Seeking honest opinions. appreciate it.

[RetroVK]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice most shocked to see lose
michigan
buffalo most shocked to see win

Group 2

Temple shocked to see lose
louisville shocked to see win
oklahoma state
California
troy

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson shocked to see win
oklahoma st
Temple shocked to see lose

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina shocked to see lose
northwestern shocked to see win
wake forest

Group 5

mississippi
mississippi st
boston college shocked to see win
wyoming shocked to see lose
Virginia tech

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota shocked to see win
S carolina shocked to see lose
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

 

[E.T.G.]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan
buffalo

this is a shit group for me. most shocked if MOH wins. Most shocked if Mich loses

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy

its a tie, I would be real shocked if Temple or Okie Light lost. but none of the remaining 3 winning shocks me although i believe cal is in for a tough game



Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple

I would be pretty shocked in Tennessee lost, expecting big things from them. I guess I'll vote Clemsux the most surprising win of these remaining 4.

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest

no way on this earth is cuse winning that game so yea, NW losing at home is a shocker. none of these other teams winning shocks me though

Group 5

mississippi
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

i would be pretty damn shocked in wyoming lost in laramine to ohio... pretty upset too.

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech

i would be incredibly shocked in sc lost, devasted and shocked. no fuken way. i can't pick teams in this group to be "most shocked if they won" because they all should win.

Thanks for answering for me.

i can't pick the most shocked if they won because besides group 1, with MOH, all of the teams listed should win. sorry that doesnt help much

 

[RetroVK]

not asking for any reasoning just format like this

group 1

most shocked to see lose -
most shocked to see win-

and so on. thanks.

 

[RetroVK]

thanks etg.

if you get time , could you go back and pick your exclusions

 

[RetroVK]

i am a slave driver. hehe

however shocked you would be in any of the teams lost , which would shock you the most. hehe.

 

[E.T.G.]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan
buffalo

w = moh
l = mich

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy

w = lville
l = ok st

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple

w = tcu
l = tenn


Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest

w = so miss
l = nw

Group 5

mississippi
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

w = vt
l = wyoming

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech

w = minnesota
l = scar

Thanks for answering for me.

the most shocking win overall is MOH, the most shocking loss overall is NW

 

[CAPital]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1
win-rice
lose-mich

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan
buffalo

Group 2
win-pokes
lose-cal


Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy

Group 3
win-pokes
lose-tcu

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple

Group 4
win-wake
lose-sc


Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest

Group 5
win-BC
lose-wyo


mississippi
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

Group 6
win-minny
lose-sc


unlv
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

off top of the dome

 

[~Utah]

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan
buffalo

L - Michigan
W - Oregon St

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy

W - Troy
L - Louiseville

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple

L - Tennessee
W - Clemson

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest

L - South Carolina
W - Southern Miss

Group 5

mississippi
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

L - V. Tech
W - Miss

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech

L - V. Tech
W- Out of this list I suppose Minnesota


If V. Tech lost I would literally be floored.

In the last 12 seasons, they have lost once in a season opener, and that one was to USC.

They lost a good bit of their team, but I really dont see it. This could be a close game, but I would honestly be very suprised if V. Tech lost their season opener...even if iti s in Charlotte.

then again im no pro at this, so I might just be full of it.

Fixed it for you VK but it pained me to make those last 3 W's

 

[RetroVK]

thanks for answering alex. for your not sures if you could pick one it would help me. thanks.

 

[TheGarfather]

Group 1: W OSU, L Rice
Group 2: W Louisville, L Cal
Group 3: W OkSt, L Ten
Group 4: W USM, L SC (wanted to say NW, but resisted the temptation)
Group 5: W Miss State, L Wyoming
Group 6: W Minnesota, L SC

No idea why, but I really enjoyed this little exercise. GL w/ your results. Money line parlays?

 

[RetroVK]

thanks cap

 

[RetroVK]

thanks gar.

 

[carolinablue]

My replies are below, interesting exercise, thanks!

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE
buffalo MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE
troy MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN
Group 3

Tennessee MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN
Temple

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE

Group 5

mississippi MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE

Group 6

unlv MOST SHOCKED TO SEE WIN
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech MOST SHOCKED TO SEE LOSE

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

 

[RetroVK]

thanks cb

 

[lindetrain]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio - most shocked to see win
oregon state - most shocked to see lose
rice
michigan
buffalo

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state - most shocked to see lose
California - most shocked to see win
troy

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU - most shocked to see win
Clemson
oklahoma st - most shocked to see lose
Temple

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina - most shocked to see win
northwestern
wake forest - most shocked to see lose

Group 5

mississippi - most shocked to see win
mississippi st - most shocked to see lose
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

Group 6

unlv - most shocked to see lose
missouri
minnesota - most shocked to see win
S carolina
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

There you go.

