -19<O</O
<O</O
197 FIU<O</O
198 MTSU -11<O</O
<O</O
199 FAU<O</O
200 Kentucky -24.5<O</O
<O</O
201 North Texas<O</O
202 Arkansas -29<O</O
<O</O
203 ULM<O</O
204 Troy -7.5
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102 Boise St -11
<O
</O233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St<O
</O<O
</O103 WVU -5.5<O
</O104 USF<O
</O<O
</O105 Duke<O
</O106 Miami -17.5<O
</O<O
</O107 UNC<O
</O108 Va Tech -15.5<O
</O<O
</O109 Akron<O
</O110 UConn -11.5<O
</O<O
</O111 Indiana<O
</O112 Iowa -8<O
</O<O
</O113 Mississippi St<O
</O114 South Carolina -16<O
</O<O
</O115 Temple<O
</O116 Army -5<O
</O<O
</O117 Air Force<O
</O118 Navy -4.5<O
</O<O
</O119 Buffalo<O
</O120 Ball St -16<O
</O<O
</O121 N. Illinois -1<O
</O122 CMU<O
</O<O
</O123 Michigan -11<O
</O124 Northwestern<O
</O<O
</O125 Syracuse <O
</O126 Miami OH -5<O
</O<O
</O127 Utah St<O
</O128 Utah -18<O
</O<O
</O129 Cal<O
</O130 Oregon -1<O
</O<O
</O131 Alabama<O
</O132 Florida St -2<O
</O<O
</O133 Mississippi<O
</O134 Georgia -12<O
</O<O
</O135 Auburn<O
</O136 Florida -16.5<O
</O<O
</O137 UCLA<O
</O138 Oregon St -4<O
</O<O
</O139 Penn St -4<O
</O140 Illinois<O
</O<O
</O141 Michigan St<O
</O142 Wisconsin -7<O
</O<O
</O143 Iowa St<O
</O144 Nebraska -22<O
</O<O
</O145 Kansas St<O
</O146 Texas -16<O
</O<O
</O147 UNLV<O
</O148 Nevada -6<O
</O<O
</O149 UTEP<O
</O150 SMU<O
</O<O
</O151 Hawaii -24.5<O
</O152 Idaho<O
</O<O
</O153 LSU -39<O
</O154 Tulane<O
</O<O
</O155 Colorado St<O
</O156 TCU -12.5<O
</O<O
</O157 EMU<O
</O158 Vanderbilt -17<O
</O<O
</O159 WMU<O
</O160 Toledo -3<O
</O161 Kent St<O
</O162 Ohio -1<O
</O<O
</O163 Oklahoma -22<O
</O164 Colorado<O
</O<O
</O165 Baylor<O
</O166 Texas A&M -13<O
</O<O
</O167 Pittsburgh<O
</O168 Virginia -5<O
</O<O
</O169 ECU<O
</O170 Houston -7<O
</O<O
</O171 UAB<O
</O172 Tulsa -23<O
</O<O
</O173 Louisville -7<O
</O174 NC State<O
</O<O
</O175 Clemson<O
</O176 Georgia Tech -2.5<O
</O<O
</O177 Maryland<O
</O178 Rutgers -15<O
</O<O
</O179 Ohio State -17<O
</O180 Minnesota<O
</O<O
</O181 USC -11<O
</O182 Washington<O
</O<O
</O183 Notre Dame<O
</O184 Purdue -18<O
</O<O
</O185 BYU -7<O
</O186 New Mexico<O
</O<O
</O187 Washington St<O
</O188 Arizona -8<O
</O<O
</O189 Arizona St -11<O
</O190 Stanford<O
</O191 La Tech<O
</O192 Fresno St<O
</O<O
</O193 Cincinnati -15.5<O
</O194 San Diego State<O
</O<O
</O195 ULL<O
</O196 UCF -19<O
</O<O
</O197 FIU<O
</O198 MTSU -11<O
</O<O
</O199 FAU<O
</O200 Kentucky -24.5<O
</O<O
</O201 North Texas<O
</O202 Arkansas -29<O
</O<O
</O203 ULM<O
</O204 Troy -7.5
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frankiegotti
Power Boat Enthusiast
WVU, i would play up ot -7
Miami(FL), up to -21, they got a huge vote of confidence last week with shutting down the superb TAMU offense. Plus, duke has been competitive for two straight weeks, now i have seen it all.
