Ncaa Cfb Thursday Week One


NCAA CFB 2002-2003
Sides 118-88 +70.28 UNITS

NCAA CFB 2003-2004
Sides 124-103 +75.42 UNITS
Teasers/Pleasers/Parlays 1-6 +10.00 UNITS
Total 125-109 +85.42 UNITS

NCAA CFB 2004-2005
Sides 111-109 –18.18 UNITS
Player Props - 62-44 +90.10 UNITS
Teasers/Pleasers/Parlays - 7-9 +4.60 UNITS
Total 173-153 +76.52 UNITS

NCAA CFB 2005-2006
Sides 60-50 +35.26 UNITS
Player Props 40-17 +79.37 UNITS
Total 100-67 +114.63 UNITS

4 Year TOTAL +346.85 UNITS

All plays usually 1-5 units. I will hammer a play or prop 3-4 a year if it looks tasty. I don't think I've ever lost on a play more then 5 units on my time here.

Thursday, 6:00 P.M (ET) on ESPN 2

Tidbits on Central Michigan:

The Chippewas had its best season last year since 1998 finishing 6-5. This will only be the 7th night game for them and the crowd should be fired up with this game being a nationally televised game. While the stadium seats 30,000 fans the avg attendance for the Chippewas was only 16,000 last year. This will be the first ACC team to ever visit Kelly/Shorts stadium. The Chippewas going into this game are 2-5 ATS vs BCS schools in the last 5 years. BC will have a brand new DC and OC in this opening contest. 3rd year coach Brian Kelly had been calling the plays the last two years. CM was penalized almost double the yardage of its opponents last year.

Tidbits on Boston College:

The Eagles won their 6th consecutive bowl game and had their second 9 win season in a row under 10 year head coach Tom O’Brien. BC was 7-2 ATS as the favorite last year. The Eagles have won 11 of the last 14 matchups vs the MAC. BC is 5-2 ATS in OOC games the last two years.

Central Michigan Offense vs Boston College Defense:

CM finished 77th in the country in scoring offense with 23.6 ppg. They return 7 players in all on offense. RB Ontario Sneed and his 1,065 yards and 8 TDs plus 51 catches for 433 yards does return as does 4 of its OL, and 2 of their top 4 WRs from last year. Just not sure how they are going to replace QB Kent Smith early on. He was probably the best player in the conference last year. Sophmore Brian Brunner is the front runner but he's thrown only 3 collegiate passes. Losing Smith is huge for CM because not only was he a great thrower he could run as well (443 yards and 7 TDs). This will be a tough matchup for Brunner to make his first ever collegiate start.

BC had one of the best defenses in the country last year finishing 9th in scoring defense, and 8th against the run (2.6 ypc). They return 6 players on defense from last years unit that only allowed 15.9 points per game. They do lose #1DC Mathias Kiwanuka who had 9.5 of BC’s 35 sacks last year. I'm sure BC stacks the line in this game and spies Sneed wherever he goes due to his recieving skills trying to make Brunner beat them. The strength of this BC defense will be in the secondary as all return but one. This matchup heavily favors BC’s defense.

Boston College Offense vs Central Michigan Defense:

BC finished 65th in the country in scoring offense with 25.8 ppg. They return 6 players on offense. At QB Matt Ryan came on strong last year going 5-0 as a starter and should only get better. The key to this game and where I smell blowout city is up front. BC returns 3 starters that have started every game the last two years and the entire OL are all above 300 pounds. All three players are pre-season All-ACC players. BC has always had great blockers up front and I can see huge holes opened up for the 1-2 punch of RB L.V Whitworth (807 rushing yards) and Andre Callender (708 rushing yards).

CM finished 45th in scoring defense giving up 23.6 ppg but had one of the worst pass defenses finishing 110th in the country. They return 7 players on defense including MAC Defensive POY DE Daniel Bazuin who broke a MAC record with 16 sacks last year. BC has to go after their secondary with play-action after they pound Whitworth and Callender. CM lost 5 players in its secondary that had combined for 34 starts. The only player with any starting experience that returns is Pacino Horne. Horne was the starting FS last year and has now been converted to corner. The nickel corner is 5 foot 6! With no depth behind them CM is going to have to rely on a lot of true frosh to fill out its depth chart in the secondary which may be the reason they signed an astounishing 12 DBs in this years recruiting class. Yikes. They might actually have a worse secondary then the one that gave up close to 300 yards per game.

