Sunday 01/06/13 NBA discussion thread

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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]801[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Oklahoma City Thunder[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-7 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 197 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]10:05 AM[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]802[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Toronto Raptors[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+7 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 197 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]803[/TD]
[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Washington Wizards[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]+14 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Over 190.5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]03:05 PM[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesTeam, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Miami Heat[/TD]
[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]-14 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #C1D2EE"]Under 190.5 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]805[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]+8.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Over 193 1.952[/TD]
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[TD="bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]04:35 PM[/TD]
[TD="class: linesRotNumBold, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]806[/TD]
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[TD="class: linesScore, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesSpread, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]-8.5 1.952[/TD]
[TD="class: linesMLine, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"][/TD]
[TD="class: linesTotals, bgcolor: #E6EEFB"]Under 193 1.952[/TD]
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Ill be on the heat tomorrow. Looks like the team wants to do something about their rebounding numbers. Won't find a much better team to do it against. Wiz can't catch very many breaks. South beach is just the place these guys are not supposed to be on national championship weekend. If you know what I mean.
 
As Jamal Crawford lingered in the Clippers' locker room late Friday night, two children darted across the carpet while two others swiveled in oversized chairs in front of Matt Barnes' locker.


Crawford sat on a counter contemplating the scene and a season that has seemed like child's play for the veteran shooting guard.


"I haven't had this much fun," he said, "since high school."


Crawford is among the big men on the Clippers' campus, leading the NBA in bench scoring and building buzz as the probable sixth man of the year and a possible All-Star reserve.


He was averaging 16.5 points per game before Saturday and had led his team in scoring 10 times in 33 games, though those numbers were of secondary importance.


Crawford was far more wowed by the Clippers' 26-8 record and recent 17-game winning streak. That kind of success speaks to someone who had never previously won more than seven consecutive games in his pro career.


"Crazy, right?" said Crawford, who spent his early NBA days on some laughably bad Chicago Bulls and New York Knicks teams. Even when Crawford enjoyed two relatively successful seasons in Atlanta, the Hawks never made it past the Eastern Conference semifinals.


Now that he's winning big with the Clippers, the joke is on the rest of the NBA.


Crawford, 32, has thrived by being himself. That means shooting and scoring almost from the moment he enters the game.


"I want Jamal to be Jamal," Clippers Coach Vinny Del ***** said. "Jamal is a scorer and we have to get him shots and he's going to make shots for us and make big plays because he's very difficult to cover."


Crawford had scored 20 points or more 13 times prior to the Clippers' game against Golden State on Saturday. He was particularly effective late in games, his 217 points in the fourth quarter trailing only Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant.


Bryant has endorsed Crawford for sixth man of the year since early November, praise that Crawford said was trumped only by teammates Chris Paul and Blake Griffin lobbying for him to be selected for next month's All-Star Game in Houston.


"It's weird to even be coming off the bench and hear All-Star talk," Crawford said. "That's pretty cool."


Crawford has made being a reserve fashionable since he started doing it three years ago with the Hawks, averaging 18 points on the way to becoming the league's sixth man of the year.


Not that going from starter to reserve was an easy transition.


In his first game as a designated backup, in October 2009, Crawford quickly found his way back onto the bench. He took three shots and scored only three points in 13 minutes.


Some encouragement from Atlanta Coach Mike Woodson and star Joe Johnson helped Crawford realize they envisioned a bigger role for him.


"They were like, 'No, we need you to score,' " Crawford recalled. "'Just because you're the sixth man doesn't mean you're not a huge part of this team.' "


The Clippers considered making Crawford a fill-in starter for the injured Chauncey Billups before deciding otherwise, realizing that Crawford's scoring punch would be best utilized with the second unit.


Opposing defenses certainly know where the ball is going when Crawford is on the court.


"He's treated like a star," said Barnes, the reserve forward who often plays alongside Crawford. "They're sending two guys at him, sometimes three, and shading him, and he knows when there's that much attention on him that someone else is going to be open. I've been the recipient of a lot of his good passes."


Crawford said his success reminds him of the season he was sixth man of the year with the Hawks, with one notable exception: His team has a realistic chance to win an NBA title.


"We won 53 games that year," Crawford said, "but this year we're truly contenders for a championship and that makes it special. Most teams you look around and say, 'Oh, you need a bench or you need a big guy or a great point guard.' We have everything."


Including squealing kids in the locker room.


"You see the family and everybody is in here," Crawford said, surveying the scene, "so it's a totally different atmosphere than I've ever seen before."


Considering where Crawford has been and where he hopes to go, he wants nothing less.


ben.bolch@latimes.com


twitter.com/latbbolch
 
Locked in Toronto plus 7.
Toronto last 10 at home on Sunday

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[TD="class: TSN1c, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, width: 10%, align: center"]O/U[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]12/16/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Houston[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]103-96[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+4[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 199.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/25/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. San Antonio[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]106-111[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 195.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]11/18/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]97-86[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 187[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/04/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Minnesota[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]105-86[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-3[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/01/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-92[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-6.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 192[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/11/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Milwaukee[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]99-105[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+2[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 198[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]03/04/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Golden State[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]83-75[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-1[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 192.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/12/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. LA Lakers[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]92-94[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 175.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/10/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Brooklyn[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-92[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 207[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]04/03/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]102-98[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+9.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 196.5[/TD]

