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Jul 16 Sat 2022

02:10 PM
965Chicago White SoxL. Lynn -R+1½
-190		+101O 9
-120
966Minnesota TwinsD. Bundy -R-1½
+165		-111U 9
+100
02:15 PM
951Cincinnati RedsN. Lodolo -L+1½
-135		+143O 9
+107
952St. Louis CardinalsM. Mikolas -R-1½
+115		-155U 9
-127
02:20 PM
953New York Mets - Game #1T. Walker -R-133
954Chicago Cubs - Game #1M. Stroman -R+123
03:10 PM
955Pittsburgh PiratesM. Keller -R+1½
-150		+108O 11½
-118
956Colorado RockiesJ. Urena -R-1½
+130		-118U 11½
-102
04:05 PM
957Atlanta BravesM. Fried -L-1½
-146		-235O 8½
-117
958Washington NationalsP. Espino -R+1½
+126		+212U 8½
-103
04:05 PM
969Seattle MarinersL. Gilbert -R-1½
+118		-135O 8½
-110
970Texas RangersS. Howard -R+1½
-138		+125U 8½
-110
04:10 PM
975Detroit TigersM. Pineda -R+1½
-145		+148O 8
-117
976Cleveland GuardiansC. Quantrill -R-1½
+125		-161U 8
-103
07:00 PM
981New York Mets - Game #2M. Scherzer -R-210
982Chicago Cubs - Game #2D. Smyly -L+1 Markets+192
07:15 PM
961Milwaukee BrewersE. Lauer -L+1½
-190		+115O 8
+100
962San Francisco GiantsA. Cobb -R-1½
+165		-125U 8
-120
07:15 PM
977Boston Red SoxN. Pivetta -R+1½
-146		+144O 8½
-115
978New York YankeesJ. Taillon -R-1½
+126		-156U 8½
-105
08:40 PM
963Arizona DiamondbacksT. Gilbert -L+1½
-135		+165O 8
-102
964San Diego PadresS. Manaea -L-1½
+115		-179U 8
-118
10:07 PM
979Los Angeles DodgersJ. Urias -L-1½
-114		-181O 8½
-110
980Los Angeles AngelsJ. Suarez -L+1½
-106		+166U 8½
-110
 
I’m gonna have to look closer at Lynn and see wtf going on with him, has he just lost it after the injury, still hurt, something? I’d really like to take the small plus money on CWS again, although Robert left game tonight so every time they start getting healthy another guy goes out! Still think they have a chance to win this division, it be better if they would fire TRL and if Lynn pitches liked he capable!
 
I remember way back in April this Lodolo kid pitching for reds had looked pretty awful so naturally with what appeared to be a scrub lefty vs cards and waino pitching in cincy where he always struggles I played the over and that kid came out and just mowed cards down coming right at them with a really good heater! I was like “who the fuck? What the fuck going on here?” Then he vanished until reappearing earlier this month! Lol.

Lodolo Has had 2 decent starts since returning, the question will basically be same as it was for greene in gm1, will cards now after seeing him fare much better? They did against Greene and I think he more talented than Lodolo. Reds hit Mikolas and waino pretty well. Kinda lean over.
 
Jose Urena has come back from the dead and had 2 really solid outings vs a couple lineups that way freaking better than the garbage pirates trotting out. The last start vs pads made for the 3rd time in his career he has pitched at coors (1st time as his home stadium), in those 3 starts he had QS in 2 of them so I’m not worried at all about him pitching here, he has proven the altitude and spacious park not a issue for him. Analytics have and never will like him cause he has never been much a strikeout pitcher despite having plenty good enough stuff. He does get a lot of ground balls and induces plenty of weak contact when pitching well. He has pretty bad career splits vs lefties but as we saw Friday night pirates lefties not exactly big leaguers as another guy who allows lefties a ops around .800 had very little trouble w them!! I just don’t think pirates gonna score many runs off him.

So then what we gonna get from Keller? I’m still a believer in his talent but it looks to me like another talented kid that gonna have to get out of pitt and onto a team with a good coaching staff if he ever gonna fully realize that potential! He has never pitched at coors which makes it damn near impossible to predict how he will do, just a hunch but I think he struggles against a rox team who swinging really hot bats this homestand! We saw them continue to tack on runs vs pirates pen in game 1 and I suspect that be a theme for this series as pirates pen not very good.

-120 feels really cheap and hell why not lay the -1.5 for +130 on a game totaled at 11.5? I think that the way to go, Rox-1.5 and maybe their team total over just in case urena turns back into a pumpkin!
 