Miami (OH)-Syracuse will come out flat and the coaching staff will trying everything to get this bunch motivated but it won't work. Looking for plus points here.
Alabama- Looking for -3 or better
PSU, Looking for -7 or better, can't believe i'm laying points again with PSU on the road against a solid Big 10 foe.
LSU, This one is more of a crabshoot, and depends on injuries and Les Miles weekly press conference. If he makes it apparent that he is going down to Tulane and will be a fun game everyone will get a shot to play then i will stay away. If he is very hungry and wants a blowout with a shutout then i will play LSU up to -35.
Oklahoma- Stoops knows they need to score bunches of points to be considered for national title game. Will play Oklahoma up to -21.
TAMU- Will lay up to -20, as i think this offense will explode in this game. I will be eyeing the over as well.
UVA- Looking for less then -7. I watched pitt play last night, and as long as they stay with K. Smith at QB, pitt proves to be a solid bet against team, b/c what other teams are doing are putting 8 or sometimes even 9 in the box and saying your not going to beat us running the ball, your gonna have to beat us by throwing and the QB is incapable of throwing.
Tulsa- I think they bounce back big here and they are playing UAB at home, i expect around 49 points from Tulsa's offense this weekend. Last friday was the first time i had a chance to watch their offense work and many times it fizzled but Ok is very good, so i can only imagine what they will do against UAB. Will lay up to -24
tOSU: Will lay up to -17. Minny is getting better and better every week. I don't think this game will even be close, but having such a blowout win last week by a weak (by OSU standards) offense worries me a bit.
Purdue: ND is laughable, their alumni have to be embarrassed. Will lay up to -20.
GL
Miami(FL), up to -21, they got a huge vote of confidence last week with shutting down the superb TAMU offense. Plus, duke has been competitive for two straight weeks, now i have seen it all.
Miami (OH)-Syracuse will come out flat and the coaching staff will trying everything to get this bunch motivated but it won't work. Looking for plus points here.
Alabama- Looking for -3 or better
PSU, Looking for -7 or better, can't believe i'm laying points again with PSU on the road against a solid Big 10 foe.
LSU, This one is more of a crabshoot, and depends on injuries and Les Miles weekly press conference. If he makes it apparent that he is going down to Tulane and will be a fun game everyone will get a shot to play then i will stay away. If he is very hungry and wants a blowout with a shutout then i will play LSU up to -35.
Oklahoma- Stoops knows they need to score bunches of points to be considered for national title game. Will play Oklahoma up to -21.
TAMU- Will lay up to -20, as i think this offense will explode in this game. I will be eyeing the over as well.
UVA- Looking for less then -7. I watched pitt play last night, and as long as they stay with K. Smith at QB, pitt proves to be a solid bet against team, b/c what other teams are doing are putting 8 or sometimes even 9 in the box and saying your not going to beat us running the ball, your gonna have to beat us by throwing and the QB is incapable of throwing.
Tulsa- I think they bounce back big here and they are playing UAB at home, i expect around 49 points from Tulsa's offense this weekend. Last friday was the first time i had a chance to watch their offense work and many times it fizzled but Ok is very good, so i can only imagine what they will do against UAB. Will lay up to -24
tOSU: Will lay up to -17. Minny is getting better and better every week. I don't think this game will even be close, but having such a blowout win last week by a weak (by OSU standards) offense worries me a bit.
Purdue: ND is laughable, their alumni have to be embarrassed. Will lay up to -20.
