Saturday i'm off Tillman Discussion

GWarner27 · May 8, 2015

leans from the BOL open:
WAS u7 -115
StL +102/u7.5 -115
CHC +102/o8.5 -105
COL +161
ARI -102: G. Gibson
MIA +165: Muchlinski
KC +145
TOR o9
MIN -106
HOU +103: Drake
SEA -123

on the radar:
TB u7.5 -120: Hickox

Gyno · May 8, 2015

How does one not bet Toronto over tomorrow?

GWarner27 · May 8, 2015

Gabe said:
How does one not bet Toronto over tomorrow?

that makes me nervous

Gyno · May 9, 2015

Nevermind

Gyno · May 9, 2015

Would like to hear an argument for the under in Toronto game. That's all.

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

Gabe said:
Would like to hear an argument for the under in Toronto game. That's all.

Can you state your reasons for the over?

austinhous · May 9, 2015

Is the roof going to be off in Toronto?

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

austinhous said:
Is the roof going to be off in Toronto?

i'd be shocked if its closed.... weather report looks fantastic

SerfCap · May 9, 2015

nbafan88 said:
Can you state your reasons for the over?

Really?

Look at the starting pitchers. Those ERA's against teams that can hit the ball well. Toronto leads the AL in runs and Boston can always get hot. Especially against chum pitchers. Blue Jays with a horrible bullpen and nothing special about Boston's.

austinhous · May 9, 2015

Going back to last season the O/U is 43-47-4 (.478) in day games at Rogers Centre. It's 17-30-1 (.362) O/U in those day games with the roof off. The most memorable of those games, to me, was Shelby Miller's CGSO on June 7th in his first-ever start there. The sun was shining bright that day my friends.

SerfCap · May 9, 2015

Under it is!

KJ · May 9, 2015

god I hate early overs

KJ · May 9, 2015

Prefer under in NYY and over in Detroit for those early games

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

SerfCap said:
Really?

Look at the starting pitchers. Those ERA's against teams that can hit the ball well. Toronto leads the AL in runs and Boston can always get hot. Especially against chum pitchers. Blue Jays with a horrible bullpen and nothing special about Boston's.

I hadn't even looked into the game yet.... i just think if you ask for people to play devils advocate you should present your side.... so yes really... that is the point of these forums

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

Don't really like much my first run through the card... will probably take the over in chase again

austinhous · May 9, 2015

If you're looking for an over I'd recommend the game in Cleveland at first glance. The Twins are 11-3 O/U versus LHP this season and own the most runs scored (57) versus left-handed starters. The next-closest team is the Royals, who have scored 40 runs off opposing left-handed starters.

KJ · May 9, 2015

Twins team totals will be bet for the foreseeable future, they are doing the deed

theking · May 9, 2015

Jay's have decent bats but Bostons line-up is shaky....at least they get Ortiz back from suspension for Saturday's game. Sanchez was terrible today and somehow escaped with 0 ER because Boston bats just could not do anything with runners on base.

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

austinhous said:
If you're looking for an over I'd recommend the game in Cleveland at first glance. The Twins are 11-3 O/U versus LHP this season and own the most runs scored (57) versus left-handed starters. The next-closest team is the Royals, who have scored 40 runs off opposing left-handed starters.

strong wind out to center and around 80 degrees

Bruce chen has been pretty solid for AAA columbus and has a lot to prove to get back into the big leagues for good... and phil hughes is phil hughes... an extreme fly ball pitcher who can blow up at any time especially in day games

i think the indians will want to give Chen plenty of support... twins getting pounded right now

BJPLAYER · May 9, 2015

hutch is consistently involved in high scoring games...kelly has had trouble locating his fastball while leaving a lot of balls out over the plate....toronto can hit and so can boston but boston is not hitting wrisc...203...third lowest in league...both pens are hittable and both pitchers do not go deep...this game is certainly not an under bet but the poor current form of boston's offense should give you pause....personally i think it goes over....austinhous recommendation on the cleve game over is more solid i believe

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Kelly has allowed 5 earned in each of his last three starts
Hutch has allowed 6 earned in each of his last two starts and 6,6,2,4,7 in his last five starts

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Play2win said:
Kelly has allowed 5 earned in each of his last three starts
Hutch has allowed 6 earned in each of his last two starts and 6,6,2,4,7 in his last five starts

Over 8-3 L11 Boston road games
Over 4-0 L4 Hutch starts vs Bos
Over 7-3-1 L11 with Cederstrom behind the plate

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

I've never seen 90%+ on an over before. Wow lol

but could they have lined the total higher?