Special Teams:

CM and BC return both kickers on special teams. CM’s K Rick Albreski hit only 10-19 FGs last year with a long of 39 yards. He missed all 4 attempts outside of 40+ yards. Expect the return game to be huge here for BC since the NCAA is moving to a one inch tee now instead of a two. Albreski had only 14% of his kickoffs as touchbacks. BC loses super returnman Will Blackmon so the return duties this year will probably go to Dejuan Tribble who has been solid returning punts the last two years. Callender may be an option on returns as well. BC K Ryan Ohliger has hit 22 of 33 FGs (4 of 7 from 40+) in two years with a long of 47 yards.

My Play:


Using my account and my girlfriend I was able to double up on the $100 limit set by With so many questions in the CM secondary that was horrible last year and may actually be worse this year I don’t see how Matt Ryan won’t have a huge game. The big boys up front will open the holes for the 1-2 punch and I like BC big here on the road.
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Thursday, 7:30 P.M (ET) on ESPN U or Classic

Tidbits on Miami, Oh:

Miami finished last year with a 7-4 mark its 13th straight winning season under 2 year head coach Shane Montgomery. The Redhawks are 10-5 ATS in home openers the past 15 seasons. MU is 3-9 SU vs the Big 10 since 95. Since field turf has been installed in their stadium they are 13-2 SU. MU is 0-4 ATS as a home dog the last two years. Miami won the last meeting 44-14 in 2003.

Tidbits on Northwestern:

Of course the biggest news of the off-season was the tragic loss of 7 year head coach Randy Walker. Walker graduated from MU and was their coach from 90-98. Last year NU finished 7-5 and lost in shootout in the Sun Bowl vs UCLA. NU is 4-1 as an away fave the last four years. NU is 9-4 ATS in OOC away games the past 9 seasons.

Miami, Oh Offense vs Northwestern Defense:

MU finished 19th in scoring offense avg 33.7 ppg. They return 5 starters on offense but had heavy losses. MU has to replace its biggest loss on offense and that is the school’s all-time passing leader in Josh Betts. Replacing Betts will be Jr. Mike Kokal who only has 139 career passing yards in two years backing up Betts. They will probably rely on the ground attack more this year with last year’s 2nd team All-MAC RB Brandon Murphy returns with his 1,070 rushing yards in only 9 starts. Kokal does have preseason All-Mac first team WR Ryne Robinson (75 catches for 1,119 yards and 8 TDs last year) to catch his passes but they lose his partner on the other side in the schools all-time leading WR Martin Nance. Gone with Nance are his 81 catches and 1,107 yards and 14 TDs tied for third best in the nation last year. The OL also takes some heavy losses as they lose 3 All_MAC players. All 3 players on the line were 3-4 year starters. With a new QB and a less experienced OL Murphy may not get the same yards he did last year. Also Robinson will see double teams all day long with Nance gone. This offense will not match last years production this early on the season.

NU finished 104th in scoring defense giving up 32.5 ppg. The defense returns 8 starters and at least everyone on the defense has started at least 4 games in their career but one. The defense was bad last year due to the DL. Undersized and overwhelmed by the Big 10 monster OL around the league. They should match up with MU a little better. 4 freshman were in the DL rotation last year so hopefully a year in the weight room and on the playing field will get more improved play. The secondary should be the teams strength with the return of Bryan Heinz from his ACL injury. 6 players in the three deep have starting experience.

Northwestern Offense vs Miami, Oh Defense:

NU finished 32nd in scoring offense with 32.8 ppg. They were also 8th in total yards with close to 500 ypg.
They must overcome the huge loss of 4 year starter QB Brett Basanez. Who ever wins the QB position at northwestern and it looks like it will be C.J Bacher will still be surronded by plenty of talent on offense. Stud Tyrell Sutton returns at RB but also Terrell Jordan returns. He was suppose to be the starter last year but a hamstring injury forced him to miss the season. Reports coming out of the Wildcat camp was the Cats were going to use more two back sets with both players in the backfield since Sutton has great hands as well. The OL should be one of the best in the Big 10 as 4 starters return and they get 2 year starter Trevor Rees back after missing all of last year with academic issues. They allowed only 11 sacks so Bacher should have plenty of time to throw.

MU finished 43rd in scoring defense giving up 23.5 ppg. They return only 2 starters on defense. Northwestern is going to run all day long vs the Miami U DL. They have such a small OL with one DE a former LB weighing 233, a DT weighing 254, and another DE weighing 243. At LB which is an important position in their defensive scheme they lose its top 5 LB’s. They only have two upperclassmen in its two deep so MU may rely on some true frosh to step up. Not good.