GL
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Perfect ATS Teams (No Losses)
Cincinnati
Rutgers
USF
WVU
Purdue
Kansas
Kansas St
Mizzou
OU
UCF
UTEP
Oregon
Kentucky
Troy
La Tech
Teams to Fade (No ATS Wins)
Maryland
NC State
UNC
L-ville
Minnesota
Northwestern
Marshall
Rice
Tulane
Navy
Notre Dame
WMU
Arizona
Arkansas
Boise St
NM State
Cincinnati
Rutgers
USF
WVU
Purdue
Kansas
Kansas St
Mizzou
OU
UCF
UTEP
Oregon
Kentucky
Troy
La Tech
Teams to Fade (No ATS Wins)
Maryland
NC State
UNC
L-ville
Minnesota
Northwestern
Marshall
Rice
Tulane
Navy
Notre Dame
WMU
Arizona
Arkansas
Boise St
NM State
RSMS9999
The Prodigy
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102 Boise St -8.5
233 Memphis
234 Arkansas ST -7.5
103 WVU<o></o>
104 USF +5.5<o></o>
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105 Duke<o></o>
106 Miami -18.5<o></o>
107 UNC<o></o>
108 Va Tech -13<o></o>
109 Akron<o></o>
110 UConn -6<o></o>
111 Indiana<o></o>
112 Iowa -7.5<o></o>
<o></o>
113 Mississippi St<o></o>
114 South Carolina -14<o></o>
115 Temple<o></o>
116 Army -3<o></o>
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117 Air Force<o></o>
118 Navy -4<o></o>
119 Buffalo
120 Ball St -8<o></o>
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121 N. Illinois<o></o>
122 CMU -4<o></o>
<o></o>
123 Michigan -11<o></o>
124 Northwestern<o></o>
125 Syracuse<o></o>
126 Miami OH Pk<o></o>
127 Utah St<o></o>
128 Utah -12<o></o>
129 Cal<o></o>
130 Oregon -4.5<o></o>
131 Alabama -4<o></o>
132 Florida St<o></o>
133 Mississippi<o></o>
134 Georgia -13.5<o></o>
135 Auburn<o></o>
136 Florida -16<o></o>
137 UCLA<o></o>
138 Oregon St +3<o></o>
139 Penn St<o></o>
140 Illinois +5.5<o></o>
141 Michigan St<o></o>
142 Wisconsin -7.5<o></o>
143 Iowa St<o></o>
144 Nebraska -14<o></o>
145 Kansas St<o></o>
146 Texas -12<o></o>
147 UNLV<o></o>
148 Nevada -5<o></o>
149 UTEP<o></o>
150 SMU +3<o></o>
151 Hawaii -27<o></o>
152 Idaho<o></o>
153 LSU<o></o>
154 Tulane +39<o></o>
155 Colorado St<o></o>
156 TCU -5<o></o>
157 EMU<o></o>
158 Vanderbilt -16.5<o></o>
159 WMU<o></o>
160 Toledo +3<o></o>
161 Kent St<o></o>
162 Ohio -4<o></o>
<o></o>
163 Oklahoma -14.5<o></o>
164 Colorado<o></o>
165 Baylor<o></o>
166 Texas A&M -14<o></o>
167 Pittsburgh<o></o>
168 Virginia -4
169 ECU<o></o>
170 Houston -10<o></o>
171 UAB<o></o>
172 Tulsa -9.5<o></o>
173 Louisville<o></o>
174 NC State +6<o></o>
<o></o>
175 Clemson<o></o>
176 Georgia Tech Pk<o></o>
177 Maryland<o></o>
178 Rutgers -13<o></o>
<o></o>
179 Ohio State<o></o>
180 Minnesota +21.5<o></o>
181 USC<o></o>
182 Washington +13<o></o>
<o></o>
183 Notre Dame<o></o>
184 Purdue -22<o></o>
185 BYU<o></o>
186 New Mexico +4<o></o>
187 Washington St<o></o>
188 Arizona -3<o></o>
<o></o>
189 Arizona St<o></o>
190 Stanford +10<o></o>
191 La Tech<o></o>
192 Fresno St -8.5<o></o>
193 Cincinnati<o></o>
194 San Diego State +4.5<o></o>
<o></o>
195 ULL<o></o>
196 UCF -6.5<o></o>
197 FIU<o></o>
198 MTSU -5.5<o></o>
199 FAU<o></o>
200 Kentucky -21<o></o>
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201 North Texas<o></o>
202 Arkansas -36<o></o>
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203 ULM<o></o>
204 Troy -9
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102 Boise St -8.5
233 Memphis
234 Arkansas ST -7.5
103 WVU<o></o>
104 USF +5.5<o></o>
<o></o>
105 Duke<o></o>
106 Miami -18.5<o></o>
107 UNC<o></o>
108 Va Tech -13<o></o>
109 Akron<o></o>
110 UConn -6<o></o>
111 Indiana<o></o>
112 Iowa -7.5<o></o>
<o></o>
113 Mississippi St<o></o>
114 South Carolina -14<o></o>
115 Temple<o></o>
116 Army -3<o></o>
<o></o>
117 Air Force<o></o>
118 Navy -4<o></o>
119 Buffalo
120 Ball St -8<o></o>
<o></o>
