Last week I was guility of overthinking alot of plays but as Joe Pub said at least the few I put in won. Tenny 1st H +7 , Tenny +11 pushed and the 2nd Quarter Under.
4:30 Seattle @ GB :
I think like everyone I was suprised to see some of these 2nd Round lines. Then I start looking at the whole body of work . The picture didnt become that much clearer but some things seemed to make sense.
The opponents that these teams seem to have in common in a relatively close space of time is Chi and STL. I bring up the space of time because playing a team in week 2 isnt the same as playing against them in week14. Now SEA played these 11-18 and 11-25 while GB played them 12-16 and 12-23. The time proximity is close but honestly I would have liked it to have been closer.
The Hawks hosted Chicago as 6 pt favs and won by 7. Struggling early before pulling away late and holding off CHi's mini comeback. Then @ STL they were 3 pt favs and won by 4 amid sloppy play by STL. We all know about the fumbled exchange on 4th and 1 that lost the game. If you look closer Frerrote was terrible that day. His only TD drives were a 1 play handoff to Jackson that he took for 53 yds and short field drive starting at the 30 of SEA after a fumbled punt. So there were a few Frerotte miscues outside of the the last play. He took a sack late in the game with the lead on SEA 35. Indoors thats a makeable 52yd fg , when they settled for an easy FG Frerotte had them 1st goal at the 1 bit didnt get them in the end zone. Then on SEA 1st offensive TD it was setup by a Frerotte INT. I think when GB played both they were better teams.
Well GB played @ STL layed a hefty 7 or 7.5 pts and won 33-14. Now it was back and forth early and GB didnt play a perfect game by any means but they still won convincingly. Both Bulger and Jackson played. The following week they went into Chicago a team that plays them very well and had rediscovered there defense and lost SU in sort of a meaningless game for GB though they had revenge & possible 1st place seed. However while GB played terrible they were listed as 9 pt favs and I would think if they played that game again Chi would still be around TD dogs. Last road game of the year and its not suprising GB didnt play well after it had nothing much to gain. Chi had 240 yds on 59 plays which is basically 4 yds a play. Favre was quoted as saying that in 17 years it was the WORST playing conditions he has ever played IN. If you dont think it was a fluky then register this GB had NOT had a punt blocked in 12 years that day they had 2. The Bears TD drives went 55 and 28 yds plus they had Urlachers 86 yd pick 6 which took point from GB and gave them to Chi and a blocked punt for a TD. Sloppy game. GB did have a shot at the #1 seed but I think motivation was slim that day with the conditions and the team who fucked up less would win.
Now as I have mentioned SEA stunk on the road this year and didnt even play tough competition 3-5 SU . As I have said repeatedly they barely beat two backup QBs thanks to there late mistakes. Frerotte fumbles the exchange on 4th and 1 and Feely after Westbrook starts them on SEA 14 forces a pass that gets picked. Other then that they beat SF!! Imagine if they were 1-7 away , they probably wouldnt be here. They lost late @ ATL , @ Car , @ Cle , @ Pitt , @ Ari. At Carolina it was certainly a game where you could understand being flat but CAR is terrible! The game was scoreless to start the 4th and SEA scored its first points with 8 to play and a BS TD with 1 second. The following week Dallas cruised in Car jumping out to a 14-0 lead before TO get hurt and doing enough to win 20-13. They jumped ahead of Cle but allowed the browns to comeback to tie it and win in OT. For all the talk about SEA defense CLE had 6 possession that were Goal to go and converted 4. The game @ Pitt I know people will say its before they chaned philosophies but I dont see the air attack leading to better results from the SEA team. They were playing weak teams with injuries who they should have beaten by basiclly showing up. Anyway Pitt played minus two key starters Ward and Palomalu. Still 6 pts favs they shut the Hawks out 21-0. They fell behind ARI 17-0 and rallied to take the lead but eventually lose. Not a bad loss by any means cause ARI was healthy but falling behind 17-0 early??
Last year when SEA traveled to Chi they were 9.5 pt dogs. While Kearney has helped the defense it still has not improved that much versus quality opponents IMO. The offense has lost Darrell Jackson and we dont know about Branch yet. Though Hackett has emerged. Alexander seems to have regressed on the ground so in general I think SEA offense has regressed especially if Branch is out. Now GB to me has a better defense then what CHI ended the season with last year and clearly a much better offense. Yet we have a cheaper line.