Special Teams:

NU only returns K Joel Howells who is 15 of 27 in 3 years. Marquice Cole could be a factor as a PR. He returned 8 punts last year for a 27.0 avg. MU has one of the best PR in the country in Robinson (6 career TDs) and the P Jacob Richardson is solid. The kicking game could be a concern as they must rely on a true frosh to handle those duties.

My Play:



I had this game pegged at this number and was going to pound it regardless. May add more units if the other books open up with this line.

Regardless of a new QB I like NU on the OL and think they will run all day long vs a depleted, undersized and inexperienced MU defense. MU loses 16 senior starters and 8 All-MAC performers. No way they will gel for the first game of the season.
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Horn, I've gotta admit, you've got some of the best write-ups in the real opinion on the B.C. game, but I do always live by the creedo of not ever betting against B.C...have a slight lean to Miami OH in the second game though...two teams of equal talent level, slight edge in coaching now goes to Miami OH, plus the home field...NW does return a lot of guys, but they'll miss Basanez and Walker for sure...GL buddy...
Damn, Horn

That's f-cking solid...incredible writeups, bro.
I've barely touched preparing for the CFB season...but i'll be back in here soon to discuss things further.
pags, thanks bro. Good to see you over here as well. Are you not worried about the Miami defense though? I actually think the team will play an emotional game trying to win one for coach walker since their will be so much pub about in days leading up to this game.

yanks, thanks again. Hopefully betonsports gets out of trouble or these bets won't even matter.

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That sucks, man! I don't play future bets because you never know whenever team injuries and suspensions will bite you in the butt. But, who would have suspected a sportsbook would shut down due to legal matters??

That's tough, man. My guess is you may never get it back. That's another good reason to use a local IMO.

you bring up an important point regarding Miami's defense, or lack there of...but I don't think NW's will be much better and that Robinson guy along with another playmaker they have at WR should offset Sutton for NW...should be a good game...GL buddy...

BetOnSports PLC Removes CEO After Arrest

Jul 25, 6:55 AM (ET)

LONDON (AP) - Online gambling company BetOnSports PLC said Tuesday it had fired its chief executive following his arrest in the United States on racketeering charges.

The sports-betting Web site operator said it was terminating the contract of David Carruthers and removing him as a director as a consequence of his detention.

"Clearly, while he remains in the custody of the U.S. government, he is unable to perform his duties," the company said in a statement.
Carruthers, 48, was arrested July 16 at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport in Texas while trying to make a connecting flight from the United Kingdom to Costa Rica, where BetOnSports is based.

The company suspended trading of its shares two days later.
Carruthers and 10 others, including the founder of BetOnSports, were named in a 22-count indictment unsealed this week by federal prosecutors in St. Louis. The government says BetOnSports fraudulently took bets from U.S. residents by phone and the Internet, and failed to pay excise taxes.

I hope this doesnt happen to BETWWTS. Thats where my money has been wagered for 13 years. Right now its at a minimum. I am a little concerned as to whether I will deposit anything more for a while and my weekly winnings will be withdrawn immediately every monday, regardless of the fees.

This puts a serious risk on bankroll growth. If you only leave a dime to play with in your account, you are waiting for games that are pending, to bet on another game. That sucks.

Local Books are going to see a huge growth from new "CLIENTS".
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Horn, I actually think that what you posted may be a positive for your money already invested. Basically, it sounds like the current administration for BetOnSports is trying to separate themselves from Carruthers. RJ would know more than me, but this should allow them to function with the sportsbook's money. If there are any financial penalties against Carruthers, it would have to come out of his own pocket.

PlayWithMe said:
Horn, I actually think that what you posted may be a positive for your money already invested. Basically, it sounds like the current administration for BetOnSports is trying to separate themselves from Carruthers. RJ would know more than me, but this should allow them to function with the sportsbook's money. If there are any financial penalties against Carruthers, it would have to come out of his own pocket.


I agree with this...looks like they're trying to seperate themselves from the charges to get "back in business"...I'm sure they know the urgency of getting back up by week one of college football...

I'm wishing the best on this one bro..

I've looked these two plays over and I have to agree with you, I can't seem to find any holes in your reasoning. Obviously the way the NW team will react to their coach dying is an unknown factor, but I think initially it will serve to be a motivating factor.


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Horn--It's not going to happen. There's a restraining order in place and the judge is not going to lift it until after the start of the season.