Quick glance

Mikolas outs over
Walker k's
Pirates/Rox over
Braves -1.5 and tt over
Gilbert (M's) outs over
Snakes/Pads ff under
 
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Even tho I think Keller could struggle I gotta say 3.5 a pretty low k number for him. Even games he been awful he has got at least 4 k’s in most of them! As we see over and over again unless you simply can’t get out of a inning when teams play at coors they gonna let their starter eat some innings even when he giving up runs cause nobody wants their pen having to cover 5-6 innings at this place, not only wears them down but it a given at least 1-2 guys will get blown up! Keller has punched out at least 4 in 12 of his 15 starts and 7 of last 8. Rox only have a couple huge swing and miss guys but nobody immune to striking out these days.
 
So yanks get their crack at Pivetta today, since I thought he was pitching game 1 I already did the work here, yanks own him and will prob smack him around again in this one! Last 2 years he has made 4 starts vs yanks, pitched 18 innings and given up 17 runs! (Something crazy like that). He hasn’t displayed good form this month and yanks seeing him for 2nd consecutive start. Yanks Ff team total over 2.5 all day.
 
KJ said:
Quick glance

Mikolas outs over
Walker k's
Pirates/Rox over
Braves -1.5 and tt over
Gilbert (M's) outs over
Snakes/Pads ff under
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I don’t think I’m trusting Walker to pitch day after his regular start gets rained out. Why not just wait for mad max in gm2? He should punch out 10+ scrubbies!

We see where they set the numbers but think I prefer Gilbert k’s to outs vs rangers.
 
Damn, I didn’t realize seattle has won 12 straight and like a 20-3 run! Unlike the start of this hot stretch this current steak hasn’t just been scrubs either, took 2 off pads and 4 straight off jays! Guess I missed that series as it started day of surgery., wow: All a sudden they legit wild card contenders! Guess they figured it out half a season before I thought they would really take off next year!! They only -135 with our guy gilbert vs spencer Howard and that crappy rangers pen? Shoot, let the hot streak continue: same game parlay with Gilbert k’s or outs along with seattle ml sounds good to me!
 
2daBank said:
Damn, I didn’t realize seattle has won 12 straight and like a 20-3 run! Unlike the start of this hot stretch this current steak hasn’t just been scrubs either, took 2 off pads and 4 straight off jays! Guess I missed that series as it started day of surgery., wow: All a sudden they legit wild card contenders! Guess they figured it out half a season before I thought they would really take off next year!! They only -135 with our guy gilbert vs spencer Howard and that crappy rangers pen? Shoot, let the hot streak continue: same game parlay with Gilbert k’s or outs along with seattle ml sounds good to me!
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DK doesn't have outs in same game parlays. No ff either. But you can choose your k number
 
Play2win said:
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“Sports consultant”? You a tout bud or is that something else I hope?

Ponies like one the few things I actually will tail ppl I think know what they talking bout from time to time cause I haven’t the slightest idea how to cap it!! I dont hardly bet it outside triple crown and occasionally going to local track and flipping coins from reading a few programs, fun time tho!
 
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KJ said:
DK doesn't have outs in same game parlays. No ff either. But you can choose your k number
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I knew no FF’s. I havnt really started investigating what I can or can’t use very much cause it just started this past week where I can now do same game parlays with props at the casino!! They prob launched it while I was off but noticed it 1st day back there now a banner that says “same game parlays” when I go to click on which sport I want! Pretty exciting!!
 
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I’m not a tout lol talk to BAR about it
I’m a consultant for horse racing, college and pro football and college hoops
I research, working on writing but editor in chief handles editing and working on videos but that definitely not strong suit, not a great public speaker
 
KJ said:
DK doesn't have outs in same game parlays. No ff either. But you can choose your k number
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I don’t see anything for Gilbert yet. Hoping for a 5.5. Think I would pass if it 6.5. His out total one those ones that really tough for them, ya know he gonna go 6 innings 75% the time against weaker lineups but he doesn’t go past 6 enough where they can make his number 18.5 so they stuck making it 17.5 and juicing it, I havnt seen hardly any prices on props represent 75% win rate tho!! That why these things are so great!!
 