The only real injuries seem to be Jason Spitz @ RG and Branch at WR. Still I wonder about Hasselback's thumb especially in cold weather. One bad hit and that mother f'er will hurt.We saw him shaking a few times vs Wash and the weather was mild. Not to mention he had his thigh pad shattered for a nice bruise.
Do we see a recreation of the blowout in Xhibition season? GB won 48-13 backups vs backups.
Only 6 teams scored more then 17 vs GB this year and only SD and Chi in GB. SEA only held STL to 19 , Car 13 and SF 3 otherwise the rest had 21 or better...and STL should have scored 20++ pus easily so all they did was shutdown terrible SF and Carolina' offenses.
Ryan Grant emerged late and really that is when this team took it to the next level. Hawks allow 4 YPC on the ground away and we have seen Grant bust some real big runs late. GB will be tough to run at home 3.4 YPC. GB has scored 30 + 5 times at home with all three non occassions being early 20 vs Chi , 17 vs Wash and 16 vs Philly.
Its supposed to COLD on SAT high of 26 and low of 11 so with a late afternoon tip you would think bewlow 20 degrees. I think one of SEA great secret weapons is Nate Burleson in the return game. He is dangerous and must be kept in check. SEA did nothing on offense to inspire me and this is a tougher challenge. There TD drives started in Redskin territory.
It is really hard to fade a SEA team that has so much talent but I just dont like the whole product. Dont expect a blowout but GB by say 10-14 (28-17).
Lots of time to figure out what is going on and I will take my time in deciding.
Note: In reference to common opponents . If I had to line SEA @ CHI I would have guess Bears -1.5 . Remember this team was dogged @ Philly w/o McNabb. So If made GB 6 or -6.5 @ Chi today you would be looking at about 8.5 if GB hosted SEA. Then we had -3 and -7.5 vs STL which would make me guess about -8 / -8.5 if GB hosted SEA based on that....everything seems in line....
Strong Lean : GB -8:cheers:
4:30 Seattle @ GB :
I think like everyone I was suprised to see some of these 2nd Round lines. Then I start looking at the whole body of work . The picture didnt become that much clearer but some things seemed to make sense.
The opponents that these teams seem to have in common in a relatively close space of time is Chi and STL. I bring up the space of time because playing a team in week 2 isnt the same as playing against them in week14. Now SEA played these 11-18 and 11-25 while GB played them 12-16 and 12-23. The time proximity is close but honestly I would have liked it to have been closer.
The Hawks hosted Chicago as 6 pt favs and won by 7. Struggling early before pulling away late and holding off CHi's mini comeback. Then @ STL they were 3 pt favs and won by 4 amid sloppy play by STL. We all know about the fumbled exchange on 4th and 1 that lost the game. If you look closer Frerrote was terrible that day. His only TD drives were a 1 play handoff to Jackson that he took for 53 yds and short field drive starting at the 30 of SEA after a fumbled punt. So there were a few Frerotte miscues outside of the the last play. He took a sack late in the game with the lead on SEA 35. Indoors thats a makeable 52yd fg , when they settled for an easy FG Frerotte had them 1st goal at the 1 bit didnt get them in the end zone. Then on SEA 1st offensive TD it was setup by a Frerotte INT. I think when GB played both they were better teams.
Well GB played @ STL layed a hefty 7 or 7.5 pts and won 33-14. Now it was back and forth early and GB didnt play a perfect game by any means but they still won convincingly. Both Bulger and Jackson played. The following week they went into Chicago a team that plays them very well and had rediscovered there defense and lost SU in sort of a meaningless game for GB though they had revenge & possible 1st place seed. However while GB played terrible they were listed as 9 pt favs and I would think if they played that game again Chi would still be around TD dogs. Last road game of the year and its not suprising GB didnt play well after it had nothing much to gain. Chi had 240 yds on 59 plays which is basically 4 yds a play. Favre was quoted as saying that in 17 years it was the WORST playing conditions he has ever played IN. If you dont think it was a fluky then register this GB had NOT had a punt blocked in 12 years that day they had 2. The Bears TD drives went 55 and 28 yds plus they had Urlachers 86 yd pick 6 which took point from GB and gave them to Chi and a blocked punt for a TD. Sloppy game. GB did have a shot at the #1 seed but I think motivation was slim that day with the conditions and the team who fucked up less would win.