 

[RetroVK]

thanks linde

 

[Dmoney416]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state - most shocked to see lose
rice
michigan
buffalo - most shocked to see win

Group 2

Temple - most shocked to see lose
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy - most shocked to see win

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st - most shocked to see win
Temple - most shocked to see lose

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss - most shocked to see win
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest - most shocked to see lose

Group 5

mississippi - most shocked to see win
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming - most shocked to see lose
Virginia tech

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota - most shocked to see win
S carolina - most shocked to see lose
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

Group 3 was the most difficult for me.

 

[RetroVK]

thanks dmoney.

keep em coming gang.

 

[VThokies]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio shocked if win
oregon state
rice
michigan shocked if lose
buffalo

Group 2

Temple shocked if win
louisville shocked if lose
oklahoma state
California
troy

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU if lose
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple if win

Group 4

Colorado shocked if lose
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern if win
wake forest

Group 5

mississippi shocked if lose
mississippi st
boston college if win
wyoming
Virginia tech

Group 6

unlv
missouri shocked if lose
minnesota if win
S carolina
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

updated

 

[E.T.G.]

VK - Where are you going with this?

 

[RetroVK]

Actually just examining where we all think these games are at. Grouped them by point spread ranges. If for some reason one team consistently appears on one of the two shocked lists the same way it may mean they have more or less value than similarly lined games.

Could be used for moneylines. It's not a tool per se , but just want to see where all the talented cappers feel these games end straight up. One thing it does do is put a game in proper perspective. For instance , look at group 6 ...

unlv -12
minnesota -9.5
s carolina -11.5
virginia tech -10

Similarly lined games and yet minnesota is running away as the favorite that most would feel the least shocked about if they lost straight up. Granted they are also the smallest favorite of the group and cross the number "10".

BUT look at results so far from group 1 !!!

so far atleast most would be most shocked by a michigan loss ...and not a single person picked them as the most shocked to see win. their line is tied for the highest , so some of that is reflected but you get an idea of where i am going. This is a bit of a trickier comparison since the 3 is such a huge number.

miami oh -2.5
oregon st -4
rice -3
michigan -4
buffalo -3

other groups seem to be more spread out in relation to expectations.


It is just a quick glance at CTG expectation of similarly lined football games.

 

[JROCK1966]

Ok i am going to list several groups of games. i want you to tell me who you would be most shocked to see win and most shocked to see lose from each group, straight up.

Group 1

Miami ohio
oregon state
rice
michigan
buffalo

Group 2

Temple
louisville
oklahoma state
California
troy

Group 3

Tennessee
TCU
Clemson
oklahoma st
Temple

Group 4

Colorado
Southern miss
s carolina
northwestern
wake forest

Group 5

mississippi
mississippi st
boston college
wyoming
Virginia tech

Group 6

unlv
missouri
minnesota
S carolina
virginia tech

Thanks for answering for me. Also , please try to answer these without looking at what other people have posted before you. Go straight from post 1 to answering your reply and then sift back thru the thread afterwards. Don't want a bandwagon mentality to form unnaturally.

group1 - lose (mich) win (buff)
group2 - lose (cal) win (temp)
group3 - lose (tenn) win (temp)
group4 - lose (WF) win (NW)
group5 - lose (va tech) win (miss)
group6 - lose (va tech) win (minn)

 

[B.A.R.]

Group#1
Rice-lose
Buffalo-win

Group#2
Temple-lose
N/A-win

Group#3
Temple-lose
N/A-win

Group#4
Wake-lose
N/A-win

Group#5

Wyoming-lose
Va Tech-win(with gun to head)

Group#6

Scary-lose
Minny-win

 

[B.A.R.]

Actually just examining where we all think these games are at. Grouped them by point spread ranges. If for some reason one team consistently appears on one of the two shocked lists the same way it may mean they have more or less value than similarly lined games.

Could be used for moneylines. It's not a tool per se , but just want to see where all the talented cappers feel these games end straight up. One thing it does do is put a game in proper perspective. For instance , look at group 6 ...

unlv -12
minnesota -9.5
s carolina -11.5
virginia tech -10

Similarly lined games and yet minnesota is running away as the favorite that most would feel the least shocked about if they lost straight up. Granted they are also the smallest favorite of the group and cross the number "10".

BUT look at results so far from group 1 !!!

so far atleast most would be most shocked by a michigan loss ...and not a single person picked them as the most shocked to see win. their line is tied for the highest , so some of that is reflected but you get an idea of where i am going. This is a bit of a trickier comparison since the 3 is such a huge number.

miami oh -2.5
oregon st -4
rice -3
michigan -4
buffalo -3

other groups seem to be more spread out in relation to expectations.


It is just a quick glance at CTG expectation of similarly lined football games.

ahhhh...