Sorry, but I think you're going to have to lay some new bets down.
Sorry. There is actually an injunction, not a restraining order. Same idea--they're barred from taking, paying, depositing, or disbursing funds.
Thursday, 7:30 P.M (ET) on ESPN360

Tidbits on Kent St.:

The Golden Flashes went 1-10 last year and 3-7 ATS. They are 0-5 the last five years vs the Big 10 losing by an avg of 34.9 points. Kent St. average attendance last year was 6,600. Kent St. has only had one winning season since 1987 (Glen Mason was the coach). KSU played 14 freshman last year second most in the country.

Tidbits on Minnesota:

The Gophers are 62% ATS as a fave in 9 years at Minnesota. The Gophers have covered 15 of their last 19 OOC games. The Gophers have been to bowl games in 6 of the last 7 years.

Kent St. Offense vs Minnesota Defense:

KSU ranked 100th in the nation in scoring offense with 16.4 ppg. They were the worst rushing team in the country avg only 45.9 ypg and a dismal 1.8 ypc. KSU returns 9 players on offense. One thing that KSU has to work on in its spread offense is time of possesion where they ranked last in the country. If the rushing attack doesn’t get going they could be in for another long year. The QB Michael Machen returns for his second year at QB. The 25 year old former baseball needs to cut down on his INT’s as he threw 18 last year with only 11 TDs. The rushing attack should improve with rsFR Eugene Jarvis returning from academic issues. He would have been the starter last year as a true frosh. They also add RB Tony Howard the Michigan St. transfer to help bolster the run game. Sure this offense will be improved but how big of a jump will it be?

UM ranked 77th in the country in scoring defense giving up 28.5 ppg. UM returns 6 starters from last years unit. The biggest losses were on the DL. UM loses three starters from a defense that got no pass rush last year. This year the DL will avg 253 lbs (down from 275 last year). This will be an issue in Big 10 play but I don’t think it’ll be much of a factor up against a woeful KSU OL. The back 7 does return 5 and that will be key when facing the KSU spread attack. I don’t expect UM to win any defensive battles this year but hopefully keep the opponents off the scoreboard somewhat so its high ocatne offense puts up the points in bunches.

Minnesota Offense vs Kent St. Defense:

This is where the big mismatch will be. UM was ranked 10th in scoring offense with 36.2 ppg. The Denver Broncos of cfb where they just seem to plug in any RB and they produce big time yardage running behind that OL and schemes. UM finished 2nd in the country in rushing yardage. UM is also the only school in the country to post 2000 yards passing and rushing for seven straight years. They return 6 players on offense. Now will UM change its ways and air it out more now that they have a 3 year SR starting QB plus both top wideouts, and top TE returning? With Russell gone Pinnix takes over at RB. He had only one start last year and had 206 yards vs MSU. RB Brylee Callender comes in from the JUCO ranks and was the top RB in Minnesota in 2003 where he rushed for 2000+ yards and 40 TDs leading his team to the HS state championship.

KSU ranked 89th in scoring defense giving up 30.1 ppg. They were 108th vs the run last year and UM looks like its going to have field day in this matchup. They do return 9 from last years defense. The problem when facing UM here is that all three LBs are sophmores that were thrown to the wolves last year as freshmen. They will be relied upon to stop the UM rushing attack when Piinix or Callender get pass phase one of the defense.

Special Teams:

KSU loses both K and P. The punter will be a true frosh whie the kicker has to replace a 4 year starter and KSU all time leading FG kicker. UM returns both K and P that were freshmen last year. K Gianinni needs to improve on missing 8 XP’s last year.

My Play:


When has Minnesota not blown out its opening opponents? Now there facing one of the worst teams in the nation and they are only favored by a little more then two TDs?

Give me the Gophers in a blowout?
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My Play:


When has Minnesota not blown out its opening opponents? Now there facing one of the worst teams in the nation and they are only favored by a little more then two TDs?

Give me the Gophers in a blowout?

2001. At Toledo. As a 5 point dog. They lost 7-38. That was also the last time they failed to beat their opening lined opponent by less than 24 pts.

Thanks for the tidbits. My main concern would be the RBs and control of the trenches but Minny always produces great OL and they are playing against a Big Ten-lite team.

Pinnix and Callendar will be down from Maroney and Russell but should do great against Kent.

I thought this line would be more like -20...I'd have to say the value at this point lies with Minny, considering their early non-conference ATS record...
History states they should get this done. Wish Russell was still around but I do like this a bit as well. Caputo got a bit better each and every game last year. He could be a sleeper QB if he keeps from those few dumb plays a game. OL's at Minny are always strong. That should help the young runners get off to good starts against the pourous Falsh defense.
Still buzzed up

I agree with Pinnix and Callender..we got to see the array of talent(4 deep) of Minny last year in the early season blowouts...
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Tidbits on Iowa St.