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OKC away last 20
10-9-1 ATS
11-9 SU
Off a crush by 24
Facing a team they have beat consecutively by 16 and 20 playing in the day and I have no clue how they handle day games
OKC as a under 8 fav
10-10 last 20 ATS 11-9 SU
Toss in some ML
Toronto off a home loss
Reasonable gamble
In the 4 home games on Sunday this year Toronto scored 411 points. Will look at the Toronto team total
GL
 
Another guess. Under 190.5 in Miami
Can find widely divergent trends here on this total
But Miami at home last 10 7-3 under
Washington 5-10 under on the road
Miami at home on Sunday 8-2 under last 10 and 12-3 under last 15
Washington looking at OKC at home the next day which Miami is aware of.
Could be wrong but I LOVE to gamble.
Found this at Killer Sports
Wizards are 0-10 OU (-9.6 ppg) since January 05, 2010
as a dog with at least one day of rest off a loss as a dog in
which they led at the end of the third quarter.
 
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Great article on Crawford. Always wished it woulda worked out for him to play for a few season in A2 instead of what went on.

Detroit hasn't seen chalk like that in a few years it would seem...llol..
 
Bar,

i lean the bobcats there. The pistons have no clue how to hold leads and I cannot lay more than two possessions right now. And if this line stays at 9, I'll definitely be on the bobcats, I don't have the stats on me but 9 point dogs have been money for the past few seasons... There were a few in the last week I believe
 
And the pistons have a whopping 4 days off after this game. That's something the team must be looking forward to. The 4th quarter woes are to be expected because the pistons haven't been in the position of having to hold leads in a while.

The bobcats defense is terrible though. Maybe over is the better play with both teams not giving much effort on the defensive side of the ball. I need to see refs
 
tuck321 said:
Locked in Toronto plus 7.
Toronto last 10 at home on Sunday

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[TD="class: TSN1c, align: center"][/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1c, align: center"]O/U[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]12/16/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Houston[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]103-96[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]+4[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 199.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/25/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. San Antonio[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]106-111[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 195.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]11/18/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]97-86[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-3.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 187[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]11/04/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Minnesota[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]105-86[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]-3[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 189[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/01/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Washington[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-92[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-6.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 192[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]03/11/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Milwaukee[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]99-105[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+2[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 198[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]03/04/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Golden State[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]83-75[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-1[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 192.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]02/12/2012[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. LA Lakers[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]92-94[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]L[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 175.5[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN5, width: 12%, align: left"]04/10/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 25%"]vs. Brooklyn[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]99-92[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]-6[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN5, width: 10%, align: center"]U 207[/TD]

[TD="class: TSN1, width: 12%, align: left"]04/03/2011[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 25%"]vs. Orlando[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]102-98[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]+9.5[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 8%, align: center"]W[/TD]
[TD="class: TSN1, width: 10%, align: center"]O 196.5[/TD]

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OKC away last 20
10-9-1 ATS
11-9 SU
Off a crush by 24
Facing a team they have beat consecutively by 16 and 20 playing in the day and I have no clue how they handle day games
OKC as a under 8 fav
10-10 last 20 ATS 11-9 SU
Toss in some ML
Toronto off a home loss
Reasonable gamble
In the 4 home games on Sunday this year Toronto scored 411 points. Will look at the Toronto team total
GL
Click to expand...

Exactly the information I was looking for. Thanks Tuck.
 
TheCashMan said:
If you read yesterdays(Saturday) discussion thread you will see why...
Click to expand...
i didn't read yesterday's thread, but i'm hoping you're poking fun at someone here...everyteam has to go through customs to get to a raptors game lol
 
The thing with okc is I feel like the team can easily be screwed up by something like an early start. A day game against a non conference foe.
 
More input and more bets
Refs in the Toronto game are 16-6 for the home dog this year
Active trend from Killer Sports
The Raptors are 9-0 ATS (17.8 ppg) since February 03, 2012
when facing a team that covered by double digits against
them in their previous same-season meeting as a dog
I am increasing the game bet and adding regular bets on Toronto first half plus 4 minus 15 cents
Last 8 games OKC is 1-7 ATS in the first half.
And a little less Toronto +2 minus 5 cents first quarter
as well as Toronto over 95 and .5 unit Toronto plus 248 ML
Don Best NBA injuries seems scewed up today but looking at Rotoworld saw nothing unusual
Remember something. Geography is not my strong suit but I believe this is 2 hours early for OKC and know Tronto has been a good day team that is 7-3 SU last 10 at home and is also 8-2 ATS in those games.

Date Opponent Score SU Line ATS O/U
01/04/2013 vs. Sacramento 96-105 L -7 L O 196
01/02/2013 vs. Portland 102-79 W -4 W U 192
12/21/2012 vs. Orlando 93-90 W -3.5 L U 187.5
12/19/2012 vs. Detroit 97-91 W -3 W O 186.5
12/16/2012 vs. Houston 103-96 W +4 W U 199.5
12/14/2012 vs. Dallas 95-74 W +5 W U 194.5
12/12/2012 vs. Brooklyn 88-94 L +7.5 W U 185.5
11/30/2012 vs. Phoenix 101-97 W -3 W U 200.5
11/25/2012 vs. San Antonio 106-111 L +6 W O 195.5
11/18/2012 vs. Orlando 97-86 W -3.5 W U 187
 
any ideas on y lakers game steaming at +6 now...that what my local has

was 4.5 most of day

gallo is probable but cant find anything else
 
this time wasnt afraid of the movement ....denver took wire to wire

lakers have brutal texas 2 step then home against KD
 
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