121 N. Illinois<o></o>
122 CMU -4<o></o>
<o></o>
123 Michigan -11<o></o>
124 Northwestern<o></o>
125 Syracuse<o></o>
126 Miami OH Pk<o></o>
127 Utah St<o></o>
128 Utah -12<o></o>
129 Cal<o></o>
130 Oregon -4.5<o></o>
131 Alabama -4<o></o>
132 Florida St<o></o>
133 Mississippi<o></o>
134 Georgia -13.5<o></o>
135 Auburn<o></o>
136 Florida -16<o></o>
137 UCLA<o></o>
138 Oregon St +3<o></o>
139 Penn St<o></o>
140 Illinois +5.5<o></o>
141 Michigan St<o></o>
142 Wisconsin -7.5<o></o>
143 Iowa St<o></o>
144 Nebraska -14<o></o>
145 Kansas St<o></o>
146 Texas -12<o></o>
147 UNLV<o></o>
148 Nevada -5<o></o>
149 UTEP<o></o>
150 SMU +3<o></o>
151 Hawaii -27<o></o>
152 Idaho<o></o>
153 LSU<o></o>
154 Tulane +39<o></o>
155 Colorado St<o></o>
156 TCU -5<o></o>
157 EMU<o></o>
158 Vanderbilt -16.5<o></o>
159 WMU<o></o>
160 Toledo +3<o></o>
161 Kent St<o></o>
162 Ohio -4<o></o>
<o></o>
163 Oklahoma -14.5<o></o>
164 Colorado<o></o>
165 Baylor<o></o>
166 Texas A&M -14<o></o>
167 Pittsburgh<o></o>
168 Virginia -4
169 ECU<o></o>
170 Houston -10<o></o>
171 UAB<o></o>
172 Tulsa -9.5<o></o>
173 Louisville<o></o>
174 NC State +6<o></o>
<o></o>
175 Clemson<o></o>
176 Georgia Tech Pk<o></o>
177 Maryland<o></o>
178 Rutgers -13<o></o>
<o></o>
179 Ohio State<o></o>
180 Minnesota +21.5<o></o>
181 USC<o></o>
182 Washington +13<o></o>
<o></o>
183 Notre Dame<o></o>
184 Purdue -22<o></o>
185 BYU<o></o>
186 New Mexico +4<o></o>
187 Washington St<o></o>
188 Arizona -3<o></o>
<o></o>
189 Arizona St<o></o>
190 Stanford +10<o></o>
191 La Tech<o></o>
192 Fresno St -8.5<o></o>
193 Cincinnati<o></o>
194 San Diego State +4.5<o></o>
<o></o>
195 ULL<o></o>
196 UCF -6.5<o></o>
197 FIU<o></o>
198 MTSU -5.5<o></o>
199 FAU<o></o>
200 Kentucky -21<o></o>
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201 North Texas<o></o>
202 Arkansas -36<o></o>
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203 ULM<o></o>
204 Troy -9
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RSMS9999
The Prodigy
some thoughts on a few games
West Virginia @ South Florida
Predicted Spread: USF +5.5
This will be a very hard game to figure. Both teams look very much for real and both look to be very good. In this situation, I would always look at a home dog, but WVU looks scary.
California @ Oregon
Predicted Spread: Oregon -4.5
Very very even teams here, there is no way I could imagine taking Cal at anything less than 4.5. Cal has no advantages in this game and it is played at a Gameday rowdy autzen. This is a budding rivary and a big revenge game for the Ducks. Anything less than laying 4.5 is terrific value.
Alabama @ Florida State (Jax)
Predicted Spread: Alabama -4
Florida State is a pretty shitty team. Alabama is good. If they lay a small number, Tide should be golden.
Mississippi State @ South Carolina
Predicted Spread: USC -14
I do not have much of an opinion on the side here, but will be all over the under.
more later
West Virginia @ South Florida
Predicted Spread: USF +5.5
This will be a very hard game to figure. Both teams look very much for real and both look to be very good. In this situation, I would always look at a home dog, but WVU looks scary.
California @ Oregon
Predicted Spread: Oregon -4.5
Very very even teams here, there is no way I could imagine taking Cal at anything less than 4.5. Cal has no advantages in this game and it is played at a Gameday rowdy autzen. This is a budding rivary and a big revenge game for the Ducks. Anything less than laying 4.5 is terrific value.
Alabama @ Florida State (Jax)
Predicted Spread: Alabama -4
Florida State is a pretty shitty team. Alabama is good. If they lay a small number, Tide should be golden.