ISU is 9-3 SU and 7-3 ATS at home the last two years. ISU is 19-2 SU vs the MAC. ISU is trying for the third consecutive year to be in + double digit in turnover margin. ISU avg 47,000 fans at home.

Tidbits on Toledo:

Toledo who plays its home games on turf has only covered 5 of 20 games on grass. UT finished 9-3 last year but had the 6th easiest schedule in the country. Toledo scored 3 times as much as its opponents in the 1st Q (119-45).

Iowa St. Offense vs Toledo Defense:

ISU ranked 48th in scoring offense last year avg 28.6 ppg. ISU returns 10 on offense only losing the RG. The offense will be much improved this year. Led by probably the best QB in the Big 12 this season Brett Meyer. He ranked 29th in the county last year in passing eff. He made huge strides from his frosh to soph year that I expect the same this season. He gets to throw to a nice set of WRs in Austin Flynn (56 catches) and All-Big Todd Blythe (51 rec, 1000 yds, 9 TDs) who is one of the top 10 WRs in the country.

The passing attack will be fine it’s the other improvements in the offense that has most ISU fans giddy about the offense. ISU avg 2.7 ypc, and finished 96th in the nation in rushing. Injuries at RB killed them last year. Stevie Hicks was a 1,000 yard rusher and honorable mention All- Big 12 the year before but a groin injury last year hurt him and he had only half the yards he got the year before. Superstar recruit Jason Scales also hurt his knee and was lost for the season. It got some bad for ISU they started a walk-on vs OSU. With an OL that avgs 310 pounds and are all SRs the rushing attack should improve tremendously with a healthy Hicks.

UT ranked 34th in scoring defense giving up 22.6 ppg. Toledo returns 7 starters from last year’s defense that played in the 3-4 for the first time. The DL will be the strength as the entire two deep returns. The issue in the 3-4 is the fact they lose both inside LBs who were the #1 and #3 tacklers on the team. Like most MAC teams the defense is undersized so if the big ISU OL gets the push up front it will be key for the new inside LBs to stop Hicks. The biggest weakness of UT will be in-between the tackles. I love ISU here because Hicks is bruiser that just loves to pound it up the middle.

Toledo Offense vs Iowa St. Defense:

Toledo ranked 14th in scoring offense last year avg 35.8 ppg last season. They return 8 starters offense. While they return a lot on offense they do lose the all time career UT passing leader in Gradowski. He was the co-MVP of the MAC last year and a three-year starter. He will be replaced by So. Clint Cochran who has only thrown 40 passes in college. Cochran will be replacing a QB who only had 10,243 yards or total offense with 85 touchdown passes and only 27 interceptions. He does have his 4 top receivers back which is the strength of the offense.

The Rockets lost their top two runners in 1,294-yard back Trinity Dawson and 7.2-yard-per-carry back Quinton Broussard. Scooter Mcdougle led the team in rushing in 2004 but was out all of last year with an injury. The season will probably start off as a TB by committee approach because both Mcdougle and Parmele weren’t healthy last year.

ISU ranked 17th in the nation in scoring defense only giving up 18.2 ppg. That was their best total in 25 years. The defense only returns 4 from last year. ISU dismissed two of its best three playmakers this past off-season in Berryman and Robertson. The defense of ISU is a blitzing attacking defense that loves to force turnovers as ISU has been in the top 20 the last two years in this area. They were tied for third in the country last year in INT’s and secondary coach Chris Ash is one of the best in the business. Watch out for former MSU LB Tyrone Mckenzie. He was unstoppable last year in practice and the ISU coaches can’t wait to let him lose this year.

With a good pass rush from the DL with DT Curvey (All-big 12 2nd team) in the middle and Shawn Morrehead and former LB Kurtis Taylor who had a great spring on the ends ISU should still be able to play its kind of defense. ISU’s defense last year had trouble with the deep ball but was very successful with team that came in with a short passing attack which will play right into their hands vs Toledo.

Special Teams:

ISU returns its K Culbertson who has 20-26 in 2 years but will have a RS frosh at P. KR Deandre Jackson was second in the Big 12 in KR avg.

Toledo has 4 punts blocked last year and 3 were returned for TDs. They lose the MAC special teams player of the year in Jason Robbins. Robbins didn’t miss a FG last year and has hit 22 of 23 in 2 years. His replacement Krispinsky, who has yet to attempt a collegiate field goal or PAT, got his average kick only to the 15 and had no touchbacks, making his leg strength suspect. With the tee being lowered in inch this could be key here on kick-offs because Jordan is dangerous.