Now as I have mentioned SEA stunk on the road this year and didnt even play tough competition 3-5 SU . As I have said repeatedly they barely beat two backup QBs thanks to there late mistakes. Frerotte fumbles the exchange on 4th and 1 and Feely after Westbrook starts them on SEA 14 forces a pass that gets picked. Other then that they beat SF!! Imagine if they were 1-7 away , they probably wouldnt be here. They lost late @ ATL , @ Car , @ Cle , @ Pitt , @ Ari. At Carolina it was certainly a game where you could understand being flat but CAR is terrible! The game was scoreless to start the 4th and SEA scored its first points with 8 to play and a BS TD with 1 second. The following week Dallas cruised in Car jumping out to a 14-0 lead before TO get hurt and doing enough to win 20-13. They jumped ahead of Cle but allowed the browns to comeback to tie it and win in OT. For all the talk about SEA defense CLE had 6 possession that were Goal to go and converted 4. The game @ Pitt I know people will say its before they chaned philosophies but I dont see the air attack leading to better results from the SEA team. They were playing weak teams with injuries who they should have beaten by basiclly showing up. Anyway Pitt played minus two key starters Ward and Palomalu. Still 6 pts favs they shut the Hawks out 21-0. They fell behind ARI 17-0 and rallied to take the lead but eventually lose. Not a bad loss by any means cause ARI was healthy but falling behind 17-0 early??
Last year when SEA traveled to Chi they were 9.5 pt dogs. While Kearney has helped the defense it still has not improved that much versus quality opponents IMO. The offense has lost Darrell Jackson and we dont know about Branch yet. Though Hackett has emerged. Alexander seems to have regressed on the ground so in general I think SEA offense has regressed especially if Branch is out. Now GB to me has a better defense then what CHI ended the season with last year and clearly a much better offense. Yet we have a cheaper line.
The only real injuries seem to be Jason Spitz @ RG and Branch at WR. Still I wonder about Hasselback's thumb especially in cold weather. One bad hit and that mother f'er will hurt.We saw him shaking a few times vs Wash and the weather was mild. Not to mention he had his thigh pad shattered for a nice bruise.
Do we see a recreation of the blowout in Xhibition season? GB won 48-13 backups vs backups.
Only 6 teams scored more then 17 vs GB this year and only SD and Chi in GB. SEA only held STL to 19 , Car 13 and SF 3 otherwise the rest had 21 or better...and STL should have scored 20++ pus easily so all they did was shutdown terrible SF and Carolina' offenses.
Ryan Grant emerged late and really that is when this team took it to the next level. Hawks allow 4 YPC on the ground away and we have seen Grant bust some real big runs late. GB will be tough to run at home 3.4 YPC. GB has scored 30 + 5 times at home with all three non occassions being early 20 vs Chi , 17 vs Wash and 16 vs Philly.
Its supposed to COLD on SAT high of 26 and low of 11 so with a late afternoon tip you would think bewlow 20 degrees. I think one of SEA great secret weapons is Nate Burleson in the return game. He is dangerous and must be kept in check. SEA did nothing on offense to inspire me and this is a tougher challenge. There TD drives started in Redskin territory.
It is really hard to fade a SEA team that has so much talent but I just dont like the whole product. Dont expect a blowout but GB by say 10-14 (28-17).
Lots of time to figure out what is going on and I will take my time in deciding.
Note: In reference to common opponents . If I had to line SEA @ CHI I would have guess Bears -1.5 . Remember this team was dogged @ Philly w/o McNabb. So If made GB 6 or -6.5 @ Chi today you would be looking at about 8.5 if GB hosted SEA. Then we had -3 and -7.5 vs STL which would make me guess about -8 / -8.5 if GB hosted SEA based on that....everything seems in line....
Strong Lean : GB -8:cheers:
