Lets start with the Heisman.
This is going to be very interesting next week. I guess Tua was still -1000 this week to win it? Well damn, the Kylar tickets and to a lesser extent Haskins tickets are not totally dead. In fact, I would think that Kylar would be a slight favorite right now. The big question is....how many people turned their votes in before today? Also, how will some Haskins votes affect the other two?
1. Tua -- Great year, played the least due to blowouts. Injury the last month or so plus some better teams and he was just average compared to his first two months.
2. Murray -- Stat-machine but has to be with that defense. He rarely wasn't playing near full games it seemed
3. Haskins -- The several week lull killed him otherwise these last two weeks would have sealed it.
My personal returns (also took AJ very small) would be down a bit if Tua wins, up a fair amount with Kylar, up huge with Haskins. I hedged my initial investments with Tua at -275 to cover Kylar and Haskins bets (that would leave the small AJ play as the net loss). Overall though, so many factors this is going to be a very close vote methinks.
So, I know a lot of you guys have futures on Tua at actually positive numbers from before or early in the season as well as Kylar. This should be interesting for all.
Okay, on to the CFB Playoff.
This is the final 4 and the only fair final 4.
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma
5. OSU
6. Georgia
I could switch Notre Dame with Clemson easily. Now, ND played once less game. With that being said, their signature win is versus a top 8 team. Clemson doesn't have that. They have a few solid ones but nothing of great substance. They are good though and they won all their games.
Oklahoma was ranked above OSU starting the week so nothing should change there. No one had a crazy blowout today, both won the game in the 2nd half/4th quarter.
Now, lets back up a bit....
Kirby Smart is the biggest dumbass this side of Franklin I have seen at a big program this year. First, he got conservative in the 2h again. Second, that fake punt was ludicrous. Take that game to OT and go win a game against Jalen Hurts. It cannot be that he saw something to take advantage of, as Bama was in safe mode from what I saw. He lost that game today, the kids did not. But, that is all part of it....
Which brings us to the next point. We need to throw out power ratings or who we think should be in playoff. This is about winning games, bottom line. If you cannot win your games, you cannot be in the playoff. It is simple as that. Lets look at the contenders...
Bama/Clemson/Notre Dame = did not lose, P5 schools ... they are in
UCF = doesn't fit the secret criteria of P5 only...
OU = One loss, which they avenged to a top 15 team. They won their conference
OSU = One loss, won their conference. Their loss was a shellacking though to a .500 team
Georgia = TWO LOSSES, No conference title. They also got just hammered in one of their losses.
So, this is an easy exercise. UCF gets eliminated because the NCAA isn't fair. Georgia gets eliminated because they have 2 losses and did not win their conference.
SIMPLE -- This really cannot be debated.
OU/OSU was decided not just last week but in how low they kept OSU till they magically gelled in the last 10-12 days.
Okay, those are your four....
So, the posturing for Georgia started right away on CBS after the game. You have to expect that as they are SEC Central. Well, not only do they think Georgia should be in the playoff, they think that they should MOVE UP to #3 spot ahead of Notre Dame. Yes, okay, again this is CBS so I turned it off because it was so laughable.
I then started watching Pitt/Clemson tonight. One guy people hate but I like is Herbie. He is more objective than many think. I was waiting for a normal statement and here comes Herbie with the exact same thing about Georgia moving up after a LOSS to the 3 spot.
Seriously, wtf? This is intentional as hell go create a narrative. Well, as I have said for weeks, this is why LSU was place holding at 6, 7 and now 10 even with multiple losses. This is to make the strength of the conference seem better. I am not trying to knock LSU, they had an excellent year, but they should be about 11-13 the last several weeks.
Anyways, this is disorganized but a good time for a personal rant thread. Retro advised these are good, hehe.
Some quick rants...
-Today was a quarterfinal game for Bama and Georgia in a perfect world but moreso for Georgia.
-If Georgia had won, and Bama was saddled with one loss, yes I expected them to be a lock at #4 since even though they lost their conference. It isn't right, but it would have happened.
-Georgia had their chance, they blew it.
-Stop politicking Kirby, you owe each kid in that room a personal apology for your FOOLISHNESS.
-Going back to 'had their chance'... all of you old-timers remember 2006 when Urban campaigned the Gators into the title game. The biggest thing then, and I understand was there should be no rematch of OSU-UM that year even though that was literally 1 vs 2.. (no conference championship game yet)
-SEC Georgia played Auburn and LSU in crossovers this year. With the limited SEC schedule of 8 games, they missed another potential tough game or a resume building game. They played Umass instead. These conferences need to get uniform.
-Back to uniform... I have said for a few years now...The SEC is smart with playing less games in conference and having that basically bye week in November. They are ahead of the curve, no doubt.