My Play:

IOWA ST. –7 ($300) (BETCRIS)

Not sure why there has been so much love for the MAC in these opening round games vs the big boys but this line is way to low for me not to jump on. ISU is a very, very good home team that will score a lot vs Toledo. Cochran in his first game as a starter will eventually be a good one for UT but not this early on. Hicks could have a field day vs the middle of this defense and I fully expect ISU to win this one by at least 2-3 TDS.

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Other than the Iowa game last season, ISU just didn't have BIG point spread margins of victory in non-conference play (including the freaking Army game that I lost money on!

I really think that is the reason this line is so shallow, not because of the respect given to the MAC. Horn, we know that if ISU hooks up and plays up to their potential, they should cover this EASILY! However, my apprehension in this game, or any bet laid on ISU, is ISU's inconsistency. After all, this is a team that should have won the North Division Title the last two years but blew it at the end of the game.

I'll have to think some more on this one . . . . . .
Hey guys! This is dmac1824 from

Ross was kind enough to let me know about this site. Thanks man!

Look forward to chatting with you guys!

Just want to say hello to rj, pags, Horn, BDK, MacWestie, and any of the other NCAAF nutcases from covers.
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Hey guys! This is dmac1824 from

Ross was kind enough to let me know about this site. Thanks man!

Look forward to chatting with you guys!

Just want to say hello to rj, pags, Horn, BDK, MacWestie, and any of the other NCAAF nutcases from covers.

Good to see you here and not at the playground.
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Horn--All your plays Week 1 are minimum plays so far, right?

So far this is just Thursday games it looks like, but yea I gather that they are all minimum plays, but coming from Horn they are nice plays and defianetly better then my 5 stars, except for N. Ill week 1 which is hopefully money.
playwithme, I agree with you on ISU I just think the offense will be so much more imporved with a solid rushing attack. Toledo offense is going to take a couple of games to get going and Ames is no easy place to go into.

rj, Yes these games are maxed out. betmill has a limit of $100. So I had myself and girlfriend open an account there so I could at least get $200. I gave here the money for it but used her address and credit card lol.

dmac! Good to see you over here man! I'm glad rj got hold of you and told you about the site. We've got some great cappers over here and won't hesitate to get rid of the 12 year olds that post useless nonsense.

rollingaces, N.Illini was almost a play for me as well. Tressel just gets so damn conservative that no large spread is safe.
Thursday, 10:30 ET on CSTV

Tidbits on SDSU:

In their last 13 home openers SDSU is 13-6 SU but 6-14 in OOC games. Chuck Long the former OU OC begins his first season. Long’s staff has as a group coached in 75 bowl games, won 15 conference championships and 6 national titles. SDSU is the only MWC team to have not been to a bowl game since its inception. SDSU averaged 36,000 fans at home last year.

Tidbits on UTEP:

UTEP has lost the last 7 meetings vs SDSU. UTEP has only won 2 road openers out of 17. UTEP is 6-22 ATS on the road the first month of the season. UTEP was 8-4 last year but played the 3rd easiest schedule in the country last year. 29 SRs are returning for this year.

UTEP Defense vs SDSU Offense:

UTEP finished 53rd in the country in scoring defense giving up 24.2 ppg last year. 9 starters return on defense you could easily say 10 as CB Ferguson started 7 games. Even with the loss of 2nd round draft pick Thomas Howard this defense should be better with all the experience returning. The question is which defense will show up? The defense from the first half or the defense that finished the year off giving up an avg of 36 ppg to its last 4 Div 1 opponents. Injuries had a lot to do with that and I expect a Mike Price coached defense to show much improvement.

SDSU finished 57th in scoring offense last year averaging 26.9 ppg their best mark in 10 years. 5 starters return from last year’s offense. Its Chuck Long’s first year with the offense and he has some work to do. SDSU has an experienced QB in Kevin O’Connell who has started 17 games the last 2 years but it’s the guys catching the ball where the issue may arise. They lost their top 2 WRs from last year, and both TEs are out for the year with injuries. Long has already stated the Aztecs will be running the ball A LOT this season. RB is the deepest position on the team where the Aztecs go pretty much 4 deep. Leading the way and probably shouldering much of the offensive load will be Lydell Hamilton. Hamilton rushed for 1,000 yards in 8 starts his true frosh year in 2003, missed 04 due to injury, and led the team in 05 with 819 yards even though he wasn‘t 100%.