Mississippi State @ South Carolina
Predicted Spread: USC -14
I do not have much of an opinion on the side here, but will be all over the under.
more later
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
Nice thoughts. I am leaning to Oregon pretty heavy myself. They have enough fire power and what should be a better defense than Cal. I would love -3 here but prob end up -4ish. I like Bama as well in a bounce back game but they have been on an emotional roller coaster. Last second win vs. Arky followed by forcing OT vs. UGA and losing. Now they have to go on the road to face FSU at a neutral site but I still lean Bama very much. I think I will be a spectator in the WVU game. What you are looking at for the under because that is what I am interested in. Gamecocks have a few injuries on defense to take care of though.
Craftsy21
Pretty much a regular
Couldn't this be looked at the opposite way? Fade the teams that are perfect ATS because they'll be getting more and more credit from bookmakers and bettors? And just the opposite for the teams doing crap against the spread.
Also . you guys all believe Oregon gives points against Cal? I was thinking somewhere between a pick'em with a slight advantage to Cal from the books.. maybe Oregon +2.5 or so...
I think it's a pretty even game, so whoever gets points is probably the better play... i do just slightly prefer cal over the ducks though, if you put a gun to my head.
TroyStacks
18" Pythons
that cokmmment is just what makes money for the books....oregon is the play here no matter what
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
I do not believe Oregon will be a home dog to Cal.
If you want to talk offenses, Cal and Oregon are both very explosive. Both average over 40+ a game. The difference for me is defense which Cal plays none of and Oregon plays some of. Other things you should note in this game that are important. The home team has won the last 4 games. They have traded wins with each other since 2003, Cal won the game last yr in rather dominating fashion. Forsett rushed for 165 and it was 28-3 in the 2nd quarter. Oregon had 4 turnovers in that game, 3 of which were INT's by Dixon
If you want to talk offenses, Cal and Oregon are both very explosive. Both average over 40+ a game. The difference for me is defense which Cal plays none of and Oregon plays some of. Other things you should note in this game that are important. The home team has won the last 4 games. They have traded wins with each other since 2003, Cal won the game last yr in rather dominating fashion. Forsett rushed for 165 and it was 28-3 in the 2nd quarter. Oregon had 4 turnovers in that game, 3 of which were INT's by Dixon
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Looking at these spots:
Cincy with a lookahead spot against SDSU (Rutgers on deck)
Rutgers with a non-conf in a lookahead spot against Maryland (Cincy on deck)
Syracuse with a let down and lookahead spot at Miami OH (WVU on deck)
Iowa in a sanwich spot hosting Indiana (PSU on deck, however, it is homecoming)
Penn State in a sandwich spot at Illinois (Iowa on deck)
Texas with revenge game against Kansas St (however, OU is on deck)
Texas A&M with sandwich game against Baylor (Okie Lite on deck)
Houston with lookahead spot against ECU (Bama on deck)
Tulane with LSU in a local "rivalry"
LSU with lookahead against Tulane (Florida on deck)
UCF with lookahead spot against ULL (ECU on deck)
SMU with revenge game against UTEP and bye week following week
Kent St with revenge game against Ohio
AFA with revenge and rivalry game against Navy
UNLV with rivalry and revenge game against Nevada
Utah in a rivalry game but lookahead spot against Utah St (L-ville on deck)
ASU with sandwich game against Stanford
Arkansas with possible let down spot against North Texas
Georgia with a sandwich spot against Ole Miss
Ole Miss with a revenge game against Georgia
Kentucky wiht sandwich game against FAU
LSU with a sandwich game against Tulane
Cincy with a lookahead spot against SDSU (Rutgers on deck)
Rutgers with a non-conf in a lookahead spot against Maryland (Cincy on deck)
Syracuse with a let down and lookahead spot at Miami OH (WVU on deck)
Iowa in a sanwich spot hosting Indiana (PSU on deck, however, it is homecoming)
Penn State in a sandwich spot at Illinois (Iowa on deck)
Texas with revenge game against Kansas St (however, OU is on deck)
Texas A&M with sandwich game against Baylor (Okie Lite on deck)
Houston with lookahead spot against ECU (Bama on deck)
Tulane with LSU in a local "rivalry"
LSU with lookahead against Tulane (Florida on deck)
UCF with lookahead spot against ULL (ECU on deck)
SMU with revenge game against UTEP and bye week following week
Kent St with revenge game against Ohio
AFA with revenge and rivalry game against Navy
UNLV with rivalry and revenge game against Nevada
Utah in a rivalry game but lookahead spot against Utah St (L-ville on deck)
ASU with sandwich game against Stanford
Arkansas with possible let down spot against North Texas
Georgia with a sandwich spot against Ole Miss
Ole Miss with a revenge game against Georgia
Kentucky wiht sandwich game against FAU
LSU with a sandwich game against Tulane
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
No, you ride the good ATS teams and you fade the bad ATS teams. It's a proven way to make money if you can identify those teams.