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Play2win said:
I’m not a tout lol talk to BAR about it
I’m a consultant for horse racing, college and pro football and college hoops
I research, working on writing but editor in chief handles editing and working on videos but that definitely not strong suit, not a great public speaker
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Cool man; super glad to hear it! I don’t like shitbag touts screaming bout how all the morons Need to pay for their picks to win money! Lol. So “consultant” just meaning you write articles for them with plays, but not charging for plays? That cool. I havnt really seen you write a whole lot about games you post but I know you a solid capper. GL
 
Man, I fucking slept like a hour now I’m back up and kicking again. It’s cause I can’t lay on my back! So fucjing sick of having to lay on my side to sleep!! If dr tells me on wed I gotta keep doing this I’m gonna tell him he gotta write me a script for fuckinv volume or zanny, if not I’m gonna go bat shit crazy!! lol
 
2daBank said:
Man, I fucking slept like a hour now I’m back up and kicking again. It’s cause I can’t lay on my back! So fucjing sick of having to lay on my side to sleep!! If dr tells me on wed I gotta keep doing this I’m gonna tell him he gotta write me a script for fuckinv volume or zanny, if not I’m gonna go bat shit crazy!! lol
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I'm wide awake again, slept several hours this afternoon but been up for the 1am golf coverage last couple nights and watched all of Saratoga races the first two days. So crash at 4pm, wake up at 7 and eat breakfast...finish with bases and now golf again. Wimbledon and British Open requires adjustments a chiropractor can't fix.
 
2daBank said:
Man, I fucking slept like a hour now I’m back up and kicking again. It’s cause I can’t lay on my back! So fucjing sick of having to lay on my side to sleep!! If dr tells me on wed I gotta keep doing this I’m gonna tell him he gotta write me a script for fuckinv volume or zanny, if not I’m gonna go bat shit crazy!! lol
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I'm wide awake again, slept several hours this afternoon but been up for the 1am golf coverage last couple nights and watched all of Saratoga races the first two days. So crash at 4pm, wake up at 7 and eat breakfast...finish with bases and now golf again. Wimbledon and British Open requires adjustments a chiropractor can't fix.
 
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KJ said:
I'm wide awake again, slept several hours this afternoon but been up for the 1am golf coverage last couple nights and watched all of Saratoga races the first two days. So crash at 4pm, wake up at 7 and eat breakfast...finish with bases and now golf again. Wimbledon and British Open requires adjustments a chiropractor can't fix.
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I don’t have mental energy left to cap anymore baseball tonight! I gotta get some sleep 1st, I’ve only had like 3 hours at most last 2 days! Lol.,
 
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2daBank said:
“Sports consultant”? You a tout bud or is that something else I hope?

Ponies like one the few things I actually will tail ppl I think know what they talking bout from time to time cause I haven’t the slightest idea how to cap it!! I dont hardly bet it outside triple crown and occasionally going to local track and flipping coins from reading a few programs, fun time tho!
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2daBank said:
Cool man; super glad to hear it! I don’t like shitbag touts screaming bout how all the morons Need to pay for their picks to win money! Lol. So “consultant” just meaning you write articles for them with plays, but not charging for plays? That cool. I havnt really seen you write a whole lot about games you post but I know you a solid capper. GL
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There’s plenty write ups around you’ll see I have done throughout years
When my children were born it sort of limited my time but search and ask around, I have posted a ton of content at many places over the years
 
Play2win said:
There’s plenty write ups around you’ll see I have done throughout years
When my children were born it sort of limited my time but search and ask around, I have posted a ton of content at many places over the years
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Lol. I believe you, I’m sure you capable, I just never recall you writing much, wasn’t saying you couldn’t.
 
Less than a year ago when sportsbooks became a thing here (Sept 9th I believe) in AZ we can now wager online. Still restricted on several courses, no SA, Del Mar, GG, Gulfstream, Pimlico) due to simulcasting...I use expressed. Found out a couple days ago how many points I've accumulated and it was just North of $500 which I could cash out immediately without betting! Nice gift.
 
KJ said:
Less than a year ago when sportsbooks became a thing here (Sept 9th I believe) in AZ we can now wager online. Still restricted on several courses, no SA, Del Mar, GG, Gulfstream, Pimlico) due to simulcasting...I use expressed. Found out a couple days ago how many points I've accumulated and it was just North of $500 which I could cash out immediately without betting! Nice gift.
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Fucking autocorrect. I use *xpressbet*

This phone posting blows
 
I swear since I’m up and ready to go to book when they open at 8 these pricks decide not to have half the damn pitchers up yet!! Had I slept better and woke up like 9 they woulda been up all night getting all the value sucked out of them:, My mom having something done to her car so I told her I’d meet her at shop and pick her up for breakfast while she waits, gonna royally piss me off if I gotta wait till after that to get bets in cause these lazy pricks don’t have all the props up yet!!
 