Long has been one of the best OC around for quite a number of years so there will be much improvement for SDSU in this area regardless of the inexperience.

UTEP Offense vs SDSU Defense:

UTEP finished 31st in scoring offense last year with 31.8 ppg. 7 starters return on offense. Bombs away for UTEP once again with Jordan Palmer leading the way helping them finish in the top 10 in passing yardage last year. Problem with Palmer is the guy has thrown 50 INTs so far. He was horrible to finish the year as he threw 8 INTs in his last 3 games. He has 15 multi-interception games and has thrown a pick in 24 of the 34 games he has played. For a team that relies so much on the pass it will take some time for the WR corp to get on the same page of Palmer. While the top wideout Huggins returns they lose the next 3 of the next 4 WRs on the depth chart. Because of this UTEP did work more on its two TE sets during the spring hoping to ignite the run game just a little more.

SDSU finished 72nd in scoring defense giving up 27.1 ppg its worst mark in 4 years. 8 starters return on defense. The key to this matchup is stopping the UTEP passing attack. SDSU returns 3 guys in the secondary that have played together for 3 years now. The fourth guy though not a starter is a SR and has seen the field quite a bit. SDSU had the best secondary in the conference last year and it will be the same this year.

Special Teams:

SDSU returns both of its kickers. P Hughes was 2nd team all MWC and enters his third season as the starter. K Palmer also enters his third season as the starter and hit 15 of 17 last year including 4-5 +40.

UTEP also returns both kickers. P Hotchkiss had a solid 36.1 net while K Reagan Schneider is one of the better kickers in the country. He has 17-23 FGs +40 yards.

My Play:


Betmill gave us way too many points for the home team (+7) but I don't like the # where it is right now. A Thursday opening game with a high profile coach coming in should make the fans come out in waves for a program that just hasn’t been able to take the next step. I had this line capped at PK and betcris obviously agree with me releasing this line at SDSU –1.

The key matchup I like is the inexperience at WR for UTEP, which relies so much on the pass going up against the SDSU secondary, which is the strength of the defense.

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I sure think it's going to be a fun one to watch if nothing else.
Great info Horn! I'm with Stacks on this one...wish I had found this one at +7. Still, I'd take State at +3 or better.

Again...great write ups!
First scrimmage less than stellar

By Michael Vega, Globe Staff | August 10, 2006
Boston College's football team conducted its first scrimmage of preseason camp last night at Alumni Stadium and the Eagles staged a spirited, albeit short, exercise that left BC coach Tom O'Brien less than impressed with the results.
Asked if there was anything in the 60-play scrimmage that he liked, O'Brien was blunt: ``Nothing really."
One reason may have been that BC was missing 21 players, including eight defensive linemen and nine freshmen who were wrapping up summer school exams.
``That's the biggest problem right now," O'Brien said. ``We have too many guys injured."
O'Brien reported the Eagles were missing ``about half of our scholarship defensive linemen," which meant more work for the remaining players.
With sophomore defensive end Jim Ramella (shoulder) and junior defensive tackle Justin Bell (Achillies') out for the season, BC's defensive line also was missing junior B.J. Raji (ankle), sophomore Justin Tougas (stomach ailment), and sophomore Keith Willis and redshirt freshman Brady Smith, both of whom practiced yesterday morning but were held out of the evening scrimmage because of the NCAA's limitations on returning injured players during camp.
``You've got to give 'em five days before they can go two-a-days and be in pads," O'Brien said.
And while the Eagles did catch a break with the nice weather, it was of little use to the team, because, as O'Brien noted, ``You don't have a lot of guys out there practicing."
``After 10 of these [opening scrimmages], I think we've had better and we've certainly have had worse," said O'Brien, entering his 10th season at The Heights. ``It's a starting point and we have a long way to go and we understand that."