However, you're also right. The books aren't dumb and they will keep giving inflated numbers to these teams until eventually they will lose (or win), but in the long run, these teams will win/lose ATS despite a few stumbles against impossible lines.
Craftsy21
Pretty much a regular
which comment?
Craftsy21
Pretty much a regular
I see.. :cheers:
Craftsy21
Pretty much a regular
This is great information! I love sammich game spots :tiphat:
JumpOnBoard
CTG Partner
same scenario as cal last week..
Texas isn't forgetting that loss in Manhattan...no matter who's on deck.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
101 USM
102 Boise St -7
<O</O
233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St -2<O</O
<O</O
103 WVU -7<O</O
104 USF<O</O
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105 Duke<O</O
106 Miami -17<O</O
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107 UNC<O</O
108 Va Tech -14<O</O
<O</O
109 Akron<O</O
110 UConn -14<O</O
<O</O
111 Indiana<O</O
112 Iowa -12<O</O
<O</O
113 Mississippi St<O</O
114 South Carolina -16<O</O
<O</O
115 Temple<O</O
116 Army -1<O</O
<O</O
117 Air Force<O</O
118 Navy -6<O</O
<O</O
119 Buffalo<O</O
120 Ball St -17<O</O
<O</O
121 N. Illinois<O</O
122 CMU -9<O</O
<O</O
123 Michigan -7<O</O
124 Northwestern<O</O
<O</O
125 Syracuse<O</O
126 Miami OH -15<O</O
<O</O
127 Utah St<O</O
128 Utah -17<O</O
<O</O
129 Cal<O</O
130 Oregon -7<O</O
<O</O
131 Alabama -2<O</O
132 Florida St<O</O
<O</O
133 Mississippi<O</O
134 Georgia -20<O</O
<O</O
135 Auburn<O</O
136 Florida -15<O</O
<O</O
137 UCLA -2<O</O
138 Oregon St<O</O
<O</O
139 Penn St -1<O</O
140 Illinois<O</O
<O</O
141 Michigan St<O</O
142 Wisconsin -6<O</O
<O</O
143 Iowa St<O</O
144 Nebraska -24<O</O
<O</O
145 Kansas St<O</O
146 Texas -11<O</O
<O</O
147 UNLV<O</O
148 Nevada -3<O</O
<O</O
149 UTEP -2<O</O
150 SMU<O</O
<O</O
151 Hawaii -20<O</O
152 Idaho<O</O
<O</O
153 LSU -48<O</O
154 Tulane<O</O
<O</O
155 Colorado St<O</O
156 TCU -8<O</O
<O</O
157 EMU<O</O
158 Vanderbilt -19<O</O
<O</O
159 WMU -9<O</O
160 Toledo<O</O
161 Kent St<O</O
162 Ohio -7<O</O
<O</O
163 Oklahoma -24<O</O
164 Colorado<O</O
<O</O
165 Baylor<O</O
166 Texas A&M -17<O</O
<O</O
167 Pittsburgh -1<O</O
168 Virginia<O</O
<O</O
169 ECU<O</O
170 Houston -8<O</O
<O</O
171 UAB<O</O
172 Tulsa -18<O</O
<O</O
173 Louisville -9<O</O
174 NC State<O</O
<O</O
175 Clemson<O</O
176 Georgia Tech pk<O</O
<O</O
177 Maryland<O</O
178 Rutgers -18<O</O
<O</O
179 Ohio State -19<O</O
180 Minnesota <O</O
<O</O
181 USC -19<O</O
182 Washington<O</O
<O</O
183 Notre Dame<O</O
184 Purdue -20<O</O
<O</O
185 BYU -4<O</O
186 New Mexico<O</O
<O</O
187 Washington St pk<O</O
188 Arizona<O</O
<O</O
189 Arizona St -20<O</O
190 Stanford<O</O
191 La Tech<O</O
192 Fresno St -20<O</O
<O</O
193 Cincinnati -21<O</O
194 San Diego State<O</O
<O</O
195 ULL<O</O
196 UCF -21<O</O
<O</O
197 FIU<O</O
198 MTSU -14<O</O
<O</O
199 FAU<O</O
200 Kentucky -22<O</O
<O</O
201 North Texas<O</O
202 Arkansas -38<O</O
<O</O
203 ULM<O</O
204 Troy -10
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102 Boise St -7
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</O233 Memphis
234 Arkansas St -2<O
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</O103 WVU -7<O
</O104 USF<O
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</O105 Duke<O
</O106 Miami -17<O
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</O107 UNC<O
</O108 Va Tech -14<O