2daBank said:
I swear since I’m up and ready to go to book when they open at 8 these pricks decide not to have half the damn pitchers up yet!! Had I slept better and woke up like 9 they woulda been up all night getting all the value sucked out of them:, My mom having something done to her car so I told her I’d meet her at shop and pick her up for breakfast while she waits, gonna royally piss me off if I gotta wait till after that to get bets in cause these lazy pricks don’t have all the props up yet!!
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I'm live betting golf and can't figure out if it's breakfast or dinner time. Who delivers at 3:30?
 
KJ said:
Could use some IHOP or Waffle House but that's a delivery no no
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That where we going, Waffle House! I still got 4 freaking hours till meeting her at shop tho. I’m kinda hungry now, keep thinking bout the left over pizza in the fridge but then I won’t want breakfast, such dilemmas! Lol
 
These 4 hours gonna be super slow if punk as DK don’t post rest the pitcher props so I can run up there and bet before breakfast!!
 
What I need to do is start coffee and run to store to get some booze to put in it! Irish coffee would hit the spot right now! Just don’t feel like doing all that! lol
 
2daBank said:
That where we going, Waffle House! I still got 4 freaking hours till meeting her at shop tho. I’m kinda hungry now, keep thinking bout the left over pizza in the fridge but then I won’t want breakfast, such dilemmas! Lol
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I'd take Village Inn or Denny's right now but getting eggs delivered is on the Ralph list
 
Looks like lynn pitch mix is still fairly close to past seasons but his velo appears to be down a tick or 2 across all his pitches. I dunno if that more him basically in spring training still or he has lost something?? For a guy who throws a ton a different fastballs and never threw particularly hard for a FB pitcher losing a tick or 2 could be problematic. His swinging strike rate isn’t down much from rest his career but the k’s are, his babip is sky high right now but don’t think it bad luck as much as getting hit hard: the only thing I see that I’m confident shouod correct itself is his strand rate is crazy low right now, there no way 48% of baserunners gonna continue scoring on him but not sure that enough a silver lining to say he close to getting back to himself. I’d like to play CWS but think we gotta wait and make him show us something before backing lynn.
 
KJ said:
I'd take Village Inn or Denny's right now but getting eggs delivered is on the Ralph list
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Oh yea, no way I’d want breakfast delivered. I try to avoid all that delivery shit anyways, my old lady loves it but it seems like a huge waste of money to me so we in a constant battle!! She so loves watching the little car on her app bring her food!! Lol: I even went and picked up the pizza last night cause between delivery charge, tip, and now places offering better deals for carry out it like anywhere from 10-20 bucks cheaper to take the 5 min trip to get myself!! I’ll be damned, I can get my lazy butt up and go get it for that much!!
 
Just watching the golf with the morning coffee. Will be on Fried for sure. Will eventually play the Yankees, just taping up my sack for it. Might tail a strikeout play if there’s a good one out there.
 
The town of St Andrew's though looks like heaven if you like pubs and views
 
askias said:
Just watching the golf with the morning coffee. Will be on Fried for sure. Will eventually play the Yankees, just taping up my sack for it. Might tail a strikeout play if there’s a good one out there.
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Why not yanks Ff or fg tt? Less drama that way, less juice, and pretty sure they will smash Pivetta.
 
KJ said:
The town of St Andrew's though looks like heaven if you like pubs and views
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Man I shoulda turned the golf on sooner. Shit put me to sleep crazy fast! Now I gotta wait to make plays till after breakfast w moms tho cause I just woke up!!
 
askias said:
Just watching the golf with the morning coffee. Will be on Fried for sure. Will eventually play the Yankees, just taping up my sack for it. Might tail a strikeout play if there’s a good one out there.
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Manaea and Gilbert both over 5.5 k’s should be good, gotta get them before juice goes up tho! Manaea was ev money before I fell asleep now -125., Gilbert climbing also.
 
Thanks 2. Won some money with Swedish soccer this morning so feeling good. Always tough balancing discipline when you feel like there are 4 or 5 good plays out there.
 
Made it by casino after ditched my mom! Lol. Here what I played:

Gilbert ov 5.5 k’s
Gilbert ov 17.5 outs (was only -120, didn’t expect that, rather not play both but price was too good not to!)

Manaea ov 5.5 k’s
Keller ov 3.5 k’s

Rox -1.5
Rox tt over 5.5
Seattle Ff -.5 and fg ml
Yanks Ff tt ov 2.5
Mets gm 2 Ff -.5


Think that was everything. They didn’t have any props up for Scherzer, depending what kinda k number they hang I might go back!
 
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