-Now, if this travesty happens and Georgia does make it that is a crock of shit if they go to 3rd seed to avoid the Bama rematch right away. I hate Notre Dame, but that would be some bullshit for them.
-I said it many times this week and in the in-game today... new system is easy... but I'll spell it out in full....
8 conferences, 8 auto-bids or you can do your main 5 then at-large.
You must be a P5 team and in a conference.
Notre Dame, you have to join ACC in football or whatever conference or you are not eligible.
I am only using p5 because they are not letting small schools in regardless. This is all about money, bottom line.
I am not worried about travel or anything like that for students to watch games. It is the fans with disposable income that travel.
You can do the quarterfinals the week after conference 'ships or find somewhere attractive during bowl season. The playoffs will be in January using say Thurs/Fri/Mon nights. The quarters will be played at the higher seed venue. They need to develop a computer system to tank the teams 1-8. There will be no human rankings for this.
Yes, I said home venues. If Florida has to travel to South Bend for a game in December, then ole well. You need to play better before that and you would have a home game. It is what it is...
You can do semis and finals like we do now.
Simple, now you have your P5 champion each year. The teams playing the best that can win 2 games versus legit competition will be in the title game. There will be much less controversy.
If I am forgetting something, so be it but that is enough ranting for now....well for a minute...
I will say this, if a 2 loss non conference champion makes it in over 2 different P5 conference championship winners with 1 loss each I will have to recuse myself from watching the playoffs. My bowl season will end New Years day or whatever. I promise you that, I will not watch.
General Rants:
-Get Gary Danielson off TV. He used to be a great commentator at ABC. He has gotten worse and worse at CBS. If I was a UGAA alum/fan today I would have been incensed with how he was favoring Bama. It was nauseating.
-Please don't think I am hating on Georgia... they are easily my favorite SEC team and have been since 2003 LSU.
-Good for Jalen Hurts. I mean, two huge plays on roll outs really saved the day then the GW run. That is a feel good story for sure.
-PLEASE remember when lines start popping tomorrow/monday that suspensions, injuries and guys sitting out for draft will happen. Be smart. I understand getting a number but have an understanding of what could possibly happen with these teams as far as injuries and NFL. Read. It is fundamental. Now, kids will go home for a bit and be knuckleheads. It happens...
-Motivation, motivation and MOTIVATION when capping the bowls.
-Okay, if you made it this far, congrats and poor yourself a celebratory drink of your choice or whatever you divulge in.
Night...
This is going to be very interesting next week. I guess Tua was still -1000 this week to win it? Well damn, the Kylar tickets and to a lesser extent Haskins tickets are not totally dead. In fact, I would think that Kylar would be a slight favorite right now. The big question is....how many people turned their votes in before today? Also, how will some Haskins votes affect the other two?
1. Tua -- Great year, played the least due to blowouts. Injury the last month or so plus some better teams and he was just average compared to his first two months.
2. Murray -- Stat-machine but has to be with that defense. He rarely wasn't playing near full games it seemed
3. Haskins -- The several week lull killed him otherwise these last two weeks would have sealed it.
My personal returns (also took AJ very small) would be down a bit if Tua wins, up a fair amount with Kylar, up huge with Haskins. I hedged my initial investments with Tua at -275 to cover Kylar and Haskins bets (that would leave the small AJ play as the net loss). Overall though, so many factors this is going to be a very close vote methinks.
So, I know a lot of you guys have futures on Tua at actually positive numbers from before or early in the season as well as Kylar. This should be interesting for all.
Okay, on to the CFB Playoff.
This is the final 4 and the only fair final 4.
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma
5. OSU
6. Georgia
I could switch Notre Dame with Clemson easily. Now, ND played once less game. With that being said, their signature win is versus a top 8 team. Clemson doesn't have that. They have a few solid ones but nothing of great substance. They are good though and they won all their games.
Oklahoma was ranked above OSU starting the week so nothing should change there. No one had a crazy blowout today, both won the game in the 2nd half/4th quarter.
Now, lets back up a bit....
Kirby Smart is the biggest dumbass this side of Franklin I have seen at a big program this year. First, he got conservative in the 2h again. Second, that fake punt was ludicrous. Take that game to OT and go win a game against Jalen Hurts. It cannot be that he saw something to take advantage of, as Bama was in safe mode from what I saw. He lost that game today, the kids did not. But, that is all part of it....
Which brings us to the next point. We need to throw out power ratings or who we think should be in playoff. This is about winning games, bottom line. If you cannot win your games, you cannot be in the playoff. It is simple as that. Lets look at the contenders...
Bama/Clemson/Notre Dame = did not lose, P5 schools ... they are in
UCF = doesn't fit the secret criteria of P5 only...
OU = One loss, which they avenged to a top 15 team. They won their conference
OSU = One loss, won their conference. Their loss was a shellacking though to a .500 team
Georgia = TWO LOSSES, No conference title. They also got just hammered in one of their losses.