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</O109 Akron<O
</O110 UConn -14<O
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</O111 Indiana<O
</O112 Iowa -12<O
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</O113 Mississippi St<O
</O114 South Carolina -16<O
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</O115 Temple<O
</O116 Army -1<O
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</O117 Air Force<O
</O118 Navy -6<O
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</O119 Buffalo<O
</O120 Ball St -17<O
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</O121 N. Illinois<O
</O122 CMU -9<O
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</O123 Michigan -7<O
</O124 Northwestern<O
</O<O
</O125 Syracuse<O
</O126 Miami OH -15<O
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</O127 Utah St<O
</O128 Utah -17<O
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</O129 Cal<O
</O130 Oregon -7<O
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</O131 Alabama -2<O
</O132 Florida St<O
</O<O
</O133 Mississippi<O
</O134 Georgia -20<O
</O<O
</O135 Auburn<O
</O136 Florida -15<O
</O<O
</O137 UCLA -2<O
</O138 Oregon St<O
</O<O
</O139 Penn St -1<O
</O140 Illinois<O
</O<O
</O141 Michigan St<O
</O142 Wisconsin -6<O
</O<O
</O143 Iowa St<O
</O144 Nebraska -24<O
</O<O
</O145 Kansas St<O
</O146 Texas -11<O
</O<O
</O147 UNLV<O
</O148 Nevada -3<O
</O<O
</O149 UTEP -2<O
</O150 SMU<O
</O<O
</O151 Hawaii -20<O
</O152 Idaho<O
</O<O
</O153 LSU -48<O
</O154 Tulane<O
</O<O
</O155 Colorado St<O
</O156 TCU -8<O
</O<O
</O157 EMU<O
</O158 Vanderbilt -19<O
</O<O
</O159 WMU -9<O
</O160 Toledo<O
</O161 Kent St<O
</O162 Ohio -7<O
</O<O
</O163 Oklahoma -24<O
</O164 Colorado<O
</O<O
</O165 Baylor<O
</O166 Texas A&M -17<O
</O<O
</O167 Pittsburgh -1<O
</O168 Virginia<O
</O<O
</O169 ECU<O
</O170 Houston -8<O
</O<O
</O171 UAB<O
</O172 Tulsa -18<O
</O<O
</O173 Louisville -9<O
</O174 NC State<O
</O<O
</O175 Clemson<O
</O176 Georgia Tech pk<O
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</O177 Maryland<O
</O178 Rutgers -18<O
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</O179 Ohio State -19<O
</O180 Minnesota <O
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</O181 USC -19<O
</O182 Washington<O
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</O183 Notre Dame<O
</O184 Purdue -20<O
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</O185 BYU -4<O
</O186 New Mexico<O
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</O187 Washington St pk<O
</O188 Arizona<O
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</O189 Arizona St -20<O
</O190 Stanford<O
</O191 La Tech<O
</O192 Fresno St -20<O
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</O193 Cincinnati -21<O
</O194 San Diego State<O
</O<O
</O195 ULL<O
</O196 UCF -21<O
</O<O
</O197 FIU<O
</O198 MTSU -14<O
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</O199 FAU<O
</O200 Kentucky -22<O
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</O201 North Texas<O
</O202 Arkansas -38<O
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</O203 ULM<O
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WVU is dangerous
Devine is the truth
Devine is the truth
TroyStacks
18" Pythons
yes but i need a perfect line for this and thats 1.5 at most hahaha
TroyStacks
18" Pythons
ML either way is the play winner will win by DD IMO...blowout or upset
PRECISEwon
Stuck at the 19th hole
a lot of big road favs...
