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May 21 Sat 2022

01:05 PM
965Chicago White SoxD. Keuchel -L+1½
+100		+194O 9
-105
966New York YankeesN. Cortes -L-1½
-120		-213U 9
-115
02:20 PM
951Arizona DiamondbacksM. Bumgarner -L+128
952Chicago CubsJ. Steele -L-138
03:07 PM
979Cincinnati RedsH. Greene -R+1½
+105		+216O 8
-115
980Toronto Blue JaysA. Manoah -R-1½
-125		-240U 8
-105
04:05 PM
953San Diego PadresJ. Musgrove -R+1½
-165		+134O 7
-105
954San Francisco GiantsC. Rodon -L-1½
+145		-145U 7
-115
04:10 PM
967Seattle MarinersC. Flexen -R+1½
-145		+146O 9
-115
968Boston Red SoxG. Whitlock -R-1½
+125		-158U 9
-105
06:10 PM
957Atlanta BravesK. Wright -R-1½
+120		-141O 7½
-110
958Miami MarlinsE. Hernandez -R+1½
-140		+130U 7½
-110
06:10 PM
969Detroit TigersA. Faedo -R+1½
-125		+162O 8
-110
970Cleveland GuardiansS. Bieber -R-1½
+105		-176U 8
-110
06:35 PM
959St. Louis CardinalsM. Liberatore -L-1½
+115		-138O 9
+105
960Pittsburgh PiratesJ. Quintana -L+1½
-135		+128U 9
-125
07:05 PM
971Tampa Bay RaysJ. Springs -L-1½
+105		-145O 8½
-120
972Baltimore OriolesK. Bradish -R+1½
-125		+134U 8½
+100
07:10 PM
961Washington NationalsP. Corbin -L+1½
-120		+184O 7½
-120
962Milwaukee BrewersB. Woodruff -R-1½
+100		-201U 7½
+100
07:10 PM
973Texas RangersJ. Gray -R+1½
+100		+202O 7½
-120
974Houston AstrosJ. Verlander -R-1½
-120		-223U 7½
+100
07:10 PM
975Minnesota TwinsJ. Ryan -R-1½
+118		-143O 8
+100
976Kansas City RoyalsB. Keller -R+1½
-138		+132U 8
-120
09:07 PM
977Oakland AthleticsF. Montas -R+1½
-155		+141O 7½
-115
978Los Angeles AngelsM. Lorenzen -R-1½
+135		-153U 7½
-105
 
Yankees nighttime: .257 BA and .451 slugging

Yankees daytime: .224 BA and .373 slugging

Keuchel 2.43 ERA in six career starts in Yankee Stadium
 
VirginiaCavs said:
Yankees nighttime: .257 BA and .451 slugging

Yankees daytime: .224 BA and .373 slugging

Keuchel 2.43 ERA in six career starts in Yankee Stadium
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True re: Keuchel, but those number really were compiled when he was a different pitcher than he is now:


IYearGPAABRH2B3BHRSBCSBBSOSO/WBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
201413029372000005.241.233.310.5449100100.2806554
201512424031000009.125.125.167.2924000000.2001-20
2016126222310010451.25.136.269.182.4514200000.1772929
2017125231500000199.00.217.250.217.4675100001.3575331
2018125214710000372.33.333.400.381.7818000100.467126108
2021121193600010242.00.316.381.316.6976000001.40074103
Career615113813315002010393.90.225.273.261.53436400202.30753


IYearWLW-L%ERAGGSGFCGSHOSVIPHRERHRBBIBBSOHBPBKWPBFWHIPSO9SO/W
201401.0003.381101008.0733000500300.8755.6
2015101.0000.001100007.0300000900240.42911.6
2016101.0002.571100007.0322040500261.0006.41.25
2017101.0000.001100006.0510010900251.00013.59.00
201801.0007.201100005.0744030700252.00012.62.33
2021002.251100004.0631020400212.0009.02.00
Career32.6002.4366010037.0311310010039001511.1089.53.90
 
BiffTFinancial said:
True re: Keuchel, but those number really were compiled when he was a different pitcher than he is now:


IYearGPAABRH2B3BHRSBCSBBSOSO/WBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
201413029372000005.241.233.310.5449100100.2806554
201512424031000009.125.125.167.2924000000.2001-20
2016126222310010451.25.136.269.182.4514200000.1772929
2017125231500000199.00.217.250.217.4675100001.3575331
2018125214710000372.33.333.400.381.7818000100.467126108
2021121193600010242.00.316.381.316.6976000001.40074103
Career615113813315002010393.90.225.273.261.53436400202.30753


IYearWLW-L%ERAGGSGFCGSHOSVIPHRERHRBBIBBSOHBPBKWPBFWHIPSO9SO/W
201401.0003.381101008.0733000500300.8755.6
2015101.0000.001100007.0300000900240.42911.6
2016101.0002.571100007.0322040500261.0006.41.25
2017101.0000.001100006.0510010900251.00013.59.00
201801.0007.201100005.0744030700252.00012.62.33
2021002.251100004.0631020400212.0009.02.00
Career32.6002.4366010037.0311310010039001511.1089.53.90
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Good point
 
Kinda surprised yanks offense been worse during the day, I always have instant over lean for day games in the Bronx bandbox!! Didn’t think either starter was gonna be very good facing these lineups (who match up well) in b2b starts. Anyways doesn’t matter as I’m late to the party, just caught me off guard seeing the post bout their daytime offense being worse, @VirginiaCavs can you give me their daytime numbers just at home? (Future reference).
 
twinkie13 said:
Yea talk to me guys. I follow AL much more but that price seemed wild to me as well
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I just don't pay much attention to the NL East to even have noticed it. I'm sure it's priced that way for a reason.

Since bank isn't around, parlayed Rodon o6.5 ks with the Avs tonight at +164. Gotta get creative with some of these prices.
 
2daBank said:
Slept in and had bunch of errands had to run this morning w the woman:,
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Been so groggy all morning I'm just now getting around to looking at anything. Was hurting the eyes to look at lines. Really sucks we can't bet on the Preakness in AZ. State government here still can't figure it out.
 
KJ said:
I just don't pay much attention to the NL East to even have noticed it. I'm sure it's priced that way for a reason.

Since bank isn't around, parlayed Rodon o6.5 ks with the Avs tonight at +164. Gotta get creative with some of these prices.
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Yep. Boxing is fucking me. Benavidez by KO is like -650….not even sure If that’s worth tying into anything
 
KJ said:
Been so groggy all morning I'm just now getting around to looking at anything. Was hurting the eyes to look at lines. Really sucks we can't bet on the Preakness in AZ. State government here still can't figure it out.
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Damn. They won’t even let ML plays?
No OTB?
 
twinkie13 said:
Damn. They won’t even let ML plays?
No OTB?
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We have OTB but certain tracks run by some satellite company require that every OTB in the state show them or none at all. Pimlico and Gulfstream are the two big ones out East, we can't get any of the Cali tracks (SA, Delmar, Golden Gate at least)
 
KJ said:
Has Corbin just fallen off the map? Haven't paid much attention but that number is ridiculous
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He been pretty awful, the walks have really spiked. Crazy his hr per fly ball rate Is significantly lower than rest his career, that about only thing, his hard hit rate higher (again doesn’t line up w the lower hr rate), swing and miss a career low, there actually things that point to his redic 6.28 era not getting much better. His xfip a more reasonable 4.40 and while there certainly a few stats that should get better for him there things like the hr rate that likely to spike.

Woodruff been pretty bad himself. I think there more good signs for him than Corbin but there also the fact he has gotten to face pirates and reds both twice, having those numbers w more than half your starts vs those scrubs not good! Lol. Over 7.5 real tempting, Is it too square considering it be pretty easy to look at both pitchers era’s and play it? I dunno.
 
I'd have to do offshore and it's not worth the headache for me just for horses here and there
 
2daBank said:
Kinda surprised yanks offense been worse during the day, I always have instant over lean for day games in the Bronx bandbox!! Didn’t think either starter was gonna be very good facing these lineups (who match up well) in b2b starts. Anyways doesn’t matter as I’m late to the party, just caught me off guard seeing the post bout their daytime offense being worse, @VirginiaCavs can you give me their daytime numbers just at home? (Future reference).
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Not sure I can do that, but i‘ll keep digging…
 
fuck, id like montas ov 6.5 k's cept for that ugly little fact he facing laa in b2b starts.. after mowing down 12 halo hitters in 6 innings of 2 run ball it very tough to trust he can have another similar game vs what has become a tough lineup for rhp's. He has pitched very well vs them but i so hate the b2b start aspect.
 
guess im just gonna pass on Montas, really want to play his k prop over but i know i dont do well when these pitchers have to face same team in b2b starts, unless i play the opposite the 1st start which not what i lean here. could be a sneaky good over 7.5 play with montas and lorenzen both pitching really well vs these lineups last time out.
 
Oh Mfer. I guess bader was a late scratch, that sucks, he would be up with guys on and good against lefties but instead Dickerson playing for him.
 
Goldsmidt is on freaking fire. He on a 14 game hit streak, 8 of those games been multi hit, 4 bombs and 16 rbi in that span as well. Don’t even know how many doubles, a bunch.
 
Liberatore not looking very impressive. I know it his 1st start but I been skeptical of that trade from the jump, tampa doesn’t make a habit of trading away young stud pitching.
 
2daBank said:
Goldsmidt is on freaking fire. He on a 14 game hit streak, 8 of those games been multi hit, 4 bombs and 16 rbi in that span as well. Don’t even know how many doubles, a bunch.
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That's wild. I think Rafael Devers is on 17 or so game hit streak. Crazy in todays MLB
 
so pirates are favs despite a starting pitcher who hasnt won a game since last august, before that he hadnt won a game since end of may last year! I actually like Brubaker more than lot of ppl do but tough to swallow a guy laying -130 who has won 2 games since may of last year!! Kuhl had been pitching really well up until getting shelled by san fran in his last 2 starts. Obviously pirates lineup a lot easier to navigate, id suspect he has a pretty good start vs his former team. there is the problem of Rockies sporting a 5-10 road record and that after they started 4-1 on the season! by my math that makes them 1-9 their last 10 road games. So we got a team who much worse on the road vs a pitcher who has won 2 games in his last 25 starts and he a fav! lol
 
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