So, this is an easy exercise. UCF gets eliminated because the NCAA isn't fair. Georgia gets eliminated because they have 2 losses and did not win their conference.
SIMPLE -- This really cannot be debated.
OU/OSU was decided not just last week but in how low they kept OSU till they magically gelled in the last 10-12 days.
Okay, those are your four....
So, the posturing for Georgia started right away on CBS after the game. You have to expect that as they are SEC Central. Well, not only do they think Georgia should be in the playoff, they think that they should MOVE UP to #3 spot ahead of Notre Dame. Yes, okay, again this is CBS so I turned it off because it was so laughable.
I then started watching Pitt/Clemson tonight. One guy people hate but I like is Herbie. He is more objective than many think. I was waiting for a normal statement and here comes Herbie with the exact same thing about Georgia moving up after a LOSS to the 3 spot.
Seriously, wtf? This is intentional as hell go create a narrative. Well, as I have said for weeks, this is why LSU was place holding at 6, 7 and now 10 even with multiple losses. This is to make the strength of the conference seem better. I am not trying to knock LSU, they had an excellent year, but they should be about 11-13 the last several weeks.
Anyways, this is disorganized but a good time for a personal rant thread. Retro advised these are good, hehe.
Some quick rants...
-Today was a quarterfinal game for Bama and Georgia in a perfect world but moreso for Georgia.
-If Georgia had won, and Bama was saddled with one loss, yes I expected them to be a lock at #4 since even though they lost their conference. It isn't right, but it would have happened.
-Georgia had their chance, they blew it.
-Stop politicking Kirby, you owe each kid in that room a personal apology for your FOOLISHNESS.
-Going back to 'had their chance'... all of you old-timers remember 2006 when Urban campaigned the Gators into the title game. The biggest thing then, and I understand was there should be no rematch of OSU-UM that year even though that was literally 1 vs 2.. (no conference championship game yet)
-SEC Georgia played Auburn and LSU in crossovers this year. With the limited SEC schedule of 8 games, they missed another potential tough game or a resume building game. They played Umass instead. These conferences need to get uniform.
-Back to uniform... I have said for a few years now...The SEC is smart with playing less games in conference and having that basically bye week in November. They are ahead of the curve, no doubt.
-Now, if this travesty happens and Georgia does make it that is a crock of shit if they go to 3rd seed to avoid the Bama rematch right away. I hate Notre Dame, but that would be some bullshit for them.
-I said it many times this week and in the in-game today... new system is easy... but I'll spell it out in full....
8 conferences, 8 auto-bids or you can do your main 5 then at-large.
You must be a P5 team and in a conference.
Notre Dame, you have to join ACC in football or whatever conference or you are not eligible.
I am only using p5 because they are not letting small schools in regardless. This is all about money, bottom line.
I am not worried about travel or anything like that for students to watch games. It is the fans with disposable income that travel.
You can do the quarterfinals the week after conference 'ships or find somewhere attractive during bowl season. The playoffs will be in January using say Thurs/Fri/Mon nights. The quarters will be played at the higher seed venue. They need to develop a computer system to tank the teams 1-8. There will be no human rankings for this.
Yes, I said home venues. If Florida has to travel to South Bend for a game in December, then ole well. You need to play better before that and you would have a home game. It is what it is...
You can do semis and finals like we do now.
Simple, now you have your P5 champion each year. The teams playing the best that can win 2 games versus legit competition will be in the title game. There will be much less controversy.
If I am forgetting something, so be it but that is enough ranting for now....well for a minute...
I will say this, if a 2 loss non conference champion makes it in over 2 different P5 conference championship winners with 1 loss each I will have to recuse myself from watching the playoffs. My bowl season will end New Years day or whatever. I promise you that, I will not watch.
General Rants:
-Get Gary Danielson off TV. He used to be a great commentator at ABC. He has gotten worse and worse at CBS. If I was a UGAA alum/fan today I would have been incensed with how he was favoring Bama. It was nauseating.
-Please don't think I am hating on Georgia... they are easily my favorite SEC team and have been since 2003 LSU.
-Good for Jalen Hurts. I mean, two huge plays on roll outs really saved the day then the GW run. That is a feel good story for sure.
-PLEASE remember when lines start popping tomorrow/monday that suspensions, injuries and guys sitting out for draft will happen. Be smart. I understand getting a number but have an understanding of what could possibly happen with these teams as far as injuries and NFL. Read. It is fundamental. Now, kids will go home for a bit and be knuckleheads. It happens...
-Motivation, motivation and MOTIVATION when capping the bowls.
-Okay, if you made it this far, congrats and poor yourself a celebratory drink of your choice or whatever you divulge in.
Night...