BJPLAYER · May 9, 2015

nbafan88 said:
I've never seen 90%+ on an over before. Wow lol

but could they have lined the total higher?

for sure to go under now...lol

Play2win · May 9, 2015

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Play2win · May 9, 2015

Sanchez great vs Kc, Guthrie has struggled with Det
Guthrie better on 4, today he's on 5 days rest
Sanchez on 5 and that's good for him
Det 13-3 in day games this season

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Hutch high ERA vs Bos and in day starts

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Fister great on 5 days rest, and in day starts

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

Baltimore (12-15) leads the majors with a .318 average in day games with an AL-best .516 slugging percentage. Jones is second in the majors with a .576 average in day games, Flaherty is tied for sixth at .444 and Jimmy Paredes is 23rd at .385.
The Yankees are last in the majors with a .187 average in day games.

nbafan88 · May 9, 2015

Not sure if jones is playing

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Phil Hughes

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Play2win · May 9, 2015

Min hot, Cle isn't and really struggling in division games to start the season
Hughes is capable, I'm not trusting Chen
Chen allowed 16 ER in 9.2 innings vs Min last season, 20 innings of work with Eddings 5.40 era
Hughes was great in day starts '14, not so much '15
Hughes 6-0 May starts L2 seasons (teams record), Hughes great May record career

big_units · May 9, 2015

over in shitcago g2 is worth a look...marquis sucks and always puts a bunch of runners on...and i watched this highly-touted rodon clown throw all 3 times--he only has 2 pitches, can't command either of them, and the hitters know he's afraid to throw his slider. now he's spot starting? he will probably be throwing balls to the backstop. don't see how he won't get into a early clusterfuck, and then the white sux shitpen will come in to open the floodgates.

Mookie30 · May 9, 2015

Jones is in

2daBank · May 9, 2015

Play2win said:
Sanchez great vs Kc, Guthrie has struggled with Det
Guthrie better on 4, today he's on 5 days rest
Sanchez on 5 and that's good for him
Det 13-3 in day games this season

i tried to convince myself to play kc just cause guthrie's strong track record as a dog, and kc's in general. i couldnt do it.

Hollywood Beaker · May 9, 2015

Not advocating the over in Toronto but Gary Cederstrom doesn't exactly help the under.

Play2win · May 9, 2015

Cueto great in days starts
Noesi 2-14 6.32 in day starts
CIN RL F5 -105 for me

barmeezee · May 9, 2015

Overs in Marquis pitched games have got me paid no reason to stop now goin over and team over for the home boys

Inspekdah · May 9, 2015

90 here in NY and 55 in Chicago?

Weird weather patterns.

GameHunter · May 9, 2015

Inspekdah said:
90 here in NY and 55 in Chicago?

Weird weather patterns.

90 in NY?

Not even close. Hasn't even hit 60 yet.

tuck321 · May 9, 2015

Whitley in the day 5.70 ERA based on around 23 innings

tuck321 · May 9, 2015

Yanks have had 1 4 game winning streak this season and tomorrow is SUNDAY.

Inspekdah · May 9, 2015

Chen pretty good day pitcher, right? Wind coming in from right should help keep those pop ups in the yard. Really, pathetic, that stadium is.

tuck321 · May 9, 2015

This season 10.1 innings 1.74 ERA
Need to look more but Baltimore is 4-0 on Saturday

tuck321 · May 9, 2015

Whitley on short sample 1.80 ERA with Gorman
Chen 3.86 on 7 innings.

Inspekdah · May 9, 2015

No McCan, A-Rod, Betances, or Miller today for Yanks.

tuck321 · May 9, 2015

NY has some bull pen issues today. Running short on time. half unit bet on Baltimore

Inspekdah · May 9, 2015

Chris Young good vs. lefties but Tex, Headley, and Beltran all below .150 vs. lefties and represent the meat of the order. Gardner/Ellsbury hitting well vs. everyone.

D-Woww · May 9, 2015

I took Rodon. Contrary to what somebody posted earlier in the thread I think he is a stud

Play2win · May 9, 2015

D-Woww said:
I took Rodon. Contrary to what somebody posted earlier in the thread I think he is a stud

agree

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