Shared experience
Junior running backs L.V. Whitworth (6 carries, 19 yards) and Andre Callender (7 carries, 28 yards)split time with the first team, enabling sophomore running back A.J. Brooks to make the most of his plays with the second team. Brooks led all rushers with 14 carries for 49 yards and a pair of touchdowns, including a 20-yarder in which he made a couple of nifty cutback moves. Brooks, however, had a fumble, which freshman defensive back Chris Fox recovered. ``He didn't scrimmage at all in the spring and he didn't make many practices [because of a leg injury], so it's the first time in a long time -- probably since last summer, that he's had extensive work," O'Brien said of Brooks. As for Brooks's scoring run? ``He's got a little knack for making cuts, so he's just got to get back into the swing of things," O'Brien said. ``But the 1,000 attaboys are wiped away with one fumble." . . . Redshirt freshman linebacker Mike McLaughlin picked off a Chris Crane pass intended for tight end Trey Koziol. Redshirt freshman corner Razzie Smith was credited with the scrimmage's only sack . . . Junior kicker Ryan Ohliger converted 3 of 5 field goal attempts, connecting from 27, 43, and 32 yards. Ohliger was wide left on a 37-yard attempt and had a 41-yard try blocked by junior linebacker Jolonn Dunbar . . . Junior quarterback Matt Ryan connected on 7 of 17 attempts for 79 yards and a 20-yard TD strike to senior Tony Gonzalez, who made a diving grab to beat DeJuan Tribble . . . David Currid, a sophomore walk-on wideout from Chichester, N.H., hauled in a 10-yard pass that set up a 1-yard plunge by Brooks. The pass was thrown by freshman Billy Flutie, the nephew of Doug and Darren Flutie.
Got these emails from betmill so it looks like all plays are cancelled and money refunded back to us so I've edited my plays and took out the betmill plays.


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What about pending bets on the first week of NCAA that were placed

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South Carolina at Mississippi St.
Thursday 8 PM ET on ESPN HD

Tidbits on S. Carolina:

SC has won 7 of their last 9 season openers. SC finished last in Div 1 with only 605 offensive snaps. Last year in Spurrier’s first year in transferring the offense from a rushing attack to his air assault had only 8 returning starters the least in the SEC. Last year was the first time SC won 5 straight SEC games.

Tidbits on Miss. St:

MSU has lost their last 6 SEC openers SU & ATS. In Crooms first 2 years at least 20 players have been kicked off the team or quit. Under Croom MSU is 3-12 vs the SEC SU. Avg. attendance at MSU games last year was 48,000.

SC Offense vs Miss. St. Defense:

SC avg 23.7 ppg finishing 75th in the country in year one of the Fun N Gun. They return 7 starters from that offense.
Even though the youngsters behind him are having great spring and fall practices Blake Mitchell is the starter because he has a better grasp of the offense. He’s also bulked up about 15 pounds from last year. With all of his WRs returning including one of the best in the country Sidney Rice it should help form mismatches all over the filed as teams double Rice or account for his deep play ability. The rushing attack will be even better with a one two punch of Davis and Boyd who missed last year and would’ve been the starter due to academic reasons. The big question mark will be the oline since only two starters return. If they can give Mitchell enough time this offense will be drastically improved from last years.

MSU gave up 23.5 ppg finishing 40th in the country. They return 9 starters on defense. The defense will keep MSU in games this year but they do lose Willie Evans 15 sacks. The secondary held its own last year but did get picked apart by teams that used a short/intermediate passing attack which they will see in SC. MSU let teams complete 61% of their passes. While many will look at the secondary and see they have solid 4 back there that’s not where the mismatch will be as outside of the two corners MSU has no depth and that will be the key as Spurrier will run 3-4 WRs all with skill and experience at them. I really like this match-up for SC.

SC Defense vs Miss St. Offense:

MSU avg 13.9 ppg ranked 113th in the nation. The offense was horrible last year. Michael Henig took over the starting job late last year from an ineffective Omarr Conner (now at WR) and had worse numbers. 60-135, 44.4%, 621 yds, 2 TD, 5 INT isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire. The only true weapon on offense last year was Jerrious Norwood who accounted for one third of MSU all purpose yards and he is gone now as a third round pick to the Falcons. This offense will be improved from last year but I just don’t see them lighting the scoreboard up especially with the loss of Norwood.

SC gave up 23.2 ppg finishing 40th in the country. Only 4 starters return and SC did lose a ton of talent. The defense is what made we a little weary to play SC here early on as the DL does lack size. The strength of the defense is definitely its speed and Tyrone Nix has now full control of the defense and he loves to be aggressive and attack. Next year first day pick Fred Bennett will lock down what other side of the field he is on. This defense will struggle early going this year but will hold its own vs probably the worst offense in the SEC.

My Play:

SC –5.5 ($400) (BETCRIS)

Went back and forth with this game when it opened at 7 but someone dropped a load on MSU at betcris dropping the game all the way down to –5.5 while at pinny it sits at 7 still. Even though it’ll be a tough road test for SC I like the passing match-up vs the Bulldog defense and just don’t think MSU will have enough on offense with the loss of Norwood early on.


Good to see that you will at least get your funds back from them. Its too bad they couldn't just play out opending deals because of those sweetheart